You are comparing them with a digital crop factor. They should be tested at the same iso and the same zoom factor with the crop factor included. then it will be a good test. I own a D300 and am looking to get a D3s in the future.
I like your videos,except you dont know to talk about cameras,you dont know the iso values on cameras.Hi1 on D3s is 25600,Hi2 is 51200,Hi3 is 102.400.You make many mistakes,and i dont know why,because seams that you know DSLR cameras very good,but your videos are very good,good to learn.Dont mind please ok?
Dom - love the videos. Question: What is the highest ISO you'd use on a D300s when, say, shooting a wedding in a dim church? What do you recommend as the highest ISO to still capture usable images?
Dom - love the videos. Question: What is the highest ISO you'd use on a D300s when, say, shooting a wedding in a dim church? What do you recommend as the highest ISO to still capture usable images?
I am getting it in a few days.. I am crazy.. but I will... I love it... LOL :) What do you think a good lens would be for my first lens.. Keeping in mind that I wish to do wedding photography sometime this year...
@kitakits A few days later: 'OMG WHY IS PHOTOGRAPHY SO HARD? I BOUGHT JOE MCNALLYS CAMERA AND MY PICTURES ARENT AS GOOD AS HIS? THIS MEMORY CARD IS DEFECTIVE!'.
Interesting vid as always Dom, however I would have had the first two shots at 3200, if you are going to compare images, they should be compared at the same ISO. This would be so much better than at 10000 and 3200..
At 8.16 at ISO 1600 the D3s is fantastic... Noise is getting less and less with each camera incarnation..
@SoundsandImages it would be impossible to tell any difference at the same iso. it was also meant to be a shock value, people thinking they were the same then showing that they are miles different isos
Unless I know for a fact one of my images is going to be used to be plastered up on a billboard I don't care for all those high ISO's....the highest I've ever gone up to was an ISO of 500.
To be honest, I couldn't see any difference cos this is YouTube. I watched the video at 720p but still no good. It all looked blurry and smudged up especially as u scroll up and down. But one thing i noticed was the wider angle you got with the one on the left (d3s I guess)
can u explain me Why they make such high ISO ranges when its known that the image quality would be crap? Does it help in any forms of photography where all that noise looks cool for some reason?
I also think that high ISOs are a bit crap, maybe 6400 is the highest I'd ever go if I was at death's door. It's for when you really, really need it... like if you were photographing a play where you can't use a long shutter for fast-paced movement.
I don't think I've seen a cool, noisy picture, but someone could be really creative and somehow work it in.
the image quality is getting better and better with the newer cameras and the higher iso. 12800 iso on the d3s looks like iso 800 on the nikon d300 and iso400 on the fuji s5pro. the noise is becoming less
for those looking to blow up and image poster size or something along those lines, you want the best quality and with 100 and 200 ISO is where the best image quality is. Also you would use these in order to use a larger aperture (ex. f2.8) or slower shutter speed.
Yeah, I mostly do macro and jewelry pictures with flash, so I don't usually have to worry about getting enough light. I can just leave it on 100 and forget about it. But I have to say it doesn't seem as important these days to get the lowest possible ISO.
I did that was the shot where there was lots of burnt....no stuck, pixels. check 5.56. but lightroom cant put taht many numbers on its readout so it is just a dash displayed.
that may just be due to different in camera settings regarding saturation and sharpness and tone. as i said i cant show the raw file from the d3s yet,
Moron
lilaus12345 2 months ago
Anything zoomed in will have Grain/Noise
Ken5imaging 2 months ago
You are comparing them with a digital crop factor. They should be tested at the same iso and the same zoom factor with the crop factor included. then it will be a good test. I own a D300 and am looking to get a D3s in the future.
Ken5imaging 2 months ago
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but both of them take picture
azad7907 3 months ago
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azad7907 3 months ago
I like your videos,except you dont know to talk about cameras,you dont know the iso values on cameras.Hi1 on D3s is 25600,Hi2 is 51200,Hi3 is 102.400.You make many mistakes,and i dont know why,because seams that you know DSLR cameras very good,but your videos are very good,good to learn.Dont mind please ok?
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Dom - love the videos. Question: What is the highest ISO you'd use on a D300s when, say, shooting a wedding in a dim church? What do you recommend as the highest ISO to still capture usable images?
JPena1224 1 year ago
Dom - love the videos. Question: What is the highest ISO you'd use on a D300s when, say, shooting a wedding in a dim church? What do you recommend as the highest ISO to still capture usable images?
JPena1224 1 year ago
I am getting it in a few days.. I am crazy.. but I will... I love it... LOL :) What do you think a good lens would be for my first lens.. Keeping in mind that I wish to do wedding photography sometime this year...
kitakits 1 year ago
@kitakits wait!!! your buying a d3s and you dont have any lenses???? is this your first camera?
dombower 1 year ago 16
@kitakits buy a canon t2i or something lol.
xxbluejay21 3 months ago
@kitakits A few days later: 'OMG WHY IS PHOTOGRAPHY SO HARD? I BOUGHT JOE MCNALLYS CAMERA AND MY PICTURES ARENT AS GOOD AS HIS? THIS MEMORY CARD IS DEFECTIVE!'.
