may i interject,my son was born not looking the same as everyone else,consequentially his life was taken from him by (normal looking people)I will make it my lifes goal to try to make people understand we are all the same and yet different
@alecamal I agree with you. You see, through a series of circumstances, my brother has had a brain injury and epilepsy all his life. People judge him and say he can't do things, but he can.
You know, it was episodes like this one, that approached the kind of topic it did with candor, and with genuine heart, not to mention the stellar acting from Stewart and Spiner, that really made TNG the show it was.
He is a great robot, nothing more. He's not really alive, he's only programmed to act like he's alive, make many many more. If they made a robot that was programmed every time you squeezed it to say "don't hurt me" would you really think you were hurting it at all when squeezing it.
Picard didn't get owned. He simply had view point he wanted to share with data and upon understanding Data's position on the matter realized that there was no point in discussing it further.
Dude. Have you ever heard of this thing called a "Video Camera"? It captures images of electromagnetic waves so that they may be stored and played at a later time, usually using a thing called an "LCD screen" which are usually calibrated to display a small section of electromagnetic waves called "Visible Light".
the visor doesn't play you a movie, it plugs into the side of your face, communicating directly with your brain. and don't ask me why, but the stupid fucking thing can't translate the visible spectrum. what you see with that thing on is a blinding field of intense colors representing heat and a few types of radiation.
Geordie was born blind. His brain couldn't necessarily interpret normal visible light like a regular person from it. His VISOR picked up all light spectrums, radio spectrums, and more. It gave him better vision than a human, but left him unable to see like a normal human. You might describe this as a trade-off.
It also left him in constant pain, since the brain wasn't designed to accept data input from a device like it.
@Jumpingflashlight While it's true, that Geordi with VISOR didn't see the world like us (a visible light spectrum) and saw it - as SPeacock puts it - in a "predatorish" way (see Memory Alpha), it's interesting that in ST: Generations doctor Tholian Soran managed to modify Geordi's VISOR to transmit a recording of visible light to the ship's screen.
@CabhanListis It raises a question (which SaneReviews indirectly mentions) of why it wasn't possible for Geordi to see the visible light when VISOR was apparently able to process it. But I am sure someone would eventually think of some more or less acceptable explanation.
@Ceberuss While no explanation is given in the movie, of course, this is what covert monitoring devices have done for years. La Forge's VISOR transmits the light to his brain through its own channel. But the device Soran implants in the VISOR would necessarily encode the feed and transmit it in a frequency outside the VISOR's range. Since there is no limit to the wavelength of electromagnetic radiation, it is feasible for such a transmission to occur without his VISOR picking it up.
bravo data its what lincoln fought for in civil war and kennedy in 1960s equaulity for all not just some even if data is machine hes still a lifeform like the EMH in voyager they both are life forms treat them as such take that 24th century thumbs up for equality for all
TNG is always so inspiring. A big part of it is these two characters and actors, and of course the writers. Who knew so much philosophy, morality, humanity and ethics could be discovered on a starship traveling through the vast emptiness of deep space.
As many of the viewers here claim that they would change their eyes for a VISOR, I'd like to point out an episode, where Q gives Geordi natural eyes for a few moments and he is stunned how beautiful the world (and Tasha Yar specifically) looks like. So I guess technical superiority isn't everything.
@Ceberuss Good point. They probably think agreeing to something like that makes them advanced or something. Lol, that is what you call drones, perfect for borgs.
@goibee Data was being accosted by an aggressive inexperienced man-child scientist who thought if he took Data’s positronic brain apart he would be able to recreate it, thus putting a Data on the bridge of every federation starship. Fantastic episode.
That's one small comtuter screne. / Data was in the right. Had Starfleet said they owned him, then what would he say? Data said the perfect thing to get Picard's, "this isn't fair and I've got to do something about it" glands. :)
If I lived in the Star Trek society, and I had the proof that LaForge's VISOR actually was superior to human eyes, I would immediately get my eyes replaced with a VISOR. And if Picard asked me why, I'd reply: "I have the choice whether to transcend my human limits or not. There's no reason to choose not to."
@DevilMaster except everything you saw would be a blinding technicolor nightmare, y'know, like what the visor shows you. there's a reason laforge practically breaks down with joy any time someone uses an experiment or space magic to give him real eyesight. also remember that there are several episodes where his visor was broken or rendered inoperable where eyes would have suited him fine.
