Well, Athiests DO reject the idea of God. And no, I am not God nor do I claim to be. And my spirit does not always feel one with God. I am working on that. If I was God, I would always be at peace with myself, but I am not. I am still not the being God wants me to be. And I do not always receive answers to my questions. But sometimes I do, therefore God exists. If my questions weren't answered, it would be unlikely he exists. If I can answer my own questions, then the same is true.
@WebVManReturns You do not seem to understand, good sir. And your logic is flawed. You claim not to be god, yet you assume he is always at peace with himself. How do you know if you are not him?
Also you say you are not the person god wants you to be (yet). But are you the person you want to be? Or do you want to be the person god wants you to be? And who is he then? Finally, you sometimes receiving answers to your questions does not prove god exists and vice versa. Not at all.
@Kingcobra123lp So what your saying is that you are the type who builds a bomb shelter, stocks it with food/water, and waits in preparation for the end?
@SCNewbCaster The analogy of the Japanese gentleman works both ways. I could say that there's overwhelming evidence that atheism is true and that YOU are the one who refuses to believe. That argument gets you nowhere. Aside from that, you have no evidence that God exists, you just don't. And if you do have evidence, then please show us. I would like to see it.
Outstanding logic used in this video. The only criticism I have on this is that there is no basis that we are ourselves our God. Mind you, it feels right, but there is about as much logic behind that declaration as there is in a theist's declaration that God exists.
what a douche!!! Don't even know the typical.....Human behavior....consider yourself..."un-theist". Rejection ----------->>> WTF?? You also feel the same....!!! " The problem with world is that the the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence!!!" Such an IRONY!!!!
Fascinating video. I thought it would only be mildly entertaining, but I was really intrigued by your logic, especially from 4:08 on. That's when the premises you mention all come together. It's a fascinating hypotheses, and it certainly explains the passionate anger certain theists feel.
but if someone were to say the same thing about your parents, you'd have those same feelings and I'm not sure but isn't God looked at as a father to all?
This video needs to be redone professionally, produced into a friendlier bit, freed from it's heavy tone, and shown to as many people as possible. The message is great and the explanations are dead on.
they say man cannot judge god, but if god didn't want us to judge him, he would give us a reason not to, by showing every human being he exists. either hes a asshole or a troll. you guys decide
As a strong Christian all I have to say is... Touché.
This is a very well built argument in fact I'm going to give it a like despite me beliefs I recognize your talent for making an argument as far more better than my feeble attempts to mutter every day conversations. Good day to you sir.
There's no point of arguing religious people unless they're coming to you themselves and bother you with their 'missionary'. They're just like the example of the mad Japanese guy below, they don't care of evidence.
Because with anyone who considers the book which terribly contradicts itself and modern society (being written for the people of ancient times but the society has evolved way beyond that) the absolute and ever valid truth there's no point of talking about evidence and logic.
There is a story of a Japanese general who holed up on a tiny Island after World War II. He refused to believe that the war was over. Any attempt to convince him otherwise, he wrote of as a trick or deception. he CHOSE to believe the war wasn't over despite overwhelming and convincing evidence. God gives all the right to doubt him, but just cause you have the right to make a bad choice doesn't mean you should.
The critical flaw in your argument is that you doubt people have a right to choose. All people have a choice. God does give you the right to doubt him. If god, being all powerful, did not give anyone the right to doubt him, then no one would doubt him. Perhaps you've never found that "convincing evidence" that is so necessary because you have never thoroughly explored the option to determine if it were real. People can deny the truth even in the face of overwhelming evidence. Choice is real
@SCNewbCaster He isn't denying that choice is real, he is saying that atheists do not make a choice when they don't believe in God. Choice doesn't play in to matters of faith; either you have enough evidence to prove something to yourself or you don't. Choosing to believe in something that you actually doubt exists is just denial.
"Belief is not a choice. Its a compulsion beyond the realm of choice achieved through convincing arguments, Evidence, and trust."
Sounds like that is exactly what he is saying. Hitler had the trust of his people, lots of convincing arguments, and evidence to back them up. If people only believe what they are compelled to believe they are pawns. We act on what we believe. If we don't choose what we believe, then ultimately we do not choose how to act.
Hitler tried to justify himself though eugenics. Nazi eugenics has been thoroughly destroyed by science since then. Evidence clearly does not support Hitler.
@MyBrosRNinjaNFarmer A dependence on "science" is an enabling attribute. People who rely on others to tell them what to do, become pawns of strong and compelling individuals. People are afraid to believe in GOD, because their GOD (Science) hasn't told them he is real. I know GOD is real, but I don't rely on him to tell me how to live my life. I even think and act on my own without double checking with him. Do you fear you'll offend "science" if you believe in GOD?
@SCNewbCaster People do not have the right to choose what is empirically true. What you believe in does not give you the right to substantiate it to others while avoiding the burden of proof.
Saying "I believe in God" might be okay. But there is definitely something inherently wrong in saying "there is a God."
Please I need a full understanding of this video (because I just love it), in the part where he says that a different believer of the same god doesn't share the same opinions, can anyone explain me his point? I've seen several times the video but I find it difficult in that part. thanks
@Shashimir He is basically saying that, because you are your own god, your god considers your doings as "good" or "not as bad", and, even if another person believes in that same god (i.e. has the same religion as you), he and his doings differ somewhat from yours so he considers other stuff more, or less, relevant in what's morally correct. In that way the same god has different moral for different people.
I dislike (some) atheist because, yes, there is no proof of God existence the same way there is no proof of his inexistence, yet they (again, some) try to force you their belief (or lack of) into ours like it's the absolute truth. We, humans, right now have mathematical proof that there are 7 more dimensions (aside from the first 3), but, that same way, until we have physical proof we won't really know for sure if numbers just fit or they do because it IS true.
@AlexLococo There is also no proof for the nonexistence of the tooth fairy, or zeus. But I doubt very much that you believe in these. Why are you so sure that the god you were raised (I'm guessing) to believe in is correct? Have you read the quran or bhagavadgita? There have been many gods. I am sure you reject most if not all except your chosen god. When you understand why you don't accept osiris or apollo you will understand why most atheists reject your god.
@AtheistPowerlifter No there is no proof of Zeus' nonexistence (thank you, btw), but the fact that they are or not the true ones (because they could be) or that none actually exist (because this IS possible too) does not affect me. You see, I have faith, and faith translates to the belief in something that may or may not be true, but there's currently no proof on wether or not it is true. Only when it's proven false, it stops being faith and becomes obsession and denial.
@AlexLococo I appreciate your answer. I understand faith (I was once a christian), but I do not see it as a virtue. It is believing something without any evidence. Usually - not saying this is true in your case - because it makes one feel better. I value the truth, and until there is any evidence at all, I see no reason to believe in any gods.
The problem I have with religions is that it usually arrogantly tries to force others to see things its way.
@AtheistPowerlifter Shallow faith is lazy and that is a vice, much more virtuous would be strong atheism, because it has convictions. The same way goes around: I know many atheists that simply try to compete with me, because, I'm religious, how smart could I be? And fall into hypocrisy of intolerance because I'm intolerant and stupid (even if I'm not), but you believe in something because that's what you believe in, not because it makes you smarter than most people. For me, that's lazy atheism.
@AlexLococo Undertsood. I've met few theists I'd call stupid (face it though - there are many rick santorums out there) but I have met many who're intolerant. I do think that some of their beliefs are ridiculous - but that does not mean I don't respect them or their right to believe whatever they want.
Atheism doesn't make me smarter...it doesn't make me anything. It just means I don't believe in god.
Cheers. Mexico is awesome, been 11 times. Yes unfortunately just touristy places.