MrFloppywaffles 2 months ago
I guess Dom is falling for D3S :P
Start a educational class for photography and charge a million :P then buy a D3s with 14-24mm f2.8, 24-70mm f2.8, 70-200mm f2.8 lenses :D
That's my dream kit
wouldn't you agree?
mahamza86 1 year ago
wow..d3s is indeed impressive..even at 20000 iso..
kankurou89 1 year ago
really really impressive.....
hoppefan 1 year ago
Interesting vid as always Dom, however I would have had the first two shots at 3200, if you are going to compare images, they should be compared at the same ISO. This would be so much better than at 10000 and 3200..
At 8.16 at ISO 1600 the D3s is fantastic... Noise is getting less and less with each camera incarnation..
Cheers
Sounds-and-images.
SoundsandImages 1 year ago
@SoundsandImages it would be impossible to tell any difference at the same iso. it was also meant to be a shock value, people thinking they were the same then showing that they are miles different isos
dombower 1 year ago
imho the d3s is one of the most underestimated cameras yet!
one point is nikon's strange marketing strategy. they just say "oh we redesigned the sensor"
almost everybody thought it's a moderate update but it's a huge step forward in modern photography.
Sinwori 1 year ago
one little mistake: at the highest iso (hi3 setting) it's not 25.000 it's 102.000 iso.
interesting video!
Sinwori 1 year ago
yeah my bad at 6.28 should have said 102 thousand. the numbers just get soo big!
dombower 1 year ago
dang i really need to upgrade, my D80 looks like crap at just 1600 iso.
lopezae33 1 year ago
D3s is great but too big and expensive, its time Nikon brought out the D700s.
roger767 1 year ago
Could you please upload photos on the internet, so that we can better see the difference? Maybe on facebook?
mobil11 1 year ago
Maybe with a different screen capture app, the quality of the image would come through easier.
brt5470 1 year ago
Unless I know for a fact one of my images is going to be used to be plastered up on a billboard I don't care for all those high ISO's....the highest I've ever gone up to was an ISO of 500.
KEBokeh 1 year ago
To be honest, I couldn't see any difference cos this is YouTube. I watched the video at 720p but still no good. It all looked blurry and smudged up especially as u scroll up and down. But one thing i noticed was the wider angle you got with the one on the left (d3s I guess)
can u explain me Why they make such high ISO ranges when its known that the image quality would be crap? Does it help in any forms of photography where all that noise looks cool for some reason?
arseshan 1 year ago
I also think that high ISOs are a bit crap, maybe 6400 is the highest I'd ever go if I was at death's door. It's for when you really, really need it... like if you were photographing a play where you can't use a long shutter for fast-paced movement.
I don't think I've seen a cool, noisy picture, but someone could be really creative and somehow work it in.
0ldSandwich 1 year ago
the image quality is getting better and better with the newer cameras and the higher iso. 12800 iso on the d3s looks like iso 800 on the nikon d300 and iso400 on the fuji s5pro. the noise is becoming less
dombower 1 year ago
7:51 not using "DA GRIP" LOL
im just kidding ..
thanks again Dom for all that information!!
edgarbarradaskate 1 year ago
actually you may be right i might have been using DA Grip.
dombower 1 year ago
The d3s is awesome! I hear that the noise looks more like film grain.
rockergrrrl 1 year ago
i noticed very little colour noise just luminenence. but it may look different on the raw files
dombower 1 year ago
So the question I keep hearing (and thinking) is why bother using 100 ISO? or 200?
ManicEightBall 1 year ago
for those looking to blow up and image poster size or something along those lines, you want the best quality and with 100 and 200 ISO is where the best image quality is. Also you would use these in order to use a larger aperture (ex. f2.8) or slower shutter speed.
davidophoto 1 year ago
Yeah, I mostly do macro and jewelry pictures with flash, so I don't usually have to worry about getting enough light. I can just leave it on 100 and forget about it. But I have to say it doesn't seem as important these days to get the lowest possible ISO.
ManicEightBall 1 year ago
Why didn't you take a photo at 102,400 ISO , just to see how noisy it looks
lorikzzz 1 year ago 2
because its not possible yet, and would probably be quite useless
21beal21 1 year ago
I did that was the shot where there was lots of burnt....no stuck, pixels. check 5.56. but lightroom cant put taht many numbers on its readout so it is just a dash displayed.
dombower 1 year ago
i would say the right is more noise but i also think the right one has better colour!
CrazyLini 1 year ago 2
that may just be due to different in camera settings regarding saturation and sharpness and tone. as i said i cant show the raw file from the d3s yet,
dombower 1 year ago
cool vid did you end up buying a d3s?
3GBlog 1 year ago
very tempted, had a shoot 3 hours later in a dark location for a gin company and could have done with low noise shots at iso 6400.
dombower 1 year ago