I'm so jealous of people who got to ride this. the first time I came to busch gardens was in 1998, and I was too young to have ridden it. the second time we came was in 2000 and it wasnt opened anymore but you could still see it when you went on the train. it makes me really sad to see old coasters die. it broke my heart when they took out the big bad wolf too because that was the first coaster I ever rode. I am excited to see their new coaster which takes drachenfire and bbw's place.
Wow your mom's good at taking coaster footage! Haha that's awesome how you went on 24+ times! With every classic Arrow coaster that is taken down, my heart breaks a little more.
They may be making coasters larger, taller, and faster, but they're also making them smoother and less intense. Part of the appeal of Drachen Fire to fans of the ride was it's relentless intensity! I loved every second of it! I was a 3rd grader when Drachen Fire opened, and it instantly became my favorite coaster (A title it still holds today). I rode it back to back every season. Seeing you in this video and your excitement for this roller coaster reminds me of myself in those days. TY
Its really awesome and somewhat creepy watching this raw style 'old' video footage of your vacation. Really cool to see this ride in its originality. Good on you for uploading and the quality is fine! :)
this was after they took the first corkscrew out and put the straight downhill brake section in over the walkway...loved this ride..a bunch of pussies with a headache caused this thing to be closed...i rode this thing well over 100 times when i was 11-15 and had no issues...was so sad when we came to the park and the gates to the entrance were closed...
Thank you for posting this. I was lucky enough to ride this during the first or second weekend it opened. I LOVED it!!!
Got my friend to ride with me, he agreed only if we didn't seat in front so I stepped into third line, turned out the first two were for very front seats in front car, we ended up in the back two! Sorry Brian, I noticed that whenever we rode from then on he chose the front car, riding in back wasn't the same.
WoW. I rode this "monster" back then, it was a real blast. I'm so sad they removed it !_! The last time I was there, me and my cousins went 14 times in a row trough this INCREDIBLE ride. Wish I could add a 15th......... ahhhhh great memories.
They were definitely a tight fit, not much freedom, and it was pretty rough at times, but still i loved this coaster - especially enjoyed the low elevation corkscrews
Wow! Thank you so much for posting this. I was lucky enough to ride this and I believe I rode it on the last week of it's operation (Anyone know the exact date it closed?). I was about 11 and I thought it was an amazing ride. I never had a problem with it. Riding at night was amazing, with the cars lit up. Oh yeah best part was that there was NO wait what so ever. My friend and I stayed on it till the park closed, with out getting up. Good times.
DF trains I think operate on a coaster in Japan or Taiwan.
The seats are exactly the same as any arrow looper, so yes it was a tight fit. But when I rode it, it wasn't. But it would be if I were to ride today.
this coaster could have been fixed up into something nice...i.e lapbar restaints! but to bad they care not to give it a whirl and its rumored to be in deconstruction if it is still there you get an EXCELLT view from the train ride check it out hell...BUY IT! lol im sure how long Drachen fire has been sitting you could get it for the price of a house or even less!
When I was here the ride was up but sitting dormant. We were pissed since it looked so crazy. We later found out this ride was just pure pain, so then I wasn't so sad about missing it.
Love the way it was filmed. I feel like I'm there. The train ride was neat with the girl saying how tall and fast it was. Boo hoo another good coaster I didn't get to ride RIP.
Wow-I can't believe they took this ride down. I remember my first time riding it thinking I should have held my head more steady-it would rock your neck for sure. Would love to go back to BG one day to see the new rides.
god i wish they hadn't taken this down. Im a rollercoaster-holic, and it was dismantled around when i was born. It sad though, i live very near Busch and vist there frequently, and seeing the area where it used to be sends a chill thorugh my spine. They still have the old station for it, as its now been converted into a Hallo-scream attraction. if only, if only.
as you go along the train, after leaving the festa italia station and crossing the river tressel, it is the second building you see on your left. the also have an old storage house fromt the ride, which remains there today.
During howl o scream, the haunted area that uses the land and station Drachen Fire used is called The Neverafter, it's behind the Festhaus. You can get back there unless it's for a concert on the weekends during the summer or for howl o scream.
was this the busch gardens in Virginia or florida. Its been a few years since I went to the one in Virginia, and I don't remember this being there. Oh well, I could be wrong XD great video by the way. =)
the 7 - 27 - 95 one was about 3 weeks after i was born. haha. i love this video because i went on my first roller coaster when i was 10, and i make my parents film me on the roller coasters too, lol..
Very funny, when BGE has unreliable, overhyped Griffon with two drops and two inversions, stuck on the lift Alpengeist, bumpy old nessie, 2 drop Big Bad Wolf, and hyper coaster pretender Appolo. Wow, why do you keep responding with so much B.S.
I have been a season pass holder at KD for 10 years. I have seen FOF break down 2 times, Volcano maybe 20, Backloot never. XLC was removed, so dont bring that up. Rebel Yell and Hurler are wooden, wooden coasters are bumpy! Grizzly is being retracked this year. And Shockwave and Anaconda draw very high amounts of people. KD will have a hyper coaster in 2010, one that is actually a hyper coaster. Appolo is only 170, dont call it a hyper coaster.
