Zorba The Greek

[scrokostas]

ΑΧ ΕΛΛΑΔΑ, Σ'ΑΓΑΠΩ!!!!!!!!!

[mstinas1]

KARPENISH 

[Lieblingsfachful]

I have a record back from the sixities with this song on it. I found it a maybe 2 years ago but I still have it. Never thought the song was this popular.

[Gadoelka]

How wonderful a dance can be!!!

May the whole world dance on the music from Zorba the Greek.... It would be so good for everybody.

But the music where the video starts with, that makes my heart beat as never before, and the longing for dancing on this music is huge! :))

[FondOfGreek]

Maybe a good story, but the MMMMUUUUSSSSIIIIIIICCCCCC is so EEEXXXXCCCCEEELLLLEEEEEEEEEEEE­EEEEEEENNNTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!

I write this !!!!!!!! on the rhythm of the music of the video..... and then.... the man starts dancing, Zorba's dance, ooooh!!!, how nice, this is a great video!!!

[crazyondaime]

wow.it's funny how stupid macedonians claim that the whole europe is theirs.serbia,romania,bulgaria­,greece...i even saw a macedonian say that france was theirs!can you see how filthy and cheap these people are!because they are a small country they think they're so great cause they were a great nation a million centuries ago!

[bucurdragos]

MAKEDONIA FOURKA 2009 I was dancing like crazy wine festival , apologise for the retired people...............

[ElassonaG13]

dinoomk do you remember me???hahahahahhaah i see you learn greek and the perfect greek for you Η ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ ΗΤΑΝ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΚΑΙ ΘΑ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ DO YOU WHAT THIS MEAN THIS IS THE RIGHT GREEK INTERNET BOY 

[7koloniotis]

ΕΛΑ Η ΕΛΛΑΔΑΡΑ!!!!!

[mangocazzie]

one face one race you poor barstards mixed up in politic bullshit get your own lives an stop living others and life its all to short for this

[dinoomk]

Μακεδονία δεν είναι ελληνική, ή ήταν ποτέ.

[result321]

VIVA HELLAS!!!

[Franky20077]

great thx

[Eirene001]

Χα χα χα!!! (κλαιγοντας απ' τη χαρα..)

[bucurdragos]

VIVA HELLAS the land of God!

[greekmakedonas4261]

macedonia is only greek!

[kostel7777777]

@greekmakedonas4261 ETSI RE MEGALE!!!!!!!!ELLADARA!!!H MAKEDONIA EINAI DIKIA MAS

[waters129]

VIVA H HELLAS!!!

[kittyburger000]

Greek music is for the people that have some music experience.

[historysays]

It's a insult to any aducated man or any man at the same token when the Bulgarians Slavmacedonians call themselves Macedonians. Macedonia is Greece

[svmark0]

Look at any older map in any bigger museum in Europe: Macedonia and Greece were always separately denoted. The biggest part of Macedonia, the souther one, belongs to Greece since 1912, never before.

[johnzabon]

Better check some books besides fabricated web sites to check Families of Greek Kings in Byzantium hailing from Macedonia. After this check again why it was denoted as separated. It was because in Greece we had city states all of which comprised Greece.

[svmark0]

No, I did not look at internet at all about that. What I am talking about is from my personal visits to British Museum - London, Metropolitan Museum - NYC, National Roman Museum - Rome, ...

On the maps only Macedonia and Greece were denoted, no other city-states like Athens, Sparta, Corinth, Thebes ... (which indeed belong to Greece). It is very known fact that Macedonians were considered by Greeks as barbarians and they have other mother tongue.

[svmark0]

However, it is sad to be involved in stupid politic discussions instead of commenting the interesting music.

[lpalmesi]

I have to say, is very funny when we go into youtube to watch a nice video about dance and music and we find this kind of serious discusssions about history, politics (happens often) with a one called 'historysays' (this doesn't really happens often...)! LOL

after many nazi, fasci and commy logins yours really made me laugh...

but comme on, some historians consider possible that dorians came from the larger group of Slavs much before these other slav groups. None should feel insulted by that

[ant5ash]

Im Proud of My Greek Cypriot heritage and this is beautiful music.

Thank you for posting it

[TackNW]

The first half music is the traditional Cretan Dance Pentozali. Starts slow, goes wild. (See postings.)

[OBILIC777]

Can anybody tell me the name of the first SONG???

[historysays]

The music is from the region of Herakleion from the island of Crete the name is " Kasrtino" or "Pidihto" its a boystrous quick rythm and dance.

