@IrIsHBoI97 "Tried giving me facts" ? Your idea of reality is fantasy, must eat animals otherwise they will become extinct ? liver has more iron than carrots , so? eat wheatbran in your diet, simple remedy that involves no blood letting, as the saying goes "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" youv'e proved this well. And your idea of politeness is twisted. Like all meaters , back em into a corner with the truth and they panic, still going on about PETA i see. Rant on, yawn.
@IrIsHBoI97 Not a know it all by any means, but communicating with you I do feel more intelligent which you obviousley feel threatened by so you resort to swearing. Enough of your stupid questions and enough time wasted on you i feel, sheep going extinct ? Do carry on ranting, it's amusing.
@IrIsHBoI97 Is there any limit to your ignorance? seems not, why the swearing ? Your vocabulary it would seem is like your intelligence, thin and limited, you didn't mention what animals would go extinct because you know you can't. Do you think eating dead animals effects your intellect, to me they seem connected communicating with you ( trying to i should say). Maybe you have BSE, i would watch out if i was you, fortunately i'm not.
@IrIsHBoI97 Jeez man you dont learn do you, calling Moz fans "pathetic losers" is asking for some stick, never mind i did try ." We need to breed certain animals to eat them ? thus keeping the population safe from extinction" ? What are you talking about this time ? Do you think pigs or chickens will become extinct if we dont kill them ? strange logic you have.
@IrIsHBoI97 You dont quite understand the passion people have for Moz and meaters, hope its clearer now. A little tip for you, best not to go on a YT site with Moz on it saying you like the taste of meat ( or similar remarks), its red rag to a bull. Your lucky they haven't seen your comment that Moz could take "inspiration" from the likes of Beiber and Miley Cyrus, opps they have now, sorry. Ps animals like life too.
@IrIsHBoI97 You look around the world today and still believe in such high and mighty ideal's? Can i borrow your rose tinted glasses please. And i dont believe we evolved soley from apes either, Darwin got some things right, but thats another debate.As Xwhatshesaid said "Animal testing is a disgrace" enough said. No reply from you about the questions regarding organic meat or Compassion in W.Farming, typical.
IrIsHBoI97 i really think your quite ignorant and are naive about alot of things. In this overpopulated world i think losing a few humans instead of monkeys sounds a fine idea to me and im sure alot of others agree. Animal testing is a disgrace and there is no need for it at all, however if you would rather volunteer yourself for testing on then i would make an exception!
@IrIsHBoI97 More hypothetical questions? You dont answer my questions regarding organic meat or Compassion in world farming? I can not put one life form above another, i respect ALL life, i am not selective, personally i think humans are the worst thing to happen to the earth. Why dont you try searching your soul for answers anyway, develop ethical values for animals not just humans, my heart can encompass all life forms, not just humans, we are all one, cant you see this?
@IrIsHBoI97 The British goverment's have pillaged your country for a long time i agree, and in the last few decades exported their arrogant pathetic outdatedl bullshit to Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan with a growing stream of blood in their wake. I dont wish to be associated with that sort of thing thats why i never vote for any of them, i deeply oppose that vile bunch at Buck Palace also, i hate them to be honest, which i always try to be. I hate all wars as well.
@IrIsHBoI97 >then test it on animals, the cure for cancer is out there, no doubt in the rainforests we wipe out daily to grow beef cattle on for shites like Mc Donalds, If only the truth could be told. Humans dying ? why not be concerned for the killing man does against his fellow man first, its hypocrisy and madness. We have one Earth, look how we abuse its other lifeforms and even each other for greed and gain.
@IrIsHBoI97 > until we understand all life on earth is connected to us and that if we ignore this simple fact then we are not responsible guardians, which we are clearly not. Why do you keep on about PETA? i'm not a member, do we need animal testing? of course not, there is a big scam going on with the vile pharmaceutical companies, nature has an answer to all our illnesess but man cant make money from it so they suppress the info and create harmfull side effecting chemicals >
@IrIsHBoI97 I sympathize with you, i am ashamed about what the English have done to you over the years , from Cromwells massacre at Drogheda to things like Black Sunday, what can i do ? Going off the point again i think, again you say "survival" as though if we dont eat animals we are going to perish, its nonsense i'm afraid. We must respect ALL life, this attitude that we are superior and can do what we want to other lifeforms is disgusting to me>
@IrIsHBoI97 Our "modern society" ? as if atrocities dont happen these days, look at the millions of innocent women and children that have been bombed by our and U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan? we do that to our own species, and we respect animals ? You are in denial my friend. Abuse to food animals is rampant, pretend it doesn't happen if you want, look away, back to my point, eating animals is a choice, nothing to do with survival, condone or condem its up to the individual.
@IrIsHBoI97 You say yo have ethics, do yo buy organic meat? are you a member of Compassion in World Farming? I am and the only Farm produce i eat is veg cheese, this organisation has stopped Battery chicken production as from 2012, the words money where your mouth is comes to mind.
@IrIsHBoI97 > I'm sorry but how on earth can someone say they love animals and then eat them, is'nt that a contradiction surely? "You are what you eat" as George B.Shaw said, what does that say about putting living feeling warm blooded mammals into your system, and not because you have to but by choice, for that is the reason, you dont have to eat animals to exist and that is a hard fact for meaters to accept it seems.
@IrIsHBoI97 I have done research on nutritional values ,and i would like you to tell me the benefits of a meat diet as i can't seem to find any, to be veggie and be healthy you have to research or you could end up ill . As for the abuse only going on in a minority of "workshops" as you call it, is questionable, the assumption that animals cant sense fear is nonsense, they smell blood and hear death moans, they are scared allright, they have feelings , know fear and pain. >
@IrIsHBoI97 Not in my diet there not ,anyway, give me another example of meat being more nutritious than a non meat diet and i will gladly correct you once again, I too could go on for hours about nutritional values of a veg diet over a meater's diet. I'm talking about diet's not PETA, so argue with someone that is a member, i'm not as i have allready stated. What about the animal abuse that goes on in slaughter houses, or are you ignoring ethical value's ? Do you have any ?
@IrIsHBoI97 Dear oh dear, why choose carrots ? there is more iron ( why iron anyway is another matter) in wheat bran than liver( liver 12.5 and bran 12.9 mg per 100g) so that shoots your little bit of research down doesn't it, in fact brewers yeast contains almost 2x the amount liver does, so do you want to try again? Penn +Teller? ha ha the illusionists, um how appropiate. And you develop bowel cancer over time you nitwit, come on try harder please.
@IrIsHBoI97 > I have no links with PETA and i'm not a member either so stop presuming. We dont have pronounced cannines but well developed molars for masticating vegetable matter either, but dont do any research just follow your pre conceived ideas like the caveman mentality you posess.
@IrIsHBoI97 Survival of the fittest doesn't apply to modern man, there is no battle for food , stop being naive. A constant consumption of flesh is not beneficial to the human body, we dont have a short intestinal tract unlike carnivores that do, flesh takes longer to break down in our gut, the result is a greater chance of developing bowel cancer. Meaters are always ignorant of how our body works and follow dogma, >
@IrIsHBoI97 We are also the species causing considerable damage to earth through our obsession with meat consumption, we dont have to eat meat to survive and i talk from experience not myths like you purport, and that is a reality i'm afraid. Obeseity is on the rise, the UK has the highest percentage of overweight women in the EU. Bowel cancer is on the rise due to our high meat consumption, "we must eat meat" if you want to be ill perhaps, youv'e been fooled my friend.
