@AlisoViejoMan Couldn't agree more, the whole L.A. market all to himself. Oh well, now that he's dead the NFL will want to move the Raiders to LA once that new stadium is built.
Im a raider fan. Im still surprised that charger team back then didnt win a superbowl. A lil bit of defense though and they may have won 2 superbowls.
@bakerandbaker1 Exactly what I'd like to know. I've seen old openings from all three networks, and you're right-- CBS did not use the old NFL shield in its opening then. That's a good question right there, one worthy of discussion.
In fact, if I remember correctly, CBS didn't use the NFL logo in it's intro until it returned to football in 1998 after a five year hiatus (they lost NFC football package to FOX after the 1993 NFC Championship Game but gained rights to the AFC package in 1998 after NBC left the NFL). In that intro, the CBS Sports script flys above statues of three players in a dome and then the intro cuts to the NFL logo at midfield.
@neoprankster Monday night games in Anaheim (for the Rams) weren't unusual but you're right, they stopped having Raiders Monday night games at the L.A. Coliseum. I think the last one was in '85, because they thought it was too dangerous. The Rams played at the Coliseum through 1979, then went to Anaheim. In '82, the Raiders came.
@soxpacker@neoprankster The NFL's aversion to MNF games in Los Angeles had much more to do with the Coliseum having such a large capacity that it was almost impossible to sell out games and get the local black out lifted. ABC and the NFL wanted MNF games to air in LA. This particular game was not seen in LA due to the black out rule. After another Monday nighter against the Chargers in 1985, the Raiders never hosted another prime time game in LA before returning to Oakland.
@tamalie2 That's true, the high capacity was always a huge problem. However, it did seem like the Rams had their fair share of MNF games at the Coliseum in the 70s. That's why i think the safety angle was also a factor. I've heard others mention that too.
You know what made this (an ABC opening) really great (IMO, of course)? The fact that while Frank Gifford was narrating highlights of Plunkett and Allen and other Raiders, I saw shots of NBC's paraphernalia (stadium banners, etc.) that had the "Proud N." Those shots bolster my opinion that not only was the NFL better then in terms of talent, but also presentation.
@bmasters1981 I have been trying to find NBC's intros for NFL football from 1982 and 1983 and most of the DVD's that I got don't have it so if you know somebody who has it tell him to post it up here on YouTube
Its strange to say this because the Raiders Won 2 SB in the 80's but they Underachieved that Decade & should of Dominated the AFC in the 80's & perhaps been the Team of the 80's with 3-4 SB Titles. They were Clearly more Talented then Miami, Denver, Cleveland etc.
Not strange at all. They blew it in '82, blew it in '85, underachieved in '86 and '89. So much talent but it was the first sign that the game was passing Al Davis by.
Winslow caught 55 passes in 1984 yet played in only seven games that season. If not for injuries, Winslow probably would have set the single-season receptions record that year instead of Art Monk.
Very impressive intro for '84. The stadium open was modified for 1985 (in addition to using footage from Super Bowl XIX {ABC's first}, the intro for that season proceeded to go through the stadium "doors" instead of the field).
@cbaldwinjr The Chargers brought big ratings, win or lose. Even people who weren't into football would tune in to watch Air Coryell. Of course their terrible defense made everyone else look great on offense, too.
Absolutely understood. But I just think you put the champions out there first...especially a champion that started what, 4-0 in 1984? If those Charger teams after 1980 (the last year they had a decent D with Fred Dean, Louie Kelchor, and Gary "Big Hands" Johnson) played ANY SEMBLANCE of defense, they had rings for the taking in 81 and 82. Hell, they had it there in 79 and 80...the only team I think that could've beaten the late 70's Steelers was Air Coryell's Chargers.
@cbaldwinjr That was Gene Klein. He traded Fred Dean and John Jefferson when the Chargers were a dropped pass and a deflected pass from a SB. They were able to replace JJ (I thought Chandler was better anyway) but they never did replace Dean.
Coryell had Chuck Noll's number -it's as simple as that.
