@IOSAMURAI perchè naruto???(che poi sul mio profilo c'è l'immagine di Vagabond)...ah, comunque il mio commento lo volevo togliere perchè a una seconda occhiata mi sono effettivamente accorto che non hai torto. non so perchè, ma non è stato cancellato
This is definitely not authentic Iaido. Some "master" branded it "Iaido" probably and you bought into the scam. American martial art market is filled with them. "Speed drill indeed"...
this is disturbing...It's a karate dojo. Only Karate says, "osu" and the dude says it near the end. the juban is not supose to be visible, it's underwear, you're not suppose to see it.
Well, you have to give the guy some credit for doing this blindfolded.
But seriously - I miss that type of training in my iaido practice. We sometimes practice katas in pairs, especially uke-nagashi, but this type of freestyle fencing is not there. Looks kendo-like indeed.
Mmmmm this certainly doesn't look like iaido at all, looks more like kendo, which path of iaido are un been taught? I ask because i am a iaidoka and the first thing we ever learn is setei iai and the second thing we learn is kodo ryu and none of those involves combat as iaido is the art of fast killing an enemy or enemies asap. On the other hand kendo is what happens when u "miss" ur chance of killing with iaido and the other swordsman is ready to fight. ^^
what good did it do either of you to argue on youtube postings about an art that both of you are clearly disrespecting.
if you had an ounce of integrity and understood the philosophy of the art, you'd put aside your testosterone filled typing and take a spoonful of humility.
I think it's interesting, when pragmatists discuss old japanese arts and the philosophy behind it, because it gives some new, modern aspects, which demystifys the ancient combatr concept and makes it adaptive for modern conflicts or combats.
Um, I really don't mean to say anithing bad, but it's like you didn't really try to show where you cut the other. I mean sometimes you just went to let the swords meet and created like unnesecary moves. Well not like I'm an expert, I just learn by myself. It's just that if you are in a sword fight you try to kill the enemy as fast as you can,
nice kumetachi ... i like how there was a lot of soft blocking and pushing back and forth and how u managed to make it quite fluid even tho u guys lost the rhythm here and there ... still very impressive nonetheless ... fyi for all u haters if ur gona talk trash save it for pm cuz i doubt u guys can do much better.
I don't know what the hell that was, but it sure as hell wasn't Iaido. I smell McDojo. I would normally tell you to get out now, but info you posted said this was for a Nidan test, and it's been my experience that when someone's been at a McDojo long enough to receive a Dan, they won't listen to anyone telling them what they've been studying is garbage.
btw when i say sword to sword i should correct myself. i mean "similar to this speed drill". it might be different else where but my sensei wouldnt allow something of this nature with live blades ever and it would have no practicality if used in kendo jigeiko anyway. also i hate scratching my iai. i just imported a new one and i wont be hitting it on anything to vigourously. it cost $3000au ......... still nice choreography.
well i make almost 2k a week and i love iaido and kendo so... why get something i dont want? i wanted it from japan, high quality and authentic, so i got it. im hardly a moron for wanting the best. also i dont think getting a razor sharp weapon is a plus. even though mine came sharp and i expect most do, if you use it in class you are expected to have dulled it.
no, what i mean is that it was made by a japanese guy and hewn from a pile of Taiwanese buffalo shit. Its an iaito yes, not a lil tanto or anything. im just picky about where my gear is made. except for shinai because they break anyway.
wtf? you were saying yours was "razor sharp" as if it was a good thing. dickhead. its not a useless gimmick, you have no idea. do you even do the sport. im about to become an instructor you dickwad and im only 18. i researched it and the price includes a license display array and certificate of authenticity, which isnt from china... and it isnt machine made. stick ur razor sharp l6 bainite shit up ur ass, dumbfuck.
... no im not actually retarded. i call it a sport because that's wat it is. martial art/sport watevr i compete in tournaments, similar to doing matches in soccer or sumthing so i consider it a sport as well. no one at my dojo uses a katana? i didnt even know that was allowed. mayb the reason is that iaito are GENERALLY cheaper. why the fuck do you take issue with my purchases? if can afford then why not buy??? are u kendoka?
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martial arts are a codified set of training for use in combat
they are NOT sports
"mayb the reason is that iaito are GENERALLY cheaper" so you are saying you will pay 3k for aluminum from japan (that came sharp even tho it isnt supposed to be ) because its "authentic" but you wont take a l6 bainite for half as much thats a fully functional sword ?
your one of those XMA types that needs i feather sword that u can toss around arent you?
Hmmmm. its funny that i google the first part of your comment and i find its almost word for word, the definition from wikipedia. you definitely know your stuff. the reason it is sharp is that the one i bought is hard enough to keep an edge. most cant be sharp and dont come sharp because they aren't hard enough. what isnt fully functional about mine?
i have been doing kendo and iaido since i was 9. the insurance only lets adults instruct so i am now. im better than u and i dont gaf about ur view
Um.... how can i do iaido without drawing a live blade? i dont use bokken. i am only allowed to instruct now as im an adult. obviously any kendo states of mind havent rubbed off on u, because you're and argumentative dick. it came sharp and was marketed as an iaito. the place has two sections nihonto and iaito as well as accessories etc. mine was from the iaito section. u would argue with the makers of the sword... ur a gimp. fuck off.
U DUMB FUCKING IDIOT! do u just fucking research kendo on the net or something? u got ur terminology wrong dumbass. a shinai is NOT a "real fucking sword" how the fuck can 4 pieces of bamboo strapped together be "fully sharp" you do kendo jigeiko (sparring) with a shinai not a sword and a shinai is made out of bamboo staves and costs about $40!!!
how little i know huh? you learn what a shinai is from lesson 1...
"for someone who is a supposed teacher... you dont even know terminology..."-haha!
there is absolutely nothing you can say to me now to regain any credibility you may have had. absolutely wrecked. obviously no experience in a dojo. you mistype "shinai"? bullshit. you didnt know what it was and just hurriedly put it in the comment without researching thoroughly. poser. dojo name;
ユイ シダ の 黒 剣道. there is nothing "mcdojo" about it. come and play, when you learn how. haha.
i'm legal in my adoptive country so suck shit eh. 9yrs+ exp VS internet fag.
You are running on nothing. Your credibility is shattered. You are a liar and fancy yourself, "king of youtube". Does it make you feel good to try and argue with actual professionals? By no means do I consider myself to be fully trained. I have a lifetime more to learn, but you are just pretending you're informed.
I think I'm going to reference your kind of arrogance to my class, as a example of an unnecessarily bloated ego. I suggest you do start kendo though. Fix you up a bit.
you make a mistake... are called on it and proven to be fraudulent and then because of 1 poor choice of term (entirely wrong in this instance) your original argument is gone?
do you still want to dodge why you payed 3000 dollars for a sharp iaito even tho it is supposed to be dull?
Listen my dear, I didn't make any mistake. I bought what I intended to buy, it feels better than any other weapon I've ever held and it can be used in iaido. It came sharp, because it could be sharp but was still marketed as an iaito not a nihonto. it has a wave shaped hamon which is usually never on any iaito and was advertised as being perfect for tameshigiri as well, which explains why it was sharp i guess. I dont do tameshigiri so i dulled it but still kept it looking awesome. have u held 1?
Child? I might only be 18 but I'm quite sure I'm quite a bit more experienced than you.
What skill do you have? Have you done any martial art ever?
Did you completely ignore what I said about tameshigiri? I suggest you research that one next before you make any more quips about the purpose of another persons weapon.
I bought what I wanted.
I can use it.
It looks better than the others.
It has better balance.
It's properly hand made, including the saya, which came with a hanko.
all of these are qualities of a sword... not an iaito... sure u bought what u meant too?
"which is usually never on any iaito and was advertised as being perfect for tameshigiri as well," an iaito is a dull practice sword... NOT FOR CUTTING it would only be marketed as a cutter to people ignorant of what they are buying... like yourself i see...
