I think people would like there products more if they knew it was legit. Say for instance if cars are built here and the quality is good then people would be buying them, and for a good cause reliability and Job security! Damn corporation are out of touch with reality.
@tonymonism Your out of touch! If cars were built here our unions would ask to be paid $20/hour for running a drill that puts tires on a car when a machine can do it 100 times as fast. Well a car would cost A LOT more than one made in china or India. No one could afford it at all!!!!!!
If it wasn't for 'the predatory white man' MM wouldn't be able to make a film, drive a car, eat ff hamburgers so cheaply. Ya. The world's not perfect. Big deal.
absolutly nothing to contribute ot back ,all they do is take and they have co opted the media and the government to do their bidding , or stolen away from the people rather, thats what fascisim is ,a corporate government ,which is what we now have and it is only getting worse
it sounds as if telemetry is confused this film is not anti capitalisim or against the monetary system it not some utopian propaganda like zeitgeist, whixh does a fantastic job of summing up a big portion of the problems in a short time, but then turns to crazy utopian propaganda as the solution propaganda that resembles huxleys vision in brave new world, the problem is that corporation have all the rights of a person and non of the accountability or responsibility ,and dont pay any taxes and do
able to fix it, nothing could, but it is a huge lie , look up maurice strong, and who he really is, this whole global warming and green enviornmental is just another fraud to get you to give up your wealth and rights,its totaly crap, the climate is a chaotic system and could never be hoped to be understood ,they even call cap and trade a "scheme" in their own documents cause that is exactly what it is a scheme to steal the little remaining wealth from the middle class &hand it over to the elites
before it is really too late, they are also the same people trying to push his idea of a carbon credit or cap and trade system on us ,it would be the biggest tax on humanity in history ,it is a death sentence for the 3rd world and it means enslavement for the middle class and poor for the rest of the world ,yes the eath is getting warmer but it is not proven to be caused my man, the climate is cyclical and has been for millions of years,and even if it was caused by man cap & trade would not be
the U.S. has become a corporate fascist dictatorship ,consumption is not the problem, dont buy into this sustainability movement,it just more propaganda from the same people who sold the sheeple on these trade agreements like NAFTA and CAFTA and the idea of a "service based economy" over a resource based economy which is why we are in total economic colapse right now, its why there is over 20% unemployment, that and letting china into the WTO and the removal of glass segal WAKE UP PEOPLE
its not capitalisim that is total horse shit it is this form of it that is, this sort of cronie capitalisim , this is not really capitalisim ,its collectivisim
these corporations have been allowed to become even bigger than monopolies they are not monopolies cause a monopoly just monopolizes the industry in one particular field they are involved in these basterds have their greedy likke mits in everything they own the media ,the government and several different industries globally
@telemetry9 i hope your joking or something? this isnt an assault on capitalism its an attack on corporations which are a particularly horrible entity within that whole sphere, you can still believe in making money and essentially capitalist ideas without shitting all over the planet and crushing people under your business, in fact from what i gather thats what the filmmaker is aiming towards. And it may want money but that is not its primary goal, otherwise it would not have been out for free.
Yep. It still sounds ridiculous to me. There are more imaginative ways to generate revenue if that was part of their intention when making the film. ie. "the film makers ask everyone to donate $2. We are a non profit organization and $1 will go to helping small and sustainable fair trade around the world. The other dollar will go to further research and costs towards film making into this subject" "this way we don't undermine our credibility in this subject and promote positive change"
@telemetry9 i still disagree with the premise that requiring money undermines this film, they have to eat, and do all those other things that cost money. If it had been a film attacking consumption, i'd agree, however it isnt. and i agree with you on that point, voluntary work is not only doing something positive, it feels far more liberating than paid work. Money is a burden, however the need for it/ what it brings doesn't invalidate a point.
Maybe your right that they should donate part of the profits to supporting fair trade, but there is little difference between taking the dollar for further research and paying themselves salaries out of that, (which many non-profit organisations do) and taking it as they are. it would be interesting to know if this film actually profited, they could have done a sort of anti-advertising deal with a few of the corporations "pay us and we wont mention you" probably would have worked better too.
The plea for cash shows just how miserably entangled we all are into consumption at the expense of everything else. Including our credibility. I'm guilty of that by the way so I'm very much part of the problem too. with voluntary work i was balanced because I could focus on the tasks and forget about how much or how little I was earning. I was also helping the environment with the work I was doing. liberating. Money is a burden on all of us. Even ifyouhaveit.
Capitalism is not the problem really. Capitalism, fascism, and socialism are all failed social experiments within the constraints of the largest problem of all; the monetary system. The far most of the problems of today can be traced back to the cause, which happens to be the monetary system itself.
Corporations, CEO's, politicians and alike are not "bad" people, they're simply people brought up in an environment that enforces the kind of behavior we would otherwise condemn.
Everyone has a motive, like Michael Moore. He wont tell you the boring truth that the wealth is concentrated in the Northeast, because he is from Michigan. Expose the difference in wages from per say NE to Iowa or Alabama. Rich white is not sticking anymore, with a black president. Its rich buddies of all colors and religions taking advantage of the poor working class.
This part was baffling for the lack of better words. To hear a CEO admit to such a change brings true hope into my heart. Maybe one day we won't need to take these men to jail. A greater sign of humanity would be to forgive them, maybe even ridicule their blindness, but mostly focus on the work of our own generation: saving the damage and creating a new way. The true and honest (i.e. not Barrack's) Yes We Can!
@dnm25 I think the point is not to rely on occagional CEO to do the right thing. Its not about one person doing one thing be it Barack or that nice CEO. we the people have to fight the system of corporatism. By setting the limits or regulations on how much the corporations allowed to do. I mean ppl in Bolivia fought and they won so that a CHANGE you can believe in. Forget about ceo
Is that the mindset of Moore's corporation? He's a multimillionaire. If he's so noble, why doesn't he split the profits equally among all his employees like he expects others to do?
True capitalists are not Fascists. The market place and yes profits motivate their behavior. Fascists are Socialists who know the state cannot plan an economy or an economic recovery. In a Fascism, the government is the senior partner and the corporation follows their instructions or they die. Moore obviously has never studied what happens to societies that limit profits. There are fewer jobs, workers are worse off and the country falls further and further behing the rest of the world.
@dharmaatdawn Maybe Long meant that people elect candidates that will redistribute other's wealth to them. After all, he was more socialist than FDR. It can't be called corporatism because government is the senior partner, often being enforced by the barrel of a gun, as Jean-Paul Sartre points out.
Business has ruined science. there is no real science done, it is all now a marketing gimick to get idiots to buy shit. 4 out 5 blah blah blahs recommend blah blah blah... Capitalism is total horse shit.
Only when the last tree has died, the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught, will we realize that we cannot eat money. *sigh*
Thats why they dont have souls. They are slave masters/aka beast aniamals. They all work for ROME. they gay eat blood just vampires with no conscious. And if you support them you deserve the pain they about to bring to you in their NWO. SLAVERY. global. Dumbasses. corporation is fake companys you are the stock on the market. you owe them. they own you. YOu own nothing unless you get yo birth rights back from these devils of ROME.
