soaring plane bad landing

[OriginalAtomicSheep]

didnt look that bad

[VG39]

Posé, pas cassé  ;-) !

[sablatnic]

Nothing broken, it seems. Was it a szd Cobra?

[Ternecz]

@sablatnic Yes, it was.

[sablatnic]

@Ternecz : Thanks. I have never flown one, but I have been flying in thermals with one on several occasions.

[Ternecz]

@sablatnic

Yes, it was a Cobra, an fortunately it didn't damage ;)

[gezginozan1982]

I think it's very good outlanding.

[c00lwind]

well yes, looking at it for a second time, I dont understand two things: 1. why is pointed down on the first obstacle to pull up that way. Loss of energy. Then when he dolphins in short final, looks strange. Maybe he was just avoiding bad terrain we shall never know. It could be that he was looking at the terrain underneath searching for the worst bad place to touch down. If this is the case, it was a very good landing as it may have crashed otherwise. We shall never know!

[c00lwind]

Looks like a good outlanding, with a strong break to avoid running on bad terrain. Tail goes up,it's normal. No damages I suppose, so good for the pilot. This is normal procedure for each glider pilot.

[Scandinavian10]

but dude admit this is a worse landing if you think about other glider landings

[xoio]

Actually considering he'd miss judged getting back to the airfield & had no choice but to land where ever the glider was going to come down.. The pilot did pretty well... But he did badly in energy management & staying close enough to the airfield to make it back there.

[stesta5074]

Actually its defined as less than the wingspan.

[bass2fly]

Given the situation it was done by the book. The touchdown is not that bad as it may look, but it's impossible to keep the tail down and the wing leveled after touching the ground. It happened to me once having wheel brakes blocked and the tail up up up and I droped the right wing. REMEMBER: low altitude like this + obstacles you MUST ALWAYS have some 20% more speed than the normal speed and this video shows it. It's safer. I don't think that csernyi will remain again without enough altitude

[dsouth01]

Any flight you can walk away from is a good one.

[Supernova897]

Gear-in landings aren't that bad.

But remember:

There are two kinds of Pilots, Those who have landed with gear in and those who will do it in the future.

[PatrickSebastian]

He was just 200m short of the runway on final glide. Landed wheel up, no big deal. Plane was fine, just few scratches.

[Smartathanyou]

looks like the field he's over @ :12 would have been the better choice than trying to stretch to a marginal outcome.

Ground effect or not.

Bad move but hopes the pilot learned something.

[michool]

To me it looks like he's actually severely undershooting his airfield and doing the textbook thing of diving down and then hopping over obstacles - some trees, a fence and some bushes as far as I can tell.

He ended up landing heavy but considering how bad an undershoot it looks like I think he did well to keep his head on and get it down in one piece at all.

[michool]

You're a very opinionated fellow aren't you! Are you even a glider pilot?

If you're down to 300 ft you should already be looking at your landing field. And at 300 ft & 60 kts you should be starting your final approach - good for you! Once on final you probably don't have any choices of fields, so if you're not going to make your field your ONLY option is to extend your glide - either by slowing down or getting down into ground effect (which extends above 5 ft as you boldly asserted elsewhere)

[ChrisH308]

No wonder that happened....you look at his wings...He didnt use one lil bit of airbrake. Landing is never gonna be easy if you dont use airbrake and just balloon everytime you get near the grounf

[hrford]

ChrisH803: He was landing short, using airbrake would make it shorter and therefore worse.

[SpeedbirdDK]

its a final glide

[Cbeaky73]

Air brakes are used to steepen the glide of the airplane, not make landings easier. He was trying to stay aloft as long as possible using ground effect to avoid the obstacles in his way. Air Brakes or more correctly spoilers would have been the last thing you would want to use in a situation like this.

[Rolandhinio]

what a waste of a glider lol

[dynamicz108]

Hehehe good times, gets ya pumped on adrenaline

[mjok2004]

either the pilot has a 2 inch control stick, is very heavy handed or worse the glider is tail heavy

[zythepsarian]

any landing you can walk away from is a good landing

[keegan773]

This was not a bad landing, it was a good landing but in the wrong place!!!!

