Christian Religion Lie #2: Sinner Saved By Grace

[BlacHaze2]

This video is pretty cute, but you are wrong my friend. By what you are saying it will be kinda hard to brush away Ephesians 2:5 and Ephesians 2:8. Oh, and by the way, Paul also said some interesting things in Romans 7:19-20 you might wanna look up for yourself.

[rovingdesertfox]

Want to finally learn about the religion you have been teaching for years?

Check out AJ Miller on YouTube; he'll tell you all about the truth. All you are doing here and all you can ever do is quote the book, which has questionable origins. You cannot guarantee that the bible has not been tampered with ... and to put faith in a book that has been at risk of being altered is ridiculous. Putting faith in

the whole story of christianity as presented in churches is highly risky for your soul.

[noopklu]

So is it wrong that I was born a christian? Even though I don't care about religion at all

[polopowers1]

That is correct we are no longer sinners by nature. My flesh that may sin is not who I am by nature. Amen

[Pfsif]

Most church people are not born anew so please stay there and play christian. If you were rescued from sin and given a new heart, get out of that beast called church.

[0WarXHawk0]

And thank you for avoiding the question I posed to you. Enjoy your "Tree of Knowledge." And have a nice life, since I am already having a good life.

[0WarXHawk0]

How can anyone in their right mind believe that WE are born into some "sinful nature" based upon the actions of an alleged ancestor written in a book?

A book where also a Virgin random gives birth, Moses has a conversation with a burning plant, there's a talking snake, Methuselah lived over 900 years, 2 guys we raised from the dead (Jesus, Lazarus) and Elijah flies into the sky on a chariot of fire....

REALLY? Grown ADULTS believe this nonsense? How pathetically small their minds must be.

[liteovershadows]

@0WarXHawk0 please be considerate before you spit your venom at us. I have every right to believe what pleases my heart.

[0WarXHawk0]

@liteovershadows And i have every right to challenge your beliefs, as you do mine.

As an American citizen i am obligated to speak my mind on things that damage society, divide cultures and prohibit progress to our great nation.

What you believe is your choice and i personally do not have an issue with you as a person but moreover the system of religion.

I have every right to both state my opinions as do you and if you disagree with my right to disagree then you have just proved my point.

[liteovershadows]

@0WarXHawk0 you speak like Christians are some sort of threat to the world. It is precisely because religion has crept into the early churches up until present day, that we see such corruption, hypocrisy, irrationality, division, extremity and most importantly...Legalism in Christians!!! all which are works of the flesh. Christians don't represent Jesus & what he came to bring, but rather Jesus came to be our representative. I understand you concern. Christianity was not meant to be a religion

[0WarXHawk0]

@liteovershadows If you truly believe that a man who was crucified rose from the dead, his virgin mother giving birth to this man, Moses talking to a burning bush and claiming it was god, Jonah living inside a fish for 3 days because he was swallowed for NOT going to Nineveh etc. Then I honestly don't know what there is to say anymore.

It's hard for me to fathom why anyone would believe in such nonsense even though it none of it is plausible.

[liteovershadows]

@0WarXHawk0 it truly is not plausible when you see it dissected as you have dissected it. Does the picture in a jigsaw puzzle make sense if you only look at each individual piece? or do you have to put all the pieces together so you can see the picture?

the question is, do you want to see the picture? or do you want to question each piece to see how it fits?

each piece fits, but rationality can hinder the sight.

You have made up your mind and i cant change it.

[0WarXHawk0]

@liteovershadows Actually I was pointing out specific examples of what the Bible claims is truth but really isn't. Obviously there is more to the Bible then those I have mentioned (obviously)

"the question is, do you want to see the picture? or do you want to question each piece to see how it fits?"

"You have made up your mind and i cant change it."

Yes I have made up my mind (obviously you moron) and if you KNOW I have made up my mind why would you continue to hound me off of one comment?

[liteovershadows]

@0WarXHawk0 "(obviously you moron)" well thank you for your loving words.

A tree is known by its fruit and you are a prime example of that. Thank you for being the display of what happens when someone lives and eats from the Tree of knowledge of good and evil.

"knowledge puffs up. Love edifies." 1 Cor. 8:1

[zeph317]

"No regrets" - can't say anything more foolish than that - proud in your ignorance! What a sad state such people are in! So "living life to the full" means arguing with those of us who say otherwise? Interesting, dumb, but interesting ;-)

[x1scrasher]

religoun is a mind controll game its fake dont belive it ur wasteing ur time ur wasteing ur life ur wasteing fun ur wasteing everything

[PEDROCLASSIC]

@x1scrasher if you think christianity is fake and false then it's good.you've proven your self right. you got nothing to lose.......... not yet. but what if you're wrong?

[x1scrasher]

@PEDROCLASSIC then if im wrong im wrong but i will die knowing iv lived my life at its fullest and i will have no regrets...

[PhilpKeith]

grande parlapie que este homem tem.

[JustinOsbore]

Yea that's true thank you...

1 John 1:8, 2:1 "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us....my little children, these things I write to you, that you sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous..."

[storypeddler]

Yes, I am now a new creature, but only because Jesus redeemed me from sin and death. Paul the Apostle stated clearly that he was a sinner saved by the grace of God. When he said it, he had already been a Believer for many years, and he knew exactly what he was saying. No, God doesn't look on me any longer as a sinner because He sees me through the blood of Jesus, but that righteousness is His, not my own. I am no longer lost, and I now have eternal life because I am a sinner SAVED BY GRACE.

[mdv25]

It sounds like you don't know that at salvation your old spirit died (Colossians 3:3, Romans 6:6, etc.) You gained a new spirit---God doesn't just see you as righteous---because He gave you a new spirit, you ARE righteous, literally righteous. Paul says more about our present day identity as being righteous than anyone else. You WERE a sinner saved by grace, but are NOW a saint under grace. Steve's video is right on the money!

[daniellelove]

Amen! I Agree!

[wvtbon]

It seems as if you make an error at 2:28 when you say that the truth of the Bible is that a sinner is a saint. I guess you meant to say that a christian is a saint.

[tulstem]

Thanks steve for this blessing. Quick correction from common error:

"... that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief." I Tim. 1:15

chief=prōtos=

1) first in time or place

a) in any succession of things or persons

2) first in rank

3) first, at the first

Paul is actually saying:

"... that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am the first in time and place."

Paul was the 'first' of sinners to receive and Jesus' redemption, grace and revelation.

[danthewightman]

What is a Christain ? Is a christain one who lives in what's considered a "Christian Nation"? Are all cathlic prests saints? To me one is a "Christian" who understands and confessing that they are on their way to Hell, and are a sinner and could by no why's or means gain access to heavn or the heavenly father ACCEPT by the washing way of our sins an attonement paid by a perfect sacrifice paid in blood, Yes we are sinners on our way to eternal death accept of the GRACE OF GOD by HIS SONs blood.

[urielavalos]

Awesome video. My only concern is that you should also explain that while we are saved from a LIFE of sin, being human we will still sin (1 John 1:8). That's usually the point of confusion -- on the one hand, we use 1Jo1:8 to excuse a life of sin. On the other, we forget 1Jo1:8 and vainly try to follow after perfectionism (what we find is legalism and denial of sin).