@AlexLococo Oh I'll be back...we have a plan to retire there eventually. Beautiful country and people...more tolerant and laid back than even Canadians.
Now, I'm not saying I hope each and every atheist dies, no, for I do not hate you, I'm just not happy with the idea that bad people can be forgiven without their complete punishment, but that's not my business, because I'm no God to judge.
@AlexLococo "I'm not saying I hope each and every atheist dies...I'm just not happy with the idea that bad people can be forgiven without their complete punishment".
So all atheists are "bad" people? By whose standards? And who "forgives"? I don't want to be 'forgiven'...the idea of scapegoating my mistakes onto a human being is vile. Only you ca atone for your own mistakes...you are accountable to those around you. There is no passing if off...this is childish in my opinion.
I'm sorry to break this, but, if we are fair, I believe and have faith in all that I know (think; theology it's still not an exact science) God's thoughts are, and even then I don't agree with everything. E.g. Jesus came to earth to say that God is Love and Mercy, not Justice and Punishment (contrary to what both atheist and theists think religion preaches), however, I cannot say that I'm pleased that God is more merciful than just, even though I do believe him to be that way.
@AlexLococo You said "Jesus came to earth to say that God is Love and Mercy, not Justice and Punishment ".
Yet...Matthew 10:34 "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." A direct contradiction of his sermon on the mount. Then again, because he was just a man, jesus contradicts himself a few times. "pray in your clsets quietly" and later "go spread the word". For ex.
@AlexLococo You also said "theology is not an exact science". Theology has nothing to do with science. There are no experiements and testing of hypothesis...there is just the study of ancient vague texts, and the thousands of opinions on them (hence the 30,000+ sects of christianity for example).
Also, yes, many scientists from long ago were theists...they had little choice. ALL people were of some religion...atheism was hardly a reasonable choice. Fortunately we know more now.
@AtheistPowerlifter If theology isn't a science, sociology isn't either, for there is no experiments and testings that could go on a lab the same way that go in real life. Theology is a science because it encompasses from the study of the ancient texts to how it affects societies in their lives, their rites, everything that has to do with religion. It's social anthropology in it's core. Atheism has ben around ever since Socrates, so, no they do had choice.
@AlexLococo Yes good point, there has always been atheism. But you must admit that many earlt scientists and thinkers could not easily be open with their doubts and still be taken seriously by their peers. I would propose that if they were here today, the majority would be atheists - due to our secular society in north america - it's much easier to express disbelief (somewhat)
@AtheistPowerlifter I do agree with that and I do not support fellow religious people making us all sound like intolerant assholes. I myself as a both as a religious and science man, would be discriminated in those times because I don't believe in the explanation "because God says so" to our moral basis between other things that many religious people still use to this day, but it is unfair to generalize us all like that.
@AlexLococo I see. Well I try not to generalize theists, but honestly most theists (muslims, hindus, christians) react the same way when my atheism comes up in the workplace etc - disdain, disgust, mistrust, and assumptions that I must be stupid. We are talking 90% of the time. I have actually lost some friends (christians) due to my lack of belief. It is hard not to generalize, as atheists are also generalized.
@AlexLococo Sociology isn't really a hard science, although they do use the scientific method in some of their social experiments. it is simply the study of human social behaviour. Theology is the study of religion snad it's influences (so part sociology I guess).
Not trying to start a fight here either...I see what you are saying in your posts. Just trying to show a different viewpoint.
@AlexLococo Now - and I am not trying to put words in your mouth - I am sure you will say to me what most theists say: I don't REALLY understand scripture...most christians don't act like true christians (which is vaguely described as "following jesus word")...we can't possibly understand god (the god works in mysterious ways gambit of intellectual laziness)...that the virgin birthmiracles/resurrection/empty tomb MUST mean that jesus was real etc.
@AtheistPowerlifter Well, yes, but then again, the fellow that made credible the big bang theory was a catholic priest.
But I do understand one thing in the bible: somewhere, I don't remember exactly where, it says that the bible should be a guide and not a rule book, basically the only true rules us as christians (although I can only speak for catholicism) are the ten commandments.
@AlexLococo Hahaha yep, I am told that (the catholic priest big bang connection) whenever I have a discussion with my theist friends. there are many many smart theists. I just find it baffling that they turn off their science brain when in church (virgin birth, stars standing still in the sky, talking animals etc). Anyways.
@AtheistPowerlifter Well, those are dogmas, unlike scientology, ours are not "scientific dogmas", so there is actually no negation (I mean, dogma = can't be explained, scientific = can be explained, wth?). It's, again, a matter of faith.
On the bible stuff, yes, I do agree it's bloody and violent and kinda messed up (or very messed up), but most, if not, all of those quotes are from the old testament, that's why there's a new testament, with Jesus everywhere saying "that's not what he meant".
@AlexLococo Well, I agree about the difference between the new and old testament can be seen, though the NT isn't all sunshine and rainbows. Also, jesus did say that "every jot and tittle of old testament law must be fulfilled". And the 10 comandments are in the OT, so you can't have your cake and eat it too. But yes I get what you are saying.
@AtheistPowerlifter No, of course not, the destruction of almost every man alive and the torture of another are not blissful readings, but Jesus did add another commandment, "love your brother the way I loved you", coming from a man from that time that hanged out with poor people, lepers, blinds, tax collectors and prostitutes means a lot, because it basically says to tolerate and love people despite the bible.
Also, I'm a secular humanist, so it's not the only reason why I'm tolerant. =)
@AlexLococo I have also heard the bible referred to in this way, though I think it is a horrible rule book...advocation of slavery and genocide, hell concept, segregation of peoples etc.
The 10 commandments are interesting. I believe that you yourself could write a better 10 commandments in five minutes...only a few even apply...onr equates women with chatel, 4 are narcissitic rules to "worship no other gods". Nothing about respecting children, animals...a poor moral guide. IMO.
@AtheistPowerlifter In respect of the 10 commandments, since it's for christians, I don't think it is that narcissistic. If you have a son, how would you feel him calling another man "dad", instead of you? Same applies here. But it's not absolutely like that, "not praising other gods" is not only about gods, but about praising money, food, everything that could be a vice and turn your life around it, it then becomes more like your son saying "piss off, I have -insert vice here-".
Good stuff - a new angle on religious hatred. I've always felt that theists are profoundly threatened by science and rationality to the core of their being, and so they should be. This video does much to explain why in a simple, accessible manner. Isn't it interesting how they try to expose flaws in the logic of atheists or insist on absolute proof of evolution etc., these people who readily subscribe to water into wine, virgin births, walking on water, holy ghosts and the living dead?
BRAVO! i'm deffinately a "spiritual" person, i believe that my energy doesnt just dissapear and i believe in science and basic fact as well, religeon is brainwashing. In a way i feel more compelled to side with the athiest. Anyways amazing video i loved it, so true.
@themousemaster Hot damn, how do you always find such amazing videos. This video was mind-blowing. My jaw dropped halfway through when he talked about God being you. Its common sense, but i never thought of it. But do you understand the very last bit when you see his face? i didnt understand what he was saying. I'm too tired. Lol.
@Bludhoundz8 Haha, i guess i like exploring. learning for me is fun, its what i do in my free time haha...i need a life. exactly i dont see why people dont get that, god is just your ego as humans we look for something or someone that relates to us and if we cant find it we basically create it in our own reality, atleast thats how i see it. i think i get the end bit, you cant reject something if its not clearly presented to you (just like he said), i'm bad at wording XD
@Killer27586 Science does not has a fight with religion, and has never had one on people smart enough to handle both. I'm not saying you're stupid, I'm simply pointing out that there are many religious people that are, and simply reject (see what I did there?) science, while many of us simply accept both, because there isn't a real fight. The ones that do have a fight are people, but ideas and knowledge do not. Grigori Perelman and Isaac Newton both believe(d) in God, and are/were no fools.
