If there was ever a better romance option other than Merril for me, It would be Mr. Sebastian Vael...That sexi beast :p I think I have a thing for Prince's xD Bastard or no.
i always wonder, lel lived in Lothering as did Hawkes whole family, and they never met??? Though it would have been fun to put isabela, Lel and Zev al together in one room...
@Arrakeen10191 Now I'm picturing a "party" with all of the DA bi-sexual romance options... and Allistair, Morrigan, and Sebastian standing outside wondering why they weren't invited. (Sebastian wouldn't be invited anyway, he won't let anyone between his legs except Andraste's face.
Well, that ruined a perfectly good climactic situation. She still doesn't look like her sacred ashes trailer self, but it's closer and I think I like this model a bit better than in Origins. I still laugh when Alister calls her hot (just because of how awkward the situation was, NOT because Alister was wrong about it).
Yeah. My Warden romanced her. She would say that he (canon, maybe?) is still very dear to her. But I'm guessing she ultimately chose the chantry over the Warden. Manipulative Bard <.<
Ugh, I know, the faces got so screwed up! Though, I can find humor in thinking that because it's Varic telling the story, poor Zev and Alistair are not described to their fullest while the women are still beautiful. :)
*Sigh* I used to love Leliana especially because her views about the Maker seemed to be almost the complete opposite of the Chantry's teachings (she didn't believe the Maker had abandoned his children, etc.). But now she's the right hand of the Divine... And the way she speaks about the Circle of Magi sounds like she agrees with the Chantry locking up mages... Arrrg... I feel like I've just lost my best friend! Most disappointing cameo EVER.
She's still part of the Chantry, though. At the heart of its teachings is a prejudice against mages - it was formed as a rebellion against the Imperium after all. Even for all her progressivism, this scene just represents that there are some things being a lay sister will never shake off, and a dislike or suspicion of mages is one of them.
@Falor5151 I know... It's just I guess I expected a bit more from her. She seemed much more open-minded in DAO. For example, I have many friends who consider themselves Christians, although they are completely at odds with certain "values" or "rules" taught by their religion. For example, they don't think having sex before marriage is wrong, and they are completely in favor of gay marriage (they see all forms of love as being equal). I'd have expected Leliana to be a little more like that.
ha so basically all of DA is fucked up since Bioware never took the time to fix any of their bugs and still got countless cash from many of us (dlc) even thou some don't ever matter... Bioware is basically done, its redemption or a huge middle finger "fuck you" to them with ME3...
If you have met Zevran first (I think) Hawke adds a comment: Are we going to meet someone who haven't bedded? Or something like that. I don't remember the exact words :)
She didn't break up so to speak but if you read the epilogue, it says that the Warden vanished after sometime, even if the player didn't play Witch hunt.
As for the faces, keep in mind, this is like 7-10 years after Origins at that point. Alistair has gotten a little chubby and older as king and well Zev does look a bit weird. I thought Leliana is cute in this one.
I fucking hated Leliana. The Chantry just INSTIGATED murder and she acts like it's no big fucking deal. The arrogance is disgusting. I wanted to kill her right here. She's such a fucking bitch and they totally ruined her Origins character in this scene. What happened to not agreeing with the Chantry's ideals? She's just a tool and a murderer in this scene.
@MagatsutheCalamity She was always a plant. Notice how everyone gives tokens of their love but Leliana in DA:O? Or the Seeker's Circle she wears? Or the fact that she gives retarded advice until you strip away her veneer-- and then she's a stone cold bitch? She was there in Fereldan to monitor something for the Divine-- given that she's linked with Alistair in the Darkspawn Chronicles I imagine she was supposed to watch that plot with Cailan come to fruition.
@iamjason Keep in mind, at the end of Dragon Age Origins and Awakening, it says the hero vanished without a trace. Playing Witch Hunt, players can speculate that they took Morrigan's offer to go through the Eluvian for either the baby or her but either way, the epilogue states that the hero is missing.