you sound really immature when u keep commenting about how shitty BGE is and how great KD, if u like KD why do u go on BGE videos, u probably like watching them hoping that someday KD might get a pretty good ride
well its not really working since more people still go to BGE and, so what if they got a new coaster that is big and tall. WOHOO, now KD will have 3 good rides
Busch Gardens should now approach B&M to "remake" Drachen Fire and call it "Drachen Fire 2000", use a lot of the same elements, layout, etc, but w/ the smooth, fun B&M taste
I agree that Busch should put a B&M in the empty space where Drachen Fire was, but the name's gotta be better than Drachen Fire 2000. Maybe something like Drachen's Revenge. Drachen Fire 2000 sounds like a ride that's almost a decade old, I like where your heads at though. If they ever put anything back there again, it would be accompanied by a new country to connect Oktoberfest and Festa Italia, one reason Drachen failed was it was totally out of the way.
wtf are you talking about nascar, all of BGE's new coasters (Appolo, Griffy, and Alpie). Man you have a good point, finally something we CAN agree on!
did you even ride Drachen Fire, my cousin got a concussion on it, no kidding! Anaconda has never done that to someone, besides Anaconda was built for Drachen, man you are a dipshit. As for XLC, it was removed... it broke down a lot. Reminds me of Alpengeist in that way. What do you expect XLC was a prototype just like Volcano and Flight of Fear. Nothing like those rides had ever been built before, proving that KD has many unique coasters... unlike BGE.
a hyper coaster has to be 200 feet TALL. Anywho, i never mentioned clones, and there are not 8 clones. Grizzly does not count because of noticable differences. So it really is around 5. Dont sponge numbers. BGE does not a have a wooden, launched, or standup coaster... wjich does not seem unique to me... 5 lift hill steel coasters, only one with more than two inversions, not very unique...
The coney island wildcat has been gone for years. Canadian Minebuster is not even modeled Wildcat. Making Grizlly one of a kind. Please name all clones, there is not 8.
Dude, they are EXACTLY the same. /watch?v=r4kGVzrVfBA /watch?v=ydnvLCKncOs Grizzly Rebel Yell Backlot Stunt Coaster Taxi Jam Flight of Fear Ricochet Hurler Scooby Doo Ghoster Coaster All can be found at different parks.
alpengiest is a clone of nothing, tottaly orginal, Griffon is different from all of the other diving coastes, nessie is the only roller coaster in the world to have interlocking loops (also new and original) Big Bad Wolf, idk thats the only ride like that i have ever been on, Appolo is totally new and Original, even though it is just another smooth out and back coaster
no i never rode it, honestly it looked to painful, alpengiest sometimes broken down but no ride is exactly perfect, Flight of Fear was built at Kings Island first, but i have to admit Volcano is a good ride but has like a 1 and a half hour wait, i just dont think it is worth 20 secconds of ride
Trust me, the wait is worth it for Volcano. You dont see those lines on Alpengeist, Appolo, Nessie, and BBW. Griffon sometimes, but that is because it is somewhat new. Volcano is 11 years old and is still the park favorite. Flight of Fear at KI and at KD were built the same year, check your facts. Drachen Fire was the first of three dissapointments at BGE. Appolo cmae next (mini hyper), then Alpie (maintence nightmare), and finally Griffon (2 drops 2 inversions). All dissapointments
"Trust me, the wait is worth it for Volcano. You dont see those lines on Alpengeist, Appolo, Nessie, and BBW. Griffon sometimes, but that is because it is somewhat new."
All of the rides you mentioned are high capacity rides compared to Volcano.
"Appolo cmae next (mini hyper), then Alpie (maintence nightmare), and finally Griffon (2 drops 2 inversions). All dissapointments'
Umm, Alpinegeist came next, and Apollo is a hyper. And none of the rides you mentioned are disappointing.
Whenever I go to BGE, Alpie, BBW, Nessie, and Appolo have 30-60 minute lines. Volcano even on the week days has a 2 hour line. Alpie breaks down everyday and lacks in speed. Appolo is one of the worst hyper like coasters I ever ridden on. HYPER HAVE TO BE 200 FEET TALL, THE DROP DOES NOT MATTER. Griffon has two drops and two inversions, that is very dissapointing for a hyped up coaster
A hypercoaster can mean one of two things; * A style or model of roller coaster with three features:[1] [2] [3] o An initial drop or lift hill of 200299 feet o Lacks inverting elements o A lift hill, not a launch
here is a quote from the coaster critic "The term hyper coaster was coined to refer to roller coasters 200 feet or taller."
coaster force "Today, the name "Hyper Coaster" or any of its generic variations are used to describe any steel non-inverting out & back or twister roller coaster that stands between 200-299 ft. tall and sets out to give riders airtime or big drops."
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why are you giving my comments negatives? Anywho, I'm not going to argue with you anymore. When you turn to insults rather than keeping it about the issues, the arguement is over. You know my opinion and I know yours. It is very immature to use insults rather than keeping it about the issues. I alawys assumed you would be like that, when you know your wrong, you turn to insults rather than admiting it.
You cannot admit anything. You wont admit when your wrong... you try insulting me. Hmm... who does that does remind me of? Nascartw2! Rather than responding to me, he calls me a dickhead. Pure immaturity. Dont stoop to their level Ryan, argue, dont insult
Awesome. I loved that ride! It went downhill when they changed a section of the track though so it wouldn't be as rough. I don't know why people thought it was so rough. I mean if you just kept your head back against the headrest, it wasn't so bad. Rough would have been the Outer Limits at King's Dominion before they replaced the harnesses...those things killed me every time
Ah yes the first coaster i ever rode lol when i got off it i thought for a short time that every coaster gives headaches till i rode lochness and realized it was just that one RIP: @~8~~
The area they use for Howl-o-scream now. They have two haunted houses back there and a third one outside. the Line for the ride is the first house, and the second house is the area where the trains were kept, I wanna say.
