i just hate the fact that shaka fell victim 2 the swallows! they fkd him out of land, diamond mines, ivory everything! 1 thing about it chaka had sum real 1s on his team! he just didnt take heed 2 theyre advice! till diss day we r still allowing da swallows 2 claim victory ova ourblack nation!! slave masta, da tyme shall cum when we have 2 blast ya!
yeah zulus and no other african warriors sing a saluting chant to their enemy, thats just a stupid idea. If youve got the lungs to sing youve got the lungs to fight.
Anyone who speak zulu or at least know this chant can please write a text both in zulu and english on what they are sayng, in aprticoular the motive they repeat from 1:58 . Thank you!
Im welsh, and i feel that the british were wrong to have ever invaded the Zululand, i think the zulu chants are truely amazing and show great respect towards the british in war even after what the british had done.
@musiccomuk The British didn't invade Zululand, it was the other way around. The Zulus invaded the British Colony of Natal, an area of land claimed by no-one in which the borders were agreed peacefully..
The Zulus had been attacking Boer settlers (Dutch, not British) and the British ordered them to stop due to an Anglo-Dutch Treaty. When they didn't the British threatened action. The Zulus invaded Natal and attacked British garrisons. The Zulus were the aggressors, not the British.
@Silverfox0984 The British Empire at the time comprised one third of the globe The Zulu Empire consisted of a patch of South Africa . I dont think the British can be entirely absolved from blame on the " Aggressor " point [
@Gommerell Nice Blackadder reference, but totally irrelevent here. The fact is the British were peaceful with the Zulus until they began attacking the colonists in Natal and the British intervened to stop them. The British had no interest in eradicating the Zulu kingdom. And also in 1879 the British Empire did not cover a quarter of the globe.
@Silverfox0984 So without being Aggresive the British Ended up with Africa from Cairo to the Cape ? The British Could not let any rival live around them , think the constant Wars of the Empire
Before every war you get "Border Incidents ", America is looking for pretexts to attack Iraq this very day , Britain is sending Ships to the Falklands as we speak . You have to have "Border incidents " to justify invading a Country .
@Gommerell Point it the British did not bring about the events of the Zulu War. The borders between the Zulu Kingdom and British Colonies were agreed peacefully. Someone assumed the British were the aggressors in the Anglo-Zulu War. I pointed out this wasn't the case and that military action would have been avoided had the Zulu's agreed with Britain's demand to cease their attacks on the Boers and the Colonists.
African 'borders' were created BY Empire's, not around them.
@Silverfox0984 Did Sir Bartle Frere not make an ultimatum to the Zulus , of 20 points . effectively asking them to disband or be invaded ? The British were keen on the resource wealth of Africa , they could not have that jeopardised by a hostile native army 60,000 strong , So they provoked the War .
You could say that when two warlike races touch borders then war is inevitable .
@Gommerell So you believe a perceived provocation in the mindset of the Zulu's had of the British presence is a more justifiable reason for laying the blame with the British rather than the acts of murder, rape and violence the Zulu's committed against what were effectively farmers?
And on that note, i shall end this pointless discussion with you sir.
@Silverfox0984 You just see things in terms of Black and White , I see shades of Grey Attacking individual farmers was an effective strategy , especially if the farmers were away on a "Commando " raid themselves .Knowing that their homesteads were indanger would force the m to disperse quicker as opposed to charging the Commando head on and getting wiped out by rifles agaisnt cowhide shields . What would you do @Silver if the roles were reversed ?
@Gommerell I believe i have ended our discussion as it is detracting from it's original point. Someone made the incorrect assumption that he felt the British were 'wrong' to invade Zululand. I pointed out the British didn't 'invade' Zululand as they were attacked by the Zulu's first. Reasonings, gains, losses, ultimations and purpose can be argued either way but the simple fact remains; the Zulus were attacking colonists and Boers and the British told them to stop, hence the conflict.
@Gommerell The Boers, or "Kommandos" as you prefer to call them, were under the protection of the British as per the Anglo-Dutch Treaty. If anything you are suggesting that the ones who started the war were the Boers by instigating attacks on the Zulus who then retaliated against them.
Either way, the war was not the 'fault' of the British, was it, which was exactly my original point.