@IrIsHBoI97 "need red meat to live healthily, so that we can progress this world" tell me do you actually inhabit this world? because you are talking total bullshit. Progress ? in what destroying our planet ? Never ceases to amaze me the crap meaters spew to justify their destructive habits. "Developed" in what way?
@IrIsHBoI97 That isn't necessarily true. While some people, if they do not eat properly after becoming vegetarian, do get sick, a vegetarian life 99.9999% of the time does not cause malnutrition. If you eat all the proper vitamins (from tablets, vegetables, etc) you will be perfectly alright.
Where did you hear that Peta had a freezer? I have never heard that. Can you provide a source to your claim? Peta has always promoted animal life as equivalent to human life, what is wrong with that?
He can harp on all he likes, this pretentious prick will never change anyones habits....Especially mine. In fact the more he dribbles on, the more meat I eat. What a dick.
So answer this question: If there are two vegetarians or vegans, and one of them is a veggie to feel superior and the other is a veggie because he or she doesn't like meat, is one of them more justified than the other?
@HammerOvThor. Refraining from flesh eating is not done so as to "feel superior". One does not go through the often extreme hassle of making sure there is no animal product in one's food so that one can feel superior. Nor the insults, the patronising attitudes, the dum questions, just so to "feel superior". What an odd question. DO you trhink it is superior?
@TheBraybeatles Of course one wouldn't admit to it or may not even be conscious of a thing like that, but there's a lot of evidence in some of these comments that points towards superiority as a variable if not a basis for vegetarianism. For example, "Ignorance is eating animals", the term "flesh eating" instead of the more common "carnivorous" or "meat-eating" etc. The conscious use of these terms and phrases leads me to to believe that there are ulterior motives.
@HammerOvThor Sorry to intervene.. But as a vegetarian, & considering the number of people procreating, and considering the huge amount of humans that do eat meat everyday, even if the question should encompass more than just the meat subject (that is, consumerism as a whole); well, considering the effect & impact of such behaviour on the planet earth; and considering that these people contradict themselves in procreating & encourageing their brood to eat meat (...)
@HammerOvThor sorry but no. I do think that people who care for animals & the earth & make the choice of not eating meat (it is the modern society with its meat industry that makes one think he needs to eat meat to be in good health) also for their own health & that of their children (that is, for all good reasons!), are "somehow superior" to eat meaters. I'm talking about developed countries & not about people who have no choice of course.
@HammerOvThor Don't be sorry, & just try to imagine animal suffering.. And believe it or not I am a very humble person. I only think that people who think, are sensitive & who care for the well being of animals & life in general & therefore human life as we depend on that (so, this is logic), these people are higher than the meat industrialists & selfish meat eaters who do not care for life in general. Sorry but I think such thinking is much more virtuous!
@simoom37 I appreciate the empathy and dedication it takes to be a vegan or vegetarian, but I can't accept that they're better because they chose not to eat meat. A vegetarian has a different set of morals/virtues than a meat-eater; not necessarily better ones. I for one am not going to waste the molars my ancestors spent millions of years developing to grind down meat. I love In-N-Out burger. Animals are free to fight back if they feel like it.
@HammerOvThor If you compare man's teeth to those of animals you'll see that we are much closer to vegetarian feeding habits than carnivorous. Such studies have been made, of course there's always controversial arguments. I suggest people kill the beef themselves. I would say nearly nothing to a farmer family who sometimes kill a chicken to sustain themselves, even if Iwouldn't accept violent killing. Stop the meat industry! Think there's plenty of good things to eat instead of meat...
@simoom37 I actually agree with that very much. I may eat meat but I definitely don't condone the evils of the meat industry. I'd much rather live off the land and personally kill my livestock in a humane and controlled way.
@HammerOvThor Thus I wouldn't feel myself superior to you! I'd love to live off the land too, but without killing my cow or animals! Instead, take a bit of her milk, as well as goats' & other animals & eggs. A vegan person can lack b12 vitamin. This is the one & only thing we have to eat animal products for. All other nutrients can be found elsewhere. Eating eggs & a bit of milk is sufficient compensation. I admire the Bishnois.. I believe they are superior to everyone!!
@TheBraybeatles Here, another example is in your response: "Go through the extreme hassle of making sure there is no animal product in one's food". This statement implies that a part of what makes vegetarianism righteous is the "hassle", which wouldn't be relevant if it were for the animals' sake alone.
Hmmm, Where's the Morrissey who once so loved feminism . He's now associating with this group of creeps who push back woman's rights in the apparent hope of pushing forward animal rights, but miserably fail on that front.
Thanks for giving Animal Rights a bad name PETA. My donation money will go to groups who actually seek to help animals rather than promote themselves.
It's no surprise Moz would choose to associate with a bunch of attention Wh*r$s like PETA.
does anybody else think Morrissey looks a bit like if George Clooney, Jay Leno, Bruce Springsteen and James Dean had a kid? and which of them do you think he looks most like? And if none, who does he look like?
@MustHaveRocknRoll If it's so natural, then please post a video where we we can see you slaughtering a lamb or a heifer or a calf or whatever. Please, we are waiting. All of us......keep them in your backyard and slaughter them yourself instead of having someone else do the 'dirty job' and then say it's 'natural'....although you probably wouldn'even drem of doing it yourself.
@hivahoa121 i dont have to due to the modern convenience. like it or not, 150,000 years ago a relative of yours was in a hunting group taking down a caribou to survive. its all about survival and nature. we have appendixes in our bodies so that we could eat raw meat and eggs, now we can cook them. it is not bias, its just about survival. animals kill other animals for food too survive. We're just at the top of the food chain, being the dominant species. nature isn't biased.
@MustHaveRocknRoll Man is IN NO WAY at the top of the food chain. This is such an arrogant, scientifically false, biased and utterly ignorant thing to say.
Please go meet a lion, and go very, very close, and try to explain to "him/her" that you are 'at the top of the food chain'. Or alternatively, ask a panther or a bear. Hilarious really
@hivahoa121 man is clearly at the top. we control lions you imbecile. technology counts you bloody wanker. we could kill any species on the earth. not that we should, but we can, bc we ARE the dominant species. you dont see tigers buliding cities. fucking asshole
@MustHaveRocknRoll U are such a LOSER and an ignorant person, who has no clue about science. You are the intellectual scum of society and your language and ignorant arrogance proves it. Man can defeat lions just through weapons and stuff, which is artificial and due to his (bad) evolution, certainly not to biology, as biology puts the big carnivores at the top of the food chain. Go back to school instead of jerking off all day, ignorant illiterate.
we are dominent because we are more intellegent and above instinct. but when we ebgage in killing other specias like a tiger does we are as low a species as a tiger
@Hakudohshi maybe i should be clearer. if you want to be of the same ilk as a tiger go ahead i however do not want to be. humans have morals tigers do not.
@MustHaveRocknRoll The fact that man CAN meat eat is definitely not the point here. Like pigs, homo sapiens can eat anything from grasshoppers to cockroaches to beetroots in case of survival. That's understood, but it's not the point at all.