@riaAZ1997 It's not particularly funny, but he owns him by pointing out Picard's own I guess you could say biological chauvinism, his own prejudice or even bigotry. Later in the episode we see how Picard has accepted this as true, and modified his opinions. It's one of the reasons he's one of the few TNG characters who actually grew as a person over the course of the show.
Picard can feel and love and understand it in a whole.
Data has strength and can solve problems and has abilities.
data is a problem solving being..that knows human emotions..but cant express
picard can problem solve and doesnt require abilities cause he can feel n understand his emotions. I'd rather be human over a humanoid ANYDAY ,sorry data
Picard wasn't trying to convince Data to undergo the procedure. Infact, he opposed it. He was only playing the devil's advocate because he thought it was his duty.
I would replace my eyes with augmented cybernetic ones if I could. I personally think the old star trek is becoming dated. After all I bet I'm not the only one looking forward to the point in time when mechanical body replacements becomes an option.
@ArchivedFox I don't know if I'd go with a VISOR, though (yes, technically, it is an acronym), but it would be interesting to be able to replace your eyes with the ones that Geordi had in First Contact.
@ArchivedFox Maybe transhumanist ideas are more common thesedays.
To be honest, in hindsight i envied the Borg, and eventually disagreed with a lot of the naturalistic morals put forward in this show (although i suppose this episode is an exception).
But if i hadn't watched the show i'd have never thought about this shit.
So yeah, the show dated itself, simply by moving us forward.
@ArchivedFox there was a hardcopy version/episode where people had cybernetic implants in their fingers. They used these to communicate with [a computer network?] and since this was basically their lives, they did have the implants put in. Other than this, or a "only solution" option for health/sight/etc, I myself would tend to stay with my natural body the way it is.
@ArchivedFox you probably wouldn't think so after a week of staring into the incomprehensible predator vision that the visor gives you. have fun never seeing a physically attractive person ever again. or being able to watch youtube videos. or read
@SaneReviews "have fun never seeing a physically attractive person ever again"
Beauty is in the... err... eye of the beholder. Do you really care if your lover looks like the Mandelbrot Set as long as he or she gives you a woody?
Data is just pure awesome. There is no reason data can be anything but awesome. When he analyzing stuff, he makes an awkward situation more awkward, then hilarious.
Wasn't data mass produced? They ran into a rouge version of him in the t.v. show,then in i think nemesis the real data sacrificed himself to save picard.
@guybeleeve wouldn't call it mass produced. if you include nemesis there were 3 models, b4, lore, and data. but nemesis is dead to many a trek fan (i can put up with it) and b4 who was given data's knowledge apparently eventually became data according to the new trek comic/movie.
@guybeleeve no real reason for me to continue on this, but i felt i should mention that data's mother was the only android sung made that could be called a "production model" all the others were prototypes. and of course data's attempt at a daughter; lal could only be considered a prototype as well. now there was an ai in the series that was mass produced. the doctor from voyager was mass produced, and relegated to mining and other dirty and dangerous jobs instead of the function it was made for
@kght222 Holy crap i didn't know all that! You must be a real trek fan,i appreciate the info. I'm thinking about playing the Star Trek online game,i need to get more of the books to know more about the world of star trek.
I'd say this scene was more interesting and thought prokoving than it is funny. Also you can see that because of Data's comments this is the start of Picard's defence of android rights as shown later on in this episode and "The offspring" as well.
Data owns everybody in TNG, but I wonder if he could own the majestic Kirk. Knowing hom many computers Kirk distroyed only by discussing with them, I'm afraid Data would loose. But, on the other hand, kirk wouldn't ask Data what Picard did.
@msinvincible2000 Kirk computer record:Outsmarted the Enterprise Computer when it got intelligent and became a practical joker. Outsmarted the M-5 Super-Computer.
@msinvincible2000 lmao. kirk is about as majestic as a drunk 3 legged bull in a swan costume. there's no computer he could outsmart without the writers being his fanboys.
The strength of this scene is predicated on the fact that Picard did not take the larger view and Data pointed it out to him. His "frustration" at the end of it is not with Data but in his own shortcomings for not seeing the obvious truth in the first place.
They are simply referring to replacement. If humans aren't willing to replace their eyes then why should Data be replaced by other versions of himself. The answer is we are to unwilling to do it for ourselves because we are selfish and not willing to loose our humanity for such a change but we are inhuman in asking for an android to undertake in the very same principal. Not that Data wouldn't do this, just that he has the right to choose. All the more proving that he is sentient.
@awesomeinuyashagirl you did nothing wrong kid....your totally right. Data explained as well as revealed Picards short shortsightedness and hypocritical behavior in this vid. Good job.