Atheist are also hated because they are an outgroup, and seen as worse than other religions. A different religion may not seem so threatening to a person, while atheism is seen as a direct threat.
@darkangel2139 Atheists are hated because they call bullshit on all religions. It points out that not only does the emperor have no clothes but also the empire has no emperor. It makes the quibbling over theological details seem as silly as they in really are.
Look at your hands. Now, count how many fingers you have. Say out loud how many fingers you have. Now let us test your faith. I want you to honestly believe that you have twenty-seven fingers. Count them again. Do you believe that you have 27? If you do not believe this, you lack faith. You must choose to believe that you have 27 fingers. Count them again. If you do not believe that you have 27 fingers, your soul will burn for all eternity. With love, God
Amazing sir! Absolutely awesome description of how some religious people act. Tyler Durden is God- SO FUNNY!! And you sound a little like Christopher Walken which makes this like the coolest video ever.
@Judicial78 Nailed it right on the head for me. That's what I was going to say, I feel rejected sometimes and tend to have natural discord towards theists...
Marvelous! Too many atheist try to explain this through mockery, but you sir, managed without. Being disrespectful doesn't get you nearly as far when it comes to enlightening a closed mind, as showing respect and understanding will. You are a gentleman, and a scholar.
merde, that's disturbing. I know christians, jews, muslims, atheists, pagans, hidus and the occasional wichen and I realize, its not gods and demons who are evil. Its men
How can you "reject" something that has no evidence for it, plenty of evidence against it, and from any rational and realistic standpoint, doesn't exist? I don't have to "reject" unicorns or bigfoot, I just have to be in touch with reality.
@Viddaric To be in touch with reality, you have to reject the absurd. It's how you actually get to reality. You can’t just declare, “I’m living in reality!” and then not reject the idiotic ideas that come your way. You DO reject them, whether you do it consciously or not.
@Viddaric You don't get it dummy. They are promoting a reflection of self in an omnipotent role. Just like how you project your own traits on your pet dog (which isn't like you regardless) others project a reflection of themselves on to the very meaning and function of the universe. It's an easy trap to fall into.
@Delinexwow Coded information testifies if intelligence. Population geneticists have concluded that we are degenerating. Adaptation is programmed into the genome with genetic boundaries. You lack understanding!
My responce to this video is. Both sides shut the fuck up. Atheists stop acting like ur roman era christians. Cuz u havent the slightest clue about persecution. Especially in america. Theists stfu none of u are not mindful enough of God to b evangilists for God.
I BELIEVE IN GOD BUT ALL THAT RELIGIOUS SHYT, I DONT. AND THE BIBLE I DO THINK IT STARTED OUT AS THE TRUTH BUT AS IT GOT PASSED DOWN, THE STORIES CHANGED, IT WAS MISTRANSLATED AND EVERYTHING. I DO BELIEVE A LIL BIT OF THE BIBLE IS THE TRUTH, THE BIBLE DOES HAVE SOME GOOD TEACHINGS. AGAIN I BELIEVE IN GOD BUT NOT HOW SOME PEOPLE PORTRAY GOD TO BE, I DO BELIEVE GOD IS LOVIN
I hate how this guy pretends atheists are all innocent victims. Bc in my case, b tht facebook. I am consistantly looked down upon by my peers. I understand som theists go extreme. But damn evn tho i agree partly with this video why do i feel STILL within the cursors of the a/theist fight. How bout both yall shutup.
@liodago He doesn't pretend atheists are "all innocent victims" he is generalising and speaking for the majority. You theists and your straw-man arguments lol.
As per Sam Harris's experiment you can find it listed at his name dot org, he notes the speed in which what we believe comes to mind.
He measures belief, disbelief and I dont know, and in that order they come to play.
Sam suggests that a reward system is somehow in play that dictates belief come in first, the reason I dont know is the slowest may be because of confusion or confabulation, not sure
A theists reward is 2 fold, go to heaven and not go to hell, so it would be a powerful reward system
The link isnt that the theist is god, it has to do with whats called empathy neurons or as V.S. Ramachandran likes to call them, Dhali Lama neurons
When a person youre watching hits their hand with a hammer, you jerk, why ?
The study shows shows that with chimps and monkeys they will try and stop another from making the same mistake that caused them pain, before the new victim actually gets zapped by the experiment
@RotaryLover87 Haha! your ignorance is hilarious! 'why is there no planet like ours in the galaxy?' where are you getting your information from?! I'll enlighten you, NASA's Kepler telescope surveys just a minuscule fraction of our galaxy, and already it has found over 1000 planets, 54 of them in the 'goldilocks' zone like us, and 5 of them earth sized. Now imagine how many of these earth like planets there would be in the whole galaxy; billions.
@dEViN1887 Studies have shown they are the most disliked and least trusted minority in the whole of the USA and are viewed as the 'least american'. That includes homosexuals, Muslims, blacks etc
@FrankieSayRelaxxx1 Welllll thing is buddy, people cant really tell youre an atheist from just looking at you. Typically religion is something you only discuss with closer friends who are curious and probably won't shun you based on your response. Even upon inquiry, faith is a somewhat private thing so it's acceptable to not answer. So unless you run around telling everyone off about their faith cuz you like to argue, they wouldn't know. And in that case I'd hate you too!
@dEViN1887 Be that as it may, it does not change the statistics. Most atheists don't do any of that anyway. In fact, most people I know are at least non-religious (I am not sure about atheist)and I have never known anybody to "run around telling everyone off about their faith".
@dEViN1887 So religion is a private thing so that is why Pat Robertson's arse is all over the TV. That is why when I lived miles from another house on a dirt road that Jahova's disterbed my privacy. Jesus came for the lost sheep of Israel. Only dum goyim fall for the ZioNazi god to fight their battles only to become chattel of the international bankster spawn. Futuristic Naturalism! Homo Sapiens Manifesto! NO ZIONAZI FINAL JUDGMENT! You are now free of original sin,hate,greed,war profiteering
@Shadowmil2 Welllll thing is buddy, people cant really tell youre an atheist from just looking at you. Typically religion is something you only discuss with closer friends who are curious and probably won't shun you based on your response. Even upon inquiry, faith is a somewhat private thing so it's acceptable to not answer. So unless you run around telling everyone off about their faith cuz you like to argue, they wouldn't know. And in that case I'd hate you too!
@RotaryLover87 It's funny how you're insulting all atheists, when you yourself are acting like the typical arrogant religious person who won't accept any other point of view than their own.
@kanyeairjordans, seriously, I know exactly what you're saying, and i hate when they beat around the bush and hide behind the rocks to avoid the truth.. It's disgusting how ignorance has a way of robbing people of their ability to think rationally. I believe that if anyone holds such a strong belief, then they should not be afraid of or offended by people who are simply trying to challenge their "potentially flawed" beliefs..And @coffeeisnecessary, you're black, so what?
I believe that people should respect others. Why "challenge their potentially flawed beliefs?" Why not leave them alone? And how do you know your views are "the truth"? And just a simple question, I want an honest answer. Why do you atheists always chase theists of the Christian faith yet largely ignore theists from other religions?
@Justinian43 The reason why we don't just 'leave them alone' is because these beliefs are potentially harmful, and can also have a detrimental effect on those outside the religion. In many cases this has been demonstrated by the believers themselves, time and time again.
How are these beliefs potentially harmful? You are so vague. What have the believers demonstrated? Your first comment was a good honest response, this last comment makes no sense. You just don't leave us alone is because you dislike christianity and you don;t like the fact that atheists have always been a minority, plain and simple. I dislike atheism but I can tolerate atheists as long as they don't disrespect me..