I only had one chance to ride this ride, when I was finally tall enough...I chickened out, I got close to the line and didn't go in. now its gone. I wish it was still there.
it was causing a lot of problems, people complained about it being to rough, so they closed it, to out a corkscrew, and opened it again. but i guess since it was all the way back in the so not enough people rode it, i think.
Nothing has replaced it. All thats left is the Station and the storage shed. Look in the description for a link that will tell you more about this ride.
WRONG... The title says its in Europe. WRONG. It was in Busch Gardens Williamsburg, Virginia. may have had a eouropean theme, but its in the USA. i have been on it.
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looks like any other coster i'm going there in august i'll tell u if i c it there i've been there 2 other times in august will be my 3rd time so i now more about u that means i am smarter than u ha ha ha ha
Im going in august too! august 14th to be exact. If your there the same day (which you hope your not)maybe I can knock some sense into your head when tell you that ITS NOT THERE ANYMORE!! ive been there way more times than 3! Ive been like 50! So you think your all a know-it-all and the "hero" come back to say good news when your not! this is not any other coaster! its an amazing old awesome one! and f.y.i im smarter than you! HA HA HA IN YOUR FACE!
I wrote Busch Gardens 3 days ago....told them coasters fans need a Kumba type ride!
Not a launcher type, (Storm runner is extremely rough) I was bruised. NEVER was bruised on DF! And not a Giga, etc. Want a corkscrew with many turns, heartlines, etc!!!
They will forward my email to the directors...hope they listen...there was an answer to my email!!! Write them all you coaster fans!
Hey, this footage is amazing, Drachen Fire is one of the only other Arrow Dynamics coasters that has the same trains that the Canyon Blaster in Vegas has. Great Video!!
Busch Gardens did all they could to fix the ride so it wouldn't beat people up. They analyzed the ride and determined what areas still needed to be fixed to avoid guest injuries. But, in the end they were faced with making some costly modifications that MIGHT fix the problem. Faced with this, it was Mr. Busch who gave the other to rip the ride out, rather than injure another guest. Still, it would have been niced if they reused the station for another ride.
Busch did not do all that they could to fix the problems with DF
New trains with lap bars would have easily taken care of the complaints of roughness. It worked for Flight OF Fear at Kings Dominion and Kings Island.
Roughest Ride Ever. Headache for sure every time! Outer Limits at KD when it first opened was almost as bad!! They changed the harnass at KD and it's much better now.
For all those wondering, they removed Drachen Fire because of its intensity. It was few of its kind from designer Arrow Dynamics to feature a roller coaster train design where the center of gravity was placed on the chest of the rider instead of the head, hence it banging everyone around who didn't keep their heads back. Because of the intensity factor, and poor location, with nothing around it to attract unknowing guests, it did not have the popularity that Busch Gardens wished of it.
I ride roller coasters all the time. And to be truthful this ride literally hurt me. I would be interested to go back and see if it gave me a concussion. I still like the ride though. And on a lighter note the Griffon is freakin' awesome smooth and will take your breath away.
Compare the build with Appollo's Chariot, the B&M design influence is clear. Wow, 58 times in a day by like a 10 year old. Shows you how much of a bunch of pussies the people who complained are. My hopes are that something similar will be built there eventually. I can confirm they still have the trains in the maintenance shed. There are only 6 trains like them in the world. The existing trains could be used on Loch Ness. Who knows, maybe they still have them for a reason.
I miss this ride. They should have never tore it down. It was so much better than Loch Ness. Miss it. Love the footage...brings back lots of memories. Thanks for sharing.
They took it down because some moron with a previous neck problem got whiplash on it and sued the park. They closed it down for a while tro try to fix it but things weren't working out so it closed. It was actually built by the same company that did Loch Ness too, Arrow, but unlike Loch Ness, Drachen Fire was a rushed project that B&M was supposed to do. It did stay up for a few years because a bald eagle built a nest in the track, so at least a glimmer of light came out of a sad story.
oh yea u are right on that they did have that drachen fire sighn on the little bridge over-pass, but i remember riding the train around the ride when it was closed and remember seeing what it looked like were trash bags on the station windows and their was like a skelenton sitting up in their on a bar or hangin up in the window plus they had the little dragons carved into wood shaped to fit up under the little roof on the outside edges, but yea u are right about that.
I WAS TOO AFRAID TO RIDE ROLLERCOASTERS WHEN THEY SOLD THIS. im very upset..i understand you needed to keep your neck back otherwise you'd get a bad headache.
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I'm so jealous of people who got to ride this. the first time I came to busch gardens was in 1998, and I was too young to have ridden it. the second time we came was in 2000 and it wasnt opened anymore but you could still see it when you went on the train. it makes me really sad to see old coasters die. it broke my heart when they took out the big bad wolf too because that was the first coaster I ever rode. I am excited to see their new coaster which takes drachenfire and bbw's place.
KateyZee 2 weeks ago
griffin took its spot
theDEVILdog0300 4 months ago
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KateyZee 2 weeks ago
Wow your mom's good at taking coaster footage! Haha that's awesome how you went on 24+ times! With every classic Arrow coaster that is taken down, my heart breaks a little more.
jslim39 4 months ago
I own 6 of the roller coaster cars to this ride
MrJoeAbunga 5 months ago
Amazing but it still is a fail compared to Kumba
ClaysWorld700 5 months ago
They may be making coasters larger, taller, and faster, but they're also making them smoother and less intense. Part of the appeal of Drachen Fire to fans of the ride was it's relentless intensity! I loved every second of it! I was a 3rd grader when Drachen Fire opened, and it instantly became my favorite coaster (A title it still holds today). I rode it back to back every season. Seeing you in this video and your excitement for this roller coaster reminds me of myself in those days. TY
SteamVault 6 months ago
Its really awesome and somewhat creepy watching this raw style 'old' video footage of your vacation. Really cool to see this ride in its originality. Good on you for uploading and the quality is fine! :)
xXxL3W15xXx 7 months ago
These trains were what led the Fire to downfall. If it had better trains, it would probably still be thrilling riders today.