Yes, ur the expert i suppose... I really see how i was the ignorant one. i should have said, "why the fuck is this marketed as a (uber-technical-term) cutter?" Mayb they would fuck over gaijin like urself but not someone who can ask the questions.
if you dont do tameshigiri but like the design and feel, why not use for iaido? iaido is essentially kata and drawing sequences, feel is all that matters and my old one was nothing compared to this. do you think its hard to dull it? idiot. get sum exp
"if you dont do tameshigiri but like the design and feel, why not use for iaido?" because iaido is done with an iaito (imitation sword) to prevent injury and allow focus on form
"do you think its hard to dull it? idiot. get sum exp" if its for tameshigiri YES, extrememly hard... seeing as you are destroying the blade geometry
btw you cant call me gaijin... you arent japanese either...
and by all means i would love for you to clear up some uber technical terms for us.
start with : MOROHA-ZUKURI
or KATA-KIRIHA-ZUKURI
or maybe you shouldnt presume to know more than someone who did nothing more than attract attention to your lack of knowledge...
"iaido is essentially kata and drawing sequences" thank you for this i appreciate a beginners words to explain the complicated study of iaido as simple ideas
Explain to me how 9years of experience is novice? ur a complete fucking idiot, i still maintain that you internet research everthing you spill here. did you see the "essentially"? as in, on a blunt level, as it appears. cunt. tell me what exp u have other than wikipedia... u would think i need to clarify
"terms" with you? to you they're terms, to me they are words dumb fuck. you are nothing, does it make you feel good to pose as an expert?
Would a novice go to so much trouble when they could get any iaido locally and it would serve there purposes just fine?
脇差 かたきりはずくり わきざし are usually mass produce for tourists but can be used in kata and several forms are used in kendo but not until at least advanced dan. was used for protection and 切腹 "ritual suicide".
もろ刃 ずくり is literally double sided blade. not used in my martial art and i only have heard of. there are several other types.
"Would a novice go to so much trouble when they could get any iaido locally and it would serve there purposes just fine? " you misspell here... but its clear u mean iaiTo now if what you bought came sharp... it is NOT an iaito. so as a novice who bought something he cant use at the dojo, you had to dull it...
by your reasoning, is my sword an iaito? Why not? It was purpose made for several things. Sold as part of an iaito range, by people with a greater knowledge swords than you or i. I checked it out and the reason it comes sharp is because of the way it is made, its visibly folded and has hamon which was made as it was forged and is not printed, machine made or bad quality. Other "imitation" swords cannot maintain the same balance and feel as this.
"its visibly folded and has hamon which was made as it was forged and is not printed, machine made or bad quality." then what you bought IS NOT AN IAITO
it was intended for use in iaido, among other things. if you want to be a picky jackass, it WAS technically a shinken. but is now dulled, therefore for all intents and purposes, it is an iaito. go to a martial arts supplier and srsly feel the difference between an iaito and a "real sword" the alloy makes it much nicer to feel. if you had the choice you would get my iaito instead of a standard one. so japan doesnt make iaito...? there is a law against swords not made in traditional way... idiot
I fail to see what you mean...? im hardly fabricating anything. Most of Japan, if not all, DOES have a law against swords and naginata counterparts not made traditionally. One cannot buy an just any old iaito from japan. Mine took almost three months to make and i expect it was easier making a perfect blade and selling it as is, than dulling it, as the sharpening process is an important part of the actual blade making process. I haven't told you any lies...i hardly need to lie to internet people
i pasted the quote you made up me saying.. here it is again "so japan doesnt make iaito...? there is a law against swords not made in traditional way... idiot "
SO DONT FABRICATE MY WORDS
"Most of Japan, if not all, DOES have a law against swords and naginata counterparts not made traditionally"
can you explain to me what the law would care when an iaito isnt even made sharp...
and a simple google search of iaito jp turns up tonnes of iaito made in japan...
...do you think i roughly ground my sword with a chisel until it was dull??
I did not and would not have bought a fancy weapon just to wreck it. it could still be considered semi-sharp as i want to get the edge back eventually. but technically it is dull. furthermore, as i have recently been told by my sensei. sharp swords CAN be used in iaido, just not by beginners. He said that if i felt i could do it safely then he saw no problem with it.
the progression of iaido is bokken, iaito then shinken. understand the definitions of the two metal swords and wooden one. mine IS and iaito. it does not maintain a sharp edge. the difference from MOST iaito is that it's not made out of a shitty cheap alloy. or chinese made in a compression machine.
if i made a salad sandwich and took away the bread is it still a sandwich? no... so if i bought a nihonto and took away the edge, is it still a nihonto?
according to me, most people are not going to start iaido with an iaito. bokken is way cheaper and why wouldnt you draw still draw it? id like to see you tell ur sensei that there is not much point in "sliding" your bokken out. maybe just boycott drawing. its not an integral part of iaido or anything...dickhead. if it ever was sharp? you are so fukn dumb. tell me what an iaito is with a deeper definition than "imitation sword" if your so smart.fanboy..? tell me what kendo/iaido experience u hav?
"id like to see you tell ur sensei that there is not much point in "sliding" your bokken out" so you believe that sliding your bokken through your belt is adequate practice for a draw from an actual saya?
you need a more indepth definition than imitation sword? i know ur slow, but thats sad...
what does my experience have to do with the fact that you dont know what you are talking about?
i have never claimed to be an authority... but you seem to think i would have to be to contest your error
thats why ur a dick. because you are finding fault in a technique meant to emulate an actual drawing. it may not be optimum practice but it IS practice & thats better than nothing.
ok, you fail to provide a more indepth explanation of an iaito. i merely wanted to see what you knew. you know that its an imitation. good for you.
with ur response you basically tell me you have no exp, shinai-boy.
ur not an authority. you didnt claim you were but u talk withan an arrogance that suggests u think u r
thats because i am always ever so happy to educate the laymen that the so called "experts" such as yourself ( laughable at best) dont know anymore than most people
my proof is in the thought that because what u bought said "iaito" on the box that it is one... even though you have since said it is also a nihonto
and i did type an ai instead of ken DEAL WITH IT.
"with ur response you basically tell me you have no exp," you make another incorrect assumption that would make your sensei cry
hmmm, and what position are you to educate anyone. all of your information has come from google searches... what do i own then? its an iaito. it is a blunt weapon that i use for iaido. i bought my iaito sharp and made it dull, but in a way that the edge could still be recovered.
i make an incorrect assumption??? yet you still wont say that you have any experience, shinai-boy... おまえ わ 面倒い です... 凄く 面倒い... lol at least i have a sensei...
"hmmm, and what position are you to educate anyone" a correct one
"what do i own then? its an iaito" so you think by destroying a nihonto you have created an iaito? sounds like a salad sandwich that you made without bread, to use your terrible euphemism.
"made it dull, but in a way that the edge could still be recovered" the complete absurdity of this statement is laughable... and not even an armchair expert would agree with you...
"lol at least i have a sensei" too bad he teaches you nonsense
Didnt destroy anything. modified. was a good saying that was easy for you to understand.
your an armchair expert. I have a special little stone, you know. its very expensive and it is not particularly difficult to recover the sharpness. mine is like a really overused nihonto as opposed to a blunt iaito.
you have no exp, evidently no life, your argument basis is quoting and attempted raping of my text and you fail to submit anything to ur own credibility. ur an internet fag with no idea...
you just told me you modified your nihonto in a way that allows you to use it safely as an iaito, that it didn't damage it, change its shape, or permanently remove its edge. you also did this by yourself at home? thats fantastic, but i assure you that i would be interested to research a master smith doing something this amazing im sure that you just got lucky.
or you have no clue what you are talking about and have ruined your blade.