@KinaNafasi And there's a reason that Picard values Data's input (lol input.) His near childlike perspective of the world lets him see situations from the most logical and rational of positions, emotionlessness.
@awesomeinuyashagirl modern vernacular set aside, i think mangledmonkey might have had a slight point, this whole episode was about the owning of sentient beings, yet you title this as data owning picard, the opposite of what this episode represents. although i do agree that data made a great point in this scene, one that forced picard to start to realize what he was really dealing with.
@awesomeinuyashagirl modern vernacular set aside, i think mangledmonkey might have had a slight point, this whole episode was about the owning of sentient beings, yet you title this as data owning picard, the opposite of what this episode represents. although i do agree that data made a great point in this scene, one that forced picard to start to realize what he was really dealing with.
in this episode some science officer wanted to dissasemble(kill) data to find out how he works. So picard had to prove in court that data is sentient.
@Mropticalgreen I saw that episode. They couldn't prove he was sentient, but they did prove he was intelligent and self aware enough to have the same rights as humans and that he was not just the property of Starfleet.
@iammadness You can't, because when you manufacture something you know exactly what is going to come out at the end. All kids are unpredictable, and not fully controllable (some are completely uncontrollable).
@mostliberal WEll you got to lay down the law when they are young. Let them know what sort of behavior is unacceptable and if they don't listen you take away privileges and favorite toys. No child starts out uncontrollable. People are just unwilling to discipline anymore.
@iammadness Actually, my parents tried all that shit with me, and I NEVER listened to them. If I had nothing to do because they took my stuff, I would just sit and stare at the walls rather than do homework. I just despised authority so much that I disobeyed them out of spite, regardless of what the consequences were. When I was in kindergarten (and before) I was already beating up my parents in their sleep.
@DeathAngel0208 the whole episode is about whether or not Data is a sentient being. Picard starts to think that he is just machine. Data retaliates and states that if he were human, they wouldn't be going through this. Does that make sense?
@awesomeinuyashagirl This really make sense, this whole episode is about how can we judge what is right to do with life... how we can be sure to identify life... what can we do with life?
@DeathAngel0208 y did u dislike my video? just because u don't get it doesn't mean u have to dislike it when everyone else understands the awesomeness of what is data owning picard.
@awesomeinuyashagirl Picard wasn't owned, only Starfleet's point-of-view on this subject was. Picard was actually on Data's side from beginning to end.
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britters220 5 days ago
@sendahoejust1
He was alive. When he gained emotions Deanna could sense them. Meaning he is literally alive in a way that they couldnt explain scientifically.
crazipyro 1 week ago
may i interject,my son was born not looking the same as everyone else,consequentially his life was taken from him by (normal looking people)I will make it my lifes goal to try to make people understand we are all the same and yet different
alecamal 1 week ago 2
@alecamal I agree with you. You see, through a series of circumstances, my brother has had a brain injury and epilepsy all his life. People judge him and say he can't do things, but he can.
awesomeinuyashagirl 1 week ago 2
@awesomeinuyashagirl I so badly want to give you a hug
alecamal 1 week ago
@alecamal dang it my face is leaking
alecamal 1 week ago
You know, it was episodes like this one, that approached the kind of topic it did with candor, and with genuine heart, not to mention the stellar acting from Stewart and Spiner, that really made TNG the show it was.
CaitiVoltaire 2 weeks ago 5
I have thought about the same question Data asks, but more specifically why Geordi prefers his own eyes.
BenjaminWirtz 2 weeks ago
He is a great robot, nothing more. He's not really alive, he's only programmed to act like he's alive, make many many more. If they made a robot that was programmed every time you squeezed it to say "don't hurt me" would you really think you were hurting it at all when squeezing it.
sendahojust1 2 weeks ago 2
Strong argument against racism. Star Trek at its best!
FH1987 2 weeks ago
@FH1987 - Yes, arguement against racism or ANY kind of prejudice - with double standards.
ChuckyDoll10 2 weeks ago
TROLOLOL!
AdoBucky 3 weeks ago
yea but picard fought for him during the trial and owned everyone in the room including the judge!
Kunglao63 3 weeks ago
there are no shows that address such complex problems anymore, at least, not with a genuine attitude
rad4life1 3 weeks ago
1:27 "Fuck me this guy is difficult"
Boobr 3 weeks ago
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Boobr 3 weeks ago
Picard's like, "Shit....he just backed me into an inescapable corner!"
kickass21ful 3 weeks ago
The Borg answer to that question: cybernetic eyes for everyone! Hooray!