@iamjason No. From what I understand, their respective duties to the Divine and the Wardens took them to different parts of the continent. They were suppose to meet up but again their duties kept them apart. After the Warden finishes up in Amaranthine he travels to Leliana.
*potential spoilers*
But she mentions here to the Champion that she hasn't seen him in some years. This implies that the Warden disappears before he could reach her.
@iamjason Nope, it's a bug. IF you import a savegame from DA:O's Add-ons (in my case Witchhunt) you'll get the same answer ( ...many years ago), even though I romanced her. If you just take a savegame from DA:O you'll get the "dear to her heart" answer. It's because the DA2 checks the approval ratings from the savegame you choose and since Leliana doesn't appear in neither Witchhunt nor Awakening...you get her telling Hawke that she hasn't seen him/her for many years...
@HazardousSanity no you do can transport it over from Awakening, the romance flags are not active in ANY other dlc, except for Morrigan in Witch Hunt.
@HazardousSanity if you romanced her at the end of origins, and import to awakening, you get a letter from her saying she can't join you at the keep. and it seems pretty recent.
@iamjason If you import a game form Awakening or Witch Hunt, the romance flags won't check correctly. So if you load ONLY from Origins, it should work. I don't know for sure since I played through Origins, Awakening and Witch Hunt with the same Warden.
I know Zevran was bugged regarding the relationship with the Warden. Maybe Lelliana was supposed to say something about still spending time with the Warden or something?
@iamjason Here, on mine, she mentioned she still cares about the Warden. She was also present at the very end, again mentioning the Warden. My impression is that the Warden disappeared and she is assisting with the Champion's case (and working as an agent) in hopes of finding him(or her).
@iamjason Actually, I imported a play through which have me romancing her at the end of the game, and the dialog was a little different than what she just said.
I think there is a bug in this.I have romance with her and when i speaked to her she said The Warden is dear to her.Not this.I think it is because I have not finished witch hunt.
@moarinternets Zevran was fine. Had to make him different anyway seeing as they retconned the elves in general. It as a fine reskin. Alister wasn't THAT bad...I mean he is supposed to be older in this.
@moarinternets Cullen makes me giggle still. He's still a bashful little boy. The first time I played origins I was a mage and he was in love with me but got all embarrassed when I asked him to go to bed with me lol.
@moarinternets u have to realize that the game progresses in years, Zeveran cameos almost a decade or so in act 3, so that makes sense, also Alistair, Lillieana cameos fairly early, so her i can understand
@moarinternets well, i dont see a big change on alistair besides his slight change in the tint of hair, and, nah your right, zev was hit by an ugly hammer, also, if sten from origins didnt have horns, i wonder how its changed with him....
@TwilightSakura28 They changed all the elves' appearances, Morrigan hasn't shown up yet, and Alistair probably put on some weight now that he isn't roaming Fereldan killing Darkspawn.
Did you have to romance leliana to get that?
sitho787 5 months ago
how do you activate this quest
mrdeadpoolthemerc6 5 months ago
@mrdeadpoolthemerc6 exile prince DLC
nagatofan123 1 month ago
do you always get this response? Or does leliana have to go "below deck" with her and the warden?
CWX07 5 months ago
how old is Leliana in this?
Theuziguy 6 months ago
@Theuziguy early 30's i think
gameguy20100 5 months ago
@Theuziguy um i'll say 20
nagatofan123 1 month ago
@nagatofan123 Well she's probably like 25 in Origins and this is in Act 3 of DA2 which is 7 years later...
XelestialDragon 2 weeks ago
if u romanced her then that will b the response link:
/watch?v=ggdWxalWoeU&feature=related
TheSab1 6 months ago
Maaan I romanced her in DAO and what do I get?
Knew him many years ago?