"I have a special little stone" katana are polished with many
yep took me a WHOLE 2 days... it really wasnt that difficult at all...
i know that several stones of varying prices are used in the polishing process but i hardly need it when its made. the recovery is the same as just sharpening a blunt blade. im not yielding to ur idiocy
to remove the edge from a nihonto would destroy it. you cannot dull it without removing steel. remove steel and you are changing the shape/weight of authenticity you so desperately crave. /\ _ /\ / \ => / \ -X-> / \
/ \ / \ / \
its a one way journey to dull the blade you would be removing the very part it needs for stability...
oh? you've done this before? or just "researched" it?
you seem to have the ridiculous idea that i'm removing a large amount of the blade. im not. i've hardly dulled it to a point where the weight or "stability" is drastically changed...
and fucking lol; "the absurdity of your argument is quite apparent"... you sound like a fucking 15year old... do you have a doctorate of "sounding like a dim witted fucktard"
my blade is fine. i know what i am doing. you do not. your a posing bitch with no exp..
If you'd know ANYTHING about physics you'd know that blunting a sword and later sharpening _will_ make it different from what it was at the beginning. To blunt it you remove the edge, i.e. remove steel. To turn it back to it's original, you would have to reforge the whole blade. Yes, you can make it sharp, but it won't be just like an untouched nihonto, as Creation said.
Oh and im supposed to know that your mother died from cancer? Dude, im sorry that she did, but dont bash on me cause i explained something to you on youtube, geez.
there is not sword to sword contact in iaido. at least at my dojo. also typically one whose going for nidan would use their live blade not a bokken. also kendo kills every martial art.
I found this video interesting. When you say "kendo kills every martial art," what do you mean?
Is kendo useful for other martial arts where you don't have a sword, like judo? What about Iaido? Just looking for some insight. I'm going to watch my first kendo/iaido class on Saturday and I'd be interested to hear your opinion.
If there's no sword to sword contact why would there be blocks?
Some sensei will prefer to (occasionally) make use of exercises in which you don't just hack at thin air.
I do both kendo and Iaido, and I must say, doign Iaido as well really does help improve your Kendo, in maneuverability and attaining the correct state of mind. A lot of people consider them to be a part of one another.
it looks very interesting and nice...But i can see some "lost strikes", i mean, strikes who don't have any reason, and are only used for strike both bokken.
no one ever wheres body armor on every day bases, and if you think its not useful in a real fight why do think all special forces and militaries arond the world use martial arts!!! DICKFACE rajmaster001
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All of these fightings sports(karate, iaido, iaijutsu, kung-fu, judo, etc), are SPORTS and nobody will never use them in a real fight anymore, these are for fun. so think it again before you write gun is better faggot.
I'm sorry but I would completely Disagree with you. 1. Its not a sport , Its a art , 2. I've seen Karate in real fights and have used karate in real fights. 3. The point in Karate is to stop the fight before it happens. So, yeah the end , Good Demo none the less.
Ya get into a bunch of fights then i suppose. you must really have a record to be able to say that kung fu and karate are useless. i mean, you must of been around the whole world stompin ass to make a claim like that. Next time drop by a dojo and try talkin shit.
oh, do us all a favour and record it and post it. i wanna see how bad you get it.
no one ever wheres body armor on every day bases, and if you think its not useful in a real fight why do think all special forces and militaries arond the world use martial arts!!! DICKFACE rajmaster001
Many of them are used in real fights. Though if you talking about military battles then i doubt they use it much or at all. Throughout my school years ive seen it used dozens of times. One kid goes after the other, the kid who takes martial arts always won
It's good looking, I agree with you. But completely ineffective???? Never! Though it's not a realistic technique training, it's training of speed, reaction and the sixth sense - so I guess it is a very effective training ;) . She tells you, that it's speed training for her 2nd Dan-examination. It was never ment to be a fighting simulation. But you can only be precise and faster than your opponent, if you needn't think about what you're doing. The way is to be the sword, to give up yourself...
to perform something set by advance, aiming at the blade instead, of the oponent is no kendo, kenjutsu or iaido in my opinion. There is no "zanshin" training here, just hitting two wooden sticks together. Perhaps the most interesting part of it is just to strech wrists... at last it's my opinion.
As far as breaking a sword goes, I guess you guys didn't see the Mythbusters attempts to break a sword with a sword. (The vid has been removed from U-tube). Their high speed cameras showed incredable deformation at impact, but a good sword can't cut through another good sword, even edge to edge. A good sword will, however, slice through a cheap sword. It's worth finding the full version of that Mythbusters episode.
Lol everyone argues about how its not a real sword fighting strategy and oh that would never work, this is how you do it and stuff like that. Did you ever consider that its the year 2008 and you dont even use a sword to fight anymore lol, so who gives a crap if its right or not
Forget you....sowrd fighting will always remain an ancient traditional art.....guns are nothing but a sheer excuse becasue the japanese sword fighting was so pure and amazing.....they needed guns to beat them...
Fyi before you cram any more nonsense into your head, real samurai wouldn't have moved anything like this, they would be burdened by the armour they wore and their attacks were only good for killing in one or two moves in close combat. Along with the samurai who weren't foot soldiers btw there were archers and men who used weapons similar to spears who were far deadlier than a samurai. Other than that a lot of samurai were corrupt men that were drunk with power. Stupid kids.
A Yoroi ain't that heavy when you put it on so you won't become much slower. but as you said, they would NOT hack and slash like that.
Samurai was just the Nobs of Japanese Society, diplomats etc. And they used all kinds of weapons in battle, but the sword is the one with most symbolical meaning in the samurai culture. So the man carrying the spear was most likely a Samurai or in depserate times a peasant.
that was pretty freakin awesome. rarely see any videos up of people actually go at it... (has anyone else thought about how this vid would look like if those were lightsabers? lol)
to some of the comments along the lines of "if you blocked an attack like that it would dent the blade etc etc" would you give it time to think if somebody was trying to slice you in half... or would you just put your sword in the way????
I'd agree but for demonstration purposes it was impressive. Also, it was for speed training so it allows an individual to get used to something swinging at them which IS vital for an actual fight, though they probably should have used actual combative techniques.
Actual blocks with kenjutsu do not involve the cutting edge obviosly because that would of course crack or dent the edge considerably, instead blocking was done with the broad part of the blade or on the side of the cutting edge.
Yes, sustained direct blows to the edge of a katana will more than likely result in the blade getting broken.
However, sword battles were never meant to last very long; all of those Hollywood battles are just that... Hollywood.
Blade fighting was about speed. There was much more parrying, dodging, maneuvering, and countering than the straight out blocking that you saw in this video.
what the fuck was that?you know using a katana like that woud utterly destoy the blade.thats fucked up.i expected for it to be bad but good god that was horrible.plus the moves itself were primitive
That...was incredible! That is exactly what I've been wanting to see, serious fighting! Not some two step, pause, breath, hit, blink attack! Furious, fast, vigorous! I must sound like that announcer guy from Street Fighters, but I'm dead serious this has made my day!
To train for a one cut kill only would be a poor tactical choice. You can't assume you will kill or be killed on the first clash. This training is primarily to increase stamina and develop a fighting spirit. Of course experts like yourself have no need of childish drills like these right?
thats actually not kendo, its a form of kenjutus (old style of way of the sword) kendo is alot more modern and sportish and most dojos try to use some of the basic kata to keep the old way alive
Do means way, Jutsu means technique. Ken is weapon, usually referring to sword, but not always. The only real difference between an Iai style and a Ken style is that an Iai style includes the art of drawing and sheathing.
higuys.. sorry my mistake.... this is actually a speed drill from kendo/kenjitsu... i'm learning all three (kendo/kenjitsu/iaido) and got the speed drill all mixed up... so this is not an iaido speed drill... it's actually kenjitsu... hehehee.. sorry for the confusion.. ;)
This is not a real martial art, quite obviusly, It could be theatrics practice but this is not Iaido and most certainly is not kendo, I belong to the Canadian Iaido association, if you would like real training in Iaido with a couple Very qualified sensei then your most welcome to join us.