[costoboy]

that not a bad landing he havn't broken anything and that is the matter

[amediastintas]

wow he beat the crap out of that glider. is this a normal of field landing. anyone know?

[soukupb]

thats about how my landings are going to look when i get my glider lol.

[mathilde83]

wie war das nochmal mittem bodeneffekt?? wer früher drückt fliegt länger schnell :D :D :D

[GodOfBikeStunt]

he was little too short :D

[mischapanek]

scheiss endanflugrechner ;-))))

[Gliderpilot92]

The landing was alright apart from the fact he missed the airfield! :)

[csernyi]

I didn't miss, "just" didn't reach :-)

[badvidsfromgermany]

That wasn't so bad.

[roenic1]

he chose a bad place to put it down.

[mathilde83]

yes he landing was okay but the short final was bad..

[theflyer1985]

the landing was ok!!!!!good job

[ysblueangels]

he did a good job of hugging the ground around the fences...

[MikhailSharpowicz]

Oops - and that's why we practice Competition finishes occasionally at the airfield, not at competitions!!

[keegan773]

O.K. which of you jokers moved the finishing line?

[joneggelton]

hey that looks like one of those toy aeroplanes

[max39666]

it's looks like a RC glider

[xlqex]

I've seen better approaches...but I've seen worse landings.

[tomprid3]

when the glider dived behind the trees, pulled up and milked that extra height that was just a spot of bad decision making by the pilot at that moment.

I would adivse other glider pilots to set themselves a minimum scratching / glide height above ground (800ft is good) before commiting to a specific field to landout in so you dont rush yourself and may do more damage to yourself and the aircraft.

[hoody2050]

what the hell was he/she doing?

[ponchoyo]

very nice landing actually.

[spiraldive1]

Hey - Any landing that you can walk away from is a good one...

[agrockettt]

Correct any landing that you can reuse the aircraft is a better one!!!

[jbcanada77]

WOW!!!

[bliglum]

Wow, so many close calls. So many G's pulled (for a sailplane). Nice to see that he/she finally got er' on the ground safely.

[csernyi]

For the young guys just an advice: maybe looks cool but in the competition doesn't matter if you land 150m or 2-3 km before the line, but go for the safest solution Not like I did :-)

If any question just ask.

i.i.

[Ternecz]

Hi!

Thanks for telling the story, it's very detailed and exciting :) By the story we can relive it as we are just inside, it's great! Sorry for the title, this is only "marketing", but I was there, and on some other competitions too. I know what it mean, the competitor have to risk more than a normal day. You did it safely, you and your "little bird" didn't hurt, that's the most important!

Good landing! T.

Köszi tényleg hogy Te is hozzászóltál! T.

[MrTumnus8896]

@Ternecz Wasn't it wheels up?

[csernyi]

Additionaly good to know my teemmate broke his glider a day prior during his land out. :-)

At least my team was happy because we just towed my gliger to the field.

We checked wit thech guys and they found all connection fine :-)

So I continoued.... but more carefully :-)

[csernyi]

So, then there was a road (with low traffic) and then only a few meters of weedy strip were coming. At the last moment GEAR DOWN and stall :-)

The canopy just popped up but grabet it with both hand. I rolled about 2m and stopped :-)

I jumped out and chacked if the tail was missing or not. My little bird were fine, I was shaking a bit, but we mannaged it :-) Unfortunatelly there were 150m more to the finish line :-(

[csernyi]

As I remember it was just 100-110km/h at the bottom and I also pulled up too high. On the bottom of the valley, facing to forest of locust-three not a confotrable feeling. On the top the (~30m AGL) the speed was ~75km/h (with the Cobra-15 close to stall spd. On then other side of the trees there was a garden with saplings and pailings... Not the ideal for landing. Even worst fanced with wire-fance and concrate poles :-( It was scary :-(

[csernyi]

Well,

Nice to see myself from an other point of view. :-)

You all are right, but....

The theory was right and the actual planing was also ok, but the only and biggest mistake what I made was I didn't start accelerating early enough, and my speed was relatively lo when I reached the lowest point in the valley :-)

[csernyi]

Szerencsére a többi napon viszonylag biztonsagosabb megoldásokat sikerült leszállás gyanánt végrehajtani, hol itt, hol ott... :-)

Ha valaki szeretne még részleteket csak nyugodtan kérdezzetek...

i.i.