@Justinian43 How are religious beliefs harmful? Think of these incidents which religion is a direct cause of or played a significant role in causing: 9/11 (Islam), London Bus bombings (Islam), The majority of terrorism today (Islam), The Spanish and Papal Inquisition (Christianity), teaching of pseudo-science such as 'intelligent design' in USA schools (Christianity), homophobia (Christianity, Judaism and Islam), prejudice towards and bullying of non believers (Christianity, Judaism and Islam)
@FrankieSayRelaxxx1 I believe in god and I don't see myself doing those things. Like the "Kingdom of Heaven" quote goes "I am not those men, I am Salahuddin" (Saladin) {replace Saladin with my name} Plain and simple. Your whole argument went downhill because I know plenty of nice religious people just like I know plenty of atheist assholes... boo-hoo!
@Justinian43 the many cases of people praying for their sick children instead of taking them to a hospital, and the children dying as a result of getting no medical care (There are recorded cases of Christians in the USA and UK doing this, but this happens among people with many different religious beliefs and is relatively commonplace among those who live in countries classed as LEDCs),...
@FrankieSayRelaxxx1 And I do not give a shit, you are so annoying you know. It's like going to a german and saying. Hey dude, being of german descent is bad! *listing everything from the germanic tribes that brought down the roman empire to hitler...* Just because there were some stupid people that did stupid things doesn't make religion bad because I can find plenty of heroes and legends that were religious and ruled their lands with justice and passion. Please Stop!
@Justinian43 politicians trying to get laws passed in the USA specifically endorsing Christianity (Christianity), the crusades (Christianity + Islam), the spreading of lies (mostly among Catholic majority countries in Africa) by the Pope that Condoms don’t help against/increase the incidence of HIV/AIDS,.. etc etc, the list goes on and on for I have many more examples.
@FrankieSayRelaxxx1 Will you ever shut up? You can thank this religious state commonly known as the Byzantine Empire that preserved classic western culture and left so much knowledge and scholars for the world to enjoy, especially the italians (renaissance) "Lost to the West" by Lard Brownworth... Read and shut up!
If Athiests were Chrisitans, then they would understand that people are not God for they would understand the relationship between man and God.
WebVManReturns 7 hours ago
Well, Athiests DO reject the idea of God. And no, I am not God nor do I claim to be. And my spirit does not always feel one with God. I am working on that. If I was God, I would always be at peace with myself, but I am not. I am still not the being God wants me to be. And I do not always receive answers to my questions. But sometimes I do, therefore God exists. If my questions weren't answered, it would be unlikely he exists. If I can answer my own questions, then the same is true.
WebVManReturns 7 hours ago
@WebVManReturns You do not seem to understand, good sir. And your logic is flawed. You claim not to be god, yet you assume he is always at peace with himself. How do you know if you are not him?
Also you say you are not the person god wants you to be (yet). But are you the person you want to be? Or do you want to be the person god wants you to be? And who is he then? Finally, you sometimes receiving answers to your questions does not prove god exists and vice versa. Not at all.
ThomasEJC 7 hours ago
because religious people severely limit their intelligence.
MPSecare 9 hours ago
If ur atheist y u even here ur going to hell we crhistians ain't crazy we r prepare
Kingcobra123lp 19 hours ago
@Kingcobra123lp So what your saying is that you are the type who builds a bomb shelter, stocks it with food/water, and waits in preparation for the end?
Most people nowadays identify that as crazy...
TEDDERAMA 7 hours ago
@SCNewbCaster The analogy of the Japanese gentleman works both ways. I could say that there's overwhelming evidence that atheism is true and that YOU are the one who refuses to believe. That argument gets you nowhere. Aside from that, you have no evidence that God exists, you just don't. And if you do have evidence, then please show us. I would like to see it.
Category120 22 hours ago
This is Feuerbach-ish, isn't it?
NNOTM 23 hours ago
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NNOTM 23 hours ago
Outstanding logic used in this video. The only criticism I have on this is that there is no basis that we are ourselves our God. Mind you, it feels right, but there is about as much logic behind that declaration as there is in a theist's declaration that God exists.
All the rest, though, I agree with.
darkridr25 23 hours ago
I created the world? I created life? interesting, Idealism.
Quentarus 1 day ago
what a douche!!! Don't even know the typical.....Human behavior....consider yourself..."un-theist". Rejection ----------->>> WTF?? You also feel the same....!!! " The problem with world is that the the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence!!!" Such an IRONY!!!!
nevermindtheidiots 1 day ago
Soooooo I'm god...time to start smiting!
wolfmanavalos 1 day ago
DEVS EST HOMO
1001suns 1 day ago
a woman asking a man out on a date AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
bad start asshole!
MrRamquez 1 day ago
So theists are just mentally unstable. I knew it.
rockoman100 1 day ago
brilliant!
Desixtubex 2 days ago
This is really interesting. I can see how atheists respond the exact same way.
tarheel32blue 2 days ago 2
great analogy
eyestepback 2 days ago
@4:07
FTW
bmcmanus28 3 days ago
I love watching this video
antoniodowns12 3 days ago
darkmatter2525 i admire your persistence and knowledge :) thank you for your videos...and sorry about the horrible spelling and grammar
lostcauze88 3 days ago 2
Fascinating video. I thought it would only be mildly entertaining, but I was really intrigued by your logic, especially from 4:08 on. That's when the premises you mention all come together. It's a fascinating hypotheses, and it certainly explains the passionate anger certain theists feel.
ltntlocust 3 days ago 14
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The burden of proof is on you. You just made an unfalsifiable claim that guess what? You cant prove
xRoasted 3 days ago
@xRoasted I can know it without proving it to you. I'm just letting you know. Your right to doubt me doesn't change what I know.
SCNewbCaster 1 day ago
but if someone were to say the same thing about your parents, you'd have those same feelings and I'm not sure but isn't God looked at as a father to all?
Emilybudgie 3 days ago
@Emilybudgie If someone said my mother was a 400lbs hippo I would not care because obviously I know my own mother better.
If my mother actually was a 400lbs hippo and someone said she was one. again why would i care?
TheDebtisslavery 2 days ago
@TheDebtisslavery You may not care but I and probably most people would
Emilybudgie 2 days ago
@Emilybudgie then they must ask themselves why do they care?
TheDebtisslavery 2 days ago
Excellent logic. Very refreshing.
bax2684 4 days ago
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tffirmo 4 days ago
this is a compelling video with great points to argue... Over all ... good work!!!
tarnakmorheiee 4 days ago
This is some really fine psycho babble.
kjvjay 4 days ago
This video needs to be redone professionally, produced into a friendlier bit, freed from it's heavy tone, and shown to as many people as possible. The message is great and the explanations are dead on.
jpsaverino 4 days ago
@jpsaverino thetone is fine.. maybe the intonation you don't like ;)
byzmoPROPAGANDA 4 days ago
they say man cannot judge god, but if god didn't want us to judge him, he would give us a reason not to, by showing every human being he exists. either hes a asshole or a troll. you guys decide
cavs608 5 days ago
As a strong Christian all I have to say is... Touché.
This is a very well built argument in fact I'm going to give it a like despite me beliefs I recognize your talent for making an argument as far more better than my feeble attempts to mutter every day conversations. Good day to you sir.
CJZSS23 5 days ago
but.. but god does exist! BITCH SHUT THE FUCK UP
MagicCat3 5 days ago
@MagicCat3 Is that seriously the best you can do? Or are you just being deliberately ironic?
hotelmario510 5 days ago
@SCNewbCaster You say that there is overwhelming evidence that God exists... what, exactly, is that evidence?