Darwin made it very clear: we were NOT made to compete with carnivorous animals, and our teeth are not those of a primarily carnivorous species. It's interesting how u keep on relating eating meat with extremely primitive and harsh conditions of life
@hivahoa121 you obviously are missing my point. eating meat isnt MURDER. it is natural and unbiased. animals kill each other for food, not to satisfy their emotion. there is nothing wrong or immoral being done when you kill an animal for food. Its just nature. Im gonna go have a ham sandwich just for you.
@MustHaveRocknRoll Stick that ham sandwich where you know....which is also the headquarters of your tiny brain after all. What stupid, nonsensical, illogical arguments. I feel sorry for you.
i think vegetarians are hypocrites, i mean you live in houses, that would from forests, animal habitats destroyed - you should live in the woods, then i'll respect you
- and don't say that you're making an effort, even if it is a little one
All the more reason then to try and limit the damage we cant avoid , eating animals that consume so much grain to grow and the return is a carcass, use that same grain the animal would have eaten to feed humans and you get a more sustainable eco system. Vegatarian diets are like it or not good for the Earth, and human wellbeing.
hey everyone! just shut up and eat whatever the hell you want! they consider us ignorant we consider them ignorant and that will never change so why bother discussing with these ignorant fools who think we are ignorant. Both sides have very good discussions either way so just shut up and go eat veggies or shut up and go eat some meat :] thank you.
What a cunt... "Linda & I were great friends" ------"Well, actually I never met her"... I've always thought this guy was a cunt.. Eat meat, eat veggies, eat fruits, eat whatever the hell you want!!!! PETA is BULLSHIT!!!!
I see no direct perspective that allows one to make that connection between eating meat and evolution... what you say is unfounded.. If it is within our nature to eat meat, why can we go against our nature? And be better off... I've always felt that eating meat is slowing me down, it makes me think slower & act slower, why? Takes too long to digest
The thing Anoano say is nothing but subjective judgement, and I can understand it when you argue against Rasabiharjii.
@Rawnesss and moreover: if it is in our nature to kill and slaughter, why are most of us horrified at the sight of blood? Why don't we work willingly in a slaughterhouse? Why don't we take our children to see where ham comes from, like we normally do for chocolate or carrots or grapes? Why aren't slaughterhouses with big windows? have you ever seen a lion or a bear or a cat disgusted by the act of killing and the sight of blood, like us PRIMATES are?
@hivahoa121 Auhm, if it's not in our nature to kill and slaughter, why do we do it throughout the centuries? Humanities finest art has been murder.... Now I don't see why you wrote me this; frankly, your queries are rather obnoxious sounding, but I don't see why you're writing me this, I am not arguing that we should eat meat, au contraire.
And FYI, I've slaughtered a couple mooses as part of hunting. And, Humans are top of the food chain(highest energy transfer before digestion)
@hivahoa121 Now, please do not reply with any of your asinine insult or boring ethics; I agree that killing animals to eat food is wrong, but I do not like you, your comments are full-of-shit and arrogant and pretentious and debile and seem to rely heavily on insults & having the morale highroad. I do not want to argue with you, as you're probably gonna whine & whine & bitch & moan & squeam about what's natural and not (it's as natural to eat meat as vegetables, but not as right)
The teeth thing I just don't buy. I mean we may not have teeth for hunting but I'm pretty sure we have teeth that enable us to eat meat just fine. That aside I don't think nature has that much to do with whether or not we should or should not eat meat. Furthermore I'm suprised this has not turned into a "peta" are idiots debate.The concepts of innocent and guilty are subjective and man made.
If anyone's interested in debate over veganism,feel free to pm me,comments are too short for expression.
Our mouth contains alkaline enzymes, animals such as lions etc contain acid enzymes. To digest meat acid enzymes are needed.
The human digestive system doesn't know how to break down red meat so it sits in the bowels.
Our teeth aren't made to eat meat, we are not built to hunt, tigers have sharp teeth, vulcans have claws. We can only hunt with tools we ourselves are not designed to hunt.
So Joedog, in this context, what counts as innocent and guilty? I've never understood this. What is innocent? Aren't free animals at least as cruel and sadistic to eachother as human beings are to them? Why do for example killer whales and cats play with their severely injured prey? I don't see humans doing this. We work clean, fast and clinical.
I still don't understand what guilt and innocence have to do with this.
The evolution of our brains and incisors has enabled us, how can we be guilty?
I always find it funny that vegetarians think of meat eaters as not civilized, but they always seem to have great trouble to conduct themselves as such.
At least try and make an effort to keep the discussion civil.
I totally agree with you that our brains enable us to do much more than just eat animals. It's all human nature, and to not do it, would be unnatural.
Our brain could not have evolved to it's current size and capabilities without the abundant energy of animal proteins.
Do you find it funny to watch animals in terror, getting slaughtered?
Do you find it barbaric or civilised?
What a load of tripe you spit too. The only 2 diseases absent in vegetarians completely are brain and colon diseases.
Beefeating is not only related to but put down as the prime cause for Alzheimers & Parkinsons.
Meat eaters intake 4 times more protein than healthy hence why cancer is more than 5 times more common than in vegetarians as cancer cells need 16 times more protein than norm
-Da Vinci -Einstein -Mark Twain -Plato -Pythagorus -Leo Tolstoy -Emerson -Isaac Newton -Immanuel Kant -Van Gogh -Martin Luther -Benjamin Franklin How about all the Beatles? Michael Jackson? Bob Marley? All these vegetarians have bad brains huh?
I always wanted to become a vegetarian but I'm too damn weak...
The problem is not only about eating meat... it is also about the meat industry... they are thinking just about the money... they kill a lot of animals and sometimes most of them are not eaten!!!
I'm not a vegetarian... but I see the point guys... Some day I'll join!!!
its been hidden loads from nearly all scriptures removed
that when you eat meat you walk to hellish life, you wait to be reincarnated as animals and suffer the same fate. jesus was born around animalsd to redeem them. he was on a crusade to abolish flesh eating. yet christians all eat flesh. go see my videos "theybastardisedjesus" channel
And what is this tripe about humans brains developing?
They have receded since the first humans 4 millions years ago, not advanced. You dont fall for that evolution shit???
Michael Cremo: Hidden Archeology proved evolution is a scam. They have 60 million year old human remains, smashing any mention of that stupid idea. Why are monkeys here? Why are there species that haven't changed for 400 millions years?
"A Southampton University team found those who were vegetarian by 30 had recorded five IQ points more on average at the age of 10. Men who were vegetarian had an IQ score of 106, compared with 101 for non-vegetarians; while female vegetarians averaged 104, compared with 99 for non-vegetarians."
"A major study revealed Lacto-vegetarians have an IQ around 5 points higher than meat eaters."
@Rasabihariji Ok... Ok... we all saw your point... if you're so fucking intelligent wtf are you doing here???? let other people choose!... if they wanna be a vegetarian... and they think that's correct it's cool... THEY ARE FREE!...
you're just showing us how fucked up you are, you jerk...
If someone doesnt want to eat meat thats fine by me. But dont do it just because morrissey is doing it. I love him, a bit obsessed even but I still maintain my own individuality. But PETA is a horrible company that supports the ALF, Animal Liberation Front. This group bombs researcg buildings that give us vaccines for our children so they do not die of polio, or measles or small pox. These people care more about a chicken than they do the life of a child. Humans were not meant to be vegan.
You are so wrong about PETA. The people that care about animals are the very same peope who care for children, and the planet as a shole. There are only two types of people - those that care and those that dont.