DudeDie222 1 year ago
@FortisBong > They look like Vekoma trains to me.
rfgstl 1 year ago
this was after they took the first corkscrew out and put the straight downhill brake section in over the walkway...loved this ride..a bunch of pussies with a headache caused this thing to be closed...i rode this thing well over 100 times when i was 11-15 and had no issues...was so sad when we came to the park and the gates to the entrance were closed...
cdblcheney 1 year ago
@fairymoka the ride is called Drachen fire
nelsonr12 1 year ago
Why did they demolish it. It looked just fine.
matthewdixon93 1 year ago
I was not born...
kiwi20069 1 year ago
Thank you for posting this. I was lucky enough to ride this during the first or second weekend it opened. I LOVED it!!!
Got my friend to ride with me, he agreed only if we didn't seat in front so I stepped into third line, turned out the first two were for very front seats in front car, we ended up in the back two! Sorry Brian, I noticed that whenever we rode from then on he chose the front car, riding in back wasn't the same.
Thanks again for posting video.
bobbydraper 2 years ago
i love the B&M inspired trains...
crossbones64 2 years ago
WoW. I rode this "monster" back then, it was a real blast. I'm so sad they removed it !_! The last time I was there, me and my cousins went 14 times in a row trough this INCREDIBLE ride. Wish I could add a 15th......... ahhhhh great memories.
K9Beauty 2 years ago
They were definitely a tight fit, not much freedom, and it was pretty rough at times, but still i loved this coaster - especially enjoyed the low elevation corkscrews
VBshredder 2 years ago
I remember this!!! :~)
hokieman07 2 years ago
Wow! Thank you so much for posting this. I was lucky enough to ride this and I believe I rode it on the last week of it's operation (Anyone know the exact date it closed?). I was about 11 and I thought it was an amazing ride. I never had a problem with it. Riding at night was amazing, with the cars lit up. Oh yeah best part was that there was NO wait what so ever. My friend and I stayed on it till the park closed, with out getting up. Good times.
MetalChick592 2 years ago 2
DF trains I think operate on a coaster in Japan or Taiwan.
The seats are exactly the same as any arrow looper, so yes it was a tight fit. But when I rode it, it wasn't. But it would be if I were to ride today.
Ryan120420 2 years ago
this coaster could have been fixed up into something nice...i.e lapbar restaints! but to bad they care not to give it a whirl and its rumored to be in deconstruction if it is still there you get an EXCELLT view from the train ride check it out hell...BUY IT! lol im sure how long Drachen fire has been sitting you could get it for the price of a house or even less!
nghtk7 2 years ago
It was torn down in early 2002.
Ryan120420 2 years ago
When I was here the ride was up but sitting dormant. We were pissed since it looked so crazy. We later found out this ride was just pure pain, so then I wasn't so sad about missing it.
My cousin said it broke his glasses.
tiki2188 2 years ago
Love the way it was filmed. I feel like I'm there. The train ride was neat with the girl saying how tall and fast it was. Boo hoo another good coaster I didn't get to ride RIP.
zordfalco 2 years ago
Wow-I can't believe they took this ride down. I remember my first time riding it thinking I should have held my head more steady-it would rock your neck for sure. Would love to go back to BG one day to see the new rides.
jmcampbell78 2 years ago
when did u go the rides there now are a step up
defythe5 2 years ago
the last time I was at BG was in 95 or 96; they were in the construction stages of Alpengeist then.
jmcampbell78 2 years ago
god i wish they hadn't taken this down. Im a rollercoaster-holic, and it was dismantled around when i was born. It sad though, i live very near Busch and vist there frequently, and seeing the area where it used to be sends a chill thorugh my spine. They still have the old station for it, as its now been converted into a Hallo-scream attraction. if only, if only.
seluj1 2 years ago
where is the old station that was turned into a hallo-scream im going soon i would like to know where one of there passed coasters once was
defythe5 2 years ago
as you go along the train, after leaving the festa italia station and crossing the river tressel, it is the second building you see on your left. the also have an old storage house fromt the ride, which remains there today.
seluj1 2 years ago
During howl o scream, the haunted area that uses the land and station Drachen Fire used is called The Neverafter, it's behind the Festhaus. You can get back there unless it's for a concert on the weekends during the summer or for howl o scream.
cbj1984 2 years ago
was this the busch gardens in Virginia or florida. Its been a few years since I went to the one in Virginia, and I don't remember this being there. Oh well, I could be wrong XD great video by the way. =)
toasterdevil8000 2 years ago
Virginia
Ryan120420 2 years ago
oh okay...
solnce71 2 years ago
what whas this ride replaced with?
solnce71 2 years ago
Nothing, the area where the ride was located still sits empty.
Ryan120420 2 years ago
God I loved this coaster!
Dwings2007 2 years ago
the 7 - 27 - 95 one was about 3 weeks after i was born. haha. i love this video because i went on my first roller coaster when i was 10, and i make my parents film me on the roller coasters too, lol..
eagles4ever17 2 years ago
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eagles4ever17 2 years ago
Wow how many craptasic coasters can you have in one park?