TheAle89515 1 month ago 12
@TheAle89515
You just want em so you don't go blind!!!
willthiswork100 4 weeks ago
Picard didn't get owned. He simply had view point he wanted to share with data and upon understanding Data's position on the matter realized that there was no point in discussing it further.
xNikolai 1 month ago
@xNikolai um or he's an inconsiderate bald c*nt
genericusername337 1 month ago
@genericusername337 Aw, hell no! You did NOT just go there!
kickass21ful 3 weeks ago
@xNikolai actually that was the point where he realised he was wrong IIRC.
emelianenkoo 3 weeks ago
excellent episode. season 2: "the measure of a man".
noahtron 1 month ago
data krupa
cotillion 1 month ago 2
OWNED! lol
DeltaReconnaissance 2 months ago
@SaneReviews
Dude. Have you ever heard of this thing called a "Video Camera"? It captures images of electromagnetic waves so that they may be stored and played at a later time, usually using a thing called an "LCD screen" which are usually calibrated to display a small section of electromagnetic waves called "Visible Light".
Jumpingflashlight 2 months ago
@Jumpingflashlight
the visor doesn't play you a movie, it plugs into the side of your face, communicating directly with your brain. and don't ask me why, but the stupid fucking thing can't translate the visible spectrum. what you see with that thing on is a blinding field of intense colors representing heat and a few types of radiation.
SaneReviews 2 months ago 2
@SaneReviews A bit like the Predator, really.
SPeacock 1 month ago
@SaneReviews
Geordie was born blind. His brain couldn't necessarily interpret normal visible light like a regular person from it. His VISOR picked up all light spectrums, radio spectrums, and more. It gave him better vision than a human, but left him unable to see like a normal human. You might describe this as a trade-off.
It also left him in constant pain, since the brain wasn't designed to accept data input from a device like it.
Draknfyre 1 month ago
@Jumpingflashlight While it's true, that Geordi with VISOR didn't see the world like us (a visible light spectrum) and saw it - as SPeacock puts it - in a "predatorish" way (see Memory Alpha), it's interesting that in ST: Generations doctor Tholian Soran managed to modify Geordi's VISOR to transmit a recording of visible light to the ship's screen.
Ceberuss 1 month ago
@Ceberuss Why is that interesting to you?
CabhanListis 1 month ago
@CabhanListis It raises a question (which SaneReviews indirectly mentions) of why it wasn't possible for Geordi to see the visible light when VISOR was apparently able to process it. But I am sure someone would eventually think of some more or less acceptable explanation.
Ceberuss 1 month ago
@Ceberuss While no explanation is given in the movie, of course, this is what covert monitoring devices have done for years. La Forge's VISOR transmits the light to his brain through its own channel. But the device Soran implants in the VISOR would necessarily encode the feed and transmit it in a frequency outside the VISOR's range. Since there is no limit to the wavelength of electromagnetic radiation, it is feasible for such a transmission to occur without his VISOR picking it up.
CabhanListis 1 month ago
Superb acting, superb writing. Modern TV is so pathetic compared to this.
rbnn 2 months ago 48
@rbnn *My Little pony...*
KimmyRose12 2 weeks ago
@KimmyRose12
Fascinating. These are two of the only shows I watch today. There must be a connection, and I believe it to be "Quality".
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britters220 5 days ago
bravo data its what lincoln fought for in civil war and kennedy in 1960s equaulity for all not just some even if data is machine hes still a lifeform like the EMH in voyager they both are life forms treat them as such take that 24th century thumbs up for equality for all
kellyberry 2 months ago
TNG is always so inspiring. A big part of it is these two characters and actors, and of course the writers. Who knew so much philosophy, morality, humanity and ethics could be discovered on a starship traveling through the vast emptiness of deep space.
dewfall56 2 months ago 3
@dewfall56 Yeah, for me, it's the best movie when it comes to these qualities you just said. That's what I like the most about this movie.
Raptorel 2 months ago
One word: Powerful.
MartialArtsfreestyle 2 months ago 2
As many of the viewers here claim that they would change their eyes for a VISOR, I'd like to point out an episode, where Q gives Geordi natural eyes for a few moments and he is stunned how beautiful the world (and Tasha Yar specifically) looks like. So I guess technical superiority isn't everything.
Ceberuss 2 months ago
@Ceberuss Good point. They probably think agreeing to something like that makes them advanced or something. Lol, that is what you call drones, perfect for borgs.