@HarryHook, I suggest you check your history books!! The Battle of Rorkes Drift of which Zulu is about took place AFTER the massacre of the British Army at Isandhlwana!
Anyone who believes that whites are superior to blacks should first learn to spell and use correct grammar! I see nothing superior in those comments! White skin is the result of a mutation in the melanin gene that protects against UV. The same can be said of blonde hair. These traits are genetically recessive. This is why, historically, we (whites) only survived in regions away from the equator - Scandinavia and Northern Russia are good examples. White/arian supremisists are genetic defectives.
@Wiligot Alright - Aryans are genetic defectives and anyone who thinks they are superior is a fool. There is no such thing as racial superiority. Genetic mistakes are the cause of evolution. The defective melanin gene in the white population led to increased vitaminD production. Anyone who thinks that genetic defects lead to a belief that there is no such thing as racial superiority is a fool as they clearly have no understanding of genetics, evolution, neuroscience or psychology
@MrNm01 You claim that you are not supporting ANY racial superiority myth, but however, you support the newly founded myth of "Aryan inferiority". It's a mere replacement of stories with the same hiden cause.
However, you don't have answer WHY those "superior Zulu's" are not the ones having cannons and rifles but the "geneticaly inferior Aryans" ! Haha!
You NEVER have answers to questions like that. And YES, I know that the Chinese invented gunpowder, so don't bother with that retorics. :)
@Wiligot I said aryans were geneticly defective, not inferior, nor did I ever say that the zulus were superior. Technology developed faster in northern europe than in africa through necessity because of the harsher and more unpredictable climate. The zulus learned how to use guns pretty quickly once they were faced with the challenge of invading europeans with guns. Until then, they didn't need to so they didn't bother trying. Necessity is the mother of invention after all...
Pure Hollywood. The Zulu salute never happened.and the Brits didn't sing 'Men of Harlech'. Far from inevitable defeat and death - the Zulus major mistake was to disobey Cetshwayo's orders concerning attacking troops in fortified positions. Exhausted , the Zulus finally retreated when they saw Lord Chelmsford's column approaching. The roles WERE reversed - at Isandhlwana. In their battle frenzy, the Zulus stabbed to death every living creature. Even tins of bully beef were perforated.
@Zagyvaworld hahahah sure you are Nigger . your a Ngiger or a Race Traitor . Who cares The nigger has walked a area riched with dimonds and precious stones and massive plains but has not advanced beyond clicking with a stick . They are blessed with white masters who left their homeland evolved and sat on ice and built the rulers of the Earth
@TThorne931 Ha, you can't be for real! You have so much fear and hatred, are there really people like you still around? I'm flabbergasted. Love and light poor dear soul. x
@Zagyvaworld I don't fear Niggers what is to fear of thugs and criminals . Are you upset that blacks are a dying race in America their birthrate dosen't provide an upswing in their population well in 50 years there will be only 5% population black . And i don't hate the inferiority of the black race just scientifically our race is superior
i just hate the fact that shaka fell victim 2 the swallows! they fkd him out of land, diamond mines, ivory everything! 1 thing about it chaka had sum real 1s on his team! he just didnt take heed 2 theyre advice! till diss day we r still allowing da swallows 2 claim victory ova ourblack nation!! slave masta, da tyme shall cum when we have 2 blast ya!
cditti121 16 hours ago
Just appreciate the movie. None of you sound smart anyhow.
StrangerYouKnow 1 week ago
yeah zulus and no other african warriors sing a saluting chant to their enemy, thats just a stupid idea. If youve got the lungs to sing youve got the lungs to fight.
sexymalcom1970 2 weeks ago
Anyone who speak zulu or at least know this chant can please write a text both in zulu and english on what they are sayng, in aprticoular the motive they repeat from 1:58 . Thank you!
Lorscia 3 weeks ago
Im welsh, and i feel that the british were wrong to have ever invaded the Zululand, i think the zulu chants are truely amazing and show great respect towards the british in war even after what the british had done.
musiccomuk 1 month ago
@musiccomuk The British didn't invade Zululand, it was the other way around. The Zulus invaded the British Colony of Natal, an area of land claimed by no-one in which the borders were agreed peacefully..
