Disney's Zorro - 1x13 - The Fall of Monastario (3)

[IheartZorro]

From 1:42 - 1:55: Monastario committing classic statistical Type I error. I'm trying to figure out how I can use this video in my stats class.

[IheartZorro]

I don't see de la Vega/Zorro with a sword when the prisoner is brought into the inn in part 2, but the lancer/Zorro hands de la Vega a sword in this part. It is the lancer/Zorro who hands the sword and glove, isn't it?

[SJBruun]

Monastario forever alone

[SamDIngraham]

6:03 Curiously an ornamental knife went missing from the de la Vega hacienda.

[lindalds]

If the ViceRoy's son went to university with Don Diego, he must have known about his excellent swordsmanship. I think that the Vice Roy knew that Diego was quite probably Zorro, but since he knew already that the Capitan was crooked, he played along to keep anyone from finding out about who Zorro really is.

[TehJew22]

At 2:46.

Monastario: "You have made a fool of me once to Often."

Diego: "You give me too much credit Commadante. It takes no skill at all to make a fool of you".

[Torie3593]

When Garcia said that Monastario wasn't handsome I thought that was so funny!

[Blackadder125]

The duel was pretty good, but still rather anticlimactic. I'll miss Monastario and his awesome beard.

[LINX29X92]

zorro is like the mexican batman

[AutobotNutcase]

Hang on! I just paid attention to the ending credits for this episode.  The viceroy was played by John Dehner. If there's anyone here who listens to the Boxcars711 Old Time Radio Podcast, or to Andrew Rhynes' Old Time Radio Westerns, you'll know that John Dehner played the voice of Paladin on the show "Have Gun, Will Travel." Every week, he'd ride around, solving other people's problems and trying not to fire a shot. He (Paladin) was often paid $1000/mission (although some he did for free).

[jon4de]

Good for Garcia he make a wonderful Captain

[jmaxlee]

Nice Barnardo got Monastario in trouble

[hecate235]

4:08 An alternate explanation of "Diego knows what he is doing."

As the challenged, Diego has the right to choose the time and with what weapons. Maybe the viceroy means Diego has a reason for accepting immediately. (Though swords would pretty much be a given. Bullwhips? Poetry readings?)

If the viceroy and daughter know Diego from Spain, then, yes, they have to know of his talent with a blade. But that alone wouldn't mean he is Zorro -- and the viceroy seems relieved when "Zorro" shows up.

[taxmangal]

@hecate235 Truthfully, the interpetation is that Don Esteban knows Diego is an excellent swordsman thus when he said that Diego knows what he is doing, he meant that he knows Diego would not put himself in danger. Also, it is quite obvious that they are close friends so the Viceroy knows Diego is probably Zorro but doesn't care as he acts for the good of the government and the people and truely is not an "outlaw".

[PaulosTheKing]

Viceroy kind of set De La Vega up......

[lisalovemusical]

I wonder who wrote the note of Zorro... Bernardo cannot write, right?

[asmodeus585]

@lisalovemusical: The same question sprung to my mind. At that time it would be very strange for a servant to possess such skill. So it must be an error in the storyline. Assuming Don Alejandro already knew his son's secret, it could be him who wrote the note. However, he isn't mentioned in this episode at all and Diego doesn't seem to be much surprised by the note either.

[IheartZorro]

@asmodeus585 Faulty logic. No storyline error needed. The fact that *most* servants were illiterate does not mean *all* were. Bernardo is intelligent in the series. He could have picked up a smattering of literacy, perhaps even from Diego. V. Hugo had Jean Valjean learn his letters while in prison about the same era in France. Some bright people even learn to read on their own. Mostly miming rather than writing shows off Sheldon's miming skills. *And* leaves no incriminating notes to destroy.

[asmodeus585]

@IheartZorro: I don't care if Bernardo could write or not, the only ones who really knew it were the scriptwriters, I guess. Anyway, there are lots of episodes in which Bernardo struggles to explain to Diego what he means by making various gestures. Wouldn't it be more convenient for him to just jot down a note, instead of wasting thime this way, especially when the matter was rather urgent?

[IheartZorro]

@asmodeus585 Yeah, probably, but I think the scriptwriters' intentions weren't about convenience here, but showcasing Sheldon's miming skills, and adding suspense and a little humor as Diego (and we) try to figure out what Bernardo means. There is the added problem of destroying any such little notes, which often would be evidence that Diego is Zorro. I think another main reason is that that delay keeps *us* on the edge of our seats in an urgent situation, as well: will Zorro make it in time?