The people sho support this also support eugenic's stealing from a worker to provide for a lazy person. You all are being tricked by billionaires on why you shouldn't become millionaires. They use this to create two classes and no middle that can rise a competitor. You really think billionaires are going to stop to save a bird or fish. That dictators will go away to keep a river clean. Rights, save your rights and you'll save the planet. let them go for the planet and someone will own it all.
Hive mind, you people are so funny. What the hell happened to people. Why does every think you don't have to work or earn a living. People demand evolution be taken serious, but as soon as person shows that trait their not human. Hypocrits. People want evolution for faith and morals for business. Hypocrits.
I love it when it says the desire for profits can be used for good. In abosuletely no way can self interest ever help anyone, sometimes i wish the whole world was a hive mind, so that empathy would be inescapable.
@derekHSmith growth rates reverse as a result of better education, growing industrialization, and better living conditions. Its gonna take a lot for those third world nations to get to this point, but you are on the right track.
So it's the farmer's "right" to steal the property of the corporations that produce these seeds? Newsflash leftist morons: If corporations couldn't retain control of their seed patents they wouldn't produce the fucking seeds to begin with. Idiots.
@msredalbert1 the problem is as complex as the corporation itself. getting rid of it entirely solves it. as the documentary shows they were only made to cope with the booming now they are no longer necesary.
If a CEO or High Ranking Director of a Corporation wanted to do the "right thing", and it would cost the company $30 million dollars in reduced profits he would find himself unemployed in a hurry. To label a Corporation as "evil" isn't the way to go regardless of its actions. This is a systemic problem that causes management to make decisions that may cause them personal guilt. Tough Decision? If they won't do it someone else will...
Wasn't that the Nazi Officers defence? If I don't do it, If I don't kill these people in ovens then they will demote me and someone else will do it so I might as well do it myself? You are correct, that someone else will, but if people of conscience refuse perhaps they will run out of people who will do it.
I think Chomsky said it best ony one of us can be Nazi officer or angel depending on the system. the point is we can not wait for occasional CEO to do the right thing. its about fighting this whole system known as corporation. We have to stick together, orginize, and eventually laws will be passed tp regulate those monstrocities.. They did it in Bolivia.
@randy95023 Yes you are right. the corporations as a system is evil the people who work in it, CEO,s are not evil. Thats why people who oppose uncontrolled terrany are fighting for regulations or how much control corporation allowed to get. But noy the people who work for the system.
I think movie does an excellent job separating a dysfuntion system and people who work for the system..
michael moore aren't you a rich white man? it feels as though we are hearing some freudian projections about his own fear or realization that he is out of touch with his audience.
@tristramshandy3 Just because I think he's out of touch with the public doesn't mean i'm attacking personally or a right winger. In fact neither of your assumptions is true.
In case you want to defend his comments( 2:50 ) about rich white men. I thought they sounded classist, racist, and sexist though inexplicably he falls into the same category that he was criticizing.
@tristramshandy3 Glad see you won't defend his comments, they were kind of crazy.
I thought a lot of it was accurate, albeit strongly biased. I would have added corporate involvement brought countries like china and india out of poverty.
2:50 - That's not true AT ALL - There ARE SOOOOOO many Rich Yellow, Brown , and Black Men in this World...Michael Moore lives in a sheltered lil $hit world in his head.
@julianrmartinez43 -So the Prince of Dubai, or Jordan, or Liu Yongxing, or Wong Kwong Yu, or Carlos Hilu...Of course, you know who the white ones are right? You don't even know who they are so shut up...
Re: Agriculture - It is not a war against evolution (false) it is a war against God's creation and for your soul. As stated - predators. People want fulfillment or just to satisfy your own personal desires, demons want control and you basically are constantly bombarded with greed and desire via commercialism and idealism so much that most don't know what they want which creates confusion which created our delusion of what life is.
value nothing, wear your shield on your outside. I'm a slave :P I don't hope, and I don't want past day. I survive each night to joy in day. Enjoy. They make it dire. The fact that the leech said something means he has difficulty sleeping at night, or he wouldn't warn. It's a release from the burden of. Just know what you value in your heart, be nice to who you worship and none else, who melted you, but you know. I don't worship because I have none at the moment or ever...
How about the fact that a plant that puts more energy into making food instead of reproducing makes more food for people to eat. How about the fact that there is more than enough food in the world to feed everyone but people just don't feel like sharing it. Fuck you if you think people who increase crop yields are ruining the world. Fuck you and Michael Moore in the ass.
@laidbacktionist Agreed--that is the fundamental premise of the Free Market System. GREED is a basic human instinct that needs to be managed, and the best tool for this is a system of equality where one person cannot dictate the purchasing decisions of another.
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However, maintaining such a system is difficult. Power tends to aggregate, and inequalities begin to emerge--eventually monopolies form and the Free Market ceases to exist. We are approaching this point.
(Cont) Hmm, why are most American companies white owned? I'm sure it has nothing to do with a few hundred years of mass European immigrants migrating to America, or to mention who benefited directly from a new set of laws in 1787? These types of Moore statements are garbage.
@danielharmonizer I agree, the primary issue is not that most of American companies are "run by a bunch of rich white guys," and such racist statements only serve to distract us from the real problem--Corporate influence in government.
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We need a Constitutional Amendment to abolish "Corporate Personhood" and abolish corporations from politics. Separate CORP and STATE!
3:00 is why I can't stand Michael Moore. He either outright misleads his viewers or doesn't himself understand practices. Example: "The fact that most of these companies are run by these rich white guys...means that they are out of touch with what the majority of this world is." Is this a joke? How illogical can one be. So a specific corporation must be run to an exact proportion of what the world is comprised of? And aren't willing shareholders owners of a corporation?
Corporate "persons" have no morals, no ethics, and no conscience. Their only limitation is the LAW. Unfortunately the Supreme Court has decreed that corporations have the same Constitutional Rights as flesh and blood citizens. They use these "rights" to make political donations and lobby Congress. They are even WRITING legislation and handing it to Congress for a rubber stamp!
We need a Constitutional Amendment to abolish "Corporate Personhood" and ban corporations from politics
Fridges! Ok, we shouldn't be having fridges period! Eat well by not having a fridge. believe me, this three months I have done without a fridge because it's winter! In the UK I just leave my cold stuff by a window in a plastic bag!
AMERICAN REPUBLICAN FASCISM: Nationalism without merit - Constant desire for "rebirth" Military Worship Worship of the ultra rich Corporation & State collaboration - avoiding labour rights Social Darwinism - "Bad things happen to bad people" Inequality is good & necessary Fraudulent Elections Imperialism - Culturally & Militarly Minimal social policies Corporate media manipulation Anti-intellectual Anti-multiculturalism Anti-homosexuality Anti-labor unions Anti-social democracy
Well I can certainly understand. Killing seeds is just unacceptable. In a sane society such action would be considered insane. We as a civilization are on our way down, not up. We need to get rid of money all together.
The corporations of the future will do provide services and products to all people at no cost, because by doing that they ensure the survival of themselves as well as others.
there's activist for just about everything, because there's one person who cares about something and then another person trying to destroy it for whatever reason. makes sense.
I have to respect Ray Anderson. He comes across as an intelligent, well-spoken, and very moral man. He may not really be that way, I know, but I hope that he is. In a world dominated bysoulless people, we need more like the person Ray Anderson seems to be here.