The Zulus had been attacking Boer settlers (Dutch, not British) and the British ordered them to stop due to an Anglo-Dutch Treaty. When they didn't the British threatened action. The Zulus invaded Natal and attacked British garrisons. The Zulus were the aggressors, not the British.
Silverfox0984 1 month ago
@Silverfox0984 I never knew! thanks for clearing my clouded theory haha
musiccomuk 1 month ago
@Silverfox0984 The British Empire at the time comprised one third of the globe The Zulu Empire consisted of a patch of South Africa . I dont think the British can be entirely absolved from blame on the " Aggressor " point [
Gommerell 3 weeks ago
@Gommerell Nice Blackadder reference, but totally irrelevent here. The fact is the British were peaceful with the Zulus until they began attacking the colonists in Natal and the British intervened to stop them. The British had no interest in eradicating the Zulu kingdom. And also in 1879 the British Empire did not cover a quarter of the globe.
That feat was acheived in 1919.
Silverfox0984 3 weeks ago
@Silverfox0984 So without being Aggresive the British Ended up with Africa from Cairo to the Cape ? The British Could not let any rival live around them , think the constant Wars of the Empire
Before every war you get "Border Incidents ", America is looking for pretexts to attack Iraq this very day , Britain is sending Ships to the Falklands as we speak . You have to have "Border incidents " to justify invading a Country .
Gommerell 3 weeks ago
@Gommerell Point it the British did not bring about the events of the Zulu War. The borders between the Zulu Kingdom and British Colonies were agreed peacefully. Someone assumed the British were the aggressors in the Anglo-Zulu War. I pointed out this wasn't the case and that military action would have been avoided had the Zulu's agreed with Britain's demand to cease their attacks on the Boers and the Colonists.
African 'borders' were created BY Empire's, not around them.
Silverfox0984 3 weeks ago
@Silverfox0984 Did Sir Bartle Frere not make an ultimatum to the Zulus , of 20 points . effectively asking them to disband or be invaded ? The British were keen on the resource wealth of Africa , they could not have that jeopardised by a hostile native army 60,000 strong , So they provoked the War .
You could say that when two warlike races touch borders then war is inevitable .
Gommerell 3 weeks ago
@Gommerell So you believe a perceived provocation in the mindset of the Zulu's had of the British presence is a more justifiable reason for laying the blame with the British rather than the acts of murder, rape and violence the Zulu's committed against what were effectively farmers?
And on that note, i shall end this pointless discussion with you sir.
Silverfox0984 3 weeks ago
@Silverfox0984 You just see things in terms of Black and White , I see shades of Grey Attacking individual farmers was an effective strategy , especially if the farmers were away on a "Commando " raid themselves .Knowing that their homesteads were indanger would force the m to disperse quicker as opposed to charging the Commando head on and getting wiped out by rifles agaisnt cowhide shields . What would you do @Silver if the roles were reversed ?
Gommerell 3 weeks ago
@Gommerell I believe i have ended our discussion as it is detracting from it's original point. Someone made the incorrect assumption that he felt the British were 'wrong' to invade Zululand. I pointed out the British didn't 'invade' Zululand as they were attacked by the Zulu's first. Reasonings, gains, losses, ultimations and purpose can be argued either way but the simple fact remains; the Zulus were attacking colonists and Boers and the British told them to stop, hence the conflict.
Silverfox0984 3 weeks ago
@Gommerell The Boers, or "Kommandos" as you prefer to call them, were under the protection of the British as per the Anglo-Dutch Treaty. If anything you are suggesting that the ones who started the war were the Boers by instigating attacks on the Zulus who then retaliated against them.
Either way, the war was not the 'fault' of the British, was it, which was exactly my original point.
Silverfox0984 3 weeks ago
thay came saying,"no more curw"?
captmorgansarrr 2 months ago
@HarryHook, I suggest you check your history books!! The Battle of Rorkes Drift of which Zulu is about took place AFTER the massacre of the British Army at Isandhlwana!
hq37 2 months ago
@hq37 I gave no time-line and it is also not relevant to the point I was making...
