Can't see much sign of any steam. Usually when we see these things "working" in a museum the motive power comes from hidden electric motor/s. The sound of "steam" is simply that of air being drawn in and pushed out of the cylinders by the movement of the pistons. Mind you it would be bit difficult to build authentic boilers into a museum what with space limitations apart from the problem of storing coal with its attendant mess!
The best working mini example of the Titanic engines are on the SS Earnslaw on Lake Wakitipu New-Zealand. It was launched in 1912 the year of Titanic and as two double acting triple expansion steam engines and is certainly the only working example operating on a daily commercial basis. I assisted in timing them 3 weeks ago after her yearly overhaul. Everything on this ship is original and working including Boilers, feed pumps, fire pumps etc.
Its the Auckland City fresh water supply pump that supplied Auckland, NZ up until the 50's with fresh water,straight from Western Springs.The pumphouse is now part of a museum called MOTAT (Museum of Transport and Technology ).Its aim is to preserve machinery of all aspects that have helped shaped New Zealand and the world....Great place to spend a day.
@grngs1 NO IT DID NOT HAVE OLDS DIESELS. She had 2 x triple expansion engines with 2 LP cylinders instead of one. HP 54'' dia; IP 84''; LP 97''. 75'' stroke. Weight 1000 tons. Engine height was about 65 feet. Each developed 15000IHP @ 75rpm. Centre engine was a Parsons turbine 16000 SHP at 165 rpm. This would push her to 21 knots. She had 29 boilers @ 215psi. Around 825 tons of coal consumed each day.
Esta maquinas foram instaladas em Lisboa em 1880 e trabalharam ate 1928, quando foram desativadas, uma delas e acionada por motor elétrico, para os vistantes do Museu da Agua, obsercarem seu funcionamento. Bombeavam agua rio Rio Tejo para a parte alta de Lisboa. Estive lá em 2005,. em ótimo estado de conservação.
@thebartman Well, your marketing ploy did attract this person, whom I am not quite sure I should either laugh at or entertain serious pity for...
Dolphindream15
"1 year ago I cant believe its the real engine of the oringal titanic that they may have brought up from the ocean floor ,,,but I CAN BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A REPLICA OF WHAT THE ENGINE OF THE TITANIC WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE IN 1912 AND HOW THE ENGINE WORKED,,it is a replicia of the oringal isnt it,,"
@thebartman This is probably most likely a working replica of the Titanics steam engine.I doubt that this is her steam engine because it was under water for god knows how many years,water would have caroded the metal,eaten holes in the metal and made everything rusty beyond repair and it is hard to fix holes in metal,I've tried,I even tried welding my little live steam engine piston shut and the steam just leaked out I had a welder by me to show me how to do it every step of the way.
@65Dart It might be a similar or identicle design, but the engines on the titanic were too heavy to lift for museums so it didn't happen. Probably never will :/
@65Dart It pisses me off how it's so hard to search about things like the architecture or the mechanics of the ship without skipping through a thousand webpages dedicated to showing how it sank.
@ibaneziceman2007 Mauritania, Aquitania, Ile de France, Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse, whatever. Truth be told, she was a ship that would have otherwise been remembered as well as these, if not for the wreck and all the social drama. Curious to think how much money that one tragic night has made for so many people since, amidst all the endless tragedies on the sea. If only the crow's nest lookouts aloft had their damned binoculars, we would likely not be discussing this now.
I know nothing of what the Titanic had for dynamo, or auxiliary engines, and something like this monster may just be the type.
However, I've always understood from what I've read over the years, that she had multi-stage low RPM steam turbines for main engines, which were the secret to her high speed capabilities.
Nearly 30 years ahead of her time.
I do love a good steam powered beam engine, though.
her main engines were just 2 triple expansion engines both delivering 30000HP and 75 RPM, and a turbine engine for the center prop having 16000HP RPM165. there was nothing secret at all or 30 years ahead for it's time. or else titanic would have had diesel engines.
The engine actually has 132 years on the clock. The 29th of November 2009 is the second anniversary of when the engine first turned under steam after 79 years of rest
This is a beam engine and is totally different to titanics. She had 2 x triple expansion engines with 2 LP cylinders instead of one. HP 54'' dia; IP 84''; LP 97''. 75'' stroke. Weight 1000 tons. Engine height was about 65 feet. Each developed 15000IHP @ 75rpm. Centre engine was a Parsons turbine 16000 SHP at 165 rpm. This would push her to 21 knots. She had 29 boilers @ 215psi. Around 825 tons of coal consumed each day. Make no mistake; Titranics engine and boilers were a serious piece of plant.