@thirtysilver I agree. But you know something. I'm a hard person to surprise, and yet, he surprised me. Because of the way my mind works, i find it hard to understand or relate to people who have 180-degree moral epiphanies. I've certainly had my own share of "eye-opening experiences" regarding some of the every-day customs that Americans take part in, and that i too have taken part in. But, how could a person like Marc Barry ever change his mind? ...
@thirtysilver Perhaps my correlation of Marc Barry being like a version of Ray Anderson when he was younger is in error. Perhaps. But, if a person believes that something is right and just, then why would they suddenly start believing that they had been diametrically wrong previously after reading one book? We're talking about a complete shift in the man's philosophy of life! Hmmmm.
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Plundering illegal? Possession is 9/10ths the law! It's the darwinian extistentialism age. Do whatever you want and the strongest and smartest win and survive.
But today's idea of human strength and intelligence is like a strong fire burning in an igloo. The hotter and brighter it gets, the more you will destroy your house.
In nature a species designed as a predator is only an opportunist.Taking only what it needs when an opportunity compromises its prey.
Humans are the only species that will extend the predatory act beyond that behavior....and that process can lead to the plundering of prey and/or resources......
Neither the strongest nor the smartest survival in the long run. It is in fact the most "adaptable" of species that ultimately wins and survives..which requires a balance within its environment...
It's truely ironic that the filmmaker downplays the motives of profit as almost inherently evil, but on every other clip of this documentary asks for money to be donated to his website because if out of all the downloads of this documentary - he wouldn't have to make this appeal. HE. not the 200 other people that worked on this film ? Ironic. Without money I guess he can't make more films. Micheal Moore is a rich white man!!!!!!!! There are many things inherently wrong with corporations but not
What a racist statement. Rasist and foolish. So most business leaders are rich white men, and since most of the world is not rich, white, and male, that means these men are incapible of seeing various situations around the world and understanding them? Mooron based his statement on race and wealth alone, so he is a racist.
It can be said that PEOPLE can make choices without understanding their full impact, and that applies to everyone, but not because of their race or income.
All this is complicated multi-level deception spanning many decades of modern US/World history. In the center you have greedy financial interests of US and international bankers.
Average people are simply paid slaves who, however, can not buy anything from iPod to house without credit or loan. Average people are lied to about everything all the time!
I dont know where you start fixing things. But I believe we are approaching some culminating point. Something big is coming.
The credit system has few flaws for so much progress and productivity it helps create. Loan providers are right to check into those they lend to. They are either the owners of that money or those entrusted with other people's money. They should be certain that those they lend to are able to pay it back.
And no, you don't need credit to buy things. There is this thing called "saving your money" you know. Credit is just buying something you pay for later.
If I have a family of six then why would I do something as stupid as buying a compact refrigerator?
also If I have a family of six and nothing higher than a highschool education who's gonna hire me for more than 9dollars an hour besides for a customer service call center that has the turn over rate of....McDonalds.
Well you said "a" fridge. Be more specific next time. Anyway, even if you bought a $1,200 fridge, you'd still only have to save up about 3 checks (and that's with taking other bills into account). Plus, most places will let you pay them back in small, monthly installments.
How many family members you have is not a question employers ask in an interview. In fact, some states forbid them from asking it. All they want to know is if you have a reliable mode of transportation.
And I don't know what places would hire a highschool graduate for more than $9 an hour because I'm a college graduate who can get over $12 an hour. Why don't you find out by applying for better jobs in your area. Or don't apply, and stay in your shitty job. It makes no difference to me.
I don't know either, since you obviously aren't educated enough to "spread" light on anyone. All you know how to do is bash the greatest economic system in the world simply because you are too stupid and/or lazy to take advantage of it.
@shortgaurd consumer choice is limited based on the size of their paycheck and the information available. Walmart likes to locate in small towns where they can take advantage of large pockets of the uneducated poor. This drives the small business owners out of business--creating even more poor people for Walmart to feed on.
@wbaltzley "where they can take advantage of large pockets of the uneducated poor." Can you please clarify what you mean by this? This statement seems highly contradictory.
@shortgaurd People in rural areas (small towns) tend to have lower incomes and less education than those in urban areas. Although more spread out than those in urban areas, people in small towns constitute a considerable part of the population.
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Walmart seems like a good deal to those in small towns because they can do their shopping without traveling to a dozen different stores scattered across several towns--however they don't see the long-term harm it causes.
@wbaltzley correct however you said that the uneducated poor have large pockets. If they are poor they would not have large pockets (meaning much money). Furthermore, if they are uneducated they would make even less money.
@shortgaurd Unfortunately the way society and the economy is structured, not all people have the choice to buy the "right" products. For instance due to the constant decreasing of the real wage, people are forced to buy the cheapest products in order to make ends meet. Most of those times those cheap products were made inexpensively due to the chemical processes that produced them.
@shortgaurd The problem with the concept of "voting with your dollars," is this- your vote doesn't count for 100% of vote - it counts for 10% or 5% or less if you're poor. Also people without a lot of money don't have many options on how to "vote" with their dollars. If it's sold at walmart for less, then the poor have no choice if they want to have whatever it is (food, blankets for their home, chairs to sit in etc.)
@StinkadoodlePie So you propose everyone has an equal share? So if I make a million dollars and blow it on alcohol I STILL deserve an equal share? The share you have in capitalism is how much you are willing to save. If you're too stupid to save more money it's your own damn fault.
@msredalbert1 I don't propose that everyone has an equal share. I propose that everyone has an equal VOTE. Your shareholdings should have nothing to do with how much influence you have on the government.
And people aren't always poor because they're "too stupid" to save money. Sometimes they're too homeless, or too discriminated against or have too much cancer to save money. And people with those monetary setbacks shouldn't be entitled to have less of a vote.
@StinkadoodlePie I live in the USA so to those that don't this might not apply to you. You probably work harder because americans are lazy and stupid and will take every handout they can get. Just one example is the commercials I hear all of the time that 1 in 8 americans struggle with hunger. lol That is 12.5 percent. Now they are saying 1 in 6, but it doesn't matter anyways. Another statistic 91% of americans use cell phones. HA That is a 3.5% overlap. So really why are they poor?
@shortgaurd i do wish they would have phone booths like they used to, and make cell phones a luxury item again. not a necessity. how do you do that? change the nation's zeitgeist to where they all start giving up cell phones in masses. when the majority of the nation doesn't have one, it stops becoming a necessity. the same is true for cars. its all about a thing called relative poverty vs. absolute poverty.
@shortgaurd Not that I disagree that americans can be lazy, but we do have poor people as well. For instance, on the cell phone thing - where I live a cell phone plan is cheaper than a home phone, and you NEED some phone in order to work.
@shortgaurd This is true and the primary reason is that we don't see our economic acts as being political acts. Americans are consumers of many things especially the world's resources.
I think these corporations forget sometimes that the Consumer has the ultimate power and therefore can stop these corporations from doing their dirty deeds.
looks like ultimatly the human path of progress will lead us to our demise, sometimes I think as a species we have failed this planet and our universe, we dont deserve to be the dominant species in this planet.