Whatever it is, that's non Iaido. It seems much like a Kendo - Kenjitsu mix (Initial back-walking is similiar to the one in Kendo katas, and the Shome-counterattack-Shomen-counterattack sequence in the middle looks like a Kenjitsu kumitachi).
Curious to find this on Iai curriculum, but that's ok. My instructor would never have let me get away with smiling at a graduation, though. Of course, if your school isn't that strict about it, then I can't tell you you're wrong. I'm sure there's nothing vitally pedagogical about unflinching seriousness, but being a bit of a traditionalist, I tend to prefer it.
Yeah your high and mighty. These guys are nuthing compaird to you. You can even proove it with your own video showing just how skillfull you are. Maybe by watching your video (thats not on your profile or just invisible) That shows all your skill they might get some of your (invisible skill).
more of a bokken form w/ an iaido finish
sonozoltan 6 months ago
i think this is a good video.looks like alot of fun
trialsrider001 9 months ago
sick!
bcd303 9 months ago
they don't even know how to handle a bokuto.. -_-"
And a sword is not a target. There're too many strikes that only far enough to hit the opponent's sword.
Ardian1899 9 months ago
well this is nothing like Iaido, but they sure got some skills..
TheShadoweagle 1 year ago
this isnt iaido. why would you ever do a "speed" demonstration of iaido anyway?
deathmetalmaster 1 year ago
No problemcontinua a studiare vedrai che migliori bravo.
IOSAMURAI 1 year ago
Che cagata.
IOSAMURAI 1 year ago
@IOSAMURAI fallo tu allora...e cambiati il nome a questo punto
Sarva07 1 year ago
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IOSAMURAI 1 year ago
@IOSAMURAI perchè naruto???(che poi sul mio profilo c'è l'immagine di Vagabond)...ah, comunque il mio commento lo volevo togliere perchè a una seconda occhiata mi sono effettivamente accorto che non hai torto. non so perchè, ma non è stato cancellato
Sarva07 1 year ago
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IOSAMURAI 1 year ago
I don't know what this is, looks like kids coping some crap they saw in a bad movie or anime. Worthless mislabeled junk!
nhaluta 1 year ago
This is definitely not authentic Iaido. Some "master" branded it "Iaido" probably and you bought into the scam. American martial art market is filled with them. "Speed drill indeed"...
Bassai 1 year ago
this seems a coreography
asuraywolfgang 1 year ago
this is disturbing...It's a karate dojo. Only Karate says, "osu" and the dude says it near the end. the juban is not supose to be visible, it's underwear, you're not suppose to see it.
sirikit 2 years ago 2
Dosent look like real kenjutsu to me. IMO, these are karate guys 'training' with bokutos.
Ryokushindo 1 year ago
Well, you have to give the guy some credit for doing this blindfolded.
But seriously - I miss that type of training in my iaido practice. We sometimes practice katas in pairs, especially uke-nagashi, but this type of freestyle fencing is not there. Looks kendo-like indeed.
Slapdash1 2 years ago
What ryuha do you practice?
neogtrmn 2 years ago
Mmmmm this certainly doesn't look like iaido at all, looks more like kendo, which path of iaido are un been taught? I ask because i am a iaidoka and the first thing we ever learn is setei iai and the second thing we learn is kodo ryu and none of those involves combat as iaido is the art of fast killing an enemy or enemies asap. On the other hand kendo is what happens when u "miss" ur chance of killing with iaido and the other swordsman is ready to fight. ^^
baxymus 2 years ago
it's neither kendo.
zorzevic 1 year ago
thats fuckin cool man
mooseflanders57 2 years ago
kendo and creations, you are both idiots.
what good did it do either of you to argue on youtube postings about an art that both of you are clearly disrespecting.
if you had an ounce of integrity and understood the philosophy of the art, you'd put aside your testosterone filled typing and take a spoonful of humility.
i hope neither one of you are real practitioners.
thehuckabee 2 years ago 15
I think it's interesting, when pragmatists discuss old japanese arts and the philosophy behind it, because it gives some new, modern aspects, which demystifys the ancient combatr concept and makes it adaptive for modern conflicts or combats.
Horacte 2 years ago
Nice footwork none the less.
DaveTheSamurai 2 years ago
Um, I really don't mean to say anithing bad, but it's like you didn't really try to show where you cut the other. I mean sometimes you just went to let the swords meet and created like unnesecary moves. Well not like I'm an expert, I just learn by myself. It's just that if you are in a sword fight you try to kill the enemy as fast as you can,
LiutendantJack777 2 years ago 2
It's a drill, not sparring. When we actually duel, even in practice, it's nothing like this.
sethdesade 2 years ago
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Leeseuongwoo 2 years ago
It's a nice video, but doesn't seem to be related on iaido.
KatanaMaster0 3 years ago
Seems more kendo like to me.
SeijiiNakamaru 2 years ago
nice kumetachi ... i like how there was a lot of soft blocking and pushing back and forth and how u managed to make it quite fluid even tho u guys lost the rhythm here and there ... still very impressive nonetheless ... fyi for all u haters if ur gona talk trash save it for pm cuz i doubt u guys can do much better.
guyver20 3 years ago 2
sounds slightly off
iherduliekmudkips69 3 years ago
They sound fight with Bokkens, not Shinais.
PS : the soundtrack is not in the same moment than the video.
furtifjh 3 years ago
I don't know what the hell that was, but it sure as hell wasn't Iaido. I smell McDojo. I would normally tell you to get out now, but info you posted said this was for a Nidan test, and it's been my experience that when someone's been at a McDojo long enough to receive a Dan, they won't listen to anyone telling them what they've been studying is garbage.
TwilightDuality 3 years ago 10
haha lol. very true methinks.
kendokun0 3 years ago
Nju really each hit must be a HIT! with a will to kill the opponent, this is bokken hitting against bokken stuff ~_~
Aektan 3 years ago
nice
overkill555 3 years ago
btw when i say sword to sword i should correct myself. i mean "similar to this speed drill". it might be different else where but my sensei wouldnt allow something of this nature with live blades ever and it would have no practicality if used in kendo jigeiko anyway. also i hate scratching my iai. i just imported a new one and i wont be hitting it on anything to vigourously. it cost $3000au ......... still nice choreography.
kendokun0 3 years ago
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wow your a moron to spend 3 k on a iaito...
coulda bought a l6 bainite katana thats basically indestructible for that
and it comes razor sharp...
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
well i make almost 2k a week and i love iaido and kendo so... why get something i dont want? i wanted it from japan, high quality and authentic, so i got it. im hardly a moron for wanting the best. also i dont think getting a razor sharp weapon is a plus. even though mine came sharp and i expect most do, if you use it in class you are expected to have dulled it.
kendokun0 3 years ago
3k for an authentic? as in nihonto?
"i hate scratching my iai. i just imported a new one" iai would usually mean an iaito...
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
no, what i mean is that it was made by a japanese guy and hewn from a pile of Taiwanese buffalo shit. Its an iaito yes, not a lil tanto or anything. im just picky about where my gear is made. except for shinai because they break anyway.
kendokun0 3 years ago
and thats why ur a fool
l6 bainite... basically indestructible
sharp iaito = pointless
dulling an iaito = even more pointless
besides if it is sharp... it isnt even an iaito...
you arent picky about shit... you fell for a useless stupid gimmick and got jacked
ROFL
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
wtf? you were saying yours was "razor sharp" as if it was a good thing. dickhead. its not a useless gimmick, you have no idea. do you even do the sport. im about to become an instructor you dickwad and im only 18. i researched it and the price includes a license display array and certificate of authenticity, which isnt from china... and it isnt machine made. stick ur razor sharp l6 bainite shit up ur ass, dumbfuck.
kendokun0 3 years ago
wtf are you actually retarded
who in the hell would let you instruct except a McDojo
ok lets try again here
iaito = IMITATION SWORD
katana = SWORD
"wow your a moron to spend 3 k on a iaito...
coulda bought a l6 bainite katana thats basically indestructible for that
and it comes razor sharp... "
and btw worth noting... NOT A SPORT
"do you even do the sport."