This beam-engine is the original engine and pump used to supply the City of Auckland with water. It is now the center-piece of Auckland's Museum of Transport and Technology. Built in 1877 and has 51 years on the clock.
the titanic was not powered by steam, it had 2-16 thousand hp diesel engines that where used oil for drilling oil before being put in the ship. A fact from BING
Bing is not even close on this fact. The Titanic had a normal coal-carrying capacity of 6,611 tons (an additional 1,092 tons could be carried in a reserve coal bunker). Coal=boilers, boilers=steam. The first diesel powered ship was the MS Selandia which launched in 1911. It is not likely that the White Star line would try a year old technology on its star passenger liner.
I cant believe its the real engine of the oringal titanic that they may have brought up from the ocean floor ,,,but I CAN BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A REPLICA OF WHAT THE ENGINE OF THE TITANIC WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE IN 1912 AND HOW THE ENGINE WORKED,,it is a replicia of the oringal isnt it,,
I am her chief engineer. We run her at 6-8rpm but have been up to 20. Powered by a 60hp boiler which has to work hard to keep up. We think she is the only double compound beam engine in the world (possibly ever built?) Two pairs of cylinders, (HP 26''x60'' LP 42''x84'') two beams but only one flywheel. Similar to a person riding a bike. Differs from a twin compound which has two flywheels. Beams 24' long. Love to hear if any other double compound engines exist.
It doesn't look like titanic's angine, this one is a simple expansion, titanics engine vas triple expansion whit a revers built in sistem this one doesn't have such thing...
Thanks for the update, although if you read the 'fine print' (at the top right corner of every video) you will see I state it is not the titanic's engine.
Plus this is a walking beam engine. Most likely used in a factory, or mine (or other stationary location). The Titanic's engines were reciprocating triple expansion engines. And yes i realize they knew it wasn't really the Titanic's engine.
True. Im assuming its slowed down so you can see whats going on a bit clearer... and give dumb tourists a little more time to get their arm out once they put it in...
@trebor121290 I do not think so- those huge pumping and other stationary steam monsters worked slowly, mass instead of speed. Would you spin a cast iron flywheel that diameter really fast?
The flywheel is 20'6" in diameter and weighs 16 tons. The engine did about 14rpm in service but we have had it up to about 21rpm. An awesome sight to see the wheel doing a rev in less than 3 seconds
The engine is the worlds only surviving double compound beam engine and was built by the firm of John Key and Sons in Kirkcaldy, Scotland in 1875. She was imported to NZ in 1876 and was used until 1928 to pump water to a reservoir about 3.5km away in Ponsonby from where it was gravity fed to the houses of Auckland. Restoration took about 3 1/2 years and is the reason why MOTAT was developed where it is.
This is a replica of a Watt steam engine as many as 100 years older as the Titanic.
Ermi1211 1 week ago
That's pretty much how a standard car engine works unless it's a wankel rotary.
SPS148669 2 weeks ago
Can't see much sign of any steam. Usually when we see these things "working" in a museum the motive power comes from hidden electric motor/s. The sound of "steam" is simply that of air being drawn in and pushed out of the cylinders by the movement of the pistons. Mind you it would be bit difficult to build authentic boilers into a museum what with space limitations apart from the problem of storing coal with its attendant mess!
Wnoronz 3 weeks ago
this engine here is a beam pumping engine it was used to pump water from western springs lake to a water refinery for town supply
devonshaddick1 4 months ago
This looks like it is worth a visit when I get to AKL
mekydro 4 months ago
THIS IS NOT Titanic engines, Titanic has 2 TRiple-Expansion 4 cylinder turbines, they were the double of these ones size
BritishNathan 4 months ago
That's a beam steam engine would have been used for pumping. i think
haz939 6 months ago
is it in the Titanic Museum?