HarryHook 2 months ago
Anyone who believes that whites are superior to blacks should first learn to spell and use correct grammar! I see nothing superior in those comments! White skin is the result of a mutation in the melanin gene that protects against UV. The same can be said of blonde hair. These traits are genetically recessive. This is why, historically, we (whites) only survived in regions away from the equator - Scandinavia and Northern Russia are good examples. White/arian supremisists are genetic defectives.
MrNm01 2 months ago
@MrNm01 actually, people like you are genetic defectives. You are trying to replace a racism with another racism? Not happening, wiger!
Wiligot 2 months ago
@Wiligot Alright - Aryans are genetic defectives and anyone who thinks they are superior is a fool. There is no such thing as racial superiority. Genetic mistakes are the cause of evolution. The defective melanin gene in the white population led to increased vitaminD production. Anyone who thinks that genetic defects lead to a belief that there is no such thing as racial superiority is a fool as they clearly have no understanding of genetics, evolution, neuroscience or psychology
MrNm01 2 months ago
@MrNm01 You claim that you are not supporting ANY racial superiority myth, but however, you support the newly founded myth of "Aryan inferiority". It's a mere replacement of stories with the same hiden cause.
However, you don't have answer WHY those "superior Zulu's" are not the ones having cannons and rifles but the "geneticaly inferior Aryans" ! Haha!
You NEVER have answers to questions like that. And YES, I know that the Chinese invented gunpowder, so don't bother with that retorics. :)
Wiligot 2 months ago
@Wiligot I said aryans were geneticly defective, not inferior, nor did I ever say that the zulus were superior. Technology developed faster in northern europe than in africa through necessity because of the harsher and more unpredictable climate. The zulus learned how to use guns pretty quickly once they were faced with the challenge of invading europeans with guns. Until then, they didn't need to so they didn't bother trying. Necessity is the mother of invention after all...
MrNm01 2 months ago
Pure Hollywood. The Zulu salute never happened.and the Brits didn't sing 'Men of Harlech'. Far from inevitable defeat and death - the Zulus major mistake was to disobey Cetshwayo's orders concerning attacking troops in fortified positions. Exhausted , the Zulus finally retreated when they saw Lord Chelmsford's column approaching. The roles WERE reversed - at Isandhlwana. In their battle frenzy, the Zulus stabbed to death every living creature. Even tins of bully beef were perforated.
HarryHook 3 months ago 11
@HarryHook Bullshit.
SuperDivvy1 2 months ago
@SuperDivvy1 NO... tins of bully beef.
HarryHook 2 months ago
@HarryHook Wanna see something hilarious. Watch the first scene of Gladiator...the Germanic Barbarians are using the Zulu War chant!!!
Proverbs1533 1 month ago
@HarryHook Man everyone blames Hollywood, even if it isn't a Hollywood production (such as this movie).
agamemnonn1 2 weeks ago
The white man shows so little honour and real courage in his actions. Cowardly greed, fear and control pervades his mentality.
Zagyvaworld 3 months ago
@Zagyvaworld go choake on a dick nigger
TThorne931 2 months ago
@TThorne931 I am not a 'nigger', I am a white man!!!!!.
Zagyvaworld 2 months ago
@Zagyvaworld hahahah sure you are Nigger . your a Ngiger or a Race Traitor . Who cares The nigger has walked a area riched with dimonds and precious stones and massive plains but has not advanced beyond clicking with a stick . They are blessed with white masters who left their homeland evolved and sat on ice and built the rulers of the Earth
TThorne931 2 months ago
@TThorne931 Ha, you can't be for real! You have so much fear and hatred, are there really people like you still around? I'm flabbergasted. Love and light poor dear soul. x
Zagyvaworld 2 months ago
@Zagyvaworld I don't fear Niggers what is to fear of thugs and criminals . Are you upset that blacks are a dying race in America their birthrate dosen't provide an upswing in their population well in 50 years there will be only 5% population black . And i don't hate the inferiority of the black race just scientifically our race is superior
TThorne931 2 months ago
@TThorne931 you zionists are funny...hahahaha.
kemetkush 3 weeks ago
@TThorne931 you don't know history
ImGonnaKillYou2nd 2 months ago
They should have just killed them instead of letting them take over.
DRPMRDREAM 7 months ago
great clip from a classic film.
PHONE275 1 year ago 7