[asmodeus585]

@IheartZorro: Very true, but it doesn't change the fact that the script is not entirely coherent, therefore we could say that it is a (very) minor mistake as there is no relevant explanation as to why Bernardo does the miming instead of writing notes (other than to entertain us). Anyway, I don't think there would be any problem with destroying the notes, as paper is highly flammable. ;)

[IheartZorro]

@asmodeus585 This show takes artistic license with lots of things - quick Zorro changes, for example, plus the usual coincidences. It doesn't bother me that they chose to showcase Sheldon's miming skills. I disagree about the notes not being a potential problem. All it takes is one note to get into the bad guys' hands. There's always that interruption: the note is put into a pocket and forgotten, or a gust of wind to blow it away . Miming is safer *and* more entertaining - not a mistake.

[kelincihutan]

@asmodeus585 That's assuming he had access to a (sharpened) quill, an inkwell, a supply of paper, and a writing surface wherever he went. It's not like people could grab a Bic and a Post-It in 1820. Supposing Bernardo can read and write, he would still need to sign more often than not because writing out a message would have taken longer than signing.

[asmodeus585]

@kelincihutan: Diego certainly did. In many episodes, where Diego and Bernardo are both "chatting" in the De La Vega's house Bernardo is having trouble explaining something to Diego, while the pen and paper are just at hand. ; )

[MO123rules]

@lisalovemusical I don't know. Do they say that in an episode? He's a pretty unique servant.

[RoronoaEmi]

"you find me… attractive?"

YESPLEASE!! :D <3 <3

[coralin378]

lol wow no one slaps Diego like that!

Monastario was getting desperate

[ImpromptuinC]

How is it possible to DISLIKE  this series???? ("2 dislikes")

[coralin378]

@TheRosaLee23

I saw that too! :D

[Lutchenka4]

Bem bonitão esse Monastário!!!

[cherry1311]

@Lutchenka4 concordo plenamente ;)

[Laffington]

This is my favorite of all the Zorro series. Guy WIlliams will always be Zorro to me.

[mustang1492]

I liked zorro better with the monastario than with the Eagle.. but I love the show anyway! I wish it was still on tv!

[darkness2falls]

"I will force you to reveal yourself!"

"What? As a poor swordsman, well everyone knows that!"

The greatest lines in the series so far

[ultimateSpagety]

love garcia "if I was a woman and fat like this I wouldn't be particular"

[PDVSC]

Monastario is the only best Zorro's villain!!

I love her personality like Cruella De Vil and Claude Frollo!!

How sad, he got written out because he was TOO good at his part...

[mynameistomilk]

GO BERNARDO!

[childhoodcontinues]

at 4:08 the vicroy says "Diego knows what he is doing." he says earlier that his son knew Diego in Spain (where the 1st episode says Diego was afecing champ). the vicroy should know then that Diego can fence. shouldn't this scene have been far more awkward?

[lindalds]

@childhoodcontinues He said he already had enough evidence against Monastario and Licencio whatshisname when he first arrived in Los Angeles. He probably figured that Diego WAS most likely Zorro, but didn't want to let the cat out of the bag.

[TehJew22]

@lindalds Licencio Pina (the N-ye sound)

[nemaru]

@childhoodcontinues maybe he thinks that Diego is just trying to make Monastario look foolish by showing that even with poor technique he can be beaten?

[cataaa12]

" you find me atractive?" " no" haha

[FabioGrohI]

This one was pretty close.

[FabioGrohI]

I laughed my head off at 4:35

[happylmc]

Diago has an awsome neck. Dude what is with me today? I keep liking randome body parts in this show

[childhoodcontinues]

it's okay. I was thinking the same thing. lol

[jimjam69]

The acti8ng was under rated.Zorro was one of my favs followed by a variety od westerns and then James Bond.

[viliguns]

I must say, that guy did a great job playing the character of the Monasterio. You would hate the way he did things, but would laugh when Zorro foils his plans. What I like about this show is each character and how they have been developed throughout the episodes. Sgt. Garcia always cracks me up, especially in this episode when the Monastario's asking for his opinion on being attractive. This is one of my favorite episodes.

[DeadJiana]

Well, no matter what else you can say about Monastario, he sure had some pretty blue eyes... :)

[fabia8807]

pretty blue eyes indeed, they will be missed

[WwfHerosAndVillains]

awesome

[LuciusTheFair]

You know, while I am aware all these events transpire in the course of a single day, doesn't Don Alejandro find out that his son has been arrested? Maybe he doesn't find out while this episode is happening, but if he did, where was he?

[CafeAmerican1945]

My thoughts exactly. As much as Monastario hated Don Alejandro I wouldn't think he would miss out on a chance to let him see his son hang. On the other hand, maybe he thought he would make trouble with the viceroy there and decided it would be safer to leave him out of it. Or maybe the script writers just didn't think the matter through as well as we have.