OneTeamOneMission 6 months ago
The best working mini example of the Titanic engines are on the SS Earnslaw on Lake Wakitipu New-Zealand. It was launched in 1912 the year of Titanic and as two double acting triple expansion steam engines and is certainly the only working example operating on a daily commercial basis. I assisted in timing them 3 weeks ago after her yearly overhaul. Everything on this ship is original and working including Boilers, feed pumps, fire pumps etc.
combrokers 7 months ago
Mechanical Engineering genius
BARRIEMOREBARLOW 8 months ago
ye olde treadmill
paintballgundown8 10 months ago
i bet the person peddling to get that going is having fun
Vikiloulou1991uk 10 months ago
Its the Auckland City fresh water supply pump that supplied Auckland, NZ up until the 50's with fresh water,straight from Western Springs.The pumphouse is now part of a museum called MOTAT (Museum of Transport and Technology ).Its aim is to preserve machinery of all aspects that have helped shaped New Zealand and the world....Great place to spend a day.
saltydog45 1 year ago
I love how most people see the word Titanic and instantly think of the ship.
"Titanic -adj.
titan. of enormous size, strength, power, etc.; gigantic."
The poster of the video was clearly referring to the enormous size of the engine, though he could have used a different word to avoid confusion.
mwhite112393 1 year ago
ok thats not titanics.
MrCcake 1 year ago
Titanic had Oldsmobile diesels
grngs1 1 year ago
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@grngs1 NO IT DID NOT HAVE OLDS DIESELS. She had 2 x triple expansion engines with 2 LP cylinders instead of one. HP 54'' dia; IP 84''; LP 97''. 75'' stroke. Weight 1000 tons. Engine height was about 65 feet. Each developed 15000IHP @ 75rpm. Centre engine was a Parsons turbine 16000 SHP at 165 rpm. This would push her to 21 knots. She had 29 boilers @ 215psi. Around 825 tons of coal consumed each day.
reddrryder 7 months ago
spooky
telhacerta 1 year ago
Esta maquinas foram instaladas em Lisboa em 1880 e trabalharam ate 1928, quando foram desativadas, uma delas e acionada por motor elétrico, para os vistantes do Museu da Agua, obsercarem seu funcionamento. Bombeavam agua rio Rio Tejo para a parte alta de Lisboa. Estive lá em 2005,. em ótimo estado de conservação.
lucabuar 1 year ago
Bothers me how since that damned movie came out everything involving a ship or a steam engine is now somehow related to the RMS Titanic. Nice video.
65Dart 1 year ago 6
I guess it's called marketing - who doesn't know about the Titanic?
thebartman 1 year ago 4
@thebartman Well, your marketing ploy did attract this person, whom I am not quite sure I should either laugh at or entertain serious pity for...
Dolphindream15
"1 year ago I cant believe its the real engine of the oringal titanic that they may have brought up from the ocean floor ,,,but I CAN BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A REPLICA OF WHAT THE ENGINE OF THE TITANIC WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE IN 1912 AND HOW THE ENGINE WORKED,,it is a replicia of the oringal isnt it,,"
...you may be onto something.
65Dart 1 year ago
@thebartman my friend knows about the ship but has never seen the movie, so he is clueless
thefifthteen 2 months ago
@thebartman This is probably most likely a working replica of the Titanics steam engine.I doubt that this is her steam engine because it was under water for god knows how many years,water would have caroded the metal,eaten holes in the metal and made everything rusty beyond repair and it is hard to fix holes in metal,I've tried,I even tried welding my little live steam engine piston shut and the steam just leaked out I had a welder by me to show me how to do it every step of the way.
PalomboDylan 1 month ago
@65Dart I thought the same thing, Titanic's engines were Triple Expansion engines not Beam engines!
Firrboxfryup 11 months ago
@65Dart It might be a similar or identicle design, but the engines on the titanic were too heavy to lift for museums so it didn't happen. Probably never will :/
AmoralEngineer 9 months ago
@AmoralEngineer NOT AT ALL SIMILAR IN DESIGN !!!
reddrryder 7 months ago
@65Dart It pisses me off how it's so hard to search about things like the architecture or the mechanics of the ship without skipping through a thousand webpages dedicated to showing how it sank.
ibaneziceman2007 7 months ago
@ibaneziceman2007 Mauritania, Aquitania, Ile de France, Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse, whatever. Truth be told, she was a ship that would have otherwise been remembered as well as these, if not for the wreck and all the social drama. Curious to think how much money that one tragic night has made for so many people since, amidst all the endless tragedies on the sea. If only the crow's nest lookouts aloft had their damned binoculars, we would likely not be discussing this now.
7EMERSON9 7 months ago
@7EMERSON9 Exactly. If she hadn't sank she would have been turned into a war ship and then scrapped.
ibaneziceman2007 7 months ago
@ibaneziceman2007 Of course it is true that the Titanic disaster is representative of the end of the Gilded Age.