The whole concept of the word "rich" is subjective... by vary definition it means a minority. if everyone had it, it would cause inflation to match how much they have, so that again only a few are rich and the majority are poor... by definition
why the fuck is michael moore making it a racial issue. man sometimes i cant stand that fat fuck, news flash, the white man is not evil, just so happens that a few are. STOP bashing people for race, bash them based on what they do, because theyre not doing anything in the name of the "white man", theyre doing what theyre doing in the name of MONEY. Okay mikey boy, please refrain from racially divisive remarks, PROCEED>
CHEMRISK - a research company hired by the Corn Refiners has recently taken down it's YouTube page.
The removal was in response to negative public perception resulting from the high-fructose corn syrup ad campaign. Apparently it has become a liability to defend the sweetener.
See the last remaining ChemRisk video at CornRefinersAssoc on YouTube.
CHEMRISK - a research company hired by the Corn Refiners has recently taken down it's YouTube page.
The removal was in response to negative public perception resulting from the high-fructose corn syrup ad campaign. Apparently it has become a liability to defend the sweetener.
See the last remaining ChemRisk video at CornRefinersAssoc on YouTube.
Somebody like you wont be in jail, the law of reciprocity will decide your fate, you will end up just like the Orangutan, Whooping Crane and Marmot, and reap what you have sown.
I think people would like there products more if they knew it was legit. Say for instance if cars are built here and the quality is good then people would be buying them, and for a good cause reliability and Job security! Damn corporation are out of touch with reality.
tonymonism 1 week ago
@tonymonism Your out of touch! If cars were built here our unions would ask to be paid $20/hour for running a drill that puts tires on a car when a machine can do it 100 times as fast. Well a car would cost A LOT more than one made in china or India. No one could afford it at all!!!!!!
TheSpecificChad 3 days ago
If it wasn't for 'the predatory white man' MM wouldn't be able to make a film, drive a car, eat ff hamburgers so cheaply. Ya. The world's not perfect. Big deal.
darkoanton5 3 weeks ago
i want that redhead guys scalp AND I WILL GET MY SCALP!!!
PuffSmelly 1 month ago
absolutly nothing to contribute ot back ,all they do is take and they have co opted the media and the government to do their bidding , or stolen away from the people rather, thats what fascisim is ,a corporate government ,which is what we now have and it is only getting worse
bulletproof2353 3 months ago
it sounds as if telemetry is confused this film is not anti capitalisim or against the monetary system it not some utopian propaganda like zeitgeist, whixh does a fantastic job of summing up a big portion of the problems in a short time, but then turns to crazy utopian propaganda as the solution propaganda that resembles huxleys vision in brave new world, the problem is that corporation have all the rights of a person and non of the accountability or responsibility ,and dont pay any taxes and do
bulletproof2353 3 months ago
able to fix it, nothing could, but it is a huge lie , look up maurice strong, and who he really is, this whole global warming and green enviornmental is just another fraud to get you to give up your wealth and rights,its totaly crap, the climate is a chaotic system and could never be hoped to be understood ,they even call cap and trade a "scheme" in their own documents cause that is exactly what it is a scheme to steal the little remaining wealth from the middle class &hand it over to the elites
bulletproof2353 3 months ago
before it is really too late, they are also the same people trying to push his idea of a carbon credit or cap and trade system on us ,it would be the biggest tax on humanity in history ,it is a death sentence for the 3rd world and it means enslavement for the middle class and poor for the rest of the world ,yes the eath is getting warmer but it is not proven to be caused my man, the climate is cyclical and has been for millions of years,and even if it was caused by man cap & trade would not be
bulletproof2353 3 months ago
the U.S. has become a corporate fascist dictatorship ,consumption is not the problem, dont buy into this sustainability movement,it just more propaganda from the same people who sold the sheeple on these trade agreements like NAFTA and CAFTA and the idea of a "service based economy" over a resource based economy which is why we are in total economic colapse right now, its why there is over 20% unemployment, that and letting china into the WTO and the removal of glass segal WAKE UP PEOPLE
bulletproof2353 3 months ago
its not capitalisim that is total horse shit it is this form of it that is, this sort of cronie capitalisim , this is not really capitalisim ,its collectivisim
these corporations have been allowed to become even bigger than monopolies they are not monopolies cause a monopoly just monopolizes the industry in one particular field they are involved in these basterds have their greedy likke mits in everything they own the media ,the government and several different industries globally
bulletproof2353 3 months ago
"We're predators." No shit, Sherlock.
HufflepuffPrince 4 months ago
Damn right weird for the film maker to appeal for money when the entire film is a testament to what happens when people make money.
Anyone else find this hypocritical?
It actually destroys any credibility the film has in my mind. A serious dysfunction in the construct of this film is that it wants money.
Oigh....8k
telemetry9 5 months ago
@telemetry9 i hope your joking or something? this isnt an assault on capitalism its an attack on corporations which are a particularly horrible entity within that whole sphere, you can still believe in making money and essentially capitalist ideas without shitting all over the planet and crushing people under your business, in fact from what i gather thats what the filmmaker is aiming towards. And it may want money but that is not its primary goal, otherwise it would not have been out for free.
cheshirecat565 4 months ago
@telemetry9 i apologize for launching into a youtube argument, i hate doing this but your statement offends me.
cheshirecat565 4 months ago
Yep. It still sounds ridiculous to me. There are more imaginative ways to generate revenue if that was part of their intention when making the film. ie. "the film makers ask everyone to donate $2. We are a non profit organization and $1 will go to helping small and sustainable fair trade around the world. The other dollar will go to further research and costs towards film making into this subject" "this way we don't undermine our credibility in this subject and promote positive change"
telemetry9 4 months ago
@telemetry9 i still disagree with the premise that requiring money undermines this film, they have to eat, and do all those other things that cost money. If it had been a film attacking consumption, i'd agree, however it isnt. and i agree with you on that point, voluntary work is not only doing something positive, it feels far more liberating than paid work. Money is a burden, however the need for it/ what it brings doesn't invalidate a point.
cheshirecat565 4 months ago
Maybe your right that they should donate part of the profits to supporting fair trade, but there is little difference between taking the dollar for further research and paying themselves salaries out of that, (which many non-profit organisations do) and taking it as they are. it would be interesting to know if this film actually profited, they could have done a sort of anti-advertising deal with a few of the corporations "pay us and we wont mention you" probably would have worked better too.
cheshirecat565 4 months ago
you're ok - I don't mind.
The plea for cash shows just how miserably entangled we all are into consumption at the expense of everything else. Including our credibility. I'm guilty of that by the way so I'm very much part of the problem too. with voluntary work i was balanced because I could focus on the tasks and forget about how much or how little I was earning. I was also helping the environment with the work I was doing. liberating. Money is a burden on all of us. Even ifyouhaveit.
telemetry9 4 months ago
Marc Berry - Looks like he's out of work now. Unless he's going to be getting work doing interviews.
mahound9 5 months ago in playlist The Corporation (complete, chapters 1 to 23)
Acid Trip - B-Complex
allahluckbuck 6 months ago
Capitalism is not the problem really. Capitalism, fascism, and socialism are all failed social experiments within the constraints of the largest problem of all; the monetary system. The far most of the problems of today can be traced back to the cause, which happens to be the monetary system itself.
Corporations, CEO's, politicians and alike are not "bad" people, they're simply people brought up in an environment that enforces the kind of behavior we would otherwise condemn.