Cheburashka207 6 months ago
Damn, I regret not banging Isabela in Origins.
taitai907 7 months ago
If there was ever a better romance option other than Merril for me, It would be Mr. Sebastian Vael...That sexi beast :p I think I have a thing for Prince's xD Bastard or no.
animatorZee 7 months ago
Does this scene change if you had an unharden leliana and so missed out on the smexxy 3some
2yoyos1 7 months ago
Poor Hawke. Everyone they meet has had sex with Isabella at one point or another.
theoneandonlyhaley 8 months ago 12
how did you get these scene?
undeadmanwalking 8 months ago 3
@undeadmanwalking its a dlc, i think from the one with the prince that in the party (i forgot hes name)
Kitty2552 7 months ago
@Kitty2552 Sebastian Vael :) mmhh hes yummy >.<
WoWgirrl 7 months ago
@undeadmanwalking DLC the uhm.... The Exiled Prince
WoWgirrl 7 months ago
i always wonder, lel lived in Lothering as did Hawkes whole family, and they never met??? Though it would have been fun to put isabela, Lel and Zev al together in one room...
Arrakeen10191 8 months ago
@Arrakeen10191 actually hawke's sister, Bethany, mentions a certain Leliana, and the fact that she will miss hearing her songs.
eusouocarameuirmao 7 months ago
@Arrakeen10191 Now I'm picturing a "party" with all of the DA bi-sexual romance options... and Allistair, Morrigan, and Sebastian standing outside wondering why they weren't invited. (Sebastian wouldn't be invited anyway, he won't let anyone between his legs except Andraste's face.
xxjong1991xx 7 months ago 5
Well, that ruined a perfectly good climactic situation. She still doesn't look like her sacred ashes trailer self, but it's closer and I think I like this model a bit better than in Origins. I still laugh when Alister calls her hot (just because of how awkward the situation was, NOT because Alister was wrong about it).
ElectromagNick 8 months ago
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ElectromagNick 8 months ago
hey wtf? i never met her until the end of the game what quest is this????????plz answer
Dzioniis 8 months ago
@Dzioniis This is from the Sebastian Vael DLC
gorboy 8 months ago
@gorboy Thank's a lot
Dzioniis 8 months ago
where did you see Leliana at ? I never saw her until the end of the game.
Fayt262 8 months ago
tell me does your character have some mods on her?
Asderuki 9 months ago
Yeah. My Warden romanced her. She would say that he (canon, maybe?) is still very dear to her. But I'm guessing she ultimately chose the chantry over the Warden. Manipulative Bard <.<
Metamain03 9 months ago
@Metamain03 no u need to beat the game then u will understand why she went back to the chantry
dejonjones20 8 months ago
Leliana is still adorable when embarrassed.
Linkforlife199 9 months ago
Alistair looks like a dog now.
fishNguitars 10 months ago
@fishNguitars
You mean, as in, a Mabari ^_^?
megadeath45 10 months ago
wait wait WAIT!!
what if you killed her in origins? its possible if you take her on the urn of ashes quest and put the blood in the ashes
Slodogk 10 months ago
@Slodogk Leliana survives no matter what you did with her in Origins.
00462 10 months ago
Leliana from origins aww how i missed her lol
HAJAMAPOO123 10 months ago
how do you find her.. what misson
Emilyers14 10 months ago
@Emilyers14
Faith.
megadeath45 10 months ago
WHY DIDNT BIOWARE MAKE LEILANA A FOLLOWER IM PISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Formypeople68 10 months ago
if you have Merrill in your party she says 'oh i like singing, were you in a choir together ?' O.o
zuzazla 10 months ago 60
Ugh, I know, the faces got so screwed up! Though, I can find humor in thinking that because it's Varic telling the story, poor Zev and Alistair are not described to their fullest while the women are still beautiful. :)
hinomikaeru 10 months ago
After Isabella talks to Leliana, Sebastion should say: "I'll be in my bunk." After the cutscene ends he's missing from the party.