[sysweed]

The music here is amazing! I almost go mad by listening to the stuff in the middle. :-D

[H4ckeRLiNouS]

20 8a s evaza xD

[historysays]

Yes his grave is in makedonia because all this lands were populated by Greek people not Slavs. Slavs came to live in the Balkans the 11th cencery AD only 800-900 years ago! Slav Macedonians are Bulgarians and Speak Bulgarian.

Dobro dobro Belike Budala!

[roeg11]

800-900 years ago? Why then did Bulgaria celebrate its 1300th anniversary as a country a decade ago? "History says.." are you being ironic with that name?

[historysays]

Basil II The Greek Emperor of Konstantinopole in the batle of kleidion july 29th 1014 AD defeted the Bulgarian Tzar Samuel.

The Bulgarian people were kept north of Danube River, until after the Turks overun and took over the Bizantium. That's why i am right. I can debate this farther if you like

[PeraSerb]

Slavs came to Balkans in 6th century my friend but that dosent change the fact that Macedonia is Greek region! :-)

[Venousek54]

I love Greece! Beautiful country, beautiful people, beautiful music!

Hi from USA

[athenia17scorpion]

J'adore votre pays !! (je suis française!) Les gens sont adorables et les paysages sont superbes ! Vive la Grèce !

[Chekedaki]

Alexander the great was Macedonian A.K.A GREEK!

mother teresa i don't know but i think she was albanian.

Kazatzakis was Greek, even his name says so! kazatzAKIS crete u know? and any way this is not to be spoken anymore! WE ARE GREEKS AND MACEDONIA IS GREEK from ancient times! the land that scopia is nowdays was greek! even the name of the country is greek! so get lost!

[corfu75]

alexandrof zorbadof!! is slav from vardaska??? ou xaxaouxaxa!!!! like voukefalovic,ptolemeovic,kleop­atrova, aristotelof,parmeniovic!!! ouxaxouxaxa!! happy new year vardaskians!!! ZORPADOVIC??? OUXAXAXAXAXA

[twinzeri]

hahahahahha gamise to comment hahahahahahahhahaha dakrisa den to pisteuw :P

[JimmyTheGreek2000]

With the Greek language we can pronounce just about anything and everything. also,

The book was written by a Greek!

The Music was composed by a Greek!

The movie was made by a Greek!

It is GREEK now! ...... so get lost!

Make your own movie. 'Chorba the Slav'

[scorpio75000]

Aaamazing, what is the name of the first song playing before zorba the greek?

[VOLK2234]

Zorba the Grek

Alexander the Macedonian

[gomenara25]

Alexander the great was and is greek. Greetings from Germany.

[888Gr888]

YEA I LOVE GREECE!!!!

[saltadoros08]

wellcome all of you do greece

[nsn1978]

My God! What are you going to steal next? The Parthenon?

Next thing you know is "Zorba the ... Skopjan". Give us a break.

[musickistas]

not only zorba also lenin, hitler, tesla, mother teresa, maradona, pele and jordan are from skopje...

xexexexe you are so funny xexexexexe

[macedonianchorba]

yes mother teresa is from skopje , the others who know maybe they are greek hahhahahha.

and yes tesla wonderful SLAV a genie :)

[jovicans]

mother teresa is from skopje, she is vlach, tesla is serbian, he is from smiljan in lika, zorba is GREEK, FYROM isn't even 20 years old, MACEDONIA IS GREEK, always was, and always will be

[ilisia13]

oh my friends slavs-skopia-vardaska,you have tired us.He is Macedonian,she is Macsdonian,this is Macedodonian.you are the rapists of history. you offend us every time and day years now.the solution is the Hellenic(Greek)special forces to enter a night in skopia and take this which belong to us(the ancient GREEK MACEDONIAN land).Macedonian=Cyprus=Crete=­North Epirus= GREECE μαλακες...

[MarekillaBee]

Kosovo is Serbia

Macedonia is Greece

[drezkevdodevichkevic]

AstraionMK, I confirmed it with Turkish native speakers: Zorba means "tyrant, aggressive person". If it sounds like "chorba = soup" in your language, your problem. It also sounds like "sorbo = sip, gulp" in Spanish, and like "zorro = fox", and like "sorbet = iced drink" in English and French. So what? The Turkish origin of "zorba = tyrant" complies with the Greek "zorbalis = aggressive person", a loanword from Turkish. -- Just one of those "idiot Greeks" whom you hate so much.

[avra82]

Are taking drugs???? Wash your mouth very well before you talk about our language. We have a history of 4000 years. What's yours?