KingsDominionLvr 2 years ago
about 14 at kings dominion
nascarntw2 2 years ago 2
Very funny, when BGE has unreliable, overhyped Griffon with two drops and two inversions, stuck on the lift Alpengeist, bumpy old nessie, 2 drop Big Bad Wolf, and hyper coaster pretender Appolo. Wow, why do you keep responding with so much B.S.
KingsDominionLvr 2 years ago
You want to talk about unreliable rides? lets talk about Volcano, Flight of Fear, Back Lot Stunt Coaster, and the former XLC.
You want to talk about bumpy rides? Lets talk about Shockwave, Anaconda, Hurler, XLC, Grizzly, and Rebel Yell.
LNM bumpy? Smoothest arrow coaster I have ever been on.
At least Busch Gardens has a hyper Coaster, and a high ranked one at that.
Hate to break it to you, but more people like BGE more than KD, the attendance numbers prove this.
Ryan120420 2 years ago
I have been a season pass holder at KD for 10 years. I have seen FOF break down 2 times, Volcano maybe 20, Backloot never. XLC was removed, so dont bring that up. Rebel Yell and Hurler are wooden, wooden coasters are bumpy! Grizzly is being retracked this year. And Shockwave and Anaconda draw very high amounts of people. KD will have a hyper coaster in 2010, one that is actually a hyper coaster. Appolo is only 170, dont call it a hyper coaster.
KingsDominionLvr 2 years ago
haha get fucking shit on kings dominion lover
nascarntw2 2 years ago 2
what the hell are you talking about, a-hole?
KingsDominionLvr 2 years ago
im talking about him shitting all over you ASSHOLE, atleast im not afraid to spell it out, fucking cunt
nascarntw2 2 years ago 2
You sound really immature when you curse.
KingsDominionLvr 2 years ago
you sound really immature when u keep commenting about how shitty BGE is and how great KD, if u like KD why do u go on BGE videos, u probably like watching them hoping that someday KD might get a pretty good ride
nascarntw2 2 years ago
I watch them to realize how lucky I am to live close to Kings Dominion and to convince people to go to KD rather than BGE
KingsDominionLvr 2 years ago
We already have great rides and we will have the tallest coaster in VA in 2010
KingsDominionLvr 2 years ago
well its not really working since more people still go to BGE and, so what if they got a new coaster that is big and tall. WOHOO, now KD will have 3 good rides
nascarntw2 2 years ago
Apollo
170 feet WITH a 210ft drop = Hyper coaster
My two visits to the park I Saw:
BLSC break down 3 times
Volcano break down 4 times
XLC break down 6 times
Flight of Fear break down 2 times
And this is not including the power glitch the park had shutting down everything in the park.
Yes, wood coasters are suppose to be bumpy, but not to the point where your spine is about to shatter.
Who says KD is getting a Hyper? A rumors are saying Carowinds is getting the Hyper next year.
Ryan120420 2 years ago
Looks goood :)
XFactorFan1234 2 years ago
if that ride was stiil there
i would SO ride it
wac24299 2 years ago
that was taken 3 days b4 my birthday - 7/24/95 :o
AlexWDWCP2014 2 years ago
sadly this ride had been shut down already when i went to the park for the first time
chmowski 3 years ago
Busch Gardens should now approach B&M to "remake" Drachen Fire and call it "Drachen Fire 2000", use a lot of the same elements, layout, etc, but w/ the smooth, fun B&M taste
skibum101184 3 years ago
yea they should
DudeDie222 2 years ago
I agree that Busch should put a B&M in the empty space where Drachen Fire was, but the name's gotta be better than Drachen Fire 2000. Maybe something like Drachen's Revenge. Drachen Fire 2000 sounds like a ride that's almost a decade old, I like where your heads at though. If they ever put anything back there again, it would be accompanied by a new country to connect Oktoberfest and Festa Italia, one reason Drachen failed was it was totally out of the way.
cbj1984 2 years ago
they should name it "Drachen Fire, the Return
nascarntw2 2 years ago
wtf are you talking about nascar, all of BGE's new coasters (Appolo, Griffy, and Alpie). Man you have a good point, finally something we CAN agree on!
KingsDominionLvr 2 years ago
did you even ride Drachen Fire, my cousin got a concussion on it, no kidding! Anaconda has never done that to someone, besides Anaconda was built for Drachen, man you are a dipshit. As for XLC, it was removed... it broke down a lot. Reminds me of Alpengeist in that way. What do you expect XLC was a prototype just like Volcano and Flight of Fear. Nothing like those rides had ever been built before, proving that KD has many unique coasters... unlike BGE.
KingsDominionLvr 2 years ago
". Nothing like those rides had ever been built before, proving that KD has many unique coasters... unlike BGE. "
LOL, eight of the fourteen coasters at KD are clones. None at BGE are clones, all custom an unique to BGE.
Ryan120420 2 years ago
Alpengeist, inverted coaster (many of those)
Griffon- (5 in the world that are similar)
Nessie (arrow looper... enough said)
Big Bad Wolf (ninja, except ninja os actually good)
Appolo (mini hyper, well I'll give you that)
KD 3, Bge 1 another win for KD
KingsDominionLvr 2 years ago
Sorry, but type of coaster dose not mean clone.
Name One of BGEs 5 major coasters that are CLONES.
You cant.
"Appolo (mini hyper, well I'll give you that)"
Sorry, but Apollo is a Hyper, 210ft drop.
Ryan120420 2 years ago
a hyper coaster has to be 200 feet TALL. Anywho, i never mentioned clones, and there are not 8 clones. Grizzly does not count because of noticable differences. So it really is around 5. Dont sponge numbers. BGE does not a have a wooden, launched, or standup coaster... wjich does not seem unique to me... 5 lift hill steel coasters, only one with more than two inversions, not very unique...