ArosElric 10 months ago
@ArosElric And then, perhaps if Merill is present she might make a follow-up comment like "Why would you do that? It isn't even Night-time".
infernai 10 months ago
i guess varric would like to know how isabela maked leliana sing, it would be a "great story"
jocke706 10 months ago
If you have Varric in the party during this, he will ask Isabella something like: "Is there someone in Ferelden you havent slept with?"
Kortikosteroid 10 months ago
*Sigh* I used to love Leliana especially because her views about the Maker seemed to be almost the complete opposite of the Chantry's teachings (she didn't believe the Maker had abandoned his children, etc.). But now she's the right hand of the Divine... And the way she speaks about the Circle of Magi sounds like she agrees with the Chantry locking up mages... Arrrg... I feel like I've just lost my best friend! Most disappointing cameo EVER.
TheLostGirl21 10 months ago
@TheLostGirl21
She's still part of the Chantry, though. At the heart of its teachings is a prejudice against mages - it was formed as a rebellion against the Imperium after all. Even for all her progressivism, this scene just represents that there are some things being a lay sister will never shake off, and a dislike or suspicion of mages is one of them.
Falor5151 10 months ago
@Falor5151 I know... It's just I guess I expected a bit more from her. She seemed much more open-minded in DAO. For example, I have many friends who consider themselves Christians, although they are completely at odds with certain "values" or "rules" taught by their religion. For example, they don't think having sex before marriage is wrong, and they are completely in favor of gay marriage (they see all forms of love as being equal). I'd have expected Leliana to be a little more like that.
TheLostGirl21 10 months ago
@Falor5151 i was a mage when i romanced her
RYARH 10 months ago
ha so basically all of DA is fucked up since Bioware never took the time to fix any of their bugs and still got countless cash from many of us (dlc) even thou some don't ever matter... Bioware is basically done, its redemption or a huge middle finger "fuck you" to them with ME3...
AzurezXol 11 months ago
Oh yay, looks like I'll have newer deeper reasons for hating Lelliana.
EccentricSage 11 months ago
Red hair blue eyes = win
topografer 11 months ago
If you have met Zevran first (I think) Hawke adds a comment: Are we going to meet someone who haven't bedded? Or something like that. I don't remember the exact words :)
Nailex 11 months ago
Wasn't Leliana more of an archer?
SpiritDreamsInside 11 months ago
@SpiritDreamsInside well she had us all fooled with a nickname like "Princess Stabbity"
havoc905 11 months ago 2
@SpiritDreamsInside Leliana was good with both duel swords OR archery.
white0nerdy 10 months ago
Shes hotter now
MirkyBlueIconoclast 11 months ago
Hey! What the heck? She looks BETTER here than she did in Origins; while everyone else looked like crap? Heh, interesting indeed.
Anon0240 11 months ago
She didn't break up so to speak but if you read the epilogue, it says that the Warden vanished after sometime, even if the player didn't play Witch hunt.
As for the faces, keep in mind, this is like 7-10 years after Origins at that point. Alistair has gotten a little chubby and older as king and well Zev does look a bit weird. I thought Leliana is cute in this one.
SelejX 11 months ago
WTF!!!
Zebran,Leliana...damn pirate xD
tarja82 11 months ago
I hate that she doesn't stay dead after I killed her in the Temple of Ashes <.<
BadBi92 11 months ago
@johnshepardable it's the one from the exiled prince dlc in the third act
TheSandwich007 11 months ago
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theskyisfaling 11 months ago
Another thing, in the playthrough I imported, I didn't even have her join my party, which means she's also a two-faced liar in some playthroughs.
MagatsutheCalamity 11 months ago
I fucking hated Leliana. The Chantry just INSTIGATED murder and she acts like it's no big fucking deal. The arrogance is disgusting. I wanted to kill her right here. She's such a fucking bitch and they totally ruined her Origins character in this scene. What happened to not agreeing with the Chantry's ideals? She's just a tool and a murderer in this scene.
