YouTube- Ayaan Hirsi Ali The Free Market and Morality.flv

[hotstixx]

american enterprise institute-home of w. kristol and a whole smorgasbord of neocons.dont be taken in by her quiet charisma and beauty-the ideas are ugly.

[VeritasTruthEmet]

She is a hero but her macroeconomics are not very strong, to put it politely. 

[TheAfterLifeNow]

Thinking for yourself.. I doubt it.

[NASA19]

fame seeking cow

[Viruspirate]

@admiral20055 lol ayaan is here to stay get used to it

[thelaughingman]

I love how she just repeats crap the west loves to her. Isnt this the woman that has been under constant government protection that has cost dutch taxpayers? She's either extremely cynical or great with timing her believe in the free market when she was picked up w/ the AHA foundation. She is the pretty face of anti-immigrant right wing policies.

[michelb08]

@thelaughingman yeah just like any other who just are talking heads realy. If one thinks hey this is smart to say to the people..well they just spread it thinking they be smart hahaha. Well it's human nature I guess to be damned this way untill our species are gone forever. I would realy wanting this day see comming very soon :-)

This hirshi ali character just one of those try to tell us something not realy of any meaningfull, but then again hey shes just human lol

[ahooga]

In the free market system the cream is free to rise to the top. In a socialized democracy the milk is homogenized, the cream is blended with the watery part that contains dirt, hair and other impurities. If you enjoy cream in your coffee, you'll like the free market. If you enjoy drinking dirty milk, then have your social democracy.

[michelb08]

@ahooga what if u like beer? Does the cream u get on top is like dirty underwear in a world as clean as the manager from the open flee market? lol

What are u actualy want to tell the people? Don't try to be complicated when u actualy don't say what u talking about, just like me :-)

Though a cup of tea does do me well lol

[ahooga]

@michelb08 The head on a beer is foam, not cream. Was the best you could do to try to find an inappropriate counter-example to my analogy? Nice try.

[michelb08]

@ahooga yea like i said before, a cup of tea does do me well :)

[astronio82]

@ahooga What an oversimplification of the free market vs socialized democracy debate.

What happens if you 're born in a really poor family, while another less talented/skilled person is born in a really rich family?Is this fair?The "cream" in this case will probably never rise to the top because it will be extremely hard to get there. However, the rich person is born near the top and will just rise there with little to no effort.A fair system should address that issue. (see social liberalism)

[hakimborras]

How satisfice is youre Ego?

Fine, enghoy has much you cant, because soon or late you will face the grave. And the Day of Jugment will be a very asrsh on you. The Yahannam is the fule of the non-belifers has yourself. Get ready for the sever punsihment!

[ahooga]

Yes, sooner or later she will face the grave, and so will you. The difference will be that she will have contributed something of value. You on the other hand will have contributed nothing. In fact, for all the difference your life will have made, it will have been better if you had never been born. I wish for you the same thing that I wish for your beloved prophet Mohammed: that you be stripped naked, put on the floor, and fucked in the ass by pigs. Alluah akbar!

[michelb08]

@ahooga

lol your a sad one :-)

why if any cause do u wish people into the grave? Is that your religion that dictates you? again your sad one :-)

[hakimborras]

Yes, exactly.

Has a muslims, we wish the heareafter much more than this life. Because, the next life is eternal, and this one is just a blink.

Pepole who has no religion, no belif, they are very sad ones's, because they only expect what they see and they only get the pleasure of this materialistic world. After that they dont expect nothing else, only death. And that is very sad, they are empty from inside, no hope no God, absolutly nothing. But the believers we expect a generosity reward

[Jadiustark]

@hakimborras go away, troll

[michelb08]

@hakimborras lol how do u know? did u ever been into eternal? lol

You just have been tole or read a book like the bible or the koran or maby the donald duck lol they are all from the same category, just books try to mean something but realy is just something like a comedy :)

[hakimborras]

@michelb08

No, but this ur belif. We belif in Allah (the only One God), and all the Prophets (from Adam to Moses, Jesus and Muhammad). And all the Prophet brought the same Message: "To worship the One and only God." They perform miracles and prevent us from Hell-Fire, they call us to the true; the right pad, preventing us to comit evil. And we summit to our Lord and to His Messagers, thats way we have ben call "Muslims" (those who summit to God).

[aussieguy2109]

@hakimborras how the f*k would you know how a non-believer feels inside? i can tell you we feel happy we have no stupid bronze age dogma to follow and are free to be ourselves.

[hakimborras]

@aussieguy2109

The difference between you and me, or between a Muslim and atheist is: The prayer, moral values, laws, and we do not use rude words of expression. 

[aussieguy2109]

@hakimborras moral values? like genital mutilation, female abuse, stonings, going to hell for eating pork or showing skin or touching a dog? Laws? like women getting forced to wear vails to not turn on men? rude words of expression? you mean like death to all infidels?

Oh please religion does not relate to morality. When people say they're religious they're just saying they a gullable and believe ideas with no proof.

[hakimborras]

@aussieguy2109 Yes, moral values; meaning social rules according to the beliefs of muslim socity, not US socity. The Sahria Law (Islamic law), is only applicable to those who belief in Allah and all of the Prophes, from Adam to Muhammad. They belief in the Holy Books (from Torah to Qur'an), and in the hereafter (Paradise and Hell). And only those who summit to the Holy Law what has reveal in the past, for only those the law is applicale, not to those who are desbelievers.

[aussieguy2109]

@hakimborras no morality and social rules are not always the same. Also what is the price of leaving islam if you are born into it and later disagree? death maybe?

In democracies everyone is treated the same regardless of their stupid faiths. till for islam to get with the program the western world will not change to suit it, it must change to suit the western world.

[hakimborras]

@aussieguy2109 Yes, you spoke true! Is the same to us and to you. We both are threat, millions of muslims (women and children, civilians and soldiers) they all alredy death, also thousands of americans (civilians ans soldiers) they all redy death. And both Nations are fighting for a cause: One of them is the aggressor, and the other is defending his land, religion and law. One of them has a imperialistic agenda in the entirety islamic nation.

[aussieguy2109]

@hakimborras ok alot of those muslims who died, died because of sectarian violence that was because of religious differences. Religion should never be defended at the cost of human life, what should be defended are secular values such as freedom of speech, equality, women's rights, minority rights, gay rights and freedoms that people enjoy. America has a imperialistic agenda there is no denying it, but would you rather have have iran rule the middle east?

[michelb08]

@aussieguy2109 I agree on that one. I rather have no one rules anything! Everybody should be free from ruling, to be have real freedom among this world.

[michelb08]

@hakimborras

lol your funny guy, but then again a sad one :)