MartialArtsfreestyle 2 months ago
what was the context of this conversation? What procedure was Data being made subject to?
goibee 2 months ago
@goibee Data was being accosted by an aggressive inexperienced man-child scientist who thought if he took Data’s positronic brain apart he would be able to recreate it, thus putting a Data on the bridge of every federation starship. Fantastic episode.
fatbackmigee 2 months ago 3
I wonder how Spock would have responded to Mr Data.
GMAN95120 2 months ago
Keep pressing 8.
This is most you'll ever see Picard get owned.
aeopmusic 3 months ago
That's one small comtuter screne. / Data was in the right. Had Starfleet said they owned him, then what would he say? Data said the perfect thing to get Picard's, "this isn't fair and I've got to do something about it" glands. :)
Songsmirth 3 months ago
If I lived in the Star Trek society, and I had the proof that LaForge's VISOR actually was superior to human eyes, I would immediately get my eyes replaced with a VISOR. And if Picard asked me why, I'd reply: "I have the choice whether to transcend my human limits or not. There's no reason to choose not to."
DevilMaster 3 months ago
@DevilMaster Thats borg mentality. Sacrifice all natural attributes at will for the sake of perfection.
acesneeks 3 months ago
@acesneeks The Borg also sacrifice individuality. I wouldn't.
DevilMaster 3 months ago
@DevilMaster except everything you saw would be a blinding technicolor nightmare, y'know, like what the visor shows you. there's a reason laforge practically breaks down with joy any time someone uses an experiment or space magic to give him real eyesight. also remember that there are several episodes where his visor was broken or rendered inoperable where eyes would have suited him fine.
SaneReviews 2 months ago
Such a well written scene.
"The best interest of Star Fleet" huh? well take that, picard!
Archedgar 3 months ago
and a massive dose of infallible logic just got dropped like a ten ton load of bricks.
gaptoofgranny 3 months ago
Shut up! That's why!
themixedarts 3 months ago
SNAP! lol
Sillygoose14111 3 months ago
fuckin' owned!
theoneandonlytony 3 months ago
Sure, I'd go for cybernetic eyes
ytmndman 3 months ago
@ytmndman I'd go for the eyes, too, IF I were blind with no other solution. Give up my natural sight? Nope.
KECOG 2 months ago
@awesomeinuyashagirl i don't understand.....how is this "owning" him? or funny? not trying to be mean, i just don't understand. :/
riaAZ1997 3 months ago
@riaAZ1997 It's not particularly funny, but he owns him by pointing out Picard's own I guess you could say biological chauvinism, his own prejudice or even bigotry. Later in the episode we see how Picard has accepted this as true, and modified his opinions. It's one of the reasons he's one of the few TNG characters who actually grew as a person over the course of the show.
davenielsen78 3 months ago 4
Valid point, Mr. Data. All human personnel report to the medical bay immediately!
SocialistCatgirl 4 months ago 98
@SocialistCatgirl after watching: oh, I get it now. have a thumbs up.
Freelancerk1bbles 2 weeks ago
Picard: Well we seem to have a problem.
Normal persons reaction: NO SHIT MAN I GONNA DIE!
Data's reaction: I find myself in complete agreement with that statement, sir.
Seriously, i know he acts as a machine (as in he still is a man in RL) but he does sometimes scare me xD
LichexJenkins 4 months ago
Picard can feel and love and understand it in a whole.
Data has strength and can solve problems and has abilities.
data is a problem solving being..that knows human emotions..but cant express
picard can problem solve and doesnt require abilities cause he can feel n understand his emotions. I'd rather be human over a humanoid ANYDAY ,sorry data
aaronsamuel84 4 months ago
Picard wasn't trying to convince Data to undergo the procedure. Infact, he opposed it. He was only playing the devil's advocate because he thought it was his duty.
justnofreakingway 4 months ago 3
WillRennar - If only Q showed up for a sec JUST to say that phrase... my life would've been complete... and I'd have died laughing!
Barragansama 4 months ago
very funny??
kryo101 4 months ago
I would replace my eyes with augmented cybernetic ones if I could. I personally think the old star trek is becoming dated. After all I bet I'm not the only one looking forward to the point in time when mechanical body replacements becomes an option.
ArchivedFox 4 months ago 2
@ArchivedFox I don't know if I'd go with a VISOR, though (yes, technically, it is an acronym), but it would be interesting to be able to replace your eyes with the ones that Geordi had in First Contact.
