Mark Frechette & Daria Halprin from ZABRISKIE POINT

[BigDogStoryTime]

such a disrespectful interview towards two young people

[Nazzz65]

''What do you want to know?'' is 60's talk for ''f**k you''.

[Perstorp]

Yeah, well...Mark Frechette robbed a bank in Boston in 1973 where one of the robbers (also a member of Hyman's commune/community/cult) died. Then he himself died in a weight lifting "accient" in jail in 1975. "Standing there with a gun, cleaning out a teller's cage - that's about as fuckin' honest as you can get, man!" (Mark Frechette, 1947-75).

[KopOut]

I watched this movie on tcm and Daria was so beautiful in it. shame she didn't do any after this.

[vaxxxo]

They seem so calm, serious and kind of depressed. Nowadays there is too much laugh and too much nonsense in such kind of shows.

[MsOrchidBouquet]

Well, at least he got more animated towards the end. And (gasp) she actually said something.

[TreadwellJay]

@spinavaholka There was no second part. After the break, they were gone.

[ksol1460tv]

@davidjtull Actually they weren't hippies. The group they belonged to was extremely conservative.

[ksol1460tv]

To make sense of what you're seeing you have to understand the pressure these kids were under. As other comments mention they were members of the Mel Lyman Family (look it up). What you said & how you said it, in public & private, were strictly monitored & controlled - you could get in serious trouble for saying the wrong thing, and anything you said might be considered "wrong" at any time. Severe physical & mental punishment were routine. Safest thing was to say as little as possible.

[johnnycheck99]

@ksol1460tv Mel Lyman sounds like a weird,fucked up psycho.

[ksol1460tv]

@johnnycheck99 He was, and his assistants were even worse. By searching on Mel Lyman's name you can find a website with hundreds of articles by and about him. The Rolling Stone piece is on that site in its entirety; while controversial, it is a real eye opener; frankly, I believe every word of it.

[BJORT]

Mark is a real jerk what's wrong with Mel Brooks?

[mooshaa82]

"I didn't say actors are cattle. What I said was, actors should be treated like cattle."

Hitchcock

[Trudeau7900]

It is interesting how the quietness of both Halprin and Frechette is like a mirror for the other guests and for Cavett.

[1974yety]

please... could someone put the second part of this interview? Thanks

[philcobeam]

I love it Mel Brooks smoking 40yrs ago and he is still alive and well now.

[frikandellino]

"I haven't seen the movie so I cannot be biased..." - that is just preposterous ! I rate you couldn't display more bias - and also more disrespect - than by not even slighty getting acquainted with the subject of your upcoming discussion as a tv-host, as shown here to a very pathetic extent. the film is brilliant although, admittedly, the average american suburb-supersize-mum may have difficulties understanding the plot entirely...

[DanielRoffle]

@frikandellino dude Cavett apologizes right off the bat and says that he'll be seeing it "in a week"; perhaps it's schedulling problems, and not the biased disrespect that you count on, that lead to him not seeing it previously? "Zabriskie Point"'s smug anti-consumerist clichés really aren't half as complex as you make them out, either (still a good movie, tho - pretty!)

[salvadory]

i see two out of sorts a little nervous young inexperienced actors- mark perhaps a little aloof but not playing the witty hollywood game- much better than the over super personality with preplanned one liners hacks we get today- plus they were probally on downers- the film by the way is actually pretty cool as is the soundtrack....

[diddeliduddi]

they certainly are a charming couple... pills anyone?

[JubalCalif]

@diddeliduddi

Cyanide pills I presume....though on second thought that is a little extreme. Let's settle for sleeping pills....

A good looking couple...but far from charismatic. And from what I read the movie was a flop. Mark later died in prison and she had a brief marriage to the late actor/director Dennis Harper. No one other than Mel Brooks looks comfortable! 

[VictrolaJazz]

@diddeliduddi They're as articulate as a couple of mudflaps!

[johnnycheck99]

Who is the compere of this show and is he pretty big in the USA ?

[FungusMossGnosis]

Yowser that's uncomfortable. I feel for the guests AND Cavett. Cavett has never looked so unprepared and acted so snotty.

