Rescue 911-Episode 111 "Double Electrocution" (Part 2 of 2)

[rubbing2001]

Thank god for volunteers!

[melodie973]

@4inches4u nazi!!!!!!

[melodie973]

@4inches4u oh yeah FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Vook]

I hope karma's been good to David, because he did a great thing. I'd love to know how he's doing today.

[Paramedic18791]

I am an Electrotechnical trained person from germany.

The pole had to be made dead and grounded so they also have had to send a technical rescue unit or a qualified person from the power company so where has that emergency specialist been?

[eric442]

How is David doing today? Does anybody know! I remember watching this on FAM! I wonder if David was able to survive! If so, he may suffered some damage due to the electrocution! His physcial therapy was at the most grueling!

[hotzelj]

The EMS, Fire, and Police should NEVER EVER have crossed those downed lines. Personally, I am starting my EMS career and worked on utility poles and I will NEVER EVER cross lines unless I personally know and saw them disconnected from source. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

[Modor20]

Isn't it your duty to save lives, regardless?

[hotzelj]

At a terrorist event such as New York, you lost hundreds of trained personnel from fire, police, and EMS because they all were in the unsafe scene. Imagine, who's going to save the hundreds of more who die tryin to save the others - it would just keep adding up until the scene becomes safe - if it ever does.

Now, not only did they die in the building collapse, but many now have lung cancer and died from complications due to the hazardous air.

[jsnzk]

@hotzelj I would suggest you forget EMS career. Time is a factor for them and most are careful and trying to secure their scene, but they knew that in this situation.  Listen to what the EMS said about the situation.

[hotzelj]

Talk to any EMS Training Facility or look at the state requirements and safety guidelines - you will find that emergency responder safety is No. 1 and that we MUST wait until the scene is safe to enter - not before - REGARDLESS of the danger to anyone's life. 2 victims are worse than 1 and emergency responders don't grow on trees.

[repSCgirl]

You're not REQUIRED to wait until the scene is safe. You have a right to protect yourself, but EMS personnel are rarely in a scene that is safe. (ie roadside crashes etc) You should consider a different career if you are not prepared to risk yourself to some degree to save others. Im not saying grab the electrical wire with your bare hand,but risking yourself to some degree is expected. Just like a firefighter runs into a burning building.......it takes a special person

[hotzelj]

I'm a NEW EMT, I am fresh out of the class. Safety of responders is No. 1, yes, in the past that was not the case, but it is today. The originally response was to a person who believed that the EMTs legally were required to endanger their own lives to save others and that is not the case. If I had done what these people had done and the EMS Supervisor was watching, I'd have been fired (today anyway). Yes, we work in a dangerous field, but we need to make or wait until the scene is safe before.

[repSCgirl]

I'm a RN and KNOW that you wouldnt be fired for resuscitating a man that had been electrocuted that was several feet under it. That said, I am also FULLY aware that you are not required to risk your life. However, to stand back and watch a victim thats clinically dead while waiting for the scene to magically become safer is dumb. A smart person would pull the pt a few feet away from the line then perform CPR. Im not saying stand inches away fr a live wire, but "throw them a line" so to speak

[repSCgirl]

i'd like to also explain that you obviously assess the situation. This pt wasnt breathing. They don't have time to wait until the power is cut. It is vital that something is done THEN. whether it be to drag them somewhere safer or do it right where he is. Don't just do nothing. Be smart at what you do,protect yourself and others. Trade the textbook for experience, good judgment, and a lil creativeness. You're going to be surprised at the situations u get in...

[hotzelj]

I was trained in law enforcment, as an EMT, and now as a firefighter. In each case, the safety of the rescurer has been more than made clear. WE are MORE important than someone needing rescue. Never risk your life in an unsafe scene. Now, what "unsafe" means will diff depending on the situation. Given our profession (especially police and fire) we come across some very dangerous things, but we have proper training. However, training does not de-energize power lines. Firefighters don't do power!

[repSCgirl]

Fist of all, your life is NOT more important than anyone's. And i never ONCE said that you "de-energize" a power line. I said don't just do nothing. whats the point in having a firefighter that doesn't risk his life to rescue some1 in a burning building??? The nature of your job is life threatening..if you're not willing to risk it then you're not going to be too good at saving lives. Ppl don't get in life threat. situations sitting in safe environments where it's convenient for you to save them

[SerialJusticeAvenger]

@hotzelj Quit the profession dumb Republican

[hotzelj]

I'm non-political, so your comment is void.

[SerialJusticeAvenger]

@hotzelj I hope you get fired you don't care about the victims

[hotzelj]

I never said I didn't care about victims, just that my safety is higher - because that is what I have been taught by the EMS school.

[SerialJusticeAvenger]

@jsnzk High five to jsnzk

[hotzelj]

Are any of you commenters actually licensed EMTs? Haven't you been told that scene safety and responder safety is No. 1? We were drilled on it. It is even a part of the Wisconsin NREMT Practical testing stations. It's an automatic fail if you don't.

[SerialJusticeAvenger]

@hotzelj I guess you will just let me die then. I hope you don't live near me. probably a Republican.....

[hotzelj]

I didn't say that, but if the scene is NOT safe for rescue personnel who are trained to deal with certain situations then yes, I won't go into a scene until it is safe at a level for the training I have receieved as an EMT. Remember - I did not place you in the situation.

[emtradar]

you would sue???? why??? its not there fault the non driver hit the lines....if thats the case I'm gonna sue u for saying something stupid

[travelplus1]

I would sue the Electric company for the wires.

[skiljathegirl]

Rule 1: never start anything if you´re in danger yourself, first make sure the scene is safe. At least take the people away from the powerlines!

[vickiormindyb]

The volts don't kill, the amperage does. Police tasers have 50,000 v.'s with 0.21 amps. The amperage it takes to kill you is .7, that's 30 times more than what's in a Taser. A police officer told me this.

However, I was told in training that hurt rescue workers are no help to the victim. That's why they teach rescue workers Urgent Care Moves.

Every once in a while you have to be on a "hot" scene anyway, but it's rare.

[jem2envi]

I don't like this woman's (whom they spoke too) attitude. When the 3rd guy called its like "wat the fuck do u want me 2 do". Perhaps its just me, but she could have been a bit more reassuring than just trying to get the guy off the phone.

[Halation2]

0_0 I see buttcrack @ 6:35

[theincompetentme]

OH, heavens no! think of the children!

[anamallover]

lol I saw it too lol

[thecollegesagateam]

Thanks