[darden8]

As a reply to the meaning of the word Zorba in Greek. It is a word of Turkish origin (search it in a Turkish dictionary)meaning tough guy and it is commonly used in modern Greek as well with the same meaning. You can also find it as zorbalis which also means tough guy. It is very easy for Greek to interact with other languages and incorporate various idioms. That is why Greek (our stupid language!!) is a live and dynamic language counting more than 4000 years of existence. Get your facts str8

[starbucks3954]

You're not too bright, are you?

[Makedonwow]

LoL@ the inferior countries trying to leech off of other people's history and culture.

Keep trying, you are our favourite muppets.

[kalovolos]

ti lei re paidia to atomo? milaw gia ton Astraion Mk. den xerw kala aglika. alla as tou apantisei kapoios pou xerei oti ti sxesi echei i glwssa twn skopianwn me tin elliniki.aftoi den xeroun apo pou katagontai. voulgaroi einai? servoi? alvanoi? tourkoi? gyftoi? mallon gyftoi. ti sxesi echei to "Chorba " me to Zormpa? pes te tou kapoios to poso ilithios einai. sas parakalaw

[flokos82]

STO KSENODOXEIO SOU RE FILE XOREUEIS?

[GreekGerman]

Ela re file!pouli oreo tragoudi, bos to lene?

[gokkkan]

The information above can also be read in book:

Studies in Modern Greek

Nikos Kazantzakis Novelist, by Peter Bien

However, I dont really think it matters whether Zorba is greek or Macedonian, or even Turkish.He is too far away these kinda little details. For instance, Zorba learns to play santuri from a Turkish man(Recep Efendi), as told in the early pages of the book.

[gokkkan]

Zorba is a Macedonian.I know that you are asking that "If Zorba is Macedonian, why is the book called 'Zorba the Greek' then??"

THE ANSWER IS THAT:

The name for the book that Kazancakis regarded was "The Life and Times of Alexis Zorbas" or another translation: "The Fortunes and Misfortunes of Alexis Zorbas", however the publisher reads the book and puts the name "Zorba the Greek" as a stipulation to publish the book.

READ THE NEXT POST TO CONTIUNE

[thomaifilm]

Macedonia is Northern Greece as well.

[gokkkan]

im from Turkey and i love zorba! zorbaaaa

[usaibo]

denyo,

[azaarboy1]

Ooooppa Yasu

[KPDMM1990]

I'am from Poland and i love ZORBA!!

[imperatorum]

I'm from Brazil and I adore Zorba.I mean by the International bible of the 1001 best motion pictures ever made and amongst them you shall find 43 greek ones!... amazing

from Kalpiki Lura to Theodoros Aggelopoulos and "the single" with Str.Tzortzoglou.

[584855]

zorba the greek is my frends grandpa his real name is ellias pangos he was a wrestler

[AluminumFoilHatMan]

Ha ha ha ha ha... I was just kidding. I wanted to see you guys get really mad. Ha ha ha ha ha

[LIADINIS]

you will never be greek and that hurts you

[ZorbaTheFreakNYC]

I am Zorba The Freak ! The One and Only !! I dont understand what your trying to say nest.. pes mou na katalavo

[Zorbosthedestroyer]

so yea, my real name is Zorba Dravillas, ive taken great pride in that name and the heritage that comes with it, its too bad you guys cant apreciate the film for what it is...not exactly high quality hollywood stunts or anything, but someone obviously; like me takes pride in this story, and its too bad you ppl have to use this as an oportunity to argue like little children...grow up...do something...enjoy life and "Live each Day".

[jimmys14]

You did not reply. So this guy according to the article you copied here fought 3 wars, 2 against Bulgarians(1904-1908,1913) and 1 against Turks(1912) always on the Greek side always voluntarily but of course he was not a Greek he was a ... Slavomacedonian? You understand you look stupid now,

don't you?

[macedonianchorba]

so if u reed the article u will bether understend what i like to say

[LIADINIS]

Slavomacedonian is only your asshole

[macedonianchorba]

Was he choosing to spend his last years among a strange people and culture, or was he going to live with the people he knew, with the people with whom he felt closest? Would he speak Greek in a Macedonian village, or would he speak Macedonian? Was he a Greek among Macedonians, or was he... a MACEDONIAN?

[jimmys14]

I found the website you gather the information. Alexis

Zorba fought with other Greeks against Bulgarians during 1904-1908. Surprisingly, the importance of this information is downgraded. Why he would bother to fight on the Greek side as a volunteer if he was not a Greek?

[MakedonsKapRiNcEzSa]

who cares who is from where it doesn't matter we all descended from adam and eve btw the music is nice i love it..

[macedonianchorba]

so my frend - Alexis Zorba (Alekso Chorba)wos "Slavomacedonian" haw u call (or macedonian we call) - but he wos not greek whay then "Zorba the greek" ????