Daria Halprin came off intimidated but well, I thought.

Michaelangelo Antonioni's 'Zabriskie Point' did indeed set out to do more than it accomplished, but it's still far better than average for movies of that period. Better than 'Midnight Cowboy'. Antonioni's failures are always more interesting than the "successes" of someone like Mike Nichols.

[ellisgarvin]

A better host would have brought them out of their shell by being warm, genuine and making them feel comfortable. This is the way to engage people and get them to start speaking, not by making sarcastic jabs at them for not participating in the "witty" (ie. phoney) talk show banter that everyone else was doing. Cavett learned and got better as he got older.

[MissKilman]

It's so annoying how they kept ignoring her and shutting her up, and then made fun of her when she complained about it.

[shantiq]

also the film zabriskie is a must for anyone who wants to tune in to that recent period of history to try and feel the vibe

also must see more by barbet schroeder and a film called the strawberry statement

and also la chinoise by jean-luc godard

and for a lighter less of the times the dreamers by bertolucci

i think halprin is really shy in the interview not haughty

mark frechette carried the bad boi vibe about himself

[shantiq]

and you can so feel the cleavage of the times the zeitgeist of 67-77 when there were people in society who REALLY could not understand each other lived in parallel universes which almost never met

frechette and halprin belonged to one side and cavett to the other

nowadays the dichotomy/split is not so marked altho still it exists

I kind of miss those times a bit like one might miss the cold war ::::))))))))))

[johnnycheck99]

Frechette- what a personality !! I have known tree stumps with more colour. What a dour guy. "Save your money" he says. Millions did.

[MetallicBill]

HAhaha, He needed to learn from the Floyd as well, who were not happy with Michaelangelo. Very interesting Time Capsule. And like some of the old SNL I just picked up, it's somewhat stumbling along! haha

[TEMPmichaelhansen]

Mark Frechette is dead.

[stankler]

geez dick.couldnt you have watched the freakin movie.

[truetodef]

Is there a part 2 to this interview? I'd think so since he said we'll be right back and told Daria she'd have more chance to talk but it seems that it hasn't been uploaded, if you have it then please do so as I'd like to watch it.

[SirAtkins]

Get a UK tv host on!

[shakercoola]

Well, Mark Frechette and Daria Halprin each made one more film and that was it. Frechette was arrested and imprisoned for armed robbery 3 years later. He died in a freak weightlifting accident in '75.

Clearly there are flaws in Zabriskie Point, but the film's scenes in Death Valley were beautiful.

[EdiblePlanets]

I think Mark made 2 more films.

[MetallicBill]

@shakercoola Interesting but with regard to the movie, it gets critically lambasted as does La Vallee and More from Barbet Schoeder because they are referred disparagingly as "Hippie Flicks", but there is a theme and message buried in the artistic approach, people just have trouble relating to it to figure it out for themselves

[VictrolaJazz]

A couple of little phony proletarians.

[oscar2001dalton]

Daria fit as fk.

[phoneix91]

Who is that faggot talking at 4:00. He is that guy sitting next to Mel Brooks.

[susannreno]

Rex Reed, if you'd stop with the slur.

[spinavaholka]

They aren't stupid and they represented themselves in the right way. They are simpy two individuals that refuse to be part of the capitalist order and they don't care about their public image.

They are beautiful and so real. I'd like to see the second part of this interview.

[maryquant1967]

@spinavaholka Frechette was deeply disturbed and died in prison.

[bluntedtaoism]

@spinavaholka are you jim kweskin or something lmao

[bluntedtaoism]

i mean do you people realize frechette and halprin were in a dangerous cult and that they acted like this because they were brainwashed? mark frechette robbed a bank for the lyman family and died in prison.

[Neosillogium]

I understand why Mark is pissed off. I mean, the least the host could have done is to watch the damn movie before having him as a guest.

[TIPTON340]

Died in weight room at Massachusetts Correctional Institution with a 150-pound weight bar pressed against his throat. Ruled an accident

[0362868]

Could there be a more arrogant, stupid, and dull prick in the world than Mark Frechette? I want to dig him up anf kill him again.. What a fucking boor.