So PETA giving members of the ALF thousands of dollars and the ALF turning around and using that money to buy explosives in order to blow up research buildings that give us vaccines, thats PETAs way of showing humans how much they care for humans? PETA who compares KFC to slavery and the holocaust? Thats fucking ridiculous. I hope that british bitch who founded PETA dies from E. Coli from a head of lettuce.
...and in one feel swoop this idiot displays his/hers crass stupidity and vindictive rage at those who simply attempt to improve the world for others. You are well named; 'someonenoticeImdead' - I have and you are, brain dead at least.
Yes, i'm the idiot yet I'm spouting out information about PETA. You can't even deny what Im saying is true. Please justify blowing up buildings that give us vaccines. I want you to prove me wrong.
I dont justify blowing up buildings or killing people, I agree with you that this is wrong. However I've been a Vanguard member of PETA for a few years (this means making major contributions and getting close to the leadership and policy setting etc) and there has never been any promotion of violence. On the contrary actually. So in my opinion, PETA are excellent and very effective at what they do. I would hope you agree, that if I'm correct about non-violence, then they are a good thing.
There are people still out there with numbers tattooed on their arms and PETA is comparing their suffering to that of a chicken. I am glad that PETA does not preach about being violent toward research companies but that doesnt mean they arent for it. PETA has given thousands of dollars to the ALF and in return the ALF blew up buildings with that money.
I agree with you that the priority is 'people', and expecially children and the poor/vulnerable. However this is no excuse for the vast and horrific abuse to animals that continues around the world. It shames our humanity. As I sid before, there are two types of people: those that care and those that dont - be careful which side you are on, either consciously or otherwise. Are you active in human protection movements? Not a challenge, just a question for you to consider yourself. Cheers.
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vegetarianism isn't doing something, though. it's like driving the approved speedlimit and cursing at the ones who go faster than you, doesn't change a thing.
eating meat is a persons way of accepting the cruel and sadistic way society obtains its food and to have a complete disregard for the taking of innocent lives. a vegetarian diet not only cuts out the drugged and modified disgust that is meat from your body, but creates a chain reaction as one vegetarian can then influence the people around them and get others to really think about what it is they are about to put into their bodies. so yes, it does do something.
poweronawall - you are a bizarre idiot who applies useless euphamisms to high priority ethical issues. Good luck with watching Trisha and Jerry Springer you bubble gum brain air head.
There are unfortauntely some extreme organisations that promote violence and chaos and I would agree with you that these people actually do a dis-service to everyone (on both sides of the debate). I've met a few people who just seem to dislike humans and I'm bemused by this! However none of this makes the basic arguement for basic animal protection, wrong. In fact its a measure of our own humanity that we look after and respect all life forms. I hope you agree.
I agree to keeping animals safe. I dont want anything or anyone to suffer but I believe that if you had to choose between a human or an animal there should be no hesitation to help the human. I do not believe that humans can live off of strict vegetarian or vegan diets. PETA has repeatedly tried to "take away" from human suffering by comparing it to an animal's suffering. Like chickens to the holocaust? Please, that is a complete slap in the face to all jews worldwide.
I'm glad you are opposed to suffering of any kind. Thats the first thing we have in common. I'll use myself as an ordinary example of animals versus humans, in terms of 'priority' since this seems to be the issue you have. I am an active member of various animal rights NGO's, including PETA. I am also a 22 year member of Amnesty Interntional, Oxfam, Action Aid, NSPCC and Childline. The truth is I dont do enough for any of them, including the animal ones. To be continued in next message...
People like "praecinctum" and "mareomdenimic" and their ilk are the type I'd much rather "kick in the eye".
I'd like to "smash every tooth
in their head". "By rights they should be
bludgeoned in their bed". I'm not joking..."sweetness". I don't think I'm alone in this. The man of the hour himself has written a song or two about these kinds of morons.
It's one of his most endearing features. Also the fact that he still has his convictions when everyone else in music past the age of 35 vanishes into agreeable mediocrity. luv him
this is what i am saying, packets of food quorn ready meals, soups containing milk or eggs can have "suitable for vegetarians " on the packaging , moz comes from the uk and he keeps saying vegetarian all the time , he must know about this.
I absolutely adore this video. It reveals a different side of Moz that I've never seen. You know, sans his tongue-in-cheek thing. Yay, Morrissey. Thank you for being a pioneer and advocate for animal rights and vegetarianism!
How can people call Morrissey miserable, he is always smiling and joking
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@IrIsHBoI97 "Tried giving me facts" ? Your idea of reality is fantasy, must eat animals otherwise they will become extinct ? liver has more iron than carrots , so? eat wheatbran in your diet, simple remedy that involves no blood letting, as the saying goes "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" youv'e proved this well. And your idea of politeness is twisted. Like all meaters , back em into a corner with the truth and they panic, still going on about PETA i see. Rant on, yawn.
permaveg 1 month ago
@IrIsHBoI97 Not a know it all by any means, but communicating with you I do feel more intelligent which you obviousley feel threatened by so you resort to swearing. Enough of your stupid questions and enough time wasted on you i feel, sheep going extinct ? Do carry on ranting, it's amusing.
permaveg 1 month ago
@IrIsHBoI97 Is there any limit to your ignorance? seems not, why the swearing ? Your vocabulary it would seem is like your intelligence, thin and limited, you didn't mention what animals would go extinct because you know you can't. Do you think eating dead animals effects your intellect, to me they seem connected communicating with you ( trying to i should say). Maybe you have BSE, i would watch out if i was you, fortunately i'm not.
permaveg 1 month ago
@IrIsHBoI97 Jeez man you dont learn do you, calling Moz fans "pathetic losers" is asking for some stick, never mind i did try ." We need to breed certain animals to eat them ? thus keeping the population safe from extinction" ? What are you talking about this time ? Do you think pigs or chickens will become extinct if we dont kill them ? strange logic you have.
permaveg 1 month ago
@IrIsHBoI97 You dont quite understand the passion people have for Moz and meaters, hope its clearer now. A little tip for you, best not to go on a YT site with Moz on it saying you like the taste of meat ( or similar remarks), its red rag to a bull. Your lucky they haven't seen your comment that Moz could take "inspiration" from the likes of Beiber and Miley Cyrus, opps they have now, sorry. Ps animals like life too.
permaveg 1 month ago
@IrIsHBoI97 You look around the world today and still believe in such high and mighty ideal's? Can i borrow your rose tinted glasses please. And i dont believe we evolved soley from apes either, Darwin got some things right, but thats another debate.As Xwhatshesaid said "Animal testing is a disgrace" enough said. No reply from you about the questions regarding organic meat or Compassion in W.Farming, typical.
permaveg 1 month ago
IrIsHBoI97 i really think your quite ignorant and are naive about alot of things. In this overpopulated world i think losing a few humans instead of monkeys sounds a fine idea to me and im sure alot of others agree. Animal testing is a disgrace and there is no need for it at all, however if you would rather volunteer yourself for testing on then i would make an exception!