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
... no im not actually retarded. i call it a sport because that's wat it is. martial art/sport watevr i compete in tournaments, similar to doing matches in soccer or sumthing so i consider it a sport as well. no one at my dojo uses a katana? i didnt even know that was allowed. mayb the reason is that iaito are GENERALLY cheaper. why the fuck do you take issue with my purchases? if can afford then why not buy??? are u kendoka?
kendokun0 3 years ago
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martial arts are a codified set of training for use in combat
they are NOT sports
"mayb the reason is that iaito are GENERALLY cheaper" so you are saying you will pay 3k for aluminum from japan (that came sharp even tho it isnt supposed to be ) because its "authentic" but you wont take a l6 bainite for half as much thats a fully functional sword ?
your one of those XMA types that needs i feather sword that u can toss around arent you?
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
Hmmmm. its funny that i google the first part of your comment and i find its almost word for word, the definition from wikipedia. you definitely know your stuff. the reason it is sharp is that the one i bought is hard enough to keep an edge. most cant be sharp and dont come sharp because they aren't hard enough. what isnt fully functional about mine?
i have been doing kendo and iaido since i was 9. the insurance only lets adults instruct so i am now. im better than u and i dont gaf about ur view
kendokun0 3 years ago
i love the assumption of superiority considering u dont even draw live blade yet.
along with that you have no possible clue as to my skill level making your bluster all the more ludicrous.
if you studied iaido and kendo, you should know iaito = imitation sword. that means it is made of aluminum or stainless steel.
they DO NOT come sharpened.
if its sharp, its no iaito
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
Um.... how can i do iaido without drawing a live blade? i dont use bokken. i am only allowed to instruct now as im an adult. obviously any kendo states of mind havent rubbed off on u, because you're and argumentative dick. it came sharp and was marketed as an iaito. the place has two sections nihonto and iaito as well as accessories etc. mine was from the iaito section. u would argue with the makers of the sword... ur a gimp. fuck off.
kendokun0 3 years ago
"Um.... how can i do iaido without drawing a live blade?" that would be with that supposed iaito you were referring too.
a live blade is a shinai a real fucking sword
fully sharp.
for someone who is a supposed teacher... you dont even know terminology...
so you dont even know how to classify what you bought without resorting to the websites labels? do you even realize how little you knows?
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
U DUMB FUCKING IDIOT! do u just fucking research kendo on the net or something? u got ur terminology wrong dumbass. a shinai is NOT a "real fucking sword" how the fuck can 4 pieces of bamboo strapped together be "fully sharp" you do kendo jigeiko (sparring) with a shinai not a sword and a shinai is made out of bamboo staves and costs about $40!!!
how little i know huh? you learn what a shinai is from lesson 1...
"for someone who is a supposed teacher... you dont even know terminology..."-haha!
kendokun0 3 years ago
ooooooh i did mis type there
good boy you caught 1 point
do you still want to dodge why you payed 3000 dollars for a sharp iaito even tho it is supposed to be dull?
or do you want to explain why your mcdojo will allow a child to teach classes.
speak to me not of kendo principles... the head traumas have caused you too much brain damage already.
please tell me the name of your dojo
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
there is absolutely nothing you can say to me now to regain any credibility you may have had. absolutely wrecked. obviously no experience in a dojo. you mistype "shinai"? bullshit. you didnt know what it was and just hurriedly put it in the comment without researching thoroughly. poser. dojo name;
ユイ シダ の 黒 剣道. there is nothing "mcdojo" about it. come and play, when you learn how. haha.
i'm legal in my adoptive country so suck shit eh. 9yrs+ exp VS internet fag.
kendokun0 3 years ago
wow and you still dodge your original argument?
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
You are running on nothing. Your credibility is shattered. You are a liar and fancy yourself, "king of youtube". Does it make you feel good to try and argue with actual professionals? By no means do I consider myself to be fully trained. I have a lifetime more to learn, but you are just pretending you're informed.
I think I'm going to reference your kind of arrogance to my class, as a example of an unnecessarily bloated ego. I suggest you do start kendo though. Fix you up a bit.
kendokun0 3 years ago
wait wait wait
you make a mistake... are called on it and proven to be fraudulent and then because of 1 poor choice of term (entirely wrong in this instance) your original argument is gone?
do you still want to dodge why you payed 3000 dollars for a sharp iaito even tho it is supposed to be dull?
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
Listen my dear, I didn't make any mistake. I bought what I intended to buy, it feels better than any other weapon I've ever held and it can be used in iaido. It came sharp, because it could be sharp but was still marketed as an iaito not a nihonto. it has a wave shaped hamon which is usually never on any iaito and was advertised as being perfect for tameshigiri as well, which explains why it was sharp i guess. I dont do tameshigiri so i dulled it but still kept it looking awesome. have u held 1?
kendokun0 3 years ago
listen child
iaito = IMITATION SWORD
if you dont know what to call something other than what u bought it as why are you teaching?
an iaito is almost always made of stainless steel or aluminum
"I bought what I intended to buy,"
you intended to buy an iaito
you bought a sword
you dulled your sword to make it appear more like an iaito.
you didnt buy what you intended... or it would come the way it should
you either didnt know what u bought, or didnt know what u needed... which do you prefer?
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
Child? I might only be 18 but I'm quite sure I'm quite a bit more experienced than you.
What skill do you have? Have you done any martial art ever?
Did you completely ignore what I said about tameshigiri? I suggest you research that one next before you make any more quips about the purpose of another persons weapon.
I bought what I wanted.
I can use it.
It looks better than the others.
It has better balance.
It's properly hand made, including the saya, which came with a hanko.
Hamon.
破家
kendokun0 3 years ago
all of these are qualities of a sword... not an iaito... sure u bought what u meant too?
"which is usually never on any iaito and was advertised as being perfect for tameshigiri as well," an iaito is a dull practice sword... NOT FOR CUTTING it would only be marketed as a cutter to people ignorant of what they are buying... like yourself i see...
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
Yes, ur the expert i suppose... I really see how i was the ignorant one. i should have said, "why the fuck is this marketed as a (uber-technical-term) cutter?" Mayb they would fuck over gaijin like urself but not someone who can ask the questions.
if you dont do tameshigiri but like the design and feel, why not use for iaido? iaido is essentially kata and drawing sequences, feel is all that matters and my old one was nothing compared to this. do you think its hard to dull it? idiot. get sum exp
kendokun0 3 years ago
"if you dont do tameshigiri but like the design and feel, why not use for iaido?" because iaido is done with an iaito (imitation sword) to prevent injury and allow focus on form
"do you think its hard to dull it? idiot. get sum exp" if its for tameshigiri YES, extrememly hard... seeing as you are destroying the blade geometry
btw you cant call me gaijin... you arent japanese either...
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
and by all means i would love for you to clear up some uber technical terms for us.
start with : MOROHA-ZUKURI
or KATA-KIRIHA-ZUKURI
or maybe you shouldnt presume to know more than someone who did nothing more than attract attention to your lack of knowledge...
"iaido is essentially kata and drawing sequences" thank you for this i appreciate a beginners words to explain the complicated study of iaido as simple ideas
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
Explain to me how 9years of experience is novice? ur a complete fucking idiot, i still maintain that you internet research everthing you spill here. did you see the "essentially"? as in, on a blunt level, as it appears. cunt. tell me what exp u have other than wikipedia... u would think i need to clarify
"terms" with you? to you they're terms, to me they are words dumb fuck. you are nothing, does it make you feel good to pose as an expert?
kendokun0 3 years ago
never posed as an expert at all.. merely pointed out that you said u bought an iaito...
u said it cost 3k$ that it came sharp.. and that you dulled it... do these sound like the actions of anyone other than a novice?
why dont you clarify what those "words" mean... and if you could explain how and why each were used...