Kelvari7882 4 months ago
@ArchivedFox Maybe transhumanist ideas are more common thesedays.
To be honest, in hindsight i envied the Borg, and eventually disagreed with a lot of the naturalistic morals put forward in this show (although i suppose this episode is an exception).
But if i hadn't watched the show i'd have never thought about this shit.
So yeah, the show dated itself, simply by moving us forward.
roidroid 3 months ago
@ArchivedFox there was a hardcopy version/episode where people had cybernetic implants in their fingers. They used these to communicate with [a computer network?] and since this was basically their lives, they did have the implants put in. Other than this, or a "only solution" option for health/sight/etc, I myself would tend to stay with my natural body the way it is.
KECOG 2 months ago
@ArchivedFox you probably wouldn't think so after a week of staring into the incomprehensible predator vision that the visor gives you. have fun never seeing a physically attractive person ever again. or being able to watch youtube videos. or read
SaneReviews 2 months ago
@SaneReviews "have fun never seeing a physically attractive person ever again"
Beauty is in the... err... eye of the beholder. Do you really care if your lover looks like the Mandelbrot Set as long as he or she gives you a woody?
sbergman27 2 months ago
owned by logic....
asuraizen 4 months ago
Check and mate, mon capitan.
WillRennar 4 months ago 6
1:27 Picard: "shiiiieeeeeeettttttttt"
TANODRODCOD 4 months ago
Data shud have said mmmmmhmmmmm thot soz
...
mrkitkatz 4 months ago
Foocking PWNED!
Keurosaur 4 months ago 2
Fucking owned bitch.
Davifflaelan2 4 months ago 2
I don't think this is funny; I think it's incredibly profound.
pce789 4 months ago 190
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@pce789
That because you do not get the clue....;)
Secondlifecreator 4 months ago
@pce789 Much of Star Trek was you are right.
LordHannigan 3 months ago
@pce789 It is. Something doesn't have to be funny to qualify as someone being "owned".
PokerJoker811 3 months ago
@pce789 This has always been one of my favorite Star Trek TNG episodes.
TJSerabian 2 months ago
This was a great episode. TNG is my favorite of all the TV versions.
ohsnapitsme59 4 months ago
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Turbokiller621 4 months ago
Hee hee hee... He didn't like that, did he?
dewhistle 4 months ago
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! #TeamData
SkyJackpot 4 months ago
Data: "I see" .... i could almost hear the hand slapping picard across the face.
Tiberius wouldntve taken shit from a robot O.O
crippledfetus 4 months ago
Data is just pure awesome. There is no reason data can be anything but awesome. When he analyzing stuff, he makes an awkward situation more awkward, then hilarious.
GreenLanternSalem 5 months ago
Season Two is horrible. This episode was no exception.
FPSWordle 5 months ago
@FPSWordle wow. you seem to have confused opinion with fact, but never mind.
dorianleakey 4 months ago
FUCKING BOOM data drops the bomb
calais173 5 months ago
This is my all-time favorite episode of any Star Trek series. Three major bridge officers all have Crowning Moments of Awesome in the same hour.
SimuLord 5 months ago 2
Don’t sas me android.
asuch874 5 months ago
touche, and food for thought to boot. nicely done, Data
CassandraMotou 5 months ago
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Owned.
Shainingu 5 months ago
Wasn't data mass produced? They ran into a rouge version of him in the t.v. show,then in i think nemesis the real data sacrificed himself to save picard.
guybeleeve 5 months ago
@guybeleeve wouldn't call it mass produced. if you include nemesis there were 3 models, b4, lore, and data. but nemesis is dead to many a trek fan (i can put up with it) and b4 who was given data's knowledge apparently eventually became data according to the new trek comic/movie.
kght222 5 months ago
@kght222 thanks for clearing that up for me.
guybeleeve 5 months ago
@guybeleeve no real reason for me to continue on this, but i felt i should mention that data's mother was the only android sung made that could be called a "production model" all the others were prototypes. and of course data's attempt at a daughter; lal could only be considered a prototype as well. now there was an ai in the series that was mass produced. the doctor from voyager was mass produced, and relegated to mining and other dirty and dangerous jobs instead of the function it was made for
kght222 5 months ago
@kght222 Holy crap i didn't know all that! You must be a real trek fan,i appreciate the info. I'm thinking about playing the Star Trek online game,i need to get more of the books to know more about the world of star trek.
guybeleeve 5 months ago
somewhow i dont think the Picard we knew from later seasons would have ever suggested Data submit to that procedure.
ocerg1111 5 months ago
owneeddddd
deathbycattle 5 months ago
Well data did get pwned by picard once when Data overlooked Picard's French patriotism in another clip I just saw.
mattwo7 5 months ago
Android burn!