Category120 5 days ago
@Category120 If your not clear on what I was stating, then you can't argue against my points.
SCNewbCaster 1 day ago
There's no point of arguing religious people unless they're coming to you themselves and bother you with their 'missionary'. They're just like the example of the mad Japanese guy below, they don't care of evidence.
Because with anyone who considers the book which terribly contradicts itself and modern society (being written for the people of ancient times but the society has evolved way beyond that) the absolute and ever valid truth there's no point of talking about evidence and logic.
Meresortsitar 5 days ago
There is a story of a Japanese general who holed up on a tiny Island after World War II. He refused to believe that the war was over. Any attempt to convince him otherwise, he wrote of as a trick or deception. he CHOSE to believe the war wasn't over despite overwhelming and convincing evidence. God gives all the right to doubt him, but just cause you have the right to make a bad choice doesn't mean you should.
SCNewbCaster 5 days ago
The critical flaw in your argument is that you doubt people have a right to choose. All people have a choice. God does give you the right to doubt him. If god, being all powerful, did not give anyone the right to doubt him, then no one would doubt him. Perhaps you've never found that "convincing evidence" that is so necessary because you have never thoroughly explored the option to determine if it were real. People can deny the truth even in the face of overwhelming evidence. Choice is real
SCNewbCaster 5 days ago
@SCNewbCaster He isn't denying that choice is real, he is saying that atheists do not make a choice when they don't believe in God. Choice doesn't play in to matters of faith; either you have enough evidence to prove something to yourself or you don't. Choosing to believe in something that you actually doubt exists is just denial.
Seishae 5 days ago
@Seishae See 05:37
"Belief is not a choice. Its a compulsion beyond the realm of choice achieved through convincing arguments, Evidence, and trust."
Sounds like that is exactly what he is saying. Hitler had the trust of his people, lots of convincing arguments, and evidence to back them up. If people only believe what they are compelled to believe they are pawns. We act on what we believe. If we don't choose what we believe, then ultimately we do not choose how to act.
SCNewbCaster 4 days ago
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Evidence...
Hitler tried to justify himself though eugenics. Nazi eugenics has been thoroughly destroyed by science since then. Evidence clearly does not support Hitler.
MyBrosRNinjaNFarmer 4 days ago
@MyBrosRNinjaNFarmer A dependence on "science" is an enabling attribute. People who rely on others to tell them what to do, become pawns of strong and compelling individuals. People are afraid to believe in GOD, because their GOD (Science) hasn't told them he is real. I know GOD is real, but I don't rely on him to tell me how to live my life. I even think and act on my own without double checking with him. Do you fear you'll offend "science" if you believe in GOD?
SCNewbCaster 1 day ago
@SCNewbCaster People do not have the right to choose what is empirically true. What you believe in does not give you the right to substantiate it to others while avoiding the burden of proof.
Saying "I believe in God" might be okay. But there is definitely something inherently wrong in saying "there is a God."
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@MyBrosRNinjaNFarmer I would just like to inform you that...
There is a God.
SCNewbCaster 4 days ago
@SCNewbCaster there is your claim, you have the burden of proof i assume?
wheeimvegan 4 days ago
@wheeimvegan I'll accept the burden of proof. But I won't waste my breath on people who have already made up their minds against my position.
SCNewbCaster 1 day ago
@SCNewbCaster Exactly
ScientificChristian1 1 day ago
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@SCNewbCaster Nobody has made up their minds against your position. We just don't accept your position because you have no proof.
ImFlareonBitch 21 hours ago
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"Informing" me would imply you base anything based on information. You don't. Pure belief doesn't count.
MyBrosRNinjaNFarmer 4 days ago
@MyBrosRNinjaNFarmer Let me clarify. I know God exist. Accept it or not, that's your choice.
SCNewbCaster 1 day ago
so true!
withcause1 5 days ago
Please I need a full understanding of this video (because I just love it), in the part where he says that a different believer of the same god doesn't share the same opinions, can anyone explain me his point? I've seen several times the video but I find it difficult in that part. thanks
Shashimir 5 days ago in playlist Favorite videos
@Shashimir He is basically saying that, because you are your own god, your god considers your doings as "good" or "not as bad", and, even if another person believes in that same god (i.e. has the same religion as you), he and his doings differ somewhat from yours so he considers other stuff more, or less, relevant in what's morally correct. In that way the same god has different moral for different people.
AlexLococo 5 days ago
I dislike (some) atheist because, yes, there is no proof of God existence the same way there is no proof of his inexistence, yet they (again, some) try to force you their belief (or lack of) into ours like it's the absolute truth. We, humans, right now have mathematical proof that there are 7 more dimensions (aside from the first 3), but, that same way, until we have physical proof we won't really know for sure if numbers just fit or they do because it IS true.
AlexLococo 5 days ago
@AlexLococo There is also no proof for the nonexistence of the tooth fairy, or zeus. But I doubt very much that you believe in these. Why are you so sure that the god you were raised (I'm guessing) to believe in is correct? Have you read the quran or bhagavadgita? There have been many gods. I am sure you reject most if not all except your chosen god. When you understand why you don't accept osiris or apollo you will understand why most atheists reject your god.
AtheistPowerlifter 5 days ago
@AtheistPowerlifter No there is no proof of Zeus' nonexistence (thank you, btw), but the fact that they are or not the true ones (because they could be) or that none actually exist (because this IS possible too) does not affect me. You see, I have faith, and faith translates to the belief in something that may or may not be true, but there's currently no proof on wether or not it is true. Only when it's proven false, it stops being faith and becomes obsession and denial.
AlexLococo 5 days ago
@AlexLococo I appreciate your answer. I understand faith (I was once a christian), but I do not see it as a virtue. It is believing something without any evidence. Usually - not saying this is true in your case - because it makes one feel better. I value the truth, and until there is any evidence at all, I see no reason to believe in any gods.
The problem I have with religions is that it usually arrogantly tries to force others to see things its way.
AtheistPowerlifter 5 days ago
@AtheistPowerlifter Shallow faith is lazy and that is a vice, much more virtuous would be strong atheism, because it has convictions. The same way goes around: I know many atheists that simply try to compete with me, because, I'm religious, how smart could I be? And fall into hypocrisy of intolerance because I'm intolerant and stupid (even if I'm not), but you believe in something because that's what you believe in, not because it makes you smarter than most people. For me, that's lazy atheism.
AlexLococo 5 days ago
@AlexLococo Undertsood. I've met few theists I'd call stupid (face it though - there are many rick santorums out there) but I have met many who're intolerant. I do think that some of their beliefs are ridiculous - but that does not mean I don't respect them or their right to believe whatever they want.
Atheism doesn't make me smarter...it doesn't make me anything. It just means I don't believe in god.
Cheers. Mexico is awesome, been 11 times. Yes unfortunately just touristy places.
AtheistPowerlifter 5 days ago
@AtheistPowerlifter If you ever manage to come here again , search for "Pueblos Mágicos", beautiful towns that haven't been changed in centuries. =)
AlexLococo 5 days ago
@AlexLococo Oh I'll be back...we have a plan to retire there eventually. Beautiful country and people...more tolerant and laid back than even Canadians.
Thanks for the discussion.
AtheistPowerlifter 5 days ago
Now, I'm not saying I hope each and every atheist dies, no, for I do not hate you, I'm just not happy with the idea that bad people can be forgiven without their complete punishment, but that's not my business, because I'm no God to judge.
AlexLococo 5 days ago
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@AlexLococo "I'm not saying I hope each and every atheist dies...I'm just not happy with the idea that bad people can be forgiven without their complete punishment".