[Mprator]

Good question. I would guess he was out of town on business or something.

[obiwanfx]

@LuciusTheFair

As Diego profiled himself as a lazy ass fool,Don Alejandro was the only leading figure in 1of the largest ranches in California. it seems perectly acceptable that he was just on a bussiness transaction for a while

[Lionheart773]

when Digeo figths he is cokey you can see it in his face even when he has the mask on but this is one the things that makes him cool. You can tell in this figth seen he is being cokey.

[Twilightescence5]

"Look at me sergant, do you find me attractive?"

"No."

hahaha!!!

[ALEJANDRASOLVALEN]

@Twilightescence5 is it that true????

[UbnubGirl96]

"I'll force you to revel yourself!"

"as a poor swordsman? everyone knows that!!"

and I also wonder how Diego and Bernardo met...

[childhoodcontinues]

Monastario was the smartest of all the villians Zorro/Diego faced. Also the most dashing ;-)

[musicalqueen101]

"If I was a woman and fat like this, I would not be so particular." LOL!

I will miss Monastario. I've always found him quite handsome. Go Bernardo!

[JDBW]

lol

[WestechWatcher]

What a waste of a great character like Monstario! He had style and finesse!

[Harlot13]

Agreed. I just read an interview and found out the reason Monastario was written out of the series was because the actor who played him was getting fan mail in equal amounts to Guy Williams and the producer told him "Sorry, but there can only be one star"

How sad, he got written out because he was TOO good at his part :(

[mildetryth]

lol, I don't find that hard to believe; even as a kid, I thought Monastario was cool!

[13thwho]

I always wondered what would have happened to Monastario if he had remained comandante during the Eagle's attempt to control California. Monastario wasn't the type to play second fiddle to anyone else, so would the Eagle have had him eliminated? Ironically, being arrested probably saved his life.

[TehJew22]

@Harlot13 Did "Monastario" get paid his "Opt out" pay? :/

[JDBW]

Like a spanish captain hook

[lindalds]

Britt Lomond was on the short list to play zorro. As was Tony Russo, who did some guest appearances.

The lancer who dressed up as Zorro to fool Monastario was played by Buddy Van Horn, Guy Williams' stunt double. I think.

[WestechWatcher]

Monastario is such a dashing and stunning character. I really enjoyed the show with him in evil action.

[Mprator]

Great episode but the V-Roy at the end is a dues ex machina.

[playme2011]

"you have made a fool of me once too often"

"you give me to much credit commandante it takes no skill at all to make a fool of you"

hahaha lolz

[Bopeliano]

A climax episode !!!

One of my favourite ever !!!

[Legebriwen91]

the viceroy so knows that diego can fence, I wonder if he suspects diego is zorro and just doesn't say anything because diego is such a good friend of them

[lindalds]

I think so, too.

[oOSaladinOo]

Poor ending of Monastario, what a great actor, yet I wish they would have made his ending more spectaculair, like a duel between him and Zorro and the loser dies something like that

[BosnaDiamond]

@oOSaladinOo  hmm thats done a lot of times in movies :P the bad guy always dies XD

[steveclips]

@oOSaladinOo Yeah he should have died in an epic way like in the Eagle's Flight.

[cujocujocujocujocujo]

I wonder how they never saw the tru.

[cujocujocujocujocujo]

How come they never found the cave h?

[marijevd]

Sometimes i wonder who pays for all the broken tables and chairs of the innkeeper.

pff but that was close!

[happylmc]

yeah, poor inkeeper lol

[lindalds]

Don Diego, most likely.

[Hevynly1]

Sgt. Garcia is one of the most endearing characters ever!

[bfyau]

Post all the Eagle ones too, POUR FAVOR!

[JDBW]

YES! the eagle was my fav part of the series!!!

[jbaudrand]

I'm 100% sure it is not the final monastorio episode that was showed in black and white in France in 80's. In the episode I remember, monastorio and zorro were fighting in a church, monastorio discover zorro's identity and fall from the roof...

[obiwanfx]

thats another zorro serie...

[jbaudrand]

Can you name it? give me a link?

:)

[happylmc]

I love the eagle episodes. Especially the one where he chases the eagle out of his house. I hope you have them to poast :)

[CafeAmerican1945]

Can't believe the Monastario series is over already. Can't wait to see the Eagle now. Seems Zorro's work is never done!

[brolixPD]

Comandante García!!!!

[pado6000]

Lucky, Diego, Lucky!

[Lardon2]

Oh super! Tu en es déjà au treize!