KingsDominionLvr 2 years ago
You forgot about the CLONE of Grizzly at Canada's Wonderland. Also Grizzly is a Clone of Coney Island Wild Cat.
KD has 8 Clones.
Ryan120420 2 years ago
The coney island wildcat has been gone for years. Canadian Minebuster is not even modeled Wildcat. Making Grizlly one of a kind. Please name all clones, there is not 8.
KingsDominionLvr 2 years ago
Ryan120420 2 years ago
alpengiest is a clone of nothing, tottaly orginal, Griffon is different from all of the other diving coastes, nessie is the only roller coaster in the world to have interlocking loops (also new and original) Big Bad Wolf, idk thats the only ride like that i have ever been on, Appolo is totally new and Original, even though it is just another smooth out and back coaster
nascarntw2 2 years ago
This is kinda random ryan but, Warner Music kicks ass.
KingsDominionLvr 2 years ago
Iam sure many people on youtube will agree.
Ryan120420 2 years ago
Man, I am glad we could agree on at least something!
KingsDominionLvr 2 years ago
no i never rode it, honestly it looked to painful, alpengiest sometimes broken down but no ride is exactly perfect, Flight of Fear was built at Kings Island first, but i have to admit Volcano is a good ride but has like a 1 and a half hour wait, i just dont think it is worth 20 secconds of ride
nascarntw2 2 years ago
Trust me, the wait is worth it for Volcano. You dont see those lines on Alpengeist, Appolo, Nessie, and BBW. Griffon sometimes, but that is because it is somewhat new. Volcano is 11 years old and is still the park favorite. Flight of Fear at KI and at KD were built the same year, check your facts. Drachen Fire was the first of three dissapointments at BGE. Appolo cmae next (mini hyper), then Alpie (maintence nightmare), and finally Griffon (2 drops 2 inversions). All dissapointments
KingsDominionLvr 2 years ago
"Trust me, the wait is worth it for Volcano. You dont see those lines on Alpengeist, Appolo, Nessie, and BBW. Griffon sometimes, but that is because it is somewhat new."
All of the rides you mentioned are high capacity rides compared to Volcano.
"Appolo cmae next (mini hyper), then Alpie (maintence nightmare), and finally Griffon (2 drops 2 inversions). All dissapointments'
Umm, Alpinegeist came next, and Apollo is a hyper. And none of the rides you mentioned are disappointing.
Ryan120420 2 years ago
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Whenever I go to BGE, Alpie, BBW, Nessie, and Appolo have 30-60 minute lines. Volcano even on the week days has a 2 hour line. Alpie breaks down everyday and lacks in speed. Appolo is one of the worst hyper like coasters I ever ridden on. HYPER HAVE TO BE 200 FEET TALL, THE DROP DOES NOT MATTER. Griffon has two drops and two inversions, that is very dissapointing for a hyped up coaster
KingsDominionLvr 2 years ago
Definition of a hyper coaster:
A hypercoaster can mean one of two things; * A style or model of roller coaster with three features:[1] [2] [3] o An initial drop or lift hill of 200299 feet o Lacks inverting elements o A lift hill, not a launch
Ryan120420 2 years ago
here is a quote from the coaster critic "The term hyper coaster was coined to refer to roller coasters 200 feet or taller."
coaster force "Today, the name "Hyper Coaster" or any of its generic variations are used to describe any steel non-inverting out & back or twister roller coaster that stands between 200-299 ft. tall and sets out to give riders airtime or big drops."
KingsDominionLvr 2 years ago
would you like anymore quotes?
KingsDominionLvr 2 years ago
And yet, if you read his review on Apollos Chariot, he considers it a Hyper coaster.
A hyper coaster is a coaster with a lift of 200-299ft OR a drop of 200-299ft.
Ryan120420 2 years ago
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no, it is not
KingsDominionLvr 2 years ago
LMAO!
What ever makes you sleep at night.
Ryan120420 2 years ago
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why are you giving my comments negatives? Anywho, I'm not going to argue with you anymore. When you turn to insults rather than keeping it about the issues, the arguement is over. You know my opinion and I know yours. It is very immature to use insults rather than keeping it about the issues. I alawys assumed you would be like that, when you know your wrong, you turn to insults rather than admiting it.
KingsDominionLvr 2 years ago
I did not give your comments negatives.
Thanks for blaming me.
Ryan120420 2 years ago
You cannot admit anything. You wont admit when your wrong... you try insulting me. Hmm... who does that does remind me of? Nascartw2! Rather than responding to me, he calls me a dickhead. Pure immaturity. Dont stoop to their level Ryan, argue, dont insult
KingsDominionLvr 2 years ago
Don't blame me for something I did not do.
Goodbye!
Ryan120420 2 years ago
i called u a dickhead, u said for me to go breast feed to my mom, wow really mature (and very wierd) to say to a regular person
nascarntw2 2 years ago
haha u insult people to u fucking hipocrit,
nascarntw2 2 years ago
I'm so upset I never got a chance to ride it, because it was shut down before I ever met the height requirement
erinstrikesback 3 years ago
Your so lucky you got to ride Drachen fire. Great video!
Gnarkillpro 3 years ago
Awsome video man. This ride is massive would have been great if the actual plans followed through and B&M built it. Would have been one great ride.