Uribaani 6 months ago
1:14 and not a very good one now that everyone knows o_O
zilbiol 7 months ago
CORPORATE pukes
xXt3kHe4dXx 7 months ago in playlist The Corporation (complete, chapters 1 to 23)
Everyone has a motive, like Michael Moore. He wont tell you the boring truth that the wealth is concentrated in the Northeast, because he is from Michigan. Expose the difference in wages from per say NE to Iowa or Alabama. Rich white is not sticking anymore, with a black president. Its rich buddies of all colors and religions taking advantage of the poor working class.
tylrjsph 7 months ago
This part was baffling for the lack of better words. To hear a CEO admit to such a change brings true hope into my heart. Maybe one day we won't need to take these men to jail. A greater sign of humanity would be to forgive them, maybe even ridicule their blindness, but mostly focus on the work of our own generation: saving the damage and creating a new way. The true and honest (i.e. not Barrack's) Yes We Can!
dnm25 7 months ago
@dnm25 he's right though, the CEO doesnt make the decisions...they're paid to manage the company. its the owners/stockholders that make decisions
ThePantha2 7 months ago
@dnm25 I think the point is not to rely on occagional CEO to do the right thing. Its not about one person doing one thing be it Barack or that nice CEO. we the people have to fight the system of corporatism. By setting the limits or regulations on how much the corporations allowed to do. I mean ppl in Bolivia fought and they won so that a CHANGE you can believe in. Forget about ceo
dharmaatdawn 7 months ago
I was about to tear.
pitusimx 8 months ago
Is that the mindset of Moore's corporation? He's a multimillionaire. If he's so noble, why doesn't he split the profits equally among all his employees like he expects others to do?
amerlibmov 8 months ago in playlist American Politics
True capitalists are not Fascists. The market place and yes profits motivate their behavior. Fascists are Socialists who know the state cannot plan an economy or an economic recovery. In a Fascism, the government is the senior partner and the corporation follows their instructions or they die. Moore obviously has never studied what happens to societies that limit profits. There are fewer jobs, workers are worse off and the country falls further and further behing the rest of the world.
amerlibmov 8 months ago in playlist American Politics
@amerlibmov
"Of course we will have fascism in America but we will call it democracy!" --Huey Long
Fascism is not defined by the number of its victims, but by the way it kills them. --Jean-Paul Sartre
Fascism ought to more properly be called corporatism since it is the merger of state and corporate power. -- Benito Mussolini
dharmaatdawn 7 months ago
@dharmaatdawn Maybe Long meant that people elect candidates that will redistribute other's wealth to them. After all, he was more socialist than FDR. It can't be called corporatism because government is the senior partner, often being enforced by the barrel of a gun, as Jean-Paul Sartre points out.
amerlibmov 7 months ago
Dr. Vanda Shiva, so.... corporations are like the cast system in India?, those poor "untouchables" are similar to the employees of a corporation.!
USAvetJiuJitsuCHAMP 10 months ago
Business has ruined science. there is no real science done, it is all now a marketing gimick to get idiots to buy shit. 4 out 5 blah blah blahs recommend blah blah blah... Capitalism is total horse shit.
MrAppleseed88 10 months ago 32
@MrAppleseed88 No capitalism in North Korea. Go There Moron!!
TheSpecificChad 3 days ago
i like corporations
theamericano33333 11 months ago
Michael Moore the race-bater
seanmPWH 11 months ago
Only when the last tree has died, the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught, will we realize that we cannot eat money. *sigh*
bridafication 11 months ago 54
@bridafication your an idiot
theamericano33333 11 months ago
Ray Anderson is the man! Support companies like his.
MatthewF1 1 year ago
Thats why they dont have souls. They are slave masters/aka beast aniamals. They all work for ROME. they gay eat blood just vampires with no conscious. And if you support them you deserve the pain they about to bring to you in their NWO. SLAVERY. global. Dumbasses. corporation is fake companys you are the stock on the market. you owe them. they own you. YOu own nothing unless you get yo birth rights back from these devils of ROME.
da13thsun 1 year ago
billy buttercup? ill punch you in your fuckin face .
metalf919 1 year ago
@metalf919 ?
jazzyfizzle86 9 months ago
The people sho support this also support eugenic's stealing from a worker to provide for a lazy person. You all are being tricked by billionaires on why you shouldn't become millionaires. They use this to create two classes and no middle that can rise a competitor. You really think billionaires are going to stop to save a bird or fish. That dictators will go away to keep a river clean. Rights, save your rights and you'll save the planet. let them go for the planet and someone will own it all.
stoltzmans 1 year ago
Hive mind, you people are so funny. What the hell happened to people. Why does every think you don't have to work or earn a living. People demand evolution be taken serious, but as soon as person shows that trait their not human. Hypocrits. People want evolution for faith and morals for business. Hypocrits.
stoltzmans 1 year ago
I love it when it says the desire for profits can be used for good. In abosuletely no way can self interest ever help anyone, sometimes i wish the whole world was a hive mind, so that empathy would be inescapable.
Millipedecult 1 year ago
Why is it that Moore always has sold his soul to the divide and conquer propaganda. He kills every issue this way...
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I don't understand. Is this porcupine hair guy really a corporate spy? If he really is, what is he doing here exposing himself to the public?
kiasmus 1 year ago
The main problem is the non-white world has overpopulated. We need to curb and reverse the growth rate of third world populations.
derekHSmith 1 year ago
@derekHSmith growth rates reverse as a result of better education, growing industrialization, and better living conditions. Its gonna take a lot for those third world nations to get to this point, but you are on the right track.
TheRationalBeing 1 year ago
Use YouTube while it's still free!
aksmar18 1 year ago
How many companies do you think actually hire spies to do shit like this? Not very goddamn many
jjrglobal 1 year ago
I don't really understand why does the guy with the stupid haircut expose himself. Any ideas?
TEGA1984 1 year ago
How to correct a democracy once it has gotten out of control: watch?v=BBezaI0bnAQ&
JohananRaatz 1 year ago
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I wish this trouble maker Moore would fucking die in an accident too mush to say for himself.
MegaSmallPeople 1 year ago
@MegaSmallPeople I'd like the members of the neo fascist asshole vermin Chicago School of Economic mayhem to go first.
ChrisDutch 1 year ago 2
How can I not support this system? The only thing I can think of is becoming a hippy after I'm out of high school. lol wtf
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ThisOneRocks 1 year ago
"The profit motive drives the actions of the corporation"
Yes idiot leftists that is correct. And if you take away the profit motive, you take away the production that you all enjoy. Fucking idiots.
msredalbert1 1 year ago
So it's the farmer's "right" to steal the property of the corporations that produce these seeds? Newsflash leftist morons: If corporations couldn't retain control of their seed patents they wouldn't produce the fucking seeds to begin with. Idiots.
msredalbert1 1 year ago
don't worry i have a headshot percentage of 100 why don't u join me on my side see what's yours.
get me?
vreaulamatah 1 year ago
@vreaulamatah Leftists seem to think that corporations will simply produce goods and take monumental risks out of the goodness of their hearts.
msredalbert1 1 year ago
@msredalbert1 the problem is as complex as the corporation itself. getting rid of it entirely solves it. as the documentary shows they were only made to cope with the booming now they are no longer necesary.
vreaulamatah 1 year ago
That Marc Barry guy should stop impersonating investment bankers and start impersonating Bruce Willis! Holy crap, he's like the guy's twin.
dude3390 1 year ago
Thank you Dr Shiva It is a war against evolution, against human kind. What kind of people create such a thing?