[leamanc]

Thanks for posting this! I didn't know that *anybody* did any promotion for Zabriskie Point. I guess this not even promotion, as Mark tells Dick to save his money and not see it.

Call them airheads if you like, but at least he was honest in that the film didn't turn out like he hoped it would, and that Antonioni did two non-actors no favors by letting them fail onscreen and teaching them nothing.

All that said, I love Zabriskie Point, and nearly all the rest of Antonioni's films.

[ThomasDeLello]

A very awkward interview I think.

[belbird]

Its funny that Easy Rider is mentioned.. as Daria went on to marry Dennis Hopper!

[EdiblePlanets]

Easy Rider & Zabriskie Point are very similar.

[dans86]

Daria seems uncomfortable. Pink Floyd's role was minimal and Antonioni was never happy with what they played (according to Roger Waters interview). This movie is amazing and could have been more, I think things just didnt come through for this it.

[TEMPmichaelhansen]

i finally realised that this was on my Dick Cavett dvd's. I also have "ZABRISKIE POINT" on DVD. Pink Floyd rules, and the film was a box office bomb. Mark Frechette is dead.

[vikesh81]

Mel Brooks was the most interesting person on the whole show- which is not difficult. The other two are just bland, empty shells, why bother interviewing them ?

[TEMPmichaelhansen]

WHERE DID YOU GET THIS FROM? Is this on a Dick Cavett DVD somewhere? The film ZABRISKIE POINT was a box office bomb. I have a copy (from the library, there copy came up missing) PINK FLOYD RULES. after this, Mark Frechette made 2 more films, got involved in a bank robbery, then died in prison during a weightlifting accident ...

[boils2]

Two dumber sob's would be hard to find. And Daria another red diaper skank. If she is dead we are better off. He is gone and trust me we are a better nation because of it.

[michaelclarke18]

What about Mel Lyman?

[zellerzone]

I knew Mark before he was an actor. One day he was at a bus stop watching a sailor and his girlfriend having an argument. Some lady in a third-floor window interrupted the argument by dropping a flowerpot on the sailor's head. Mark's reaction to that event was what got him the role in the movie. Some talent scout happened to be waiting at the traffic light.

Mark told this story much better than I could, yet when Cavett asked him about it, he said almost nothing. He was done telling stories.

[zellerzone]

I knew Mark Frechette before all of this happened. He was a hell of a good storyteller. That wasn't apparent in the film, and even less in this interview.

[cutis1000]

What did you know about Frechette?? Do you mean you knew him before the film was shot? You make the connection between him being a good story teller and the film itself. Why would he have been a good story teller in the film?? He was an actor and given limited lines. This was due in to Antonioni's direction.

[juslookin3]

What awful interviewees!

[mcntsc]

The rest godammit! (reprise)

[bondurango]

A lot of Zabriskie Point was improvised, but it was pure Antonioni. The visuals are stunning & the desert "orgy" & "blow-up" scenes are memorable, to say the least. But he's the star of the movie. He minimized the characters & story with a petrifying pace & space like royal mummies & ruins in an archeological dig. He imposed covert aesthetic values above overt political ones. He was a landscape architect & a topological surveyor of culture who mapped his movies & put the art into artifacts.

[brushstrokesrock]

Daria Halprin - HOT! :)

[boils2]

She was a skank

[Ptrgamb]

I give Cavett credit for having people from the "counterculture" on in those days, but it wasn't uncommon for them to walk on the set and then not say much of anything. There were exceptions...Janis Joplin liked to be interviewed, for example. "Zabriskie Point" was a terrible movie, in any case

[cutis1000]

No, Zabriskie Point is NOT a terrible movie. Shame on you for even saying that! It's an OK film with some wonderful surreal moments to it. Actually, the scene in the desert where everyone is making love is just BEAUTIFUL! On the whole this film could have been much better but it's not bad by any means.

[defundthewar]

When Cavett heard the crickets chirping, he turned to Mel for help.