7EMERSON9 7 months ago
Nice replica of the engine :)
DrGWR11 1 year ago
Yeah, it's just an idea of how the engines worked. Titanic's engines and steam plant was immense.
GospelGentleman 1 year ago
I want to ride it like a mechanical bull
Weasil666 1 year ago
ship engine rooms freak me out :-(
Nuclear793 1 year ago
the engine on titanic was not compound engines, they were 3-gangs engines
TheLivefraBrede 1 year ago
Beautiful beam engine !!! love the workmanship.
crorivpro 1 year ago
where is this ate?
generaltodd2 1 year ago
Located at Auckland - New Zealand.
thebartman 1 year ago
@thebartman holy crap!! is this at Motat??!!
Tetw2012 10 months ago
@thebartman kind of reminds me of the expansion engine down at the museum in bluff
Jakanddaxter1999 1 month ago
Located in the suburb of Western Springs, Auckland, New Zealand
thebartman 1 year ago 2
@thebartman By Titanic I assume you mean from the Greek word "Titan" meaning gigantic.
Gigantic incidentally was the original name for RMS Titanic.
Thes beam engines look of Cornish design. Would have been nice to see if there was a makers name on the beams such as "Harvey & Co of Hayle"
petermines 9 months ago
WALKING BEAM?
teletubbykiller23 1 year ago
This is a beam type pumping engine. May have been used to raise water for town supply or mine drainage.
TYMMCHN 1 year ago
I know nothing of what the Titanic had for dynamo, or auxiliary engines, and something like this monster may just be the type.
However, I've always understood from what I've read over the years, that she had multi-stage low RPM steam turbines for main engines, which were the secret to her high speed capabilities.
Nearly 30 years ahead of her time.
I do love a good steam powered beam engine, though.
This is one beautiful engine.
DrFruikenstein 2 years ago
her main engines were just 2 triple expansion engines both delivering 30000HP and 75 RPM, and a turbine engine for the center prop having 16000HP RPM165. there was nothing secret at all or 30 years ahead for it's time. or else titanic would have had diesel engines.
mrrobville 1 year ago
Nothing like the White Star liners' triple-expansion monsters. But a neat artifact all the same. Kurt.
kurtarmbruster 2 years ago
The engine actually has 132 years on the clock. The 29th of November 2009 is the second anniversary of when the engine first turned under steam after 79 years of rest
bigkiwimike 2 years ago
im fascinated with titanic. wich i could find a real underwater exploration of it like the boiler rooms and stuff
DexDizzy 2 years ago
This is a beam engine and is totally different to titanics. She had 2 x triple expansion engines with 2 LP cylinders instead of one. HP 54'' dia; IP 84''; LP 97''. 75'' stroke. Weight 1000 tons. Engine height was about 65 feet. Each developed 15000IHP @ 75rpm. Centre engine was a Parsons turbine 16000 SHP at 165 rpm. This would push her to 21 knots. She had 29 boilers @ 215psi. Around 825 tons of coal consumed each day. Make no mistake; Titranics engine and boilers were a serious piece of plant.
bigkiwimike 2 years ago 33
This beam-engine is the original engine and pump used to supply the City of Auckland with water. It is now the center-piece of Auckland's Museum of Transport and Technology. Built in 1877 and has 51 years on the clock.
Erictheirritated 2 years ago
I thought Titanic had three one fo each prop.
DAKOTA56777 2 years ago
@bigkiwimike Excellent! Couldn't have explained it better. Don't know why the OP claimed it to be (or even linked to) the Titanic's engine (moron).
Prestologs 1 year ago
@bigkiwimike Well then, you seem like the guy to ask: how did they get the coal down into the Titanic?
ibaneziceman2007 7 months ago
@bigkiwimike you know your shit!! lol
dxmcghee 6 months ago
@bigkiwimike thats right, this is not titanic engines
BritishNathan 4 months ago
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the titanic was not powered by steam, it had 2-16 thousand hp diesel engines that where used oil for drilling oil before being put in the ship. A fact from BING
boa721 2 years ago
Bing is not even close on this fact. The Titanic had a normal coal-carrying capacity of 6,611 tons (an additional 1,092 tons could be carried in a reserve coal bunker). Coal=boilers, boilers=steam. The first diesel powered ship was the MS Selandia which launched in 1911. It is not likely that the White Star line would try a year old technology on its star passenger liner.