MagatsutheCalamity 11 months ago
@MagatsutheCalamity She was always a plant. Notice how everyone gives tokens of their love but Leliana in DA:O? Or the Seeker's Circle she wears? Or the fact that she gives retarded advice until you strip away her veneer-- and then she's a stone cold bitch? She was there in Fereldan to monitor something for the Divine-- given that she's linked with Alistair in the Darkspawn Chronicles I imagine she was supposed to watch that plot with Cailan come to fruition.
Xebelan 9 months ago
@Xebelan ...Man, you just made me wanna kill her even more. xD
MagatsutheCalamity 9 months ago
If you have Varic in your party he says, "is there anyone in Felreden you havent slept with."
shnellehope 11 months ago
Shame you didn't have varric (or was it aveline?) with you. They make a comment after Isabela recognises her.
"By the stone/maker, is there anyone you HAVEN'T slept with?"
bennyboy274 11 months ago
What quest is this?
GalacticCompound 11 months ago
@GalacticCompound It's from the exiled prince dlc
Kronaras13 11 months ago
I was wondering if having an orgy in Origins would be retconned! lol thanks for posting this.
backseatxbroadcast 11 months ago
If you killed Leliana or left her at Lothering in Origins, will sister nightingale be someone else?
theREALChadsexinton 11 months ago
so she has to broke up with Warden no matter what?
iamjason 11 months ago 2
@iamjason I'm not sure. I haven't imported a play through where my PC was still romancing her at the end of the game.
moarinternets 11 months ago
@moarinternets its the Witch Hunt DLC that kind of bugged the safe
kevynspeed 10 months ago
@moarinternets she's hunting for the warden after he/ she went missing (guessing from my game)
harsteu 7 months ago
@iamjason If you romanced Leliana they are implied to be together but separate.
ChaoticRipper 11 months ago
@iamjason Keep in mind, at the end of Dragon Age Origins and Awakening, it says the hero vanished without a trace. Playing Witch Hunt, players can speculate that they took Morrigan's offer to go through the Eluvian for either the baby or her but either way, the epilogue states that the hero is missing.
SelejX 11 months ago
@iamjason Well... she DOES say that tha warden is "dear to her heart" so probably not I guess.
MrJustinArt 11 months ago
@iamjason No. From what I understand, their respective duties to the Divine and the Wardens took them to different parts of the continent. They were suppose to meet up but again their duties kept them apart. After the Warden finishes up in Amaranthine he travels to Leliana.
*potential spoilers*
But she mentions here to the Champion that she hasn't seen him in some years. This implies that the Warden disappears before he could reach her.
eternalfighter 11 months ago
@iamjason Nope, it's a bug. IF you import a savegame from DA:O's Add-ons (in my case Witchhunt) you'll get the same answer ( ...many years ago), even though I romanced her. If you just take a savegame from DA:O you'll get the "dear to her heart" answer. It's because the DA2 checks the approval ratings from the savegame you choose and since Leliana doesn't appear in neither Witchhunt nor Awakening...you get her telling Hawke that she hasn't seen him/her for many years...
HazardousSanity 11 months ago 13
@HazardousSanity no you do can transport it over from Awakening, the romance flags are not active in ANY other dlc, except for Morrigan in Witch Hunt.
WillyWallace100 11 months ago
@WillyWallace100
Oh alright. My bad. Thanks for clearing that one up ^^
HazardousSanity 11 months ago
@HazardousSanity i'm pissed about that!
dirtbikebebop 11 months ago
@HazardousSanity if you romanced her at the end of origins, and import to awakening, you get a letter from her saying she can't join you at the keep. and it seems pretty recent.
RYARH 10 months ago
@HazardousSanity is there a diffrence in the game itself if you import from DA:O or from the add ons? like with quests, dialouge etc...?
MrTawnyMan 9 months ago
@iamjason According to the bioware forums, it seems so.
bztang 11 months ago
@iamjason If you import a game form Awakening or Witch Hunt, the romance flags won't check correctly. So if you load ONLY from Origins, it should work. I don't know for sure since I played through Origins, Awakening and Witch Hunt with the same Warden.