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
Would a novice go to so much trouble when they could get any iaido locally and it would serve there purposes just fine?
脇差 かたきりはずくり わきざし are usually mass produce for tourists but can be used in kata and several forms are used in kendo but not until at least advanced dan. was used for protection and 切腹 "ritual suicide".
もろ刃 ずくり is literally double sided blade. not used in my martial art and i only have heard of. there are several other types.
kendokun0 3 years ago
"Would a novice go to so much trouble when they could get any iaido locally and it would serve there purposes just fine? " you misspell here... but its clear u mean iaiTo now if what you bought came sharp... it is NOT an iaito. so as a novice who bought something he cant use at the dojo, you had to dull it...
why do you always ignore that an
iaito is IMITATION SWORD
that means NOT SHARP
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
"iaito is IMITATION SWORD
that means NOT SHARP "
by your reasoning, is my sword an iaito? Why not? It was purpose made for several things. Sold as part of an iaito range, by people with a greater knowledge swords than you or i. I checked it out and the reason it comes sharp is because of the way it is made, its visibly folded and has hamon which was made as it was forged and is not printed, machine made or bad quality. Other "imitation" swords cannot maintain the same balance and feel as this.
kendokun0 3 years ago
"its visibly folded and has hamon which was made as it was forged and is not printed, machine made or bad quality." then what you bought IS NOT AN IAITO
thank you for finally understanding the point
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
it was intended for use in iaido, among other things. if you want to be a picky jackass, it WAS technically a shinken. but is now dulled, therefore for all intents and purposes, it is an iaito. go to a martial arts supplier and srsly feel the difference between an iaito and a "real sword" the alloy makes it much nicer to feel. if you had the choice you would get my iaito instead of a standard one. so japan doesnt make iaito...? there is a law against swords not made in traditional way... idiot
kendokun0 3 years ago
"so japan doesnt make iaito...? there is a law against swords not made in traditional way... idiot " dont fabricate words and put them in my mouth
"3k for an authentic? as in nihonto? "this is what i asked you...
"no, what i mean is that it was made by a japanese guy"
you have already said then.. it is no shinken... you have been caught in a lie
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
I fail to see what you mean...? im hardly fabricating anything. Most of Japan, if not all, DOES have a law against swords and naginata counterparts not made traditionally. One cannot buy an just any old iaito from japan. Mine took almost three months to make and i expect it was easier making a perfect blade and selling it as is, than dulling it, as the sharpening process is an important part of the actual blade making process. I haven't told you any lies...i hardly need to lie to internet people
kendokun0 3 years ago
you arent to smart are you??
i pasted the quote you made up me saying.. here it is again "so japan doesnt make iaito...? there is a law against swords not made in traditional way... idiot "
SO DONT FABRICATE MY WORDS
"Most of Japan, if not all, DOES have a law against swords and naginata counterparts not made traditionally"
can you explain to me what the law would care when an iaito isnt even made sharp...
and a simple google search of iaito jp turns up tonnes of iaito made in japan...
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
"by your reasoning, is my sword an iaito? Why not? It was purpose made for several things"
No it is not
from what you have said.. it was a nihonto you purchased for 3000 dollars and then ground the blade off of it.
to dull it enough for dojo use you are altering the dimensions of your blade and destroying the balance you bought it for
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
...do you think i roughly ground my sword with a chisel until it was dull??
I did not and would not have bought a fancy weapon just to wreck it. it could still be considered semi-sharp as i want to get the edge back eventually. but technically it is dull. furthermore, as i have recently been told by my sensei. sharp swords CAN be used in iaido, just not by beginners. He said that if i felt i could do it safely then he saw no problem with it.
kendokun0 3 years ago
"sharp swords CAN be used in iaido"
DUH thats my point...
you just cant call something that was a nihonto an iaito...
2 entirely different things...
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
the progression of iaido is bokken, iaito then shinken. understand the definitions of the two metal swords and wooden one. mine IS and iaito. it does not maintain a sharp edge. the difference from MOST iaito is that it's not made out of a shitty cheap alloy. or chinese made in a compression machine.
if i made a salad sandwich and took away the bread is it still a sandwich? no... so if i bought a nihonto and took away the edge, is it still a nihonto?
mine is an iaito, it fills every prereq...
kendokun0 3 years ago
"the progression of iaido is bokken, iaito then shinken." according to you maybe
the rest of the world usually starts with an iaito... not much point sliding a bokken outta ur obi.
so wait a sec... u can have an iaito that was a nihonto before?
"mine IS and iaito." i think u mean an
and no... if u bought a nihonto... it definitely ISNT AN IAITO
if it was ever sharp...
ever not an imitation sword
IT IS NOT AN IAITO
stupid fucking moronic fanboy doesnt know when he is beat?
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
according to me, most people are not going to start iaido with an iaito. bokken is way cheaper and why wouldnt you draw still draw it? id like to see you tell ur sensei that there is not much point in "sliding" your bokken out. maybe just boycott drawing. its not an integral part of iaido or anything...dickhead. if it ever was sharp? you are so fukn dumb. tell me what an iaito is with a deeper definition than "imitation sword" if your so smart.fanboy..? tell me what kendo/iaido experience u hav?
kendokun0 3 years ago
"id like to see you tell ur sensei that there is not much point in "sliding" your bokken out" so you believe that sliding your bokken through your belt is adequate practice for a draw from an actual saya?
you need a more indepth definition than imitation sword? i know ur slow, but thats sad...
what does my experience have to do with the fact that you dont know what you are talking about?
i have never claimed to be an authority... but you seem to think i would have to be to contest your error
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
thats why ur a dick. because you are finding fault in a technique meant to emulate an actual drawing. it may not be optimum practice but it IS practice & thats better than nothing.
ok, you fail to provide a more indepth explanation of an iaito. i merely wanted to see what you knew. you know that its an imitation. good for you.
with ur response you basically tell me you have no exp, shinai-boy.
ur not an authority. you didnt claim you were but u talk withan an arrogance that suggests u think u r
kendokun0 3 years ago
thats because i am always ever so happy to educate the laymen that the so called "experts" such as yourself ( laughable at best) dont know anymore than most people
my proof is in the thought that because what u bought said "iaito" on the box that it is one... even though you have since said it is also a nihonto
and i did type an ai instead of ken DEAL WITH IT.
"with ur response you basically tell me you have no exp," you make another incorrect assumption that would make your sensei cry
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
hmmm, and what position are you to educate anyone. all of your information has come from google searches... what do i own then? its an iaito. it is a blunt weapon that i use for iaido. i bought my iaito sharp and made it dull, but in a way that the edge could still be recovered.
i make an incorrect assumption??? yet you still wont say that you have any experience, shinai-boy... おまえ わ 面倒い です... 凄く 面倒い... lol at least i have a sensei...
kendokun0 3 years ago
"hmmm, and what position are you to educate anyone" a correct one
"what do i own then? its an iaito" so you think by destroying a nihonto you have created an iaito? sounds like a salad sandwich that you made without bread, to use your terrible euphemism.
"made it dull, but in a way that the edge could still be recovered" the complete absurdity of this statement is laughable... and not even an armchair expert would agree with you...
"lol at least i have a sensei" too bad he teaches you nonsense
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
Didnt destroy anything. modified. was a good saying that was easy for you to understand.
your an armchair expert. I have a special little stone, you know. its very expensive and it is not particularly difficult to recover the sharpness. mine is like a really overused nihonto as opposed to a blunt iaito.
you have no exp, evidently no life, your argument basis is quoting and attempted raping of my text and you fail to submit anything to ur own credibility. ur an internet fag with no idea...
kendokun0 3 years ago
you just told me you modified your nihonto in a way that allows you to use it safely as an iaito, that it didn't damage it, change its shape, or permanently remove its edge. you also did this by yourself at home? thats fantastic, but i assure you that i would be interested to research a master smith doing something this amazing im sure that you just got lucky.
or you have no clue what you are talking about and have ruined your blade.