MikeIsEvil 3 years ago
yes it would
DudeDie222 2 years ago
Awesome. I loved that ride! It went downhill when they changed a section of the track though so it wouldn't be as rough. I don't know why people thought it was so rough. I mean if you just kept your head back against the headrest, it wasn't so bad. Rough would have been the Outer Limits at King's Dominion before they replaced the harnesses...those things killed me every time
servo1138 3 years ago
thats cool thanks for posting this.
teamwhitebread2 3 years ago
I just have to say that Drachen Fire looks fun, but it sounds VERY rough with all of the clanking that was heard.
I love how the trains are styled though. It's a shame that only a few Arrow coasters have those kind of trains.
coasterfreak14 3 years ago
how old were you?
coasterdude4579 3 years ago
7 years old
Ryan120420 3 years ago
That skinny guy is me. And Drachen Fire was not that rough and was not made by Vekoma.
Ryan120420 3 years ago
Most epic video ever.
Rabshadow 3 years ago
lol
reminds me of cloverfield fdor some reason
polkm714 3 years ago
It kills me that its gone!
tripyramidslide 3 years ago
awesome footage... shame i'll never be albe to ride it.... :(
jslim39 3 years ago 2
is this wer the griffon is now?
frogman1111111 3 years ago
No.
Ryan120420 3 years ago
is it closed now?
ChophouseProductions 3 years ago
defunct=Closed.
Ryan120420 3 years ago
Ah yes the first coaster i ever rode lol when i got off it i thought for a short time that every coaster gives headaches till i rode lochness and realized it was just that one RIP: @~8~~
Dark1370 3 years ago
*Tears*
thanks for posting i just got my youth back. man i miss that ride!!!
azurienn 3 years ago
I miss this this coaster!!!!
I loved it....if you sit properly like you should.....head back and centered, it was awesome.
Dwings2007 3 years ago
I believe this is called 'Dragon Fire' at Canada's Wonderland.
hav9k 3 years ago
Two different coasters, with two completely different layouts.
The only thing they share in common is the manufacturer and similar names (drachen is German for dragon).
Ryan120420 3 years ago
Griffon replaced this
Fudgebegood 3 years ago
Griffon Replaced Le Mans Raceway. Nothing has replaced Drachen Fire. The area that it occupied still sits empty.
Ryan120420 3 years ago
The area they use for Howl-o-scream now. They have two haunted houses back there and a third one outside. the Line for the ride is the first house, and the second house is the area where the trains were kept, I wanna say.
I only had one chance to ride this ride, when I was finally tall enough...I chickened out, I got close to the line and didn't go in. now its gone. I wish it was still there.
HeartlesNobody 3 years ago
ive been to buschgardens 78 times its in williamsburg virginia but it has a europe theme
pattycake97 3 years ago
You must have really liked that coaster since you went on it 24 times. Why was it torn down?
KeithNet 3 years ago
I when on it more than that. I rode it a total of 58 times that day.
Ryan120420 3 years ago
it was causing a lot of problems, people complained about it being to rough, so they closed it, to out a corkscrew, and opened it again. but i guess since it was all the way back in the so not enough people rode it, i think.
elephantface105 3 years ago
We used to call it "F*ckin Dryer" because it felt like you had just been put through a dryer when you got off. VERY rough ride.
shoshiboo 3 years ago
man in this video the ride looks slow and i know its only 60 mph but i really wanted to ride it and im 13 so i was 3 when it got torn down
1020750 3 years ago
It was closed in 1998 and torn down in 2002
Ryan120420 3 years ago
i would of never even knew it existed tell me more of what was there before the new rides
nooloo3000 3 years ago
Nothing has replaced it. All thats left is the Station and the storage shed. Look in the description for a link that will tell you more about this ride.
Ryan120420 3 years ago
WRONG... The title says its in Europe. WRONG. It was in Busch Gardens Williamsburg, Virginia. may have had a eouropean theme, but its in the USA. i have been on it.
polevaulterjs 3 years ago
Busch Gardens Europe is the name of the park.
I know its in VA.
Your wrong.
Ryan120420 3 years ago
how am i wrong
polevaulterjs 3 years ago
The parks official name is Busch Gardens Europe.
No were in the title did I say it was located in Europe.
Ryan120420 3 years ago
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looks like any other coster i'm going there in august i'll tell u if i c it there i've been there 2 other times in august will be my 3rd time so i now more about u that means i am smarter than u ha ha ha ha
MonkeyGirl721 3 years ago
This rollercoaster isnt there anymore.
AngryCorndog 3 years ago 2
Im going in august too! august 14th to be exact. If your there the same day (which you hope your not)maybe I can knock some sense into your head when tell you that ITS NOT THERE ANYMORE!! ive been there way more times than 3! Ive been like 50! So you think your all a know-it-all and the "hero" come back to say good news when your not! this is not any other coaster! its an amazing old awesome one! and f.y.i im smarter than you! HA HA HA IN YOUR FACE!
smileygirl1029 3 years ago 2
Thanks for making my day!
Thrubee69 3 years ago
maybe if you keep looking for it you'll find it somwhere :-)
MichaelDavisISTC 3 years ago
I wrote Busch Gardens 3 days ago....told them coasters fans need a Kumba type ride!
Not a launcher type, (Storm runner is extremely rough) I was bruised. NEVER was bruised on DF! And not a Giga, etc. Want a corkscrew with many turns, heartlines, etc!!!
They will forward my email to the directors...hope they listen...there was an answer to my email!!! Write them all you coaster fans!
Dwings2007 3 years ago
Storm runner is not rough at all...
warioware2k5 3 years ago
7/27/95 is the day after my b day... my b day is 7 26 95
Dharokgreatax 3 years ago
wow what a cool coaster.. lol i was born on the 1995
ultimatesoul123 3 years ago
Hey, this footage is amazing, Drachen Fire is one of the only other Arrow Dynamics coasters that has the same trains that the Canyon Blaster in Vegas has. Great Video!!