So all atheists are "bad" people? By whose standards? And who "forgives"? I don't want to be 'forgiven'...the idea of scapegoating my mistakes onto a human being is vile. Only you ca atone for your own mistakes...you are accountable to those around you. There is no passing if off...this is childish in my opinion.
AtheistPowerlifter 5 days ago
I'm sorry to break this, but, if we are fair, I believe and have faith in all that I know (think; theology it's still not an exact science) God's thoughts are, and even then I don't agree with everything. E.g. Jesus came to earth to say that God is Love and Mercy, not Justice and Punishment (contrary to what both atheist and theists think religion preaches), however, I cannot say that I'm pleased that God is more merciful than just, even though I do believe him to be that way.
AlexLococo 5 days ago
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@AlexLococo You said "Jesus came to earth to say that God is Love and Mercy, not Justice and Punishment ".
Yet...Matthew 10:34 "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." A direct contradiction of his sermon on the mount. Then again, because he was just a man, jesus contradicts himself a few times. "pray in your clsets quietly" and later "go spread the word". For ex.
AtheistPowerlifter 5 days ago
@AlexLococo You also said "theology is not an exact science". Theology has nothing to do with science. There are no experiements and testing of hypothesis...there is just the study of ancient vague texts, and the thousands of opinions on them (hence the 30,000+ sects of christianity for example).
Also, yes, many scientists from long ago were theists...they had little choice. ALL people were of some religion...atheism was hardly a reasonable choice. Fortunately we know more now.
AtheistPowerlifter 5 days ago
@AtheistPowerlifter If theology isn't a science, sociology isn't either, for there is no experiments and testings that could go on a lab the same way that go in real life. Theology is a science because it encompasses from the study of the ancient texts to how it affects societies in their lives, their rites, everything that has to do with religion. It's social anthropology in it's core. Atheism has ben around ever since Socrates, so, no they do had choice.
AlexLococo 5 days ago
@AlexLococo Yes good point, there has always been atheism. But you must admit that many earlt scientists and thinkers could not easily be open with their doubts and still be taken seriously by their peers. I would propose that if they were here today, the majority would be atheists - due to our secular society in north america - it's much easier to express disbelief (somewhat)
AtheistPowerlifter 5 days ago
@AtheistPowerlifter I do agree with that and I do not support fellow religious people making us all sound like intolerant assholes. I myself as a both as a religious and science man, would be discriminated in those times because I don't believe in the explanation "because God says so" to our moral basis between other things that many religious people still use to this day, but it is unfair to generalize us all like that.
AlexLococo 5 days ago
@AlexLococo I see. Well I try not to generalize theists, but honestly most theists (muslims, hindus, christians) react the same way when my atheism comes up in the workplace etc - disdain, disgust, mistrust, and assumptions that I must be stupid. We are talking 90% of the time. I have actually lost some friends (christians) due to my lack of belief. It is hard not to generalize, as atheists are also generalized.
AtheistPowerlifter 5 days ago
@AlexLococo Sociology isn't really a hard science, although they do use the scientific method in some of their social experiments. it is simply the study of human social behaviour. Theology is the study of religion snad it's influences (so part sociology I guess).
Not trying to start a fight here either...I see what you are saying in your posts. Just trying to show a different viewpoint.
AtheistPowerlifter 5 days ago
@AlexLococo Now - and I am not trying to put words in your mouth - I am sure you will say to me what most theists say: I don't REALLY understand scripture...most christians don't act like true christians (which is vaguely described as "following jesus word")...we can't possibly understand god (the god works in mysterious ways gambit of intellectual laziness)...that the virgin birthmiracles/resurrection/empty tomb MUST mean that jesus was real etc.
Then we move to evolution and big bang.
AtheistPowerlifter 5 days ago
@AtheistPowerlifter Well, yes, but then again, the fellow that made credible the big bang theory was a catholic priest.
But I do understand one thing in the bible: somewhere, I don't remember exactly where, it says that the bible should be a guide and not a rule book, basically the only true rules us as christians (although I can only speak for catholicism) are the ten commandments.
Something not even many christians know about.
AlexLococo 5 days ago
@AlexLococo Hahaha yep, I am told that (the catholic priest big bang connection) whenever I have a discussion with my theist friends. there are many many smart theists. I just find it baffling that they turn off their science brain when in church (virgin birth, stars standing still in the sky, talking animals etc). Anyways.
AtheistPowerlifter 5 days ago
@AtheistPowerlifter Well, those are dogmas, unlike scientology, ours are not "scientific dogmas", so there is actually no negation (I mean, dogma = can't be explained, scientific = can be explained, wth?). It's, again, a matter of faith.
On the bible stuff, yes, I do agree it's bloody and violent and kinda messed up (or very messed up), but most, if not, all of those quotes are from the old testament, that's why there's a new testament, with Jesus everywhere saying "that's not what he meant".
AlexLococo 5 days ago
@AlexLococo Well, I agree about the difference between the new and old testament can be seen, though the NT isn't all sunshine and rainbows. Also, jesus did say that "every jot and tittle of old testament law must be fulfilled". And the 10 comandments are in the OT, so you can't have your cake and eat it too. But yes I get what you are saying.
AtheistPowerlifter 5 days ago
@AtheistPowerlifter No, of course not, the destruction of almost every man alive and the torture of another are not blissful readings, but Jesus did add another commandment, "love your brother the way I loved you", coming from a man from that time that hanged out with poor people, lepers, blinds, tax collectors and prostitutes means a lot, because it basically says to tolerate and love people despite the bible.
Also, I'm a secular humanist, so it's not the only reason why I'm tolerant. =)
AlexLococo 5 days ago
@AlexLococo
Jesus also said he came not to bring peace, but the sword, as is written in Matthew.
To set son upon father, brother upon brother and to let everyone who is not worthy of him be killed, etc etc.
Not everything Jesus said was good. People often forget that.
thedutchman01 5 days ago 16
@thedutchman01 so if he exists.. maybe not everything written about him is truth, how about that
byzmoPROPAGANDA 4 days ago
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@byzmoPROPAGANDA "so if he exists.. maybe not everything written about him is truth, how about that"
How then would you differentiate what is true and not in the bible?
And if this part isn't true, then why believe anything else?
thedutchman01 4 days ago
@thedutchman01 HAHAHA right... Religion is Dumb what all powerfull god needs your attention.. your selfish and ignorant.. and a follower
TheGooStick 3 days ago
@AlexLococo I have also heard the bible referred to in this way, though I think it is a horrible rule book...advocation of slavery and genocide, hell concept, segregation of peoples etc.
The 10 commandments are interesting. I believe that you yourself could write a better 10 commandments in five minutes...only a few even apply...onr equates women with chatel, 4 are narcissitic rules to "worship no other gods". Nothing about respecting children, animals...a poor moral guide. IMO.
AtheistPowerlifter 5 days ago
@AtheistPowerlifter In respect of the 10 commandments, since it's for christians, I don't think it is that narcissistic. If you have a son, how would you feel him calling another man "dad", instead of you? Same applies here. But it's not absolutely like that, "not praising other gods" is not only about gods, but about praising money, food, everything that could be a vice and turn your life around it, it then becomes more like your son saying "piss off, I have -insert vice here-".
AlexLococo 5 days ago
I think ur talking about cognative dissonance rightttt?T?T??T?T
OllieXWilliams 6 days ago
a christian neever wins against psykoligists
guyonfire87 6 days ago
Good stuff - a new angle on religious hatred. I've always felt that theists are profoundly threatened by science and rationality to the core of their being, and so they should be. This video does much to explain why in a simple, accessible manner. Isn't it interesting how they try to expose flaws in the logic of atheists or insist on absolute proof of evolution etc., these people who readily subscribe to water into wine, virgin births, walking on water, holy ghosts and the living dead?