XwhatshesaidX 1 month ago 4
What kindness? Its how i really feel.
permaveg 1 month ago
@IrIsHBoI97 More hypothetical questions? You dont answer my questions regarding organic meat or Compassion in world farming? I can not put one life form above another, i respect ALL life, i am not selective, personally i think humans are the worst thing to happen to the earth. Why dont you try searching your soul for answers anyway, develop ethical values for animals not just humans, my heart can encompass all life forms, not just humans, we are all one, cant you see this?
permaveg 1 month ago
@IrIsHBoI97 The British goverment's have pillaged your country for a long time i agree, and in the last few decades exported their arrogant pathetic outdatedl bullshit to Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan with a growing stream of blood in their wake. I dont wish to be associated with that sort of thing thats why i never vote for any of them, i deeply oppose that vile bunch at Buck Palace also, i hate them to be honest, which i always try to be. I hate all wars as well.
permaveg 1 month ago
@IrIsHBoI97 >then test it on animals, the cure for cancer is out there, no doubt in the rainforests we wipe out daily to grow beef cattle on for shites like Mc Donalds, If only the truth could be told. Humans dying ? why not be concerned for the killing man does against his fellow man first, its hypocrisy and madness. We have one Earth, look how we abuse its other lifeforms and even each other for greed and gain.
permaveg 1 month ago
@IrIsHBoI97 > until we understand all life on earth is connected to us and that if we ignore this simple fact then we are not responsible guardians, which we are clearly not. Why do you keep on about PETA? i'm not a member, do we need animal testing? of course not, there is a big scam going on with the vile pharmaceutical companies, nature has an answer to all our illnesess but man cant make money from it so they suppress the info and create harmfull side effecting chemicals >
permaveg 1 month ago
@IrIsHBoI97 I sympathize with you, i am ashamed about what the English have done to you over the years , from Cromwells massacre at Drogheda to things like Black Sunday, what can i do ? Going off the point again i think, again you say "survival" as though if we dont eat animals we are going to perish, its nonsense i'm afraid. We must respect ALL life, this attitude that we are superior and can do what we want to other lifeforms is disgusting to me>
permaveg 1 month ago
@IrIsHBoI97 Our "modern society" ? as if atrocities dont happen these days, look at the millions of innocent women and children that have been bombed by our and U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan? we do that to our own species, and we respect animals ? You are in denial my friend. Abuse to food animals is rampant, pretend it doesn't happen if you want, look away, back to my point, eating animals is a choice, nothing to do with survival, condone or condem its up to the individual.
permaveg 1 month ago
@IrIsHBoI97 You say yo have ethics, do yo buy organic meat? are you a member of Compassion in World Farming? I am and the only Farm produce i eat is veg cheese, this organisation has stopped Battery chicken production as from 2012, the words money where your mouth is comes to mind.
permaveg 1 month ago
@IrIsHBoI97 > I'm sorry but how on earth can someone say they love animals and then eat them, is'nt that a contradiction surely? "You are what you eat" as George B.Shaw said, what does that say about putting living feeling warm blooded mammals into your system, and not because you have to but by choice, for that is the reason, you dont have to eat animals to exist and that is a hard fact for meaters to accept it seems.
permaveg 1 month ago
@IrIsHBoI97 I have done research on nutritional values ,and i would like you to tell me the benefits of a meat diet as i can't seem to find any, to be veggie and be healthy you have to research or you could end up ill . As for the abuse only going on in a minority of "workshops" as you call it, is questionable, the assumption that animals cant sense fear is nonsense, they smell blood and hear death moans, they are scared allright, they have feelings , know fear and pain. >
permaveg 1 month ago
@IrIsHBoI97 Not in my diet there not ,anyway, give me another example of meat being more nutritious than a non meat diet and i will gladly correct you once again, I too could go on for hours about nutritional values of a veg diet over a meater's diet. I'm talking about diet's not PETA, so argue with someone that is a member, i'm not as i have allready stated. What about the animal abuse that goes on in slaughter houses, or are you ignoring ethical value's ? Do you have any ?
permaveg 1 month ago
@IrIsHBoI97 Dear oh dear, why choose carrots ? there is more iron ( why iron anyway is another matter) in wheat bran than liver( liver 12.5 and bran 12.9 mg per 100g) so that shoots your little bit of research down doesn't it, in fact brewers yeast contains almost 2x the amount liver does, so do you want to try again? Penn +Teller? ha ha the illusionists, um how appropiate. And you develop bowel cancer over time you nitwit, come on try harder please.
permaveg 1 month ago
@IrIsHBoI97 > I have no links with PETA and i'm not a member either so stop presuming. We dont have pronounced cannines but well developed molars for masticating vegetable matter either, but dont do any research just follow your pre conceived ideas like the caveman mentality you posess.
permaveg 1 month ago
@IrIsHBoI97 Survival of the fittest doesn't apply to modern man, there is no battle for food , stop being naive. A constant consumption of flesh is not beneficial to the human body, we dont have a short intestinal tract unlike carnivores that do, flesh takes longer to break down in our gut, the result is a greater chance of developing bowel cancer. Meaters are always ignorant of how our body works and follow dogma, >
permaveg 1 month ago
@IrIsHBoI97 We are also the species causing considerable damage to earth through our obsession with meat consumption, we dont have to eat meat to survive and i talk from experience not myths like you purport, and that is a reality i'm afraid. Obeseity is on the rise, the UK has the highest percentage of overweight women in the EU. Bowel cancer is on the rise due to our high meat consumption, "we must eat meat" if you want to be ill perhaps, youv'e been fooled my friend.
permaveg 1 month ago
@IrIsHBoI97 "need red meat to live healthily, so that we can progress this world" tell me do you actually inhabit this world? because you are talking total bullshit. Progress ? in what destroying our planet ? Never ceases to amaze me the crap meaters spew to justify their destructive habits. "Developed" in what way?
permaveg 1 month ago
@IrIsHBoI97 That isn't necessarily true. While some people, if they do not eat properly after becoming vegetarian, do get sick, a vegetarian life 99.9999% of the time does not cause malnutrition. If you eat all the proper vitamins (from tablets, vegetables, etc) you will be perfectly alright.
Where did you hear that Peta had a freezer? I have never heard that. Can you provide a source to your claim? Peta has always promoted animal life as equivalent to human life, what is wrong with that?
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"Linda and I were *great* friends...well, pen pals... for about three years. Um, well, I never *actually* met her. Sorry, who is she again?" :)
GhibliFan1 3 months ago
BTW - I hope that's a polyester suit Moz!?
hdmccart 3 months ago
I love Moz. But I like meat more.
hdmccart 3 months ago
@hdmccart I'm more into Morrissey as meat himself even though I'm vegetarian...!!!
simoom37 3 months ago
He can harp on all he likes, this pretentious prick will never change anyones habits....Especially mine. In fact the more he dribbles on, the more meat I eat. What a dick.
dartmoordog 3 months ago
So answer this question: If there are two vegetarians or vegans, and one of them is a veggie to feel superior and the other is a veggie because he or she doesn't like meat, is one of them more justified than the other?
HammerOvThor 4 months ago
@HammerOvThor. Refraining from flesh eating is not done so as to "feel superior". One does not go through the often extreme hassle of making sure there is no animal product in one's food so that one can feel superior. Nor the insults, the patronising attitudes, the dum questions, just so to "feel superior". What an odd question. DO you trhink it is superior?
TheBraybeatles 4 months ago
@TheBraybeatles Of course one wouldn't admit to it or may not even be conscious of a thing like that, but there's a lot of evidence in some of these comments that points towards superiority as a variable if not a basis for vegetarianism. For example, "Ignorance is eating animals", the term "flesh eating" instead of the more common "carnivorous" or "meat-eating" etc. The conscious use of these terms and phrases leads me to to believe that there are ulterior motives.
