g-system stereo setup using 4 cable method PART 1

[davem04ify]

Is it possible to use just the delays and reverbs in the amp loop, and the rest of the effects in front of the amp?

[danyeo]

@davem04ify I've been trying to get that answer as well, so far it looks like a no-go.

[anathema009]

this video upsets me.

[Tubbyyy001]

I might just be misunderstanding your description in the video, but I'm wondering if it is possible to use the four cable method on two amps and a/b between the two amps. Basically using one amp for clean with the fx in the g system and the other amp for overdrive and the fx in the g system. Can I use the g system to a/b between the two amps while using the four cable method on both amps?

[audiopivot]

@Tubbyyy001 it is possible to do something similar. it will of course require a few more cables...in a nutshell you can use loop 4 to insert another preamp and you set up the g-system to switch between loop4 and insert loop. you will still only be using one amp's return so the power section and speaker of only one amp will be used, but the preamp of both will be switchable. here is a post between laird williams and i about the subject. go here:

[audiopivot]

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[danilo26972]

I think u should say there's no way to get no noise from 4 cables method.

or maybe the only one...

sell the unit!

very disappointed with noisy 1st stage....

no cables, levels, hum eliminator solutions....

the noise is always present.

from such an expansive piece of gear...

no way!

[matthewearl]

@danilo26972 actually there is a noise gate. i get absolutely no noise whatsoever. the key is to use BALANCED cables for you set up. i didnt mention this before and i apologise. i am creating an new updated video about this. it should be posted next week or so. let me know if that helps.

[danilo26972]

@matthewearl I hate Noise Gate and i think everybody should (if u care your tone...)

I use TRS balanced cables (premium quality ones). obviusly the noise is annoying with high gain channel! i would like to have the possibility to record one example... it's quite impossible to play at loud volume with such noise. absolutly no noise avoiding using 1st stage. could u please tell me your volumes settings? i mean input gain, loop volume, loop headroom... etc

Thanx

[audiopivot]

just so people arent confused, audiopivot is owned by matthewearl

[matthewearl]

@MOLYKU an m13 config with g system will be complicated because of the stereo post effects on both units. its hard to run them both in parallel. i am trying to figure out the best way to do this.

[81giorikas]

Man this is the trademark 60 not the 30. 12 inch speaker 60 watts etc.

[matthewearl]

@81giorikas yeah sorry i made a quick error on that. i noticed i said that but didnt want to re-edit the video :) thanks though for the insight.

[bdalchow]

Does the ethernet cable also power the floor unit? I cant see a powe supply or connection.

[matthewearl]

@bdalchow yeah the floor unit needs no power

[rottenroni]

thank fuck someone is talking sense!!!

great video thankyou.

[matthewearl]

@rottenroni thansk! hey man i got more coming. i wass working on the Avatar movie so i have been busy. im back now to help out

[laughingboy0068]

Great video, very pro, very informative.  Top notch stuff.

[matthewearl]

@laughingboy0068 thanks bud. suprised no one made fun of my hair haha

[guitfrank]

... but a drive (I use a few) in loop1 would be before the amp's input? what if I needed to put an external effect in loop 2 - would it also be pre?  ie: can you assign the placement of the loops, pre vs FX loop?

thanks for your help

[matthewearl]

@guitfrank yes a drive in loop 1 -4 will always be "pre" amp input. (as far as the 4 cable method is concerned). no you cannot change the loops to go "post" if you have a pedal that you want to run after the pre-amped signal (which is the same as the internal delays and reverbs of g-system) you would put them after the OUTPUT of the g-system BEFORE they go into the RETURN of your amp. hop that helps.

[orpheus06]

So u r going from ur guitar to...???

[matthewearl]

@orpheus06 guitar to g-system input.

[orpheus06]

ok but what about if I want to add a volume pedal to control my drive( distortion ) volume?

[matthewearl]

@orpheus06 you can. there are expression pedals you can buy. you can add up to 2

[matthewearl]

@orpheus06 your distortion will be an INSERT effect not a parallel effect so no, you cannot use a pedal to change the distortion volume on a stomp box. you cant change the distortion level on any distortion stomp box i know of. maybe im not getting your question.

[sus4add13]

I want the G to change the mark IV's channels as well! Can this be done?

[matthewearl]

@sus4add13 yes you can. the g-system has channel switching capabilities for up 2 amp heads

[vhalen101]

great video instruction on the G. I bought mine a few weeks ago and I am incorporating it into a live rig that I am setting up. Although I am not using stereo. I am connecting mine to a Mesa Triple Recto using 4 cable method as shown. Nicely done. I use the TC forums for a lot of my questions and the guys on there are very helpful as well....which I am guessing you have as well. :)

[matthewearl]

@vhalen101 yeah man, couldnt have done it without a handful of guys there. send me pics of your rig :)

[tragictheory]

great video thanks!

[matthewearl]

@tragictheory thanks bro!

[darrenw5094]

This is the only vid on this planet, that you can find out how to connect the G-System to a guitar amp properly. Not even the official TC Electronics website shows you this and the manual is not very totally helpfull either. I did figure it out before i saw this today, but anyway, there it is. The only other thing, is to set the loop to lock in the global settings.

[matthewearl]

@darrenw5094 dude, you made my day. thanks for the compliments. i got more coming up.

[matthewearl]

man o man. i was to have a second video for this. i apologize for not having it up yet. i have been working on a new film...i will for sure this week work on part 2. thanks for watching everyone.

[Runefraribe]

Really good sounds. Is there any change that you could reveal your settings on the g-system. I have one, and would like to copy your sounds.

[ecapainkiller]

dude, I'm waiting for the second part, concentrate on conections, specialy, if you can show some pictures of rack unit ant the floor unit, allso, changing the chanels on the amp with the g system, how do you do it?

[matthewearl]

@ecapainkiller i am doing that now. i know its been a while, but im back in the game. i been working on the avatar movie.

[JuicyOverdrive]

Gotta love the Mark IV. I love mine.

[matthewearl]

@JuicyOverdrive its sick. wayy too sexy.

[amarr1]

what if you don't have an effects loop on your amplifier?

[matthewearl]

@amarr1 yeah your kinda stuck. only option you have is guitar -> g-system -> amp. like other pedal boards.

[deathwalker23]

he he he, u sound like a programed computer giving instructions at 3:30, no offense, that was a great video by the way.

[matthewearl]

@deathwalker23 hahah too funny

[RobMMaldo]

WOW, did you read that off the manuel? that was really informative, you should do instructional videos for t.c. electronics. i dont have a gsystem but now i know how to use it properly lol