DeadPoolMK 11 months ago
@iamjason
I know Zevran was bugged regarding the relationship with the Warden. Maybe Lelliana was supposed to say something about still spending time with the Warden or something?
EccentricSage 11 months ago
@iamjason Here, on mine, she mentioned she still cares about the Warden. She was also present at the very end, again mentioning the Warden. My impression is that the Warden disappeared and she is assisting with the Champion's case (and working as an agent) in hopes of finding him(or her).
ConfusedandFrustated 10 months ago
@iamjason Don't quit school.
Viro5050 10 months ago
@Viro5050 Why, cause public schools are so "awsome"?
MRKetter81 10 months ago
@iamjason Actually, I imported a play through which have me romancing her at the end of the game, and the dialog was a little different than what she just said.
leech2008 9 months ago
@iamjason yep. If they are still together she will say "He/She is dear to my heart," Instead of talking about the songs she wrote
AncientAncestor 8 months ago
@iamjason the warden leaves and you find out she's looking for him
TheAshleigh1994 7 months ago
I think there is a bug in this.I have romance with her and when i speaked to her she said The Warden is dear to her.Not this.I think it is because I have not finished witch hunt.
Radim59 11 months ago
Lol @ Leliana, trying to look all that cool, only to have Isabela embarrassing her in front of the others xD
ShadowEmpress 11 months ago
How did you find Leliana? I only saw her briefly at the end of the game :(
AssassinIndigo 11 months ago
@AssassinIndigo This is part of the Sebastian DLC companion quests.
TimeStamp96 11 months ago
And why didn't Bioware ruin HER face too? ._.
TwilightSakura28 11 months ago 17
@TwilightSakura28 I think Varric might have a soft spot for her. Heh. But yeah I agree. Zev and Alistair look so weird. Cullen is still cute tho.
moarinternets 11 months ago 51
@moarinternets I must agree with you on that, I think they actually improved the way he looked, that mole-ish kind of thing is gone, I believe.
TwilightSakura28 11 months ago
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@moarinternets Zevran was fine. Had to make him different anyway seeing as they retconned the elves in general. It as a fine reskin. Alister wasn't THAT bad...I mean he is supposed to be older in this.
melchCody 11 months ago
@moarinternets I thought they always looked weird, especially Zev.
allankles 11 months ago
@moarinternets Cullen makes me giggle still. He's still a bashful little boy. The first time I played origins I was a mage and he was in love with me but got all embarrassed when I asked him to go to bed with me lol.
LilPorcelynDoll 11 months ago
@moarinternets Yeah!! he should be romanceable...
jimenawera 11 months ago
@moarinternets u have to realize that the game progresses in years, Zeveran cameos almost a decade or so in act 3, so that makes sense, also Alistair, Lillieana cameos fairly early, so her i can understand
speeddemon847 11 months ago
@moarinternets well, i dont see a big change on alistair besides his slight change in the tint of hair, and, nah your right, zev was hit by an ugly hammer, also, if sten from origins didnt have horns, i wonder how its changed with him....
Jimmyboy679 10 months ago
@moarinternets oh yes Cullen still looks soo cute they didnt change his face much :)
DraconicMorphine 9 months ago
@TwilightSakura28 They changed all the elves' appearances, Morrigan hasn't shown up yet, and Alistair probably put on some weight now that he isn't roaming Fereldan killing Darkspawn.
GSSAGE7 10 months ago
@TwilightSakura28
Leliana will always be my girl from 1 >< (Aside from Isabela) If they ruined her too.... Bioware's HQ woulda burned......
NinNinPanda 8 months ago
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@TwilightSakura28
Leliana will always be my girl from 1 >< (Aside from Isabela) If they ruined her too.... Bioware's HQ woulda burned......
NinNinPanda 8 months ago
Haha! I was hoping someone would post this.
theREALChadsexinton 11 months ago