Kemkle33 5 months ago
epic ownage, data ftw
SRT480 5 months ago
i like when data owns spock with logic, was beautiful.
tuseroni 5 months ago
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lol You twerp! Making someone realize something is not "owning" someone.
Strome88 5 months ago
What episode was this?
volcan2day 5 months ago
@volcan2day The Measure of Man from Season 2.
awesomeinuyashagirl 5 months ago 11
@volcan2day you should be ashamed for even having to ask, this ep is classic
talaxian1 3 months ago
This is one of my favorite episodes. This and the one with Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra. Actually probably one of the Q episodes actually nevermind.
himethisisme 5 months ago
rape face xD 0:48
IceHyorinmaru 5 months ago
I'd say this scene was more interesting and thought prokoving than it is funny. Also you can see that because of Data's comments this is the start of Picard's defence of android rights as shown later on in this episode and "The offspring" as well.
mummra4ever 5 months ago 2
@mummra4ever agreed.
SNICKERFACED 5 months ago
oh yea, he owned him
DrFraud666 5 months ago
what episode
guy27677 6 months ago
@guy27677 Measure of a Man
TonySeptim 5 months ago
Fail again, Picard.
DarthRushy 6 months ago
Data owns everybody in TNG, but I wonder if he could own the majestic Kirk. Knowing hom many computers Kirk distroyed only by discussing with them, I'm afraid Data would loose. But, on the other hand, kirk wouldn't ask Data what Picard did.
msinvincible2000 6 months ago
@msinvincible2000 Kirk computer record:Outsmarted the Enterprise Computer when it got intelligent and became a practical joker. Outsmarted the M-5 Super-Computer.
DarthRushy 6 months ago
@msinvincible2000 lmao. kirk is about as majestic as a drunk 3 legged bull in a swan costume. there's no computer he could outsmart without the writers being his fanboys.
waldoman7 5 months ago
@msinvincible2000 Your right that's not what kirk would do. Kirk would of just said fuck off to the cybernetics guy
guy27677 5 months ago
@guy27677 well kirk is the reason there arent any androids left in the star trek universe by TNG, he kept making their heads explode.
tuseroni 5 months ago
Nobody owns picard. If you defeat a point in argument he learns from it - thus he always wins....
dinosaurssayni 6 months ago 2
The strength of this scene is predicated on the fact that Picard did not take the larger view and Data pointed it out to him. His "frustration" at the end of it is not with Data but in his own shortcomings for not seeing the obvious truth in the first place.
LeCutter 6 months ago 2
Smart writers!
dacloo 6 months ago
They are simply referring to replacement. If humans aren't willing to replace their eyes then why should Data be replaced by other versions of himself. The answer is we are to unwilling to do it for ourselves because we are selfish and not willing to loose our humanity for such a change but we are inhuman in asking for an android to undertake in the very same principal. Not that Data wouldn't do this, just that he has the right to choose. All the more proving that he is sentient.
Jedistarship 6 months ago
Problem is that you could explain the context a little better, perhaps in the text.
Perhaps I'll "like" your video then ;)
LuisManuelLealDias 6 months ago
"Because fuck you, Data. That's why."
"Understood, Captain."
NuggetPumpkin 6 months ago
I want my cybernetic implants!
highwind8124 6 months ago
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Hey, youre an idiot. Awesomeinuyashagirl...
mangledmonkey 6 months ago
@mangledmonkey what did I do wrong? Data owns Picard in this vid.
awesomeinuyashagirl 6 months ago 32
@awesomeinuyashagirl you did nothing wrong kid....your totally right. Data explained as well as revealed Picards short shortsightedness and hypocritical behavior in this vid. Good job.
KinaNafasi 6 months ago
@KinaNafasi And there's a reason that Picard values Data's input (lol input.) His near childlike perspective of the world lets him see situations from the most logical and rational of positions, emotionlessness.
ZeDingoBlag 6 months ago
@ZeDingoBlag totally agree.
KinaNafasi 6 months ago
@awesomeinuyashagirl
Perhaps mangledmonkey is a transhumanist and thinks our biological makeup should be replaced with superior units, technology permitting.
For the record, I'm a transhumanist too, but I don't consider you an idiot.