TatsuFanLV 3 years ago 2
Busch Gardens did all they could to fix the ride so it wouldn't beat people up. They analyzed the ride and determined what areas still needed to be fixed to avoid guest injuries. But, in the end they were faced with making some costly modifications that MIGHT fix the problem. Faced with this, it was Mr. Busch who gave the other to rip the ride out, rather than injure another guest. Still, it would have been niced if they reused the station for another ride.
dvdtranslations 3 years ago
Busch did not do all that they could to fix the problems with DF
New trains with lap bars would have easily taken care of the complaints of roughness. It worked for Flight OF Fear at Kings Dominion and Kings Island.
Ryan120420 3 years ago
Roughest Ride Ever. Headache for sure every time! Outer Limits at KD when it first opened was almost as bad!! They changed the harnass at KD and it's much better now.
sclendenin 3 years ago
y did they bring this down? =(
alienmoocow 3 years ago
There is a link in the description that tells you the entire story on why it was torn down.
Ryan120420 3 years ago
nice ride
HarryPotter517 3 years ago
My mom went on this ride when she was pregnant with me....My sister says, "so that explains it"
protonsunite 3 years ago 6
lol
thesurferdudez 3 years ago 2
For all those wondering, they removed Drachen Fire because of its intensity. It was few of its kind from designer Arrow Dynamics to feature a roller coaster train design where the center of gravity was placed on the chest of the rider instead of the head, hence it banging everyone around who didn't keep their heads back. Because of the intensity factor, and poor location, with nothing around it to attract unknowing guests, it did not have the popularity that Busch Gardens wished of it.
xcmile 3 years ago 3
Damn dude. How old were you in the last one? You're in the last car by yourself. At your age you must have alot of guts.
Thrubee69 3 years ago 3
7 years old.
Ryan120420 3 years ago
I ride roller coasters all the time. And to be truthful this ride literally hurt me. I would be interested to go back and see if it gave me a concussion. I still like the ride though. And on a lighter note the Griffon is freakin' awesome smooth and will take your breath away.
TILLEYJS 3 years ago 2
I loved that ride when I went there as a kid.
ILkBigButts 3 years ago
Compare the build with Appollo's Chariot, the B&M design influence is clear. Wow, 58 times in a day by like a 10 year old. Shows you how much of a bunch of pussies the people who complained are. My hopes are that something similar will be built there eventually. I can confirm they still have the trains in the maintenance shed. There are only 6 trains like them in the world. The existing trains could be used on Loch Ness. Who knows, maybe they still have them for a reason.
LimeCunt 3 years ago 2
7 years old.
Ryan120420 3 years ago
Ya, those trains would look cool on loch ness.
Coasterman6789 3 years ago 2
It was a sad thing, but they were thinking of profits...
I sadly never got to ride that monster...and oh do I regret that
zrs09 3 years ago
the sketeton was part of hollow scream , when was this you saw it
mrdelusionalx 3 years ago
I miss this ride. They should have never tore it down. It was so much better than Loch Ness. Miss it. Love the footage...brings back lots of memories. Thanks for sharing.
violaman1973 3 years ago 2
They took it down because some moron with a previous neck problem got whiplash on it and sued the park. They closed it down for a while tro try to fix it but things weren't working out so it closed. It was actually built by the same company that did Loch Ness too, Arrow, but unlike Loch Ness, Drachen Fire was a rushed project that B&M was supposed to do. It did stay up for a few years because a bald eagle built a nest in the track, so at least a glimmer of light came out of a sad story.
USHet63 3 years ago 3
I knew all of that. Thanks though.
violaman1973 3 years ago
where is this
cokebottle25 3 years ago
Williamsburg VA.
Ryan120420 3 years ago
how many times did u go on this
sealove127 3 years ago
That day 58 times. All together from 1996-1998 75 times.
Ryan120420 3 years ago
WOW thats insane,
sealove127 3 years ago
oh yea u are right on that they did have that drachen fire sighn on the little bridge over-pass, but i remember riding the train around the ride when it was closed and remember seeing what it looked like were trash bags on the station windows and their was like a skelenton sitting up in their on a bar or hangin up in the window plus they had the little dragons carved into wood shaped to fit up under the little roof on the outside edges, but yea u are right about that.
vanigga210 3 years ago
their was a skelenton in the boarding station, u don't remember??
vanigga210 3 years ago
No, The station was just that a Station. A Nice one but no theming except for that Drachen Fire Sign on the front of the station house.
Ryan120420 3 years ago
yea what was that skeleton that was their when i rode it?, i remember seeing a skeleton in the station
vanigga210 3 years ago
i wish i could of rode it
strongmad86 3 years ago
it was ok... to jerky and to much neck damage.... haha they had to destroy it because of all the injuries
donttripp92 3 years ago
Y DID THEY TEAR IT DOWN!!!!!
i wanted to ride it
lyles55 3 years ago
it was a fun ride btw
cluenobody 3 years ago
Look in the description for a link to a web site that will answer all your questions.
Ryan120420 3 years ago
people where pussys
strongmad86 3 years ago
The reason they took it down was because people were getting hurt on it
Hinata5546 3 years ago
I WAS TOO AFRAID TO RIDE ROLLERCOASTERS WHEN THEY SOLD THIS. im very upset..i understand you needed to keep your neck back otherwise you'd get a bad headache.
lol
ItalianDC 3 years ago
oh. ok ty
AVPloverSCAR 3 years ago