HammerOvThor 4 months ago
@HammerOvThor Sorry to intervene.. But as a vegetarian, & considering the number of people procreating, and considering the huge amount of humans that do eat meat everyday, even if the question should encompass more than just the meat subject (that is, consumerism as a whole); well, considering the effect & impact of such behaviour on the planet earth; and considering that these people contradict themselves in procreating & encourageing their brood to eat meat (...)
simoom37 3 months ago
@HammerOvThor I think it is only fair for vegetarians to feel somehow superior.
simoom37 3 months ago
@simoom37 That's a joke, right?
HammerOvThor 3 months ago
@HammerOvThor sorry but no. I do think that people who care for animals & the earth & make the choice of not eating meat (it is the modern society with its meat industry that makes one think he needs to eat meat to be in good health) also for their own health & that of their children (that is, for all good reasons!), are "somehow superior" to eat meaters. I'm talking about developed countries & not about people who have no choice of course.
simoom37 3 months ago
@simoom37 Well I'm sorry to hear that.
HammerOvThor 3 months ago
@HammerOvThor Don't be sorry, & just try to imagine animal suffering.. And believe it or not I am a very humble person. I only think that people who think, are sensitive & who care for the well being of animals & life in general & therefore human life as we depend on that (so, this is logic), these people are higher than the meat industrialists & selfish meat eaters who do not care for life in general. Sorry but I think such thinking is much more virtuous!
simoom37 3 months ago
@simoom37 I appreciate the empathy and dedication it takes to be a vegan or vegetarian, but I can't accept that they're better because they chose not to eat meat. A vegetarian has a different set of morals/virtues than a meat-eater; not necessarily better ones. I for one am not going to waste the molars my ancestors spent millions of years developing to grind down meat. I love In-N-Out burger. Animals are free to fight back if they feel like it.
HammerOvThor 3 months ago
@HammerOvThor If you compare man's teeth to those of animals you'll see that we are much closer to vegetarian feeding habits than carnivorous. Such studies have been made, of course there's always controversial arguments. I suggest people kill the beef themselves. I would say nearly nothing to a farmer family who sometimes kill a chicken to sustain themselves, even if Iwouldn't accept violent killing. Stop the meat industry! Think there's plenty of good things to eat instead of meat...
simoom37 3 months ago
@simoom37 I actually agree with that very much. I may eat meat but I definitely don't condone the evils of the meat industry. I'd much rather live off the land and personally kill my livestock in a humane and controlled way.
HammerOvThor 3 months ago
@HammerOvThor Thus I wouldn't feel myself superior to you! I'd love to live off the land too, but without killing my cow or animals! Instead, take a bit of her milk, as well as goats' & other animals & eggs. A vegan person can lack b12 vitamin. This is the one & only thing we have to eat animal products for. All other nutrients can be found elsewhere. Eating eggs & a bit of milk is sufficient compensation. I admire the Bishnois.. I believe they are superior to everyone!!
simoom37 3 months ago
@TheBraybeatles Here, another example is in your response: "Go through the extreme hassle of making sure there is no animal product in one's food". This statement implies that a part of what makes vegetarianism righteous is the "hassle", which wouldn't be relevant if it were for the animals' sake alone.
HammerOvThor 4 months ago
thank you morrisey for trying to safe animals.
smilelikeUmeanit90 5 months ago
I am a proud card carrying Irish PETA member
irishveganboy 6 months ago
smug irrelevant nobody, get over it tosser noone cares
greenjack1959l 6 months ago
Big Macs are yummy.
joesoap81 7 months ago
Hmmm, Where's the Morrissey who once so loved feminism . He's now associating with this group of creeps who push back woman's rights in the apparent hope of pushing forward animal rights, but miserably fail on that front.
Thanks for giving Animal Rights a bad name PETA. My donation money will go to groups who actually seek to help animals rather than promote themselves.
It's no surprise Moz would choose to associate with a bunch of attention Wh*r$s like PETA.
CabbageAndMash 11 months ago
@CabbageAndMash Women posing naked is a threat to women's rights? How does that work then?
SendInTheChickens 10 months ago
How unlike Morrissey to attach himself to fuckwits.
Gash
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Theremedialgash 11 months ago
How touching. That speech made me hungry. I'm gonna order a meat-lover's pizza with extra cheese.
NinjaGhostScorpion 1 year ago
Meat Is Murder
noahisgod 1 year ago
@noahisgod consider me a murderer then.
SendInTheChickens 10 months ago
Haha, I love him for saying ciao, I say ciao all the time XP <3
darkside1918 1 year ago
I fell in love with this man's music years ago, and fell even deeper in love when I discovered his stance regarding animal welfare.
schwarzblatt 1 year ago 3
He's somehow got more camp with age lol MWAH ciao to you to!
EllyMcCormack 1 year ago
I love moz but hate peta..
Rmg12 1 year ago
I bet that's the happiest Morrissey ever gets... he does seem quite happy. :)
I think PETA is a load of bull though. Mmmmm.... Bull.
scruffyexaminer 1 year ago
He's so happy! Lol I don't think I've ever seen him smile so much.
TheHelenasan4 1 year ago
he seems to be so shy here
"ciao" LOL
Stairwaytoheaven06 1 year ago
LOL I was watching this and thinking "when's my sausage sandwich gonna be ready?" Sorry Morrissey :(
JonathanHawes94 1 year ago
does anybody else think Morrissey looks a bit like if George Clooney, Jay Leno, Bruce Springsteen and James Dean had a kid? and which of them do you think he looks most like? And if none, who does he look like?
CheStillFighting 1 year ago
I love the smiths and i'm a very liberal democrat, but eating meat is not wrong, it's natural.
MustHaveRocknRoll 1 year ago
@MustHaveRocknRoll If it's so natural, then please post a video where we we can see you slaughtering a lamb or a heifer or a calf or whatever. Please, we are waiting. All of us......keep them in your backyard and slaughter them yourself instead of having someone else do the 'dirty job' and then say it's 'natural'....although you probably wouldn'even drem of doing it yourself.
hivahoa121 1 year ago
@hivahoa121 i dont have to due to the modern convenience. like it or not, 150,000 years ago a relative of yours was in a hunting group taking down a caribou to survive. its all about survival and nature. we have appendixes in our bodies so that we could eat raw meat and eggs, now we can cook them. it is not bias, its just about survival. animals kill other animals for food too survive. We're just at the top of the food chain, being the dominant species. nature isn't biased.
MustHaveRocknRoll 1 year ago
@MustHaveRocknRoll Man is IN NO WAY at the top of the food chain. This is such an arrogant, scientifically false, biased and utterly ignorant thing to say.
Please go meet a lion, and go very, very close, and try to explain to "him/her" that you are 'at the top of the food chain'. Or alternatively, ask a panther or a bear. Hilarious really
hivahoa121 1 year ago
@hivahoa121 man is clearly at the top. we control lions you imbecile. technology counts you bloody wanker. we could kill any species on the earth. not that we should, but we can, bc we ARE the dominant species. you dont see tigers buliding cities. fucking asshole
MustHaveRocknRoll 1 year ago
@MustHaveRocknRoll U are such a LOSER and an ignorant person, who has no clue about science. You are the intellectual scum of society and your language and ignorant arrogance proves it. Man can defeat lions just through weapons and stuff, which is artificial and due to his (bad) evolution, certainly not to biology, as biology puts the big carnivores at the top of the food chain. Go back to school instead of jerking off all day, ignorant illiterate.
hivahoa121 1 year ago
@MustHaveRocknRoll
we are dominent because we are more intellegent and above instinct. but when we ebgage in killing other specias like a tiger does we are as low a species as a tiger
krish108 1 year ago
@krish108 Tigers aren't a low species guy, try being locked in a room with one and see how low you go, shitting yourself with fear.