BohemianBlasphemy 6 months ago
@awesomeinuyashagirl modern vernacular set aside, i think mangledmonkey might have had a slight point, this whole episode was about the owning of sentient beings, yet you title this as data owning picard, the opposite of what this episode represents. although i do agree that data made a great point in this scene, one that forced picard to start to realize what he was really dealing with.
kght222 5 months ago
@awesomeinuyashagirl modern vernacular set aside, i think mangledmonkey might have had a slight point, this whole episode was about the owning of sentient beings, yet you title this as data owning picard, the opposite of what this episode represents. although i do agree that data made a great point in this scene, one that forced picard to start to realize what he was really dealing with.
kght222 5 months ago
@mangledmonkey Grammatical fail.
bigpyro1618 6 months ago
xd. nothing more.
bamahacker01 6 months ago
data is trolling
zmatokan 6 months ago
in this episode some science officer wanted to dissasemble(kill) data to find out how he works. So picard had to prove in court that data is sentient.
Mropticalgreen 7 months ago
@Mropticalgreen I saw that episode. They couldn't prove he was sentient, but they did prove he was intelligent and self aware enough to have the same rights as humans and that he was not just the property of Starfleet.
Calriec 6 months ago
But data IS just a machine.
peronkop 7 months ago
@peronkop
So are humans. Just not made of metal and plastic...
Yonkage 7 months ago
@Yonkage I think a machine has to be defined as something manufactured.
peronkop 7 months ago
@peronkop
Manufactured by what?
Yonkage 7 months ago
@peronkop Could you argue we are manufactured by our parents?
iammadness 7 months ago 3
@iammadness You can't, because when you manufacture something you know exactly what is going to come out at the end. All kids are unpredictable, and not fully controllable (some are completely uncontrollable).
mostliberal 6 months ago
@mostliberal WEll you got to lay down the law when they are young. Let them know what sort of behavior is unacceptable and if they don't listen you take away privileges and favorite toys. No child starts out uncontrollable. People are just unwilling to discipline anymore.
iammadness 6 months ago
@iammadness Actually, my parents tried all that shit with me, and I NEVER listened to them. If I had nothing to do because they took my stuff, I would just sit and stare at the walls rather than do homework. I just despised authority so much that I disobeyed them out of spite, regardless of what the consequences were. When I was in kindergarten (and before) I was already beating up my parents in their sleep.
mostliberal 6 months ago
@mostliberal I went to my room and read my books. Seems my mom didn't feel like clearing out my room every single time.
iammadness 6 months ago
@mostliberal
Actually, you are manufactured by your parents up until your birth it is called gestation.
MarxIzalias 5 months ago
@peronkop
See the entire episode...
AnteyPL 7 months ago
I dont get it...
DeathAngel0208 1 year ago
@DeathAngel0208 the whole episode is about whether or not Data is a sentient being. Picard starts to think that he is just machine. Data retaliates and states that if he were human, they wouldn't be going through this. Does that make sense?
awesomeinuyashagirl 1 year ago 24
@awesomeinuyashagirl Probably one of the best episodes of the Second Season.
goji2099 7 months ago
@awesomeinuyashagirl your name is under this... smart one... it's even under... "uploader comments" smart one... -_-
BlackOrder0208 7 months ago
@awesomeinuyashagirl This really make sense, this whole episode is about how can we judge what is right to do with life... how we can be sure to identify life... what can we do with life?
luizfcavalcanti 4 months ago
@awesomeinuyashagirl Picard should've responded "No shit, Sherlock". Data should be called Captain Obvious.
PeeboTyson 4 months ago
@DeathAngel0208 y did u dislike my video? just because u don't get it doesn't mean u have to dislike it when everyone else understands the awesomeness of what is data owning picard.
awesomeinuyashagirl 7 months ago 27
@awesomeinuyashagirl Picard wasn't owned, only Starfleet's point-of-view on this subject was. Picard was actually on Data's side from beginning to end.
SweetZombiJesus 5 months ago 2
@awesomeinuyashagirl
The whole point of the dislike button is to let people know that you didn't like something - whether you're the minority or not.
GordonMckendrick 5 months ago
@awesomeinuyashagirl Nothing wrong with disliking something. The world is full of "Like" buttons. It's okay, not to like something too.
strikerk 5 months ago 51
@awesomeinuyashagirl I wonder where's the owning part...I expected something with more attitude.
JohnACorp782 4 months ago 2
@DeathAngel0208
This *ingenious* episode is titled "The Measure Of Man" - make sure you see it. 45 min of well invested time in life.
AnteyPL 7 months ago