EwolDJ 6 days ago
3:40 is win, well done. :) You could submit this (end at 4:58) to some video competition, it's just that good. It deserves better than youtube!
degelf1 6 days ago
BRAVO! i'm deffinately a "spiritual" person, i believe that my energy doesnt just dissapear and i believe in science and basic fact as well, religeon is brainwashing. In a way i feel more compelled to side with the athiest. Anyways amazing video i loved it, so true.
themousemaster 6 days ago
@themousemaster Hot damn, how do you always find such amazing videos. This video was mind-blowing. My jaw dropped halfway through when he talked about God being you. Its common sense, but i never thought of it. But do you understand the very last bit when you see his face? i didnt understand what he was saying. I'm too tired. Lol.
Bludhoundz8 6 days ago
@Bludhoundz8 Haha, i guess i like exploring. learning for me is fun, its what i do in my free time haha...i need a life. exactly i dont see why people dont get that, god is just your ego as humans we look for something or someone that relates to us and if we cant find it we basically create it in our own reality, atleast thats how i see it. i think i get the end bit, you cant reject something if its not clearly presented to you (just like he said), i'm bad at wording XD
themousemaster 6 days ago
@themousemaster Haha, its ok, i need a life too XD and thanks :) i think i get it now :P
Bludhoundz8 6 days ago
Great vid.
aHAZmatty 6 days ago
Science will always win over Religion. Always. :)
Killer27586 1 week ago 35
@Killer27586 Science does not has a fight with religion, and has never had one on people smart enough to handle both. I'm not saying you're stupid, I'm simply pointing out that there are many religious people that are, and simply reject (see what I did there?) science, while many of us simply accept both, because there isn't a real fight. The ones that do have a fight are people, but ideas and knowledge do not. Grigori Perelman and Isaac Newton both believe(d) in God, and are/were no fools.
AlexLococo 5 days ago
Amen... I meant sure, sure, SURE, sure...
BKOBatista 1 week ago
Atheist are also hated because they are an outgroup, and seen as worse than other religions. A different religion may not seem so threatening to a person, while atheism is seen as a direct threat.
darkangel2139 1 week ago
@darkangel2139 Atheists are hated because they call bullshit on all religions. It points out that not only does the emperor have no clothes but also the empire has no emperor. It makes the quibbling over theological details seem as silly as they in really are.
willbond 6 days ago
Dude, way to drop science. But...I'm not the only one who thinks you sounded a little like Christopher Walken, Am I?
AeonPhoenixZero 1 week ago
dvholston 1 week ago
Comment pending approval was well done.
dRevan64 1 week ago
How did /t/ become /ɵ/? Excellent video, but the mispronunciation is offputting.
Englansi 1 week ago
Amazing sir! Absolutely awesome description of how some religious people act. Tyler Durden is God- SO FUNNY!! And you sound a little like Christopher Walken which makes this like the coolest video ever.
20thlvlwiz 1 week ago
Cant believe i just now found this video. kudos sir.
TCmoru 1 week ago
@Judicial78 Nailed it right on the head for me. That's what I was going to say, I feel rejected sometimes and tend to have natural discord towards theists...
IanBoB7667 1 week ago
Doesn't this work both ways? Perhaps this is why atheists tend to be so aggressive and have hatred towards theists.
Judicial78 1 week ago
Have you ever seen the movie Magic, with Anthony Hopkins?
JesusDillinger 1 week ago
Awesome! Except Theresa is pretty hot. Although I am Atheist, I would not reject Theresa.
notnilccm 1 week ago
That was a really great video with flawless logic.Thanks a lot.
traluxi 1 week ago
Marvelous! Too many atheist try to explain this through mockery, but you sir, managed without. Being disrespectful doesn't get you nearly as far when it comes to enlightening a closed mind, as showing respect and understanding will. You are a gentleman, and a scholar.
TrymyrT 1 week ago 31
That is some of the best logic I've heard in a LONG time. I'll be stealing those arguments sir - thank you for your contribution!
TheMoralStasis 1 week ago
merde, that's disturbing. I know christians, jews, muslims, atheists, pagans, hidus and the occasional wichen and I realize, its not gods and demons who are evil. Its men
Vladstronsy 1 week ago
Woah, plot twist around 4:25 :D
qwsdcvist 1 week ago
How can you "reject" something that has no evidence for it, plenty of evidence against it, and from any rational and realistic standpoint, doesn't exist? I don't have to "reject" unicorns or bigfoot, I just have to be in touch with reality.
Viddaric 1 week ago
@Viddaric To be in touch with reality, you have to reject the absurd. It's how you actually get to reality. You can’t just declare, “I’m living in reality!” and then not reject the idiotic ideas that come your way. You DO reject them, whether you do it consciously or not.
politicoochie09 1 week ago in playlist More videos from DarkMatter2525
@Viddaric You don't get it dummy. They are promoting a reflection of self in an omnipotent role. Just like how you project your own traits on your pet dog (which isn't like you regardless) others project a reflection of themselves on to the very meaning and function of the universe. It's an easy trap to fall into.
IntronDepot1 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
@Delinexwow Coded information testifies if intelligence. Population geneticists have concluded that we are degenerating. Adaptation is programmed into the genome with genetic boundaries. You lack understanding!
Ramohog 1 week ago
My responce to this video is. Both sides shut the fuck up. Atheists stop acting like ur roman era christians. Cuz u havent the slightest clue about persecution. Especially in america. Theists stfu none of u are not mindful enough of God to b evangilists for God.
liodago 1 week ago
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I BELIEVE IN GOD BUT ALL THAT RELIGIOUS SHYT, I DONT. AND THE BIBLE I DO THINK IT STARTED OUT AS THE TRUTH BUT AS IT GOT PASSED DOWN, THE STORIES CHANGED, IT WAS MISTRANSLATED AND EVERYTHING. I DO BELIEVE A LIL BIT OF THE BIBLE IS THE TRUTH, THE BIBLE DOES HAVE SOME GOOD TEACHINGS. AGAIN I BELIEVE IN GOD BUT NOT HOW SOME PEOPLE PORTRAY GOD TO BE, I DO BELIEVE GOD IS LOVIN
UMANEDAKIDD19 1 week ago
I hate how this guy pretends atheists are all innocent victims. Bc in my case, b tht facebook. I am consistantly looked down upon by my peers. I understand som theists go extreme. But damn evn tho i agree partly with this video why do i feel STILL within the cursors of the a/theist fight. How bout both yall shutup.
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FrankieSayRelaxxx1 1 week ago
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@liodago He doesn't pretend atheists are "all innocent victims" he is generalising and speaking for the majority. You theists and your straw-man arguments lol.
FrankieSayRelaxxx1 1 week ago
this is one of the most deepest and meaningful videos you've done... and its awesome!
xNecroKey 1 week ago
As per Sam Harris's experiment you can find it listed at his name dot org, he notes the speed in which what we believe comes to mind.
He measures belief, disbelief and I dont know, and in that order they come to play.
Sam suggests that a reward system is somehow in play that dictates belief come in first, the reason I dont know is the slowest may be because of confusion or confabulation, not sure
A theists reward is 2 fold, go to heaven and not go to hell, so it would be a powerful reward system
debateyourfaith 1 week ago
As an Atheist I deny it.
The link isnt that the theist is god, it has to do with whats called empathy neurons or as V.S. Ramachandran likes to call them, Dhali Lama neurons
When a person youre watching hits their hand with a hammer, you jerk, why ?