Thank you machbar for circulating this most important video
gr8light 1 year ago
Thank you Dr Shiva It is a war against evolution, against human kind. What kind of people create such a thing?
gr8light 1 year ago
If a CEO or High Ranking Director of a Corporation wanted to do the "right thing", and it would cost the company $30 million dollars in reduced profits he would find himself unemployed in a hurry. To label a Corporation as "evil" isn't the way to go regardless of its actions. This is a systemic problem that causes management to make decisions that may cause them personal guilt. Tough Decision? If they won't do it someone else will...
randy95023 1 year ago 4
@randy95023
Wasn't that the Nazi Officers defence? If I don't do it, If I don't kill these people in ovens then they will demote me and someone else will do it so I might as well do it myself? You are correct, that someone else will, but if people of conscience refuse perhaps they will run out of people who will do it.
dishesdealer417 9 months ago
@dishesdealer417
I think Chomsky said it best ony one of us can be Nazi officer or angel depending on the system. the point is we can not wait for occasional CEO to do the right thing. its about fighting this whole system known as corporation. We have to stick together, orginize, and eventually laws will be passed tp regulate those monstrocities.. They did it in Bolivia.
dharmaatdawn 7 months ago
@randy95023 Yes you are right. the corporations as a system is evil the people who work in it, CEO,s are not evil. Thats why people who oppose uncontrolled terrany are fighting for regulations or how much control corporation allowed to get. But noy the people who work for the system.
I think movie does an excellent job separating a dysfuntion system and people who work for the system..
dharmaatdawn 7 months ago
michael moore aren't you a rich white man? it feels as though we are hearing some freudian projections about his own fear or realization that he is out of touch with his audience.
slurpeeday 1 year ago
@slurpeeday sigh, tired old angle. engage with his ideas and you will get somewhere. These personal attacks are all the right seems to have left.
sad shit.
tristramshandy3 1 year ago
@tristramshandy3 Just because I think he's out of touch with the public doesn't mean i'm attacking personally or a right winger. In fact neither of your assumptions is true.
In case you want to defend his comments( 2:50 ) about rich white men. I thought they sounded classist, racist, and sexist though inexplicably he falls into the same category that he was criticizing.
slurpeeday 1 year ago
@slurpeeday 99 out of 100 people who talk about Moore;s hypocrisy due to his wealth are right wingers- it is the standard line of attack against him.
If you are an exception to the rule, good for you.
Now, do you have anything to say about Moore's assessment of our economic system or our society?
If so, I would be glad to engage in such a debate.
Have a nice day.
tristramshandy3 1 year ago
@tristramshandy3 Glad see you won't defend his comments, they were kind of crazy.
I thought a lot of it was accurate, albeit strongly biased. I would have added corporate involvement brought countries like china and india out of poverty.
nice day to u too
slurpeeday 1 year ago
rich white guy trash talking another rich white guy in the hopes of becoming, guess what, more rich. eat some moore.
humanity6fl9 1 year ago
why would u want a crop that only grew one season ? corporations do anything..they are more corrupt than any mob..they are totally sick and evil
xadam2dudex 1 year ago
Perfect it's going to stop? Not come on peeps
lebiew 1 year ago
The Nike CEO invited Michael Moore to the Australian open to try and sweet talk him into not exposing him.
rushindulen 1 year ago
2:50 - That's not true AT ALL - There ARE SOOOOOO many Rich Yellow, Brown , and Black Men in this World...Michael Moore lives in a sheltered lil $hit world in his head.
kaliskunk24 1 year ago
@kaliskunk24 FYI the vast majority of the 1% most wealthy people on earth are white.
julianrmartinez43 1 year ago
@julianrmartinez43 -So the Prince of Dubai, or Jordan, or Liu Yongxing, or Wong Kwong Yu, or Carlos Hilu...Of course, you know who the white ones are right? You don't even know who they are so shut up...
kaliskunk24 1 year ago
@kaliskunk24 Nice research!!! like I said before. only an extremely small portion of the top 1% of wealth in the world is not white. nice try though.
julianrmartinez43 1 year ago
Re: Agriculture - It is not a war against evolution (false) it is a war against God's creation and for your soul. As stated - predators. People want fulfillment or just to satisfy your own personal desires, demons want control and you basically are constantly bombarded with greed and desire via commercialism and idealism so much that most don't know what they want which creates confusion which created our delusion of what life is.
BrownEagle7 1 year ago
2:48 All uncooperative peoples, you stupid pig...
MagnitudePerson 1 year ago
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kiasmus 1 year ago
value nothing, wear your shield on your outside. I'm a slave :P I don't hope, and I don't want past day. I survive each night to joy in day. Enjoy. They make it dire. The fact that the leech said something means he has difficulty sleeping at night, or he wouldn't warn. It's a release from the burden of. Just know what you value in your heart, be nice to who you worship and none else, who melted you, but you know. I don't worship because I have none at the moment or ever...
returnoftheramble3 1 year ago
How about the fact that a plant that puts more energy into making food instead of reproducing makes more food for people to eat. How about the fact that there is more than enough food in the world to feed everyone but people just don't feel like sharing it. Fuck you if you think people who increase crop yields are ruining the world. Fuck you and Michael Moore in the ass.
aber105631 1 year ago
Go natural Go Hemp is it time to save the planet??
mackraceing 1 year ago
Micheal Moore BIG FAT RICH WHITE MAN....He is so FULL OF SHIT
ratsglass29 1 year ago
"I think people want money. That's the bottom line."
Can't say it better myself.
laidbacktionist 1 year ago
@laidbacktionist Agreed--that is the fundamental premise of the Free Market System. GREED is a basic human instinct that needs to be managed, and the best tool for this is a system of equality where one person cannot dictate the purchasing decisions of another.
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However, maintaining such a system is difficult. Power tends to aggregate, and inequalities begin to emerge--eventually monopolies form and the Free Market ceases to exist. We are approaching this point.
wbaltzley 1 year ago
(Cont) Hmm, why are most American companies white owned? I'm sure it has nothing to do with a few hundred years of mass European immigrants migrating to America, or to mention who benefited directly from a new set of laws in 1787? These types of Moore statements are garbage.
danielharmonizer 1 year ago
@danielharmonizer I agree, the primary issue is not that most of American companies are "run by a bunch of rich white guys," and such racist statements only serve to distract us from the real problem--Corporate influence in government.
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We need a Constitutional Amendment to abolish "Corporate Personhood" and abolish corporations from politics. Separate CORP and STATE!
wbaltzley 1 year ago
3:00 is why I can't stand Michael Moore. He either outright misleads his viewers or doesn't himself understand practices. Example: "The fact that most of these companies are run by these rich white guys...means that they are out of touch with what the majority of this world is." Is this a joke? How illogical can one be. So a specific corporation must be run to an exact proportion of what the world is comprised of? And aren't willing shareholders owners of a corporation?
danielharmonizer 1 year ago
screw the CEO's they rip off everyone!