Hakudohshi 1 year ago
@Hakudohshi low species i dont follow?
krish108 1 month ago
@Hakudohshi maybe i should be clearer. if you want to be of the same ilk as a tiger go ahead i however do not want to be. humans have morals tigers do not.
krish108 1 month ago
@MustHaveRocknRoll The fact that man CAN meat eat is definitely not the point here. Like pigs, homo sapiens can eat anything from grasshoppers to cockroaches to beetroots in case of survival. That's understood, but it's not the point at all.
Darwin made it very clear: we were NOT made to compete with carnivorous animals, and our teeth are not those of a primarily carnivorous species. It's interesting how u keep on relating eating meat with extremely primitive and harsh conditions of life
hivahoa121 1 year ago
@hivahoa121 you obviously are missing my point. eating meat isnt MURDER. it is natural and unbiased. animals kill each other for food, not to satisfy their emotion. there is nothing wrong or immoral being done when you kill an animal for food. Its just nature. Im gonna go have a ham sandwich just for you.
MustHaveRocknRoll 1 year ago
@MustHaveRocknRoll Stick that ham sandwich where you know....which is also the headquarters of your tiny brain after all. What stupid, nonsensical, illogical arguments. I feel sorry for you.
hivahoa121 1 year ago
@MustHaveRocknRoll
ok you disagree with not wanting to kill... strange argument i have to say
krish108 1 year ago
i think vegetarians are hypocrites, i mean you live in houses, that would from forests, animal habitats destroyed - you should live in the woods, then i'll respect you
- and don't say that you're making an effort, even if it is a little one
fuck you im going to eat a steak thanks
edhusse 1 year ago
@edhusse You are a fucking moron. Why don't idiots like you ever say this stuff in person?
xStaycleanx 1 year ago
@xStaycleanx i do, ass
edhusse 1 year ago
@edhusse That's cute, you're trying to act cool over the internet. Animal consumption is bullshit.
xStaycleanx 1 year ago 2
@xStaycleanx well pardon me, enlighten me. Why is animal consumption bullshit?
edhusse 1 year ago
All the more reason then to try and limit the damage we cant avoid , eating animals that consume so much grain to grow and the return is a carcass, use that same grain the animal would have eaten to feed humans and you get a more sustainable eco system. Vegatarian diets are like it or not good for the Earth, and human wellbeing.
permaveg 1 year ago
Morrissey, I love you. You are truly very beautiful! I adore your uniqueness and your rebellious rock n roll nature!
StarKiller6900 1 year ago
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What a dope.
bennyfifty 2 years ago
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hey everyone! just shut up and eat whatever the hell you want! they consider us ignorant we consider them ignorant and that will never change so why bother discussing with these ignorant fools who think we are ignorant. Both sides have very good discussions either way so just shut up and go eat veggies or shut up and go eat some meat :] thank you.
jonjonwhii 2 years ago
One of the only times I've ever seen this man smile. He is beaming with joy.
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What a cunt... "Linda & I were great friends" ------"Well, actually I never met her"... I've always thought this guy was a cunt.. Eat meat, eat veggies, eat fruits, eat whatever the hell you want!!!! PETA is BULLSHIT!!!!
krishotsaucemiller 2 years ago
krishotsaucemiller, yous a cunt!
hothead13 2 years ago 2
That has to be the happiest I have ever seen him on television or video!! Wouldn't claim to know about in private
laika288 2 years ago 2
I'ts nice to know that the great man has heros too.
moz1snorac 2 years ago 2
pen pals haha
charlottefine35a 2 years ago
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I respect a lot of vegetarians but PETA are brainless terrorists and Morrissey is an an arrogant cunt. That is all.
GenericInsect1979 2 years ago
I see no direct perspective that allows one to make that connection between eating meat and evolution... what you say is unfounded.. If it is within our nature to eat meat, why can we go against our nature? And be better off... I've always felt that eating meat is slowing me down, it makes me think slower & act slower, why? Takes too long to digest
The thing Anoano say is nothing but subjective judgement, and I can understand it when you argue against Rasabiharjii.
Rawnesss 2 years ago
@Rawnesss and moreover: if it is in our nature to kill and slaughter, why are most of us horrified at the sight of blood? Why don't we work willingly in a slaughterhouse? Why don't we take our children to see where ham comes from, like we normally do for chocolate or carrots or grapes? Why aren't slaughterhouses with big windows? have you ever seen a lion or a bear or a cat disgusted by the act of killing and the sight of blood, like us PRIMATES are?
hivahoa121 1 year ago
@hivahoa121 Auhm, if it's not in our nature to kill and slaughter, why do we do it throughout the centuries? Humanities finest art has been murder.... Now I don't see why you wrote me this; frankly, your queries are rather obnoxious sounding, but I don't see why you're writing me this, I am not arguing that we should eat meat, au contraire.
And FYI, I've slaughtered a couple mooses as part of hunting. And, Humans are top of the food chain(highest energy transfer before digestion)
Rawnesss 1 year ago
@hivahoa121 Now, please do not reply with any of your asinine insult or boring ethics; I agree that killing animals to eat food is wrong, but I do not like you, your comments are full-of-shit and arrogant and pretentious and debile and seem to rely heavily on insults & having the morale highroad. I do not want to argue with you, as you're probably gonna whine & whine & bitch & moan & squeam about what's natural and not (it's as natural to eat meat as vegetables, but not as right)
Rawnesss 1 year ago
The teeth thing I just don't buy. I mean we may not have teeth for hunting but I'm pretty sure we have teeth that enable us to eat meat just fine. That aside I don't think nature has that much to do with whether or not we should or should not eat meat. Furthermore I'm suprised this has not turned into a "peta" are idiots debate.The concepts of innocent and guilty are subjective and man made.
If anyone's interested in debate over veganism,feel free to pm me,comments are too short for expression.
indiekidtom 2 years ago
Our mouth contains alkaline enzymes, animals such as lions etc contain acid enzymes. To digest meat acid enzymes are needed.
The human digestive system doesn't know how to break down red meat so it sits in the bowels.
Our teeth aren't made to eat meat, we are not built to hunt, tigers have sharp teeth, vulcans have claws. We can only hunt with tools we ourselves are not designed to hunt.
primadonna774 2 years ago
It sounded funny when he said "ciao" no?
MarijuanaGood4U 2 years ago 3
So Joedog, in this context, what counts as innocent and guilty? I've never understood this. What is innocent? Aren't free animals at least as cruel and sadistic to eachother as human beings are to them? Why do for example killer whales and cats play with their severely injured prey? I don't see humans doing this. We work clean, fast and clinical.
I still don't understand what guilt and innocence have to do with this.
The evolution of our brains and incisors has enabled us, how can we be guilty?