"I have a special little stone" katana are polished with many
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
yep took me a WHOLE 2 days... it really wasnt that difficult at all...
i know that several stones of varying prices are used in the polishing process but i hardly need it when its made. the recovery is the same as just sharpening a blunt blade. im not yielding to ur idiocy
kendokun0 3 years ago
wow my last comment didnt post apparently
to remove the edge from a nihonto would destroy it. you cannot dull it without removing steel. remove steel and you are changing the shape/weight of authenticity you so desperately crave. /\ _ /\ / \ => / \ -X-> / \
/ \ / \ / \
its a one way journey to dull the blade you would be removing the very part it needs for stability...
the absurdity of your argument is quite apparent.
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
oh? you've done this before? or just "researched" it?
you seem to have the ridiculous idea that i'm removing a large amount of the blade. im not. i've hardly dulled it to a point where the weight or "stability" is drastically changed...
and fucking lol; "the absurdity of your argument is quite apparent"... you sound like a fucking 15year old... do you have a doctorate of "sounding like a dim witted fucktard"
my blade is fine. i know what i am doing. you do not. your a posing bitch with no exp..
kendokun0 3 years ago
post a vid of it and i might even believe you :P
but anyone who reads the conversation that actually knows what they are talking about will see right through your bullshit
Creationsofmyown 3 years ago
send me a camera and i will post whatever you like... i could take a picture of it i guess but i have no video. and FYI it's not bullshit.
kendokun0 3 years ago
If you'd know ANYTHING about physics you'd know that blunting a sword and later sharpening _will_ make it different from what it was at the beginning. To blunt it you remove the edge, i.e. remove steel. To turn it back to it's original, you would have to reforge the whole blade. Yes, you can make it sharp, but it won't be just like an untouched nihonto, as Creation said.
Kaoskadosk 2 years ago
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My mum just died from cancer. Thanks for being a dick about physics. fucking fitta.
kendokun0 2 years ago
Oh and im supposed to know that your mother died from cancer? Dude, im sorry that she did, but dont bash on me cause i explained something to you on youtube, geez.
Kaoskadosk 2 years ago
u guys seemed pretty skilled.
most of the people making these comments (not me) havent even took martial arts before or 1 year of training martial arts....lol
nice vid.
and doesnt some aikido teachers teach iaido?
shadowcar88 3 years ago
there is not sword to sword contact in iaido. at least at my dojo. also typically one whose going for nidan would use their live blade not a bokken. also kendo kills every martial art.
kendokun0 3 years ago
I found this video interesting. When you say "kendo kills every martial art," what do you mean?
Is kendo useful for other martial arts where you don't have a sword, like judo? What about Iaido? Just looking for some insight. I'm going to watch my first kendo/iaido class on Saturday and I'd be interested to hear your opinion.
bshantonu 3 years ago
Many Iaido kata's contain blocks...
If there's no sword to sword contact why would there be blocks?
Some sensei will prefer to (occasionally) make use of exercises in which you don't just hack at thin air.
I do both kendo and Iaido, and I must say, doign Iaido as well really does help improve your Kendo, in maneuverability and attaining the correct state of mind. A lot of people consider them to be a part of one another.
reichoftheblacksun 3 years ago
Your teacher is a dick.
mastercatx 3 years ago
but he's a nice dick, as to me, causing pain is rather fun, if they have the groin to attack me.
TheOneTrueCorry 3 years ago
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iaido sucks dickshit
asiankid1111 3 years ago
looks like you guys are in a mcdojo sorrey to say...
ak47dogg 3 years ago 2
2nd Dan Black Belt ?
vergaracristobal80 3 years ago
With all due respect, is there a mistake in the title? I see kenjitsu, but no Iaido; am I mistaken?
OldAikiDog 3 years ago
it looks very interesting and nice...But i can see some "lost strikes", i mean, strikes who don't have any reason, and are only used for strike both bokken.
what style is it?
rascheid 3 years ago
woo thats so far the sound cant keep up :P
seishin48 3 years ago
great practice
Busterbrays 3 years ago
no one ever wheres body armor on every day bases, and if you think its not useful in a real fight why do think all special forces and militaries arond the world use martial arts!!! DICKFACE rajmaster001
kyokushinisdabomb 3 years ago
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All of these fightings sports(karate, iaido, iaijutsu, kung-fu, judo, etc), are SPORTS and nobody will never use them in a real fight anymore, these are for fun. so think it again before you write gun is better faggot.
rajmaster001 3 years ago
LOL, like you know...
Agba12345 3 years ago 2
I'm sorry but I would completely Disagree with you. 1. Its not a sport , Its a art , 2. I've seen Karate in real fights and have used karate in real fights. 3. The point in Karate is to stop the fight before it happens. So, yeah the end , Good Demo none the less.
cazwik 3 years ago
I don't think you will ever use karate against a full armored guy.
rajmaster001 3 years ago
Ya get into a bunch of fights then i suppose. you must really have a record to be able to say that kung fu and karate are useless. i mean, you must of been around the whole world stompin ass to make a claim like that. Next time drop by a dojo and try talkin shit.
oh, do us all a favour and record it and post it. i wanna see how bad you get it.
BalorCM2 3 years ago
cunt!!! martial arts owns
confires 3 years ago
no one ever wheres body armor on every day bases, and if you think its not useful in a real fight why do think all special forces and militaries arond the world use martial arts!!! DICKFACE rajmaster001
kyokushinisdabomb 3 years ago
Many of them are used in real fights. Though if you talking about military battles then i doubt they use it much or at all. Throughout my school years ive seen it used dozens of times. One kid goes after the other, the kid who takes martial arts always won
Harushi7 3 years ago
I'm I the only one that sees that it says speed drill? It's not a realistic technique training.
ssviator 3 years ago
true, good looking but completely ineffective...
but good looking still. :)
zorzevic 3 years ago
It's good looking, I agree with you. But completely ineffective???? Never! Though it's not a realistic technique training, it's training of speed, reaction and the sixth sense - so I guess it is a very effective training ;) . She tells you, that it's speed training for her 2nd Dan-examination. It was never ment to be a fighting simulation. But you can only be precise and faster than your opponent, if you needn't think about what you're doing. The way is to be the sword, to give up yourself...
StuartLifford 3 years ago
Nevertheless I ask myself what kind of Iaido we can see there? It looks much more like Kenjutsu- or kind of Kendoskills?
StuartLifford 3 years ago
to perform something set by advance, aiming at the blade instead, of the oponent is no kendo, kenjutsu or iaido in my opinion. There is no "zanshin" training here, just hitting two wooden sticks together. Perhaps the most interesting part of it is just to strech wrists... at last it's my opinion.
zorzevic 3 years ago
But what use is speed if it ain't implied as a tequnice? Why don't do Kirikaeshi and do "men, men, do, do" just to mix it up?
Think people are mostly upset that it has no "spirit" and it looks un-professional.
Kimsoderlund 3 years ago
As far as breaking a sword goes, I guess you guys didn't see the Mythbusters attempts to break a sword with a sword. (The vid has been removed from U-tube). Their high speed cameras showed incredable deformation at impact, but a good sword can't cut through another good sword, even edge to edge. A good sword will, however, slice through a cheap sword. It's worth finding the full version of that Mythbusters episode.
geezzerboy 3 years ago
Weren't they just looking to cut the sword? I haven't seen that episode in so long!
runemonk1 3 years ago
Lol everyone argues about how its not a real sword fighting strategy and oh that would never work, this is how you do it and stuff like that. Did you ever consider that its the year 2008 and you dont even use a sword to fight anymore lol, so who gives a crap if its right or not
killerhunter2008 4 years ago
Forget you....sowrd fighting will always remain an ancient traditional art.....guns are nothing but a sheer excuse becasue the japanese sword fighting was so pure and amazing.....they needed guns to beat them...