[jimmys14]

From the book chapter 1:"..I left with it, went to Salonica, found a Turk full of passion and sensitivity, Retsep-efendi they called him, the teacher of the santouri. I fall on his feet. "What do you want, moreh, Greek boy?" he asks. "I want to learn to play the santouri!..." LOL

[macedonianchorba]

Why, as a middle-aged man in his late 50's, would Zorba move north into the Macedonian heartland? If he were Greek, why wouldn't he have moved south and lived anywhere in Greece? Having deserted the Greek cause in 1912 in the war against the Turks, was he afraid for his life?

[jimmys14]

What you call Macedonian heartland is probably the Greek city of Monastiri (Monastery). For the Greek Macedonians

the second most important city after Thessaloniki. The majority of the population were Greeks before 1923.

[macedonianchorba]

"Zorba" drifted north into what is now Republic of Macedonia and settled in a village a few miles from Skopje. For almost the last twenty years of his life the historic George Zorba lived in the centre of the Macedonian countryside until he died at about the age of 77 in 1942.

[jimmys14]

If the article speaks the truth. For example, the author seems to ignore that Greeks in 1912-1913 fought also against Bulgarians(1913) because Bulgarians wanted Thessaloníki for themselves.

[jimmys14]

It is true that he left Greece in 1930s but not die there as the author assumed. He married again and he had one children!He continue to work as a miner in Skopia but unfortunately the Germans took over the control of his mine. Bear in mind that Yougoslavia was

a friendly country for the Greeks at that time.

[macedonianchorba]

where are greek now in "Monastiri" (Bitola) ?

greeks newer live there before and now

the most etnic clean sity in Republic of Macedonia

there are only macedonians and few vlah family (if u mean on them thet thay are greek , thay are not)

[jimmys14]

In 1923 it took place an official exchange of population between Greece,Turkey, Serbia and Bulgaria. Greeks who were left behind had to deal with the same hardships (or even worse)and difficulties like the Slavomacedonians who continued to live in Greece.

[akis1972]

the music of clip is cretan.dances is siganos first and pedozalis after.search in "you tube"

[macedonianchorba]

He saved, not the man Zorba/ Chorba, but even more important, the memory, the image, the philosophy, the life-view and the world-view of the Macedonian mind alive in the world.

The marvelous achievement of Kazantzakis is that he created an indelible universal statement of Freedom and Human Rights with the essential message of "Long Live the Macedonians".

And, Kazantzakis did that by beginning with one word SOUP. CHORBA!

[macedonianchorba]

The evidence from George Zorba's life and from the novel clearly points to the conclusion that Zorba the Greek is in truth, Chorba the Macedonian.

Kazantzakis, a one-time Minister of Education in the government of Greece, and perhaps the greatest Greek writer of this century, hails and affirms a Macedonian and places him among the world's leaders.

[jimmys14]

Kazantzakis was not minister of education. Check wikipedia please.

[macedonianchorba]

Nikos Kazantzakis died in Frieburg, Germany, on October 26th, 1957. His body was taken to Athens to lie in state. The Archbishop of Athens of the Greek Orthodox Church refused to permit the national honour or to celebrate a funeral mass for him. Kazantzakis name and the name of his hero Zorba/Chorba live on around the world and will to the end of time. I don't remember the name of the Archbishop

[macedonianchorba]

Then there is the greatest revelation about Zorba. In the book, Zorba, talking about himself says,

"O wonderful Slav, may you live a thousand years!"

Are Greeks Slavs? Do they ever speak of themselves as being Slavs? Macedonians are Slavs, in an ethnic sense and a religious sense.

[macedonianchorba]

There is no better evidence as to the ethnic and national identity of Zorba than the text of Kazantzakis' book itself.

When the main character in the book first meets Kazantzakis, but before he reveals his name he offers to work for the author as a cook. He says, "I can make soups you've never heard of, or thought of." That is Kazantzakis dropping the first clue about the name, Zorba as Chorba in Macedonian.

[macedonianchorba]

The book was written by Kazantzakis and published in Greek in 1946 during the civil war between Macedonians and Greeks. The original title was "The Life and Times of Alexe Zormpa". Zormpa? How peculiar? But you did notice that the book originally was not called "Zorba The Greek".

[jimmys14]

The civil war was between communists and nationalists.

Slavomacedonians sided with the communists and lost the war. By the way in Greece the book is still published with the title "The Life and Times of Alexis Zorba" so no conspiracy here.

[macedonianchorba]

finaly someone say the truth!!!!!