SimplyStupidNews 1 year ago
Corporate "persons" have no morals, no ethics, and no conscience. Their only limitation is the LAW. Unfortunately the Supreme Court has decreed that corporations have the same Constitutional Rights as flesh and blood citizens. They use these "rights" to make political donations and lobby Congress. They are even WRITING legislation and handing it to Congress for a rubber stamp!
We need a Constitutional Amendment to abolish "Corporate Personhood" and ban corporations from politics
wbaltzley 1 year ago 2
Hemp Carpets mabey? Also anything made from petolium can be made with hemp,
Hemp is the Co oporations biggest (but hidden) enemy, and just so happens to be our saviour : )
stealth260785 1 year ago
If there's money init, he'll wake up...
afterdavit 1 year ago
Fridges! Ok, we shouldn't be having fridges period! Eat well by not having a fridge. believe me, this three months I have done without a fridge because it's winter! In the UK I just leave my cold stuff by a window in a plastic bag!
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junkyassmonkey 2 years ago
Lol Indian woman and her big arm waving around
WDM08002 2 years ago
the indian woman makes killing the seed sound like abortion of a baby.
happiness6589746 2 years ago 2
Well I can certainly understand. Killing seeds is just unacceptable. In a sane society such action would be considered insane. We as a civilization are on our way down, not up. We need to get rid of money all together.
The corporations of the future will do provide services and products to all people at no cost, because by doing that they ensure the survival of themselves as well as others.
axelfoley20 2 years ago
was it really necessary to repeat the advertising after nearly every part?
its really annoying
Knuhben 2 years ago 2
It makes sense why they do it though. Besides you can just skip it.
Yamsauce 1 year ago
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Seed activist????
whitesox889 2 years ago
there's activist for just about everything, because there's one person who cares about something and then another person trying to destroy it for whatever reason. makes sense.
turnstoGOLD 1 year ago
I have to respect Ray Anderson. He comes across as an intelligent, well-spoken, and very moral man. He may not really be that way, I know, but I hope that he is. In a world dominated bysoulless people, we need more like the person Ray Anderson seems to be here.
thirtysilver 2 years ago 40
@thirtysilver No what we need is Revolutionaries or peoples like Jacque Fresco, Hugo Chavez, other anti-imperialists !
MagnitudePerson 1 year ago
@thirtysilver I agree. But you know something. I'm a hard person to surprise, and yet, he surprised me. Because of the way my mind works, i find it hard to understand or relate to people who have 180-degree moral epiphanies. I've certainly had my own share of "eye-opening experiences" regarding some of the every-day customs that Americans take part in, and that i too have taken part in. But, how could a person like Marc Barry ever change his mind? ...
vclxrr 1 year ago
@thirtysilver Perhaps my correlation of Marc Barry being like a version of Ray Anderson when he was younger is in error. Perhaps. But, if a person believes that something is right and just, then why would they suddenly start believing that they had been diametrically wrong previously after reading one book? We're talking about a complete shift in the man's philosophy of life! Hmmmm.
vclxrr 1 year ago
-Stares down on humanity-
v.v
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SelamatJarin2012 2 years ago
you are so right... who is the boulé boy that spammed this comment? Dick suckers.
Avabz 2 years ago
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Plundering illegal? Possession is 9/10ths the law! It's the darwinian extistentialism age. Do whatever you want and the strongest and smartest win and survive.
chaospoet 2 years ago
But today's idea of human strength and intelligence is like a strong fire burning in an igloo. The hotter and brighter it gets, the more you will destroy your house.
Reflection888 2 years ago 3
More like do whatever you want and we wipe ourselves out, most likely.
caelestis356 2 years ago
legal "precedent" is 9/10 of the law, most make this same mistake, because of the repetition of this misnomer.
Because someone comes into your house and takes possession of your wallet, does not entitle them to legally defend there ownership of this item.
Simirial 2 years ago 2
Zeek Heil !!! Heil !!! Heil !!! Dick.
jayflo92008 2 years ago
In nature a species designed as a predator is only an opportunist.Taking only what it needs when an opportunity compromises its prey.
Humans are the only species that will extend the predatory act beyond that behavior....and that process can lead to the plundering of prey and/or resources......
Neither the strongest nor the smartest survival in the long run. It is in fact the most "adaptable" of species that ultimately wins and survives..which requires a balance within its environment...
jacopman 2 years ago 11
It's truely ironic that the filmmaker downplays the motives of profit as almost inherently evil, but on every other clip of this documentary asks for money to be donated to his website because if out of all the downloads of this documentary - he wouldn't have to make this appeal. HE. not the 200 other people that worked on this film ? Ironic. Without money I guess he can't make more films. Micheal Moore is a rich white man!!!!!!!! There are many things inherently wrong with corporations but not
KronantheBarbarian 2 years ago
2:49
What a racist statement. Rasist and foolish. So most business leaders are rich white men, and since most of the world is not rich, white, and male, that means these men are incapible of seeing various situations around the world and understanding them? Mooron based his statement on race and wealth alone, so he is a racist.
It can be said that PEOPLE can make choices without understanding their full impact, and that applies to everyone, but not because of their race or income.
BelieveIt1051 2 years ago
What are they doing for the Environment? Not Much.
What are they doing to the Environment? A lot.
ThoughtOnFire222 2 years ago 2
STOP THE GREED
altha2008 2 years ago 4
All this is complicated multi-level deception spanning many decades of modern US/World history. In the center you have greedy financial interests of US and international bankers.
Average people are simply paid slaves who, however, can not buy anything from iPod to house without credit or loan. Average people are lied to about everything all the time!
I dont know where you start fixing things. But I believe we are approaching some culminating point. Something big is coming.
ComancheChiefSD 2 years ago 5
Well Said!! cheers
GnRrocker 2 years ago
What, complete finnancial collapse?
The credit system has few flaws for so much progress and productivity it helps create. Loan providers are right to check into those they lend to. They are either the owners of that money or those entrusted with other people's money. They should be certain that those they lend to are able to pay it back.
And no, you don't need credit to buy things. There is this thing called "saving your money" you know. Credit is just buying something you pay for later.
BelieveIt1051 2 years ago
You know how long...I would have to save...from my shitty job...just to buy a fridge? lol.
.kandrea..
turnstoGOLD 1 year ago
One paycheck (depending on the fridge). You can get a Haier 1.7 cu. ft. Compact Refrigerator & Freezer for about $85.00 at Walmart.
And if your job is so shitty then why don't you find a better one?
BelieveIt1051 1 year ago
If I have a family of six then why would I do something as stupid as buying a compact refrigerator?
also If I have a family of six and nothing higher than a highschool education who's gonna hire me for more than 9dollars an hour besides for a customer service call center that has the turn over rate of....McDonalds.
that's ignorant dude.
.kandrea..
turnstoGOLD 1 year ago
Well you said "a" fridge. Be more specific next time. Anyway, even if you bought a $1,200 fridge, you'd still only have to save up about 3 checks (and that's with taking other bills into account). Plus, most places will let you pay them back in small, monthly installments.
How many family members you have is not a question employers ask in an interview. In fact, some states forbid them from asking it. All they want to know is if you have a reliable mode of transportation.
BelieveIt1051 1 year ago
And I don't know what places would hire a highschool graduate for more than $9 an hour because I'm a college graduate who can get over $12 an hour. Why don't you find out by applying for better jobs in your area. Or don't apply, and stay in your shitty job. It makes no difference to me.