[sneakerino]

shre frechette dued in prison in bizzarre circumstances, a coupke of years later...

[reanimated77]

hahaha...vacant assholes!!!!

[waymichael]

Absolutely fascinating but somewhat sad too considering what ultimately happened to Frechette. I wish Halprin had said something---anything!

[brushstrokesrock]

She tried to, but Mark kept on interrupting her.

[Hgclaw]

Wow, poor, self-destructive Frechette; doesn't seem he had a chance even at this point -- interesting interview, however.

[boils2]

I thought Mark was dumb.

[Brianjonestown]

"What's your next project?"

"Thought I might rob a bank, you know...just...give it a try...yeah...z-z-z"

[alexelcurioso]

Indeed the real story about these tow youngsters (Frachette died in prision after a bank robbery)is more interesting than Antonioni´s failed film.

[brianblueskies]

Thank you. I've been waiting to see this flick for a long time.

Well, worth the wait!

[sergio920]

Certainly the gov't had nothing to do with it with its flooding of the ghettos with heroin in the aftermath of the MLK and RFK assassinations and the systematic suppression of the counterculture since through constant discredit and ridiculization of their ideals as evidenced in this interview. If any of you had any brains and understood the film in the first place this video perhaps would make more sense

[gillesbertacco]

Good point...

[sergio920]

Maybe this is how a society like America AFTER the idealism of the 60s faded left our youth and NOT the effects of drug taking and hippie principles. I bet you are the same people who believe most activists for civil rights and other causes for the advancement of the human condition naturally became junkies and burnouts.

[LyricalWax]

man I've fallen in love with these 2 even more now. what a tragic ending though.

[haasxaar]

god the 60s really stole these two kids soul - they are so dreamy and empty of any constructive thought - too much drugs and idiocy

[acmedressform]

Dick cavett is so bloody rude, how about putting your guests at ease who are obviously nervous. What a Tool.

[vikesh81]

Dicky Cavett is a genius guys !!! Mark Frechette was not nervous- just a corn fed jerk-off with an attitude problem.

[seattlepilot69]

the mel lyman group actually made an album called american avatar, lyman was once in the jim kweskin jugband. lyman made the cover of rolling stone in 1971, it was the same issue with syd barrett's last interview. i think frechette died shortly after.

[seattlepilot69]

the mel lyman family! whatever happened to them!

[daveygovanlad]

jesus !! Who IS that guy Frechette ? All cheekbones and no personality. What a jerk- and a talentless one at that !!

[lulubelle528]

you shut up that is NOT true!!! :(

[loksartre]

She comes from SAN FRANCISCO!!!

[vikesh81]

mel brooks is the sanest man in the whole interview, Frechette is a total non person and a hollow tube. Halprin needs to be pricked to say a single word.

[pierreerichexum]

who cares Frechette was HOT!!!!!

[daveygovanlad]

HOT !!!! What ? The guy is a zero as a human being. All cheekbones and no personality whatsoever !!!

[pierreerichexum]

he seemed completely uninteresting and dumb but in the film he was really sexy and good looking

[daveygovanlad]

ok. I will have to take your word for that. I didn't pay my five bucks to watch it. The reviews say it was dumb and boring and i tend to believe the reviews.

[boulderdamn]

Great footage, thanx for posting!

[shotdonkey]

daria halprin was a beautiful woman and starred in a cult movie by one of the most visionary directors of the 20th century. daria went on to become a major figure in humanistic psychology and a therapist of renown. in contrast, the high point of your sad existence is obviously to write stupid, uninformed comments on youtube to fill your empty, sad life.

being the obvious starf*cker you are, though, how about if you treated somebody close to you nicely for a change instead of fantasizing? ;-)

[saulo07]

Shotdonkey...you shot the donkey. Thx!

[bondurango]

The film is a classic. But when it was first released it bombed in the U.S. & was despised by both the politcal right & the left. It's one of a trio of English language films made by Antonioni. I'm surprised Sam Shepard, who was one of the screenwriters & was already acting in plays, wasn't cast in the lead. Rex Reed, a horrible, flaming film critic, in those days, probably hated it because he's not bothering to praise it, here. I think Pauline Kael was the only critic who defended it.