Bladed0edge0razor 4 years ago
Fyi before you cram any more nonsense into your head, real samurai wouldn't have moved anything like this, they would be burdened by the armour they wore and their attacks were only good for killing in one or two moves in close combat. Along with the samurai who weren't foot soldiers btw there were archers and men who used weapons similar to spears who were far deadlier than a samurai. Other than that a lot of samurai were corrupt men that were drunk with power. Stupid kids.
nabiul2 4 years ago
Your an idiot....there are good and bad...your just a fool....just forget it....
Bladed0edge0razor 4 years ago
I do kendo and the armor isnt at all a burden you can move as fast as you could without it.
Harushi7 3 years ago
A Yoroi ain't that heavy when you put it on so you won't become much slower. but as you said, they would NOT hack and slash like that.
Samurai was just the Nobs of Japanese Society, diplomats etc. And they used all kinds of weapons in battle, but the sword is the one with most symbolical meaning in the samurai culture. So the man carrying the spear was most likely a Samurai or in depserate times a peasant.
Kimsoderlund 3 years ago
Damn Right, Borther... or sister.
SuperNinja8000 3 years ago
that was pretty freakin awesome. rarely see any videos up of people actually go at it... (has anyone else thought about how this vid would look like if those were lightsabers? lol)
dboy11368 4 years ago
to some of the comments along the lines of "if you blocked an attack like that it would dent the blade etc etc" would you give it time to think if somebody was trying to slice you in half... or would you just put your sword in the way????
ssjforcecell 4 years ago
I'd agree but for demonstration purposes it was impressive. Also, it was for speed training so it allows an individual to get used to something swinging at them which IS vital for an actual fight, though they probably should have used actual combative techniques.
Actual blocks with kenjutsu do not involve the cutting edge obviosly because that would of course crack or dent the edge considerably, instead blocking was done with the broad part of the blade or on the side of the cutting edge.
kitsune511 4 years ago
wait... wouldn't that break the blade if you blocked like that?
TheHardcore429 3 years ago
Yes, sustained direct blows to the edge of a katana will more than likely result in the blade getting broken.
However, sword battles were never meant to last very long; all of those Hollywood battles are just that... Hollywood.
Blade fighting was about speed. There was much more parrying, dodging, maneuvering, and countering than the straight out blocking that you saw in this video.
itsthewoo 3 years ago
what the fuck was that?you know using a katana like that woud utterly destoy the blade.thats fucked up.i expected for it to be bad but good god that was horrible.plus the moves itself were primitive
seiryotaihou 4 years ago
do you know how strong katana's are? the only way to break one is to bend it one the side with a vice.
Blasfulmous 4 years ago
that's not the only way to destroy a sword; with the edge-to-edge contact like that? what's left of the blade edge?
sirikit 4 years ago
I agree, edge to edge contact would mess up the edge of your katana. redirecting with the side or back is a much better choice.
Of course if blocking edge to edge is a last resort, since most people would prefer damaging their blade to dying.
gwendolinedr25 3 years ago
That...was incredible! That is exactly what I've been wanting to see, serious fighting! Not some two step, pause, breath, hit, blink attack! Furious, fast, vigorous! I must sound like that announcer guy from Street Fighters, but I'm dead serious this has made my day!
Deosu 4 years ago
except that the true essence of swordfighting is kill or die in one move only. You would never see such fancy sword movement in a real fight.
shiroimin 4 years ago
To train for a one cut kill only would be a poor tactical choice. You can't assume you will kill or be killed on the first clash. This training is primarily to increase stamina and develop a fighting spirit. Of course experts like yourself have no need of childish drills like these right?
Jujutsuka4LIfe 4 years ago 2
vodka samurai.
maceioninjutsu 4 years ago
wow...not often do you see a kenjutsu fight where they don't keep stalling, they get agressive and go for it.
H2Zman 4 years ago
its interesting looks like they are having fun not they are real training obviously :)
izoala 4 years ago
what style of kenjutsu is this? It must have a name -like "enshin itto ryu battojutsu" or "sora-to ryu kenjutsu" or something...
Shinsengumi77 4 years ago
gloves plix :)
jambato 4 years ago
Its definitely not iaido, it is some form of kenjutsu routine, but they are having fun.
ohseikai 4 years ago
i remember doing this for mine i had alot of trouble but i managed to pass
iamfromjapan 4 years ago
i don't care what it is i enjoyed the vid. nice post and keep working hard
bandcministry 4 years ago
thats actually not kendo, its a form of kenjutus (old style of way of the sword) kendo is alot more modern and sportish and most dojos try to use some of the basic kata to keep the old way alive
wasabitoohot 4 years ago
Actually:
Do means way, Jutsu means technique. Ken is weapon, usually referring to sword, but not always. The only real difference between an Iai style and a Ken style is that an Iai style includes the art of drawing and sheathing.
genei09 4 years ago
higuys.. sorry my mistake.... this is actually a speed drill from kendo/kenjitsu... i'm learning all three (kendo/kenjitsu/iaido) and got the speed drill all mixed up... so this is not an iaido speed drill... it's actually kenjitsu... hehehee.. sorry for the confusion.. ;)
aprilniko80 4 years ago
I'm not trying to rip on anyone but I do infact know what I'm talking about on this paticular subject.
70SS327 4 years ago
This is not a real martial art, quite obviusly, It could be theatrics practice but this is not Iaido and most certainly is not kendo, I belong to the Canadian Iaido association, if you would like real training in Iaido with a couple Very qualified sensei then your most welcome to join us.
70SS327 4 years ago
that is not iaido...
anthiondel 4 years ago
This looks more like kenjitsu
kparsa1 4 years ago
This is Kenjitsu.
JakeTheMc 4 years ago
well of course it is--kenjutsu means "art of the sword".
retrogamerdave 4 years ago
this isn't iaido this is a form of the kendo kata
shoudan 4 years ago
they are probably kendokas, no relation whatsoever with iaido.
gianksp 4 years ago
Whatever it is, that's non Iaido. It seems much like a Kendo - Kenjitsu mix (Initial back-walking is similiar to the one in Kendo katas, and the Shome-counterattack-Shomen-counterattack sequence in the middle looks like a Kenjitsu kumitachi).
KhuranDixal 4 years ago
Curious to find this on Iai curriculum, but that's ok. My instructor would never have let me get away with smiling at a graduation, though. Of course, if your school isn't that strict about it, then I can't tell you you're wrong. I'm sure there's nothing vitally pedagogical about unflinching seriousness, but being a bit of a traditionalist, I tend to prefer it.
Gilmaris 5 years ago
wow... and after that buying a new sword, right?
never heard of moving your feet?
Dainanashi 5 years ago
Nicely done. Despite what certain people my say, your technique was flawless. The speed is great. 9/10
mellowmaromi1 5 years ago
The headbands are used to keep the hair out of the way and to absorb sweat
OkitaSoji007 5 years ago
Some o them got these heavy braiding or plating to keep you from breaking your brow if u get smucked.
I didnt have to wear one when training kendo, cus shinai sting like hell, but don't really cause grave injury.
ryu8888 5 years ago
this isnt iaido it looks more like kids playing with want to be lightsabers
nexivdr 5 years ago
That was raw skill bud. Compairing it to lighsaver is...realy imature.
mike12jrw1111113 5 years ago
raw skill, u must know nothing about swords or iaido. that is y i said that. if you dont know what your talking about keep your mouth shut
nexivdr 5 years ago
Yeah your high and mighty. These guys are nuthing compaird to you. You can even proove it with your own video showing just how skillfull you are. Maybe by watching your video (thats not on your profile or just invisible) That shows all your skill they might get some of your (invisible skill).
Your just talk and no game.
mike12jrw1111113 5 years ago