[macedonianchorba]

If he were Greek, why wouldn't he have moved south and lived anywhere in Greece? Having deserted the Greek cause in 1912 in the war against the Turks, was he afraid for his life? Was he choosing to spend his last years among a strange people and culture, or was he going to live with the people he knew, with the people with whom he felt closest? Would he speak Greek in a Macedonian village, or would he speak Macedonian? Was he a Greek among Macedonians, or was he... a MACEDONIAN?

[macedonianchorba]

For almost the last twenty years of his life the historic George Zorba lived in the centre of the Macedonian countryside until he died at about the age of 77 in 1942

[gatsby31]

Perhaps that is why Rome became the great 'Imperium' after you. You are always divided and angry while in Western Europe your culture is essential and we admire any form of art from your past, even your Greek literature and Thouht-Philosophy... What happened to the better travellers of the Mediterranean Sea?

[HellasToni84]

What´s your point my friend?

[ikaros2006]

"macedonian" thieves! they steal the greek history because they are fucking slavs!

[Waldi56]

i need the beginning melody, please..

[Markobonv]

I LOVED IT! I wish I could have seen more!  Thank you.

[miv05ath]

...Remember which was the first big city of today's Spain. Imeroskopeion, one of the western greek colonies, where Balencia is today. Also, Valearides islands (Mallorka, Minorca) were greek.

[miv05ath]

gatsby31, wat the fuck do you say? Your queen is our gueen??? That's ridiculous. The place were the democracy was born, was the death of monarchy once again in 1974, this time, FOREVER! My country is Hellenic Parliamentary Republic. I don't refuse Sophia is greek, but she is not my queen. Not Constantine is my king.

[aetos1966a]

this is the creta HELLENIC DANCE pentozali. This summer came on in greece to dance with us!!!

[Kritikopedo]

Dude i did a quick project for school chill out. Dont be mean dude its just youtube.

[gatsby31]

I don't doubt about anything of Greece.I see you have no interest,although you were the first to name these islands as 'The Hesperides.'Moreover,all those myths about the 'golden apple' or whatever. Remember that our queen is your queen (Spain).

[realdimension]

OI , you live in the fucking 21st century now mate, get used to it.

[Reijkelenboom]

I enjoyed reading the book Zorba The Greek by Nikos Karantzakis ! Crete is indeed a BEAUTIFUL and SPELLBINDING island.

[macedonianchorba1]

IF U REED BOOK - Zorba The Greek by Nikos Karantzakis -

1 - the book its call lave of Aleksis Zorba -

2 - is Zorba greek or macedonian?

pl ansver

[jimmys14]

To macedonianchorba1:You are a slavomacedonian. Zorba was a Greek and a real Macedonian. Why don't you get it?

[macedonianchorba]

what "zorba" mean on greek?

alexis die in macedonia - in skopje- on age of 77 in 1942.

[macedonianchorba]

we are macedonian spiking slav language

and zorba wos real macedonian spoken macedonian not greek

[jimmys14]

to macedonianchorba: Zorba is a turkish word. I think means brave or brutal, anyway no slavic word. NOW tell me what Philip means in your language? I check wikipedia, Zorbas was from Monastiri a Greek city now belongs to FYROM. By the way,what Monastiri means in your language?LOL

[macedonianchorba]

u mast to know basiq macedonian , to know what manastir mean (i will twll u if u dont know manastir is turkish name of sity bitola and manastir they call becose of great chrches thet sity have - universal name monastery probebly u know)

and about zorba thray to write macedonian word "chorba" -reed on eng.-

ch - macedonian, u didnt have in greek alfabet so u mast write zorba - and many other leter u dont have - see macedonian azbuka (abeceda)

[jimmys14]

Monastiri is a Greek word not for the church itself but a place where live monks (the whole establishment).It comes from the Greek Word monahos (alone and also a monk). Monastiri was built in Byzantine years and has nothing to do with the Turks.

You will be surprised to know that the Greeks are able to pronounce most of turkish names using a combination of letters. The Greek alphabet(irony that this also a Greek word)was the base for the Latin and Slavic alphabet as well. Check wikipedia.

[HellasToni84]

First it is MONASTIRI in original GREEK language...Not manastir.Second we spell it Zorba not Chorba,and we have a "ch" in our alphabet...It is the "X".We spell it "ch".Now what do you want?To steel this greek,too?!?!

[macedonianchorba]

do u reed the book of Nikos Karantzakis ?

[metaneira1986]

I cant understand why u re doing this division greek or macedonian?? MACEDONIA IS GREECE, IT BELONGS TO GREECE.YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. find a greek lexiko to find out what the word means.