The study shows shows that with chimps and monkeys they will try and stop another from making the same mistake that caused them pain, before the new victim actually gets zapped by the experiment
It is a projection of self, ego is another story
debateyourfaith 1 week ago
@RotaryLover87 Go and watch the video called 'Creationist fail again' on this same channel and it will tell you.
millyybabess 1 week ago
@RotaryLover87 Haha! your ignorance is hilarious! 'why is there no planet like ours in the galaxy?' where are you getting your information from?! I'll enlighten you, NASA's Kepler telescope surveys just a minuscule fraction of our galaxy, and already it has found over 1000 planets, 54 of them in the 'goldilocks' zone like us, and 5 of them earth sized. Now imagine how many of these earth like planets there would be in the whole galaxy; billions.
millyybabess 1 week ago
atheists are far from the most hated ppl
dEViN1887 1 week ago 12
@dEViN1887 Studies have shown they are the most disliked and least trusted minority in the whole of the USA and are viewed as the 'least american'. That includes homosexuals, Muslims, blacks etc
FrankieSayRelaxxx1 1 week ago
@FrankieSayRelaxxx1 Welllll thing is buddy, people cant really tell youre an atheist from just looking at you. Typically religion is something you only discuss with closer friends who are curious and probably won't shun you based on your response. Even upon inquiry, faith is a somewhat private thing so it's acceptable to not answer. So unless you run around telling everyone off about their faith cuz you like to argue, they wouldn't know. And in that case I'd hate you too!
dEViN1887 1 week ago
@dEViN1887 Be that as it may, it does not change the statistics. Most atheists don't do any of that anyway. In fact, most people I know are at least non-religious (I am not sure about atheist)and I have never known anybody to "run around telling everyone off about their faith".
FrankieSayRelaxxx1 1 week ago
@dEViN1887 So religion is a private thing so that is why Pat Robertson's arse is all over the TV. That is why when I lived miles from another house on a dirt road that Jahova's disterbed my privacy. Jesus came for the lost sheep of Israel. Only dum goyim fall for the ZioNazi god to fight their battles only to become chattel of the international bankster spawn. Futuristic Naturalism! Homo Sapiens Manifesto! NO ZIONAZI FINAL JUDGMENT! You are now free of original sin,hate,greed,war profiteering
wiscokiddd 1 week ago
@dEViN1887 Not according to recent research.
Shadowmil2 1 week ago
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@Shadowmil2 Welllll thing is buddy, people cant really tell youre an atheist from just looking at you. Typically religion is something you only discuss with closer friends who are curious and probably won't shun you based on your response. Even upon inquiry, faith is a somewhat private thing so it's acceptable to not answer. So unless you run around telling everyone off about their faith cuz you like to argue, they wouldn't know. And in that case I'd hate you too!
dEViN1887 1 week ago
@dEViN1887 They're close, though. :(
ellemondelegrande 1 week ago
@RotaryLover87 It's funny how you're insulting all atheists, when you yourself are acting like the typical arrogant religious person who won't accept any other point of view than their own.
millyybabess 1 week ago
@millyybabess It's funny how athiests tend to say that. That's how athiests believe also. lol Man, ya'll are repetitive, and rhetorical.
RotaryLover87 1 week ago
And "Gloria" for God lols, pure genius :p!
alphARegen 1 week ago
@kanyeairjordans, seriously, I know exactly what you're saying, and i hate when they beat around the bush and hide behind the rocks to avoid the truth.. It's disgusting how ignorance has a way of robbing people of their ability to think rationally. I believe that if anyone holds such a strong belief, then they should not be afraid of or offended by people who are simply trying to challenge their "potentially flawed" beliefs..And @coffeeisnecessary, you're black, so what?
alphARegen 1 week ago
I believe that people should respect others. Why "challenge their potentially flawed beliefs?" Why not leave them alone? And how do you know your views are "the truth"? And just a simple question, I want an honest answer. Why do you atheists always chase theists of the Christian faith yet largely ignore theists from other religions?
Justinian43 1 week ago
@Justinian43 Because Christianity is the religion most commonly encountered by atheists. There is nothing more to it.
FrankieSayRelaxxx1 1 week ago
@Justinian43 The reason why we don't just 'leave them alone' is because these beliefs are potentially harmful, and can also have a detrimental effect on those outside the religion. In many cases this has been demonstrated by the believers themselves, time and time again.
FrankieSayRelaxxx1 1 week ago
How are these beliefs potentially harmful? You are so vague. What have the believers demonstrated? Your first comment was a good honest response, this last comment makes no sense. You just don't leave us alone is because you dislike christianity and you don;t like the fact that atheists have always been a minority, plain and simple. I dislike atheism but I can tolerate atheists as long as they don't disrespect me..
Justinian43 1 week ago
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FrankieSayRelaxxx1 1 week ago
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@Justinian43 How are religious beliefs harmful? Think of these incidents which religion is a direct cause of or played a significant role in causing: 9/11 (Islam), London Bus bombings (Islam), The majority of terrorism today (Islam), The Spanish and Papal Inquisition (Christianity), teaching of pseudo-science such as 'intelligent design' in USA schools (Christianity), homophobia (Christianity, Judaism and Islam), prejudice towards and bullying of non believers (Christianity, Judaism and Islam)
FrankieSayRelaxxx1 1 week ago
@FrankieSayRelaxxx1 I believe in god and I don't see myself doing those things. Like the "Kingdom of Heaven" quote goes "I am not those men, I am Salahuddin" (Saladin) {replace Saladin with my name} Plain and simple. Your whole argument went downhill because I know plenty of nice religious people just like I know plenty of atheist assholes... boo-hoo!
Justinian43 1 week ago
@Justinian43 Ahh screw it. This comment deleting system (so i can correct mistakes) is crap. I can't be bothered to type it all out again.
FrankieSayRelaxxx1 1 week ago
@FrankieSayRelaxxx1 - you just copy your comment, delete post, paste commend and edit. lol.... not rocket science
es696 1 week ago
@es696 damn! I've been caught!
FrankieSayRelaxxx1 1 week ago
@FrankieSayRelaxxx1 - it's okay, i have a number for you to call. they will help you
es696 1 week ago
@es696 Yeh but for some reason it wouldn't let me delete some of them.
FrankieSayRelaxxx1 1 week ago
@FrankieSayRelaxxx1 - Did you know the Yukon Territory forms a large triangle on the northwest of the mainland of Canada?
es696 1 week ago
@es696 lol
FrankieSayRelaxxx1 1 week ago
@Justinian43 the many cases of people praying for their sick children instead of taking them to a hospital, and the children dying as a result of getting no medical care (There are recorded cases of Christians in the USA and UK doing this, but this happens among people with many different religious beliefs and is relatively commonplace among those who live in countries classed as LEDCs),...
FrankieSayRelaxxx1 1 week ago
@FrankieSayRelaxxx1 And I do not give a shit, you are so annoying you know. It's like going to a german and saying. Hey dude, being of german descent is bad! *listing everything from the germanic tribes that brought down the roman empire to hitler...* Just because there were some stupid people that did stupid things doesn't make religion bad because I can find plenty of heroes and legends that were religious and ruled their lands with justice and passion. Please Stop!
Justinian43 1 week ago
@Justinian43 politicians trying to get laws passed in the USA specifically endorsing Christianity (Christianity), the crusades (Christianity + Islam), the spreading of lies (mostly among Catholic majority countries in Africa) by the Pope that Condoms don’t help against/increase the incidence of HIV/AIDS,.. etc etc, the list goes on and on for I have many more examples.
FrankieSayRelaxxx1 1 week ago
@FrankieSayRelaxxx1 Will you ever shut up? You can thank this religious state commonly known as the Byzantine Empire that preserved classic western culture and left so much knowledge and scholars for the world to enjoy, especially the italians (renaissance) "Lost to the West" by Lard Brownworth... Read and shut up!
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