If you think the ABC played favorites based on asses in seats, just remember how CBS kept the Cowboys as their #1 team til 89 when they not only didn't win, but were no fun to watch either. Ugh!
True on all counts. Great take on that. Gene Klein should be viewed by folks in San Diego much the same way Robert Sarver should be looked at in Phoenix, Carl Pohlad was looked at in Minnesota, and the Bidwell's should've been looked at in Phoenix (wow...really sucks for the 'GOOD' people of Arizona): too cheap to field a championship team. Yet get guys that can win, PAY THEM THE MONEY. Losing Fred Dean was what turned a good defense into a pitiful one.
Man, upload the whole game!!!!
JayMay232 2 weeks ago
Did this game even sell out?
nomadcowatbk 6 months ago
Al Davis was such an Idiot to move away from the LA market, one he could have had all to himself
AlisoViejoMan 7 months ago
@AlisoViejoMan Couldn't agree more, the whole L.A. market all to himself. Oh well, now that he's dead the NFL will want to move the Raiders to LA once that new stadium is built.
Jetsgo10 2 months ago
Im a raider fan. Im still surprised that charger team back then didnt win a superbowl. A lil bit of defense though and they may have won 2 superbowls.
bb62g 8 months ago
Chargers should go back to wearing those uniforms
gjs78 1 year ago
@gjs78 I agree...they could at least have it as a second alternate.
thetheRedundant 10 months ago
I'm a big Chiefs Fan but I always love to see San Diego vs Oakland Games.
ToroRosso20 1 year ago
@ToroRosso20 Raider fan here ,the afc west has just as much history and hatred as the old nfc centeral
momojojo75 1 year ago
@momojojo75 I am an AFC Guy more than NFC. I think the AFC has better players.
Time for the AFC West to be the TOP Division in all of the NFL once again.
ToroRosso20 1 year ago
What's with the NFL logo in the bottom left of the screen? But a better question is: why didn't CBS use the NFL logo whereas their competitors did?
bakerandbaker1 1 year ago
@bakerandbaker1 Exactly what I'd like to know. I've seen old openings from all three networks, and you're right-- CBS did not use the old NFL shield in its opening then. That's a good question right there, one worthy of discussion.
bmasters1981 1 year ago
In fact, if I remember correctly, CBS didn't use the NFL logo in it's intro until it returned to football in 1998 after a five year hiatus (they lost NFC football package to FOX after the 1993 NFC Championship Game but gained rights to the AFC package in 1998 after NBC left the NFL). In that intro, the CBS Sports script flys above statues of three players in a dome and then the intro cuts to the NFL logo at midfield.
bakerandbaker1 1 year ago 2
Didn't the LA teams usually play Sunday nights and Monday nights on the road?
neoprankster 1 year ago
@neoprankster Monday night games in Anaheim (for the Rams) weren't unusual but you're right, they stopped having Raiders Monday night games at the L.A. Coliseum. I think the last one was in '85, because they thought it was too dangerous. The Rams played at the Coliseum through 1979, then went to Anaheim. In '82, the Raiders came.
soxpacker 7 months ago
@soxpacker @neoprankster The NFL's aversion to MNF games in Los Angeles had much more to do with the Coliseum having such a large capacity that it was almost impossible to sell out games and get the local black out lifted. ABC and the NFL wanted MNF games to air in LA. This particular game was not seen in LA due to the black out rule. After another Monday nighter against the Chargers in 1985, the Raiders never hosted another prime time game in LA before returning to Oakland.
tamalie2 7 months ago
@tamalie2 That's true, the high capacity was always a huge problem. However, it did seem like the Rams had their fair share of MNF games at the Coliseum in the 70s. That's why i think the safety angle was also a factor. I've heard others mention that too.
soxpacker 7 months ago
This was a close game. The Chargers led in the 4th quarter, and the Raiders scored a late TD and won 33-30.