[lurkula]

Rex Reed & Mel Brooks look very young.

[srtyxczewlsrolkid]

Oh boy!

Darla Halprin is so very cute.

She look's here like arabian pricess.

My god,she have sweet voice and beautiful eyes.

Magnicicent figure and manny more parts of body.

Her body.

Wow!this is absolutely hot girl.

Silver from Poland(Great fun of Pink Floyd and Zabriskie Point).

[ironduke2000]

I see this clip a bit differently than do others here. A pair of showbiz neophytes, with no acting experience prior to "Zabriskie Point" (and chosen for the movie in part for that very reason) are led out and expected to instantly and expertly participate in "witty" talk-show banter of a kind that Brooks, Reed and Cavett, older and far more media-savvy, toss off like nothing. They're mocked, almost, from the minute they appear. How reassuring this must have been to mainstream America in 1970.

[secretadmirer8769]

wow. that was an interesting insight. thanks for that.

[jahermos]

Weirdos. Hot, both of 'em. But weird.

[vikesh81]

Frechette and Halprin have zero personality and are just holes in the air.

[PZK12]

From Wikepedia:

"died in prison in a weightlifting accident when a 150-pound bar fell on his neck, choking him to death".

[PZK12]

From Rolling Stone magazine, Nov. 6, 1975:

"He (Frechette) was the apparent victim of a bizarre accident in a recreation room at the Massachusetts Correctional Institution at Norfolk, where Frechette had been serving a six- to 15-year sentence for his participation in a 1973 Boston bank robbery."

[PZK12]

They don't do chat shows like that anymore :)

[bill500carphead]

one of my fav films ever excellent music, great cinematography, two real people in leads, no hollywood bullshit about it.its a regular on turner classic movies and deserves its place, 100 worst movies i dont think so.

[darnuck]

There have been very few people as beautiful as Daria and Mark...How clear is their beauty..Jams Dean has a mentor..how simple are the rest of them..Nothing has changed Thank God True SPIRT still shines

[boufgreg]

Go to the Mel Lyman web info site. Just Google it. There is a lot more info there you just have to sift through it all. Very interesting reading if you have the time.

[Lexum2]

Sometimes you just need to enjoy the cinamatics. Knowing to much just spoils what we sore on the screen. Same goes for your favorite band for example. Ignorance is bliss ?!?... Keep the romance.

[vikesh81]

Frechette is a man of very few words, or indeed, was a man of few words. Did he die in prison ?

[PZK12]

From Rolling Stone magazine, Nov. 6, 1975:

"He (Frechette) was the apparent victim of a bizarre accident in a recreation room at the Massachusetts Correctional Institution at Norfolk, where Frechette had been serving a six- to 15-year sentence for his participation in a 1973 Boston bank robbery."

[NDrLoR]

And on top of that, he has the personality of a stump. Makes a big deal about the interviewer not having seen the film yet commenting on it--obligatory for the time. We watched it about 10 years ago--laughed all the way through it--it easily earned its place in the book "The 100 Worst Movies Ever Made".

[NDrLoR]

What a zero. It's amazing how ridiculous Mark looks in hindsight. He was a perfect examplar of the worst of his era of young people--self-righteous, self-absorbed, self-deluding--all he does is prattle the anti-everything garbarge of the time! You can see so much of today's mindset in Silverglate's commentary of 1975--poor sensitive Mark, it's everybody's else's fault--society, the penal institution, you name it.  He was depressed--well who wasn't depressed in 1975 with 13% inflation?

[zabriskie1]

I'm pleased to see this video of them two. especially being a fan to this film and to them.

Yes I can see some tension between the two.

Ity would be nice to see more interviews of them.

Thanks

[dtifft]

Mark Frechette wasn't one of the world's most prominent intellectuals, was he?

[michaelclarke18]

Thats a very awkward interview.

[MrJJPeter]

Thanks for uploading. I agree with ClassicShowbiz - Please send the rest of the show.

[ClassicShowbiz]

The rest godammit!