[csernyi]

kb 2m-t haladtam még a tarlón aztán kipattantam és csodálkoztam, hogy minden rendben (legalabbis a géppel, az én lelkemet kicsit megviselte az eset.)

Tudni kell még, hogy előző napon csapattársam 90fokban meggörbitette a másik Cobra törzsét a kilépőél vonalában. Ez után az eset kicsit húzós volt.

[csernyi]

Üdv Mindenkinek!

Az eset 2000-ben történ a Pogányi versenyen.

Sajna 150m-re álltam meg a vonal elött, de akkor ez csak kicsit zavart, jobban izgatott hogy a géppel minden ok, legyen. Amint látszik is a "huszáros becsapódás" után lepattant a kabintető, amit szerencsére sikerült mindkét kézzel elkapni. A gép már gyakorlakilag úgy is vezethetetlen volt.

[yavuzd]

not bad landing,

bad planning, bad timing prapare to landing,

but good safe and good job.

[silentwingsus]

It's a good and safe landing. He/She cleared the obstacles with a higher speed. We learned that this is the safest way to clear obstacles in glider-theoretical lessons.

[Porsche010]

??? thats not a bad landing.

[guleiro]

it´s a good landing to me...

[rocknrollohio]

Look like a good landing to me

[Rickenbacker69]

Good landing, bad planning. He should have set up to land in a better field, much earlier. But at competitions this doesn't always happen, as we push ourselves and the planes as far as we can and sometimes end up in situations we haven't planned for. Nice save of a bad situation in any case, but hopefully the pilot learned something from it :).

[keegan773]

It was not a bad landing, it was just in the wrong place!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Si605]

any landing is a good landing if you can walk away from it

[ScottWATP]

im a glider pilot

[diggyj]

yea so am well im a glider student in Mcminnville Oregon! that was a O.k landing though!

[dci762striker]

It looks as the the pilot is having a hard time making back to the actual runway. A common trick glider pilots use is to fly in the ground effect that occurs within one wingspan of the ground. By doing this they buy themselves a little more (and hopefully enough) hangtime to get back to the runway. But what do I know, its not like i am a pilot or anything ;-)

[Glide101]

Yeah, but i read somewhere that that technique is actualy inefficient... i think they were talking about high wing gliders though, not sure, but what do I know, i'm an instructor in the air cadets and we only fly schweizer 2-33s,lol, all we do are circuits, or almost

[cessna175]

So he landed out, it happens...

[dickvanderweerd]

indeed!! it isn't such a bad landing in these conditions!! have you seen the barbwire fences??!?!? it was a dangerous sitiation!! barbwire around a field is very hard to see!

[Ternecz]

the barbwire wasn't at the gliders way, it was just at the background

[gogge]

Bad landing anyway, interesting video. Thank you for sharing!

[hernanahv]

when you know you are geting short you MUST try to land it the safest way, if he would have done that may be the glider wouldn't have taken that awful hit on the ground, that was not a good desition.

[Torkelhalv]

im glad this went well

[saito125]

Not a bad landing considering his choices... skillful energy management.

[CirrusC2]

you mean he should have landed in a paddock about 3 minutes before this accident happened?

[Ternecz]

no, it was about 1 minute :) he landed about 200 meters far from the paddock

[MegaspeedMilly]

What happened here??

[Ternecz]

It took place on a competition.

The final glide was too short and the pilot didn't find any sufficient ground for landing.

[Ternecz]

Hát kb annyira, még a pogányi út felett átjött vagy fél méteren, miután megkarcolta a kukoricást, szerencse hogy nem jött autó. Elég rizikós volt a vége, de az ari az volt, hogy akkor még nem volt kerítés, így kiment a csapat érte autóval, és áthúzták a célvonalon, persze attól még terepreszállásnak számított :)

[makos007]

Nagyon érdekes. Milyen messze szállt le végül a reptértől, vagy 200 m-re? :) Meg szinte leesett a végén 1m magasról, stresszes lehetett belülről.