DiAnno13 1 year ago
You know what made this (an ABC opening) really great (IMO, of course)? The fact that while Frank Gifford was narrating highlights of Plunkett and Allen and other Raiders, I saw shots of NBC's paraphernalia (stadium banners, etc.) that had the "Proud N." Those shots bolster my opinion that not only was the NFL better then in terms of talent, but also presentation.
bmasters1981 1 year ago
@bmasters1981 I have been trying to find NBC's intros for NFL football from 1982 and 1983 and most of the DVD's that I got don't have it so if you know somebody who has it tell him to post it up here on YouTube
cooksta4prez08 1 year ago
best intro of all time
bucball37 1 year ago
raiders247online - do you have the rest of the game? Thanks anyway for the upload!
Edd1e8 1 year ago
I miss when they play in Los Angeles..I kno they will go back Los Angeles Soon because Fuck Oakland
samoanjake88 1 year ago
Its strange to say this because the Raiders Won 2 SB in the 80's but they Underachieved that Decade & should of Dominated the AFC in the 80's & perhaps been the Team of the 80's with 3-4 SB Titles. They were Clearly more Talented then Miami, Denver, Cleveland etc.
ErikS1975FreeState 1 year ago
@ErikS1975FreeState
Not strange at all. They blew it in '82, blew it in '85, underachieved in '86 and '89. So much talent but it was the first sign that the game was passing Al Davis by.
cbaldwinjr 1 year ago
John Madden left too soon & Al Davis fired Tom Flores too soon.
ErikS1975FreeState 1 year ago
@ErikS1975FreeState
Flores left on his own after 1987 if I remember. Madden must've been okay since he never seriously thought about coming back to coaching
cbaldwinjr 1 year ago
They should have gone to 4 straight super bowls.
jcueto75 1 year ago
Winslow caught 55 passes in 1984 yet played in only seven games that season. If not for injuries, Winslow probably would have set the single-season receptions record that year instead of Art Monk.
SuperBowlExpert 1 year ago
Very impressive intro for '84. The stadium open was modified for 1985 (in addition to using footage from Super Bowl XIX {ABC's first}, the intro for that season proceeded to go through the stadium "doors" instead of the field).
Market42Fan 2 years ago
Kinda funny how the Chargers get top billing even though the defending world champions were the Raiders
cbaldwinjr 2 years ago
@cbaldwinjr The Chargers brought big ratings, win or lose. Even people who weren't into football would tune in to watch Air Coryell. Of course their terrible defense made everyone else look great on offense, too.
Jelperman 1 year ago
@Jelperman
Absolutely understood. But I just think you put the champions out there first...especially a champion that started what, 4-0 in 1984? If those Charger teams after 1980 (the last year they had a decent D with Fred Dean, Louie Kelchor, and Gary "Big Hands" Johnson) played ANY SEMBLANCE of defense, they had rings for the taking in 81 and 82. Hell, they had it there in 79 and 80...the only team I think that could've beaten the late 70's Steelers was Air Coryell's Chargers.
cbaldwinjr 1 year ago
@cbaldwinjr That was Gene Klein. He traded Fred Dean and John Jefferson when the Chargers were a dropped pass and a deflected pass from a SB. They were able to replace JJ (I thought Chandler was better anyway) but they never did replace Dean.
Coryell had Chuck Noll's number -it's as simple as that.
If you think the ABC played favorites based on asses in seats, just remember how CBS kept the Cowboys as their #1 team til 89 when they not only didn't win, but were no fun to watch either. Ugh!
Jelperman 1 year ago
@Jelperman
True on all counts. Great take on that. Gene Klein should be viewed by folks in San Diego much the same way Robert Sarver should be looked at in Phoenix, Carl Pohlad was looked at in Minnesota, and the Bidwell's should've been looked at in Phoenix (wow...really sucks for the 'GOOD' people of Arizona): too cheap to field a championship team. Yet get guys that can win, PAY THEM THE MONEY. Losing Fred Dean was what turned a good defense into a pitiful one.
cbaldwinjr 1 year ago 2
@cbaldwinjr I think that's only due to TV broadcasters' usual practice of listing the visiting team first.
kfodom 1 year ago