BelieveIt1051 1 year ago
idk why im trying to spread light on you, you dont know anything about me or the area i live in lol.
turnstoGOLD 1 year ago
I don't know either, since you obviously aren't educated enough to "spread" light on anyone. All you know how to do is bash the greatest economic system in the world simply because you are too stupid and/or lazy to take advantage of it.
BelieveIt1051 1 year ago
You win and you lose, you DON'T GET TARP FUNDS!!!! oh wait, sorry, just thinking out loud.
hiphopsocnroc 2 years ago
i think the consumers have forgotten they have the ultimate power by buying the wrong products
shortgaurd 2 years ago 31
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i know, it's like they have forgotten that money is more powerful/important than individual.
WesSideCali 2 years ago
@shortgaurd consumer choice is limited based on the size of their paycheck and the information available. Walmart likes to locate in small towns where they can take advantage of large pockets of the uneducated poor. This drives the small business owners out of business--creating even more poor people for Walmart to feed on.
wbaltzley 1 year ago 2
@wbaltzley "where they can take advantage of large pockets of the uneducated poor." Can you please clarify what you mean by this? This statement seems highly contradictory.
shortgaurd 1 year ago
@shortgaurd People in rural areas (small towns) tend to have lower incomes and less education than those in urban areas. Although more spread out than those in urban areas, people in small towns constitute a considerable part of the population.
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Walmart seems like a good deal to those in small towns because they can do their shopping without traveling to a dozen different stores scattered across several towns--however they don't see the long-term harm it causes.
wbaltzley 1 year ago
@wbaltzley correct however you said that the uneducated poor have large pockets. If they are poor they would not have large pockets (meaning much money). Furthermore, if they are uneducated they would make even less money.
shortgaurd 1 year ago
@shortgaurd he he he..."large pockets"...now I get it :)
wbaltzley 1 year ago
@shortgaurd But they controlled by the media and commercials, bought schools, private shit, etc. , so u cant use that argument anymore.
MagnitudePerson 1 year ago
@shortgaurd Unfortunately the way society and the economy is structured, not all people have the choice to buy the "right" products. For instance due to the constant decreasing of the real wage, people are forced to buy the cheapest products in order to make ends meet. Most of those times those cheap products were made inexpensively due to the chemical processes that produced them.
julianrmartinez43 1 year ago
@shortgaurd The problem with the concept of "voting with your dollars," is this- your vote doesn't count for 100% of vote - it counts for 10% or 5% or less if you're poor. Also people without a lot of money don't have many options on how to "vote" with their dollars. If it's sold at walmart for less, then the poor have no choice if they want to have whatever it is (food, blankets for their home, chairs to sit in etc.)
StinkadoodlePie 1 year ago 2
@StinkadoodlePie So you propose everyone has an equal share? So if I make a million dollars and blow it on alcohol I STILL deserve an equal share? The share you have in capitalism is how much you are willing to save. If you're too stupid to save more money it's your own damn fault.
msredalbert1 1 year ago
@msredalbert1 I don't propose that everyone has an equal share. I propose that everyone has an equal VOTE. Your shareholdings should have nothing to do with how much influence you have on the government.
And people aren't always poor because they're "too stupid" to save money. Sometimes they're too homeless, or too discriminated against or have too much cancer to save money. And people with those monetary setbacks shouldn't be entitled to have less of a vote.
StinkadoodlePie 1 year ago
@StinkadoodlePie I live in the USA so to those that don't this might not apply to you. You probably work harder because americans are lazy and stupid and will take every handout they can get. Just one example is the commercials I hear all of the time that 1 in 8 americans struggle with hunger. lol That is 12.5 percent. Now they are saying 1 in 6, but it doesn't matter anyways. Another statistic 91% of americans use cell phones. HA That is a 3.5% overlap. So really why are they poor?
shortgaurd 1 year ago
@shortgaurd i do wish they would have phone booths like they used to, and make cell phones a luxury item again. not a necessity. how do you do that? change the nation's zeitgeist to where they all start giving up cell phones in masses. when the majority of the nation doesn't have one, it stops becoming a necessity. the same is true for cars. its all about a thing called relative poverty vs. absolute poverty.
mathdude28 1 year ago
@shortgaurd Not that I disagree that americans can be lazy, but we do have poor people as well. For instance, on the cell phone thing - where I live a cell phone plan is cheaper than a home phone, and you NEED some phone in order to work.
StinkadoodlePie 1 year ago
@shortgaurd This is true and the primary reason is that we don't see our economic acts as being political acts. Americans are consumers of many things especially the world's resources.
ChrisDutch 1 year ago
I think these corporations forget sometimes that the Consumer has the ultimate power and therefore can stop these corporations from doing their dirty deeds.
bigmofodeal 2 years ago
I think our society has been a bit hard on the puritans...
lotuselisel 2 years ago
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GoddardRaines 2 years ago
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spy guy is soul less scumbag- i hope he dies miserable
Beanmaster73 2 years ago
looks like ultimatly the human path of progress will lead us to our demise, sometimes I think as a species we have failed this planet and our universe, we dont deserve to be the dominant species in this planet.
nemsison 2 years ago
Sustainable carpet = HEMP
zeitgeisthero 2 years ago 5
why would a spy go on tv?
perfect example of corproate folly
bullbunnies 2 years ago 2
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The whole concept of the word "rich" is subjective... by vary definition it means a minority. if everyone had it, it would cause inflation to match how much they have, so that again only a few are rich and the majority are poor... by definition
rfry 2 years ago 2
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rfry 2 years ago
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why the fuck is michael moore making it a racial issue. man sometimes i cant stand that fat fuck, news flash, the white man is not evil, just so happens that a few are. STOP bashing people for race, bash them based on what they do, because theyre not doing anything in the name of the "white man", theyre doing what theyre doing in the name of MONEY. Okay mikey boy, please refrain from racially divisive remarks, PROCEED>
LakersSOCA 2 years ago
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LakersSOCA 2 years ago
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The rats are jumping ship.
CHEMRISK - a research company hired by the Corn Refiners has recently taken down it's YouTube page.
The removal was in response to negative public perception resulting from the high-fructose corn syrup ad campaign. Apparently it has become a liability to defend the sweetener.
See the last remaining ChemRisk video at CornRefinersAssoc on YouTube.
BeaucoupRed 2 years ago
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The rats are jumping ship.
CHEMRISK - a research company hired by the Corn Refiners has recently taken down it's YouTube page.
The removal was in response to negative public perception resulting from the high-fructose corn syrup ad campaign. Apparently it has become a liability to defend the sweetener.
See the last remaining ChemRisk video at CornRefinersAssoc on YouTube.
BeaucoupRed 2 years ago
Marc Barry is a baller.
jrunner152 2 years ago
I don't believe that guy with the spiky hair.
Habitually233 2 years ago
LOL same. haha he made me laugh though. might be true might now who knows
allthetimerap 2 years ago
Of course its bloody true..these people tap phones/bug houses to find out their competitors strategy..industrial espionage
MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
So glad Michael Moore said it first.
Godsblack 2 years ago
Somebody like you wont be in jail, the law of reciprocity will decide your fate, you will end up just like the Orangutan, Whooping Crane and Marmot, and reap what you have sown.
Godsblack 2 years ago 2