Anoano 2 years ago
lol
our brains enable us to murder, rape and terrorise to you fool!
and horse? gorilla? u seen the fuckin size of those animals canines????? (not incisors)
ur teeth are totally incapable of biting into a struggling rat! let alone a pig, cow or sheep ya dunce!
herbivorous animals turn their head from bloody carcusses much like a human, omnivorous animal go stick their snouts in and lick the blood!
if ur such an omnivore stop cooking ya meat, bite into hyde and eat it bloody and raw!
Rasabihariji 2 years ago
I always find it funny that vegetarians think of meat eaters as not civilized, but they always seem to have great trouble to conduct themselves as such.
At least try and make an effort to keep the discussion civil.
I totally agree with you that our brains enable us to do much more than just eat animals. It's all human nature, and to not do it, would be unnatural.
Our brain could not have evolved to it's current size and capabilities without the abundant energy of animal proteins.
Anoano 2 years ago 2
Do you find it funny to watch animals in terror, getting slaughtered?
Do you find it barbaric or civilised?
What a load of tripe you spit too. The only 2 diseases absent in vegetarians completely are brain and colon diseases.
Beefeating is not only related to but put down as the prime cause for Alzheimers & Parkinsons.
Meat eaters intake 4 times more protein than healthy hence why cancer is more than 5 times more common than in vegetarians as cancer cells need 16 times more protein than norm
Rasabihariji 2 years ago
Rasabihariji 2 years ago
@Rasabihariji damn I must be and idiot then... :(
I always wanted to become a vegetarian but I'm too damn weak...
The problem is not only about eating meat... it is also about the meat industry... they are thinking just about the money... they kill a lot of animals and sometimes most of them are not eaten!!!
I'm not a vegetarian... but I see the point guys... Some day I'll join!!!
Jobyperry 1 year ago 2
@Jobyperry
fuck everyone else
look out for yourself
every action your involved in stays with you
its been hidden loads from nearly all scriptures removed
that when you eat meat you walk to hellish life, you wait to be reincarnated as animals and suffer the same fate. jesus was born around animalsd to redeem them. he was on a crusade to abolish flesh eating. yet christians all eat flesh. go see my videos "theybastardisedjesus" channel
if you dont have mercy for animals
have in on yourself
Rasabihariji 1 year ago
And what is this tripe about humans brains developing?
They have receded since the first humans 4 millions years ago, not advanced. You dont fall for that evolution shit???
Michael Cremo: Hidden Archeology proved evolution is a scam. They have 60 million year old human remains, smashing any mention of that stupid idea. Why are monkeys here? Why are there species that haven't changed for 400 millions years?
U r a sucker.
Rasabihariji 2 years ago
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Rasabihariji 2 years ago
"A Southampton University team found those who were vegetarian by 30 had recorded five IQ points more on average at the age of 10. Men who were vegetarian had an IQ score of 106, compared with 101 for non-vegetarians; while female vegetarians averaged 104, compared with 99 for non-vegetarians."
"A major study revealed Lacto-vegetarians have an IQ around 5 points higher than meat eaters."
YEAH MEAT REALLY HELPS IN BRAIN DEVELOPMENT!
go veggie you dumbass.
Rasabihariji 2 years ago
@Rasabihariji Ok... Ok... we all saw your point... if you're so fucking intelligent wtf are you doing here???? let other people choose!... if they wanna be a vegetarian... and they think that's correct it's cool... THEY ARE FREE!...
you're just showing us how fucked up you are, you jerk...
you have meat in your brain asshole!
Jobyperry 1 year ago
@Jobyperry
lol your face is as mean as your life as been
your voice is as angry as the animals you ate
Rasabihariji 1 year ago
wow he actually looks happy and sincere
luisasiajes 2 years ago 5
I love Moz and I love Peta. What a cool man!
REMPILFAN 2 years ago 38
Ignorance is eating animals.
permaveg 2 years ago 37
@permaveg so evolution is ignorance
greyreview 1 year ago
@permaveg I bet its a thrilling Christmas dinner at your house
StoneMaestro 11 months ago
@permaveg eating animals is bliss
unclegusyo 4 months ago
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f you then whore
gazubu4 2 years ago
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F Morrisey!
manzi420sofia 2 years ago
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Join ETA
Where our slogan is "ETA lotta Meata"
Wonder what ETA stands for. Its a very simple acronymn really.
E-People
T-For
A-The consumption of living products that are not plants.
bobgt0 2 years ago
god bless you moz
dindoncolitaderaton 2 years ago 9
If someone doesnt want to eat meat thats fine by me. But dont do it just because morrissey is doing it. I love him, a bit obsessed even but I still maintain my own individuality. But PETA is a horrible company that supports the ALF, Animal Liberation Front. This group bombs researcg buildings that give us vaccines for our children so they do not die of polio, or measles or small pox. These people care more about a chicken than they do the life of a child. Humans were not meant to be vegan.
someonenoticeimdead 3 years ago
You are so wrong about PETA. The people that care about animals are the very same peope who care for children, and the planet as a shole. There are only two types of people - those that care and those that dont.
Monterey2am 2 years ago
So PETA giving members of the ALF thousands of dollars and the ALF turning around and using that money to buy explosives in order to blow up research buildings that give us vaccines, thats PETAs way of showing humans how much they care for humans? PETA who compares KFC to slavery and the holocaust? Thats fucking ridiculous. I hope that british bitch who founded PETA dies from E. Coli from a head of lettuce.
someonenoticeimdead 2 years ago
...and in one feel swoop this idiot displays his/hers crass stupidity and vindictive rage at those who simply attempt to improve the world for others. You are well named; 'someonenoticeImdead' - I have and you are, brain dead at least.
Monterey2am 2 years ago 2
Yes, i'm the idiot yet I'm spouting out information about PETA. You can't even deny what Im saying is true. Please justify blowing up buildings that give us vaccines. I want you to prove me wrong.
someonenoticeimdead 2 years ago
I dont justify blowing up buildings or killing people, I agree with you that this is wrong. However I've been a Vanguard member of PETA for a few years (this means making major contributions and getting close to the leadership and policy setting etc) and there has never been any promotion of violence. On the contrary actually. So in my opinion, PETA are excellent and very effective at what they do. I would hope you agree, that if I'm correct about non-violence, then they are a good thing.
Monterey2am 2 years ago
There are people still out there with numbers tattooed on their arms and PETA is comparing their suffering to that of a chicken. I am glad that PETA does not preach about being violent toward research companies but that doesnt mean they arent for it. PETA has given thousands of dollars to the ALF and in return the ALF blew up buildings with that money.
someonenoticeimdead 2 years ago
I agree with you that the priority is 'people', and expecially children and the poor/vulnerable. However this is no excuse for the vast and horrific abuse to animals that continues around the world. It shames our humanity. As I sid before, there are two types of people: those that care and those that dont - be careful which side you are on, either consciously or otherwise. Are you active in human protection movements? Not a challenge, just a question for you to consider yourself. Cheers.
Monterey2am 2 years ago 7
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vegetarianism isn't doing something, though. it's like driving the approved speedlimit and cursing at the ones who go faster than you, doesn't change a thing.
PictureOnAWall 2 years ago
eating meat is a persons way of accepting the cruel and sadistic way society obtains its food and to have a complete disregard for the taking of innocent lives. a vegetarian diet not only cuts out the drugged and modified disgust that is meat from your body, but creates a chain reaction as one vegetarian can then influence the people around them and get others to really think about what it is they are