scottb953 2 years ago 2
it was a joke dud. most any one would know it was a steam ship. it was my way of saying BING is not as it seems to be.
boa721 2 years ago
I cant believe its the real engine of the oringal titanic that they may have brought up from the ocean floor ,,,but I CAN BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A REPLICA OF WHAT THE ENGINE OF THE TITANIC WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE IN 1912 AND HOW THE ENGINE WORKED,,it is a replicia of the oringal isnt it,,
Dolphindream15 2 years ago
Hey Bartman...i was there too and Helen Clark was there for the opening day as well...were you there that day?...
noddydiesel 2 years ago
I am her chief engineer. We run her at 6-8rpm but have been up to 20. Powered by a 60hp boiler which has to work hard to keep up. We think she is the only double compound beam engine in the world (possibly ever built?) Two pairs of cylinders, (HP 26''x60'' LP 42''x84'') two beams but only one flywheel. Similar to a person riding a bike. Differs from a twin compound which has two flywheels. Beams 24' long. Love to hear if any other double compound engines exist.
bigkiwimike 2 years ago
this is fantastic, wish i could see it in real life...
NielsMF 2 years ago
Are you familiar with Winton engines?
WaffenMitWoIfenstein 2 years ago
that engine drove two water pumps. it pumped water from mystery springs to Auckland city. the pump was Decommissioned just before ww2.
spoonnz 2 years ago
Incredible. If only they did make an EXACT working model, But still, Its still a truly impressive peice of kit.
Mclaren1O 2 years ago
It doesn't look like titanic's angine, this one is a simple expansion, titanics engine vas triple expansion whit a revers built in sistem this one doesn't have such thing...
Tcosp 2 years ago 9
Thanks for the update, although if you read the 'fine print' (at the top right corner of every video) you will see I state it is not the titanic's engine.
thebartman 2 years ago
@thebartman Using the word in its correct context. Excellent.
edj66 1 year ago
Plus this is a walking beam engine. Most likely used in a factory, or mine (or other stationary location). The Titanic's engines were reciprocating triple expansion engines. And yes i realize they knew it wasn't really the Titanic's engine.
salemcripple 2 years ago
Wow this is really full throttle? I thought it ran faster than this, still impressive though
rudolphna54 2 years ago
75 RPM is just over 1 rotation per second, and according to what ive read, thats about what the Titanic's engines ran.
trebor121290 2 years ago
This is running at more like 30-40 RPM though.
rudolphna54 2 years ago
True. Im assuming its slowed down so you can see whats going on a bit clearer... and give dumb tourists a little more time to get their arm out once they put it in...
trebor121290 2 years ago 7
@trebor121290 I do not think so- those huge pumping and other stationary steam monsters worked slowly, mass instead of speed. Would you spin a cast iron flywheel that diameter really fast?
Jeansschwimmer 6 months ago
Beam engines like this drove the early steam powered vessels, from stern wheelers on the Missisippi to Alantic side wheelers like the Great Eastern.
EnigmaNZ1 2 years ago
Cooll.. I actually thought the engine was louder.
dzanicjasmin 3 years ago
great post
lrothrock1 3 years ago
Amazing such beauty and intelligence.
iloveplanetrock 3 years ago
cool video
19leeann 3 years ago 2
The flywheel is 20'6" in diameter and weighs 16 tons. The engine did about 14rpm in service but we have had it up to about 21rpm. An awesome sight to see the wheel doing a rev in less than 3 seconds
bigkiwimike 3 years ago
Many thanks mike for the info. You are now the sites official statistician - keep up the good work.
thebartman 3 years ago
How wide is that fly-wheel?
DanielBrennan9 3 years ago
The engine is the worlds only surviving double compound beam engine and was built by the firm of John Key and Sons in Kirkcaldy, Scotland in 1875. She was imported to NZ in 1876 and was used until 1928 to pump water to a reservoir about 3.5km away in Ponsonby from where it was gravity fed to the houses of Auckland. Restoration took about 3 1/2 years and is the reason why MOTAT was developed where it is.
bigkiwimike 3 years ago
Best watched in high quality having just tried it..click the "high quality" option just below the "views" box under the video frame.
thebartman 3 years ago
aha so thats why allright thanks anyway for your reaction
JoeDeSmid 3 years ago
not that i don't like this movie but its not the titanic engine :( but its an engine
JoeDeSmid 3 years ago
Thanks joe. The titanic sank a while ago so this was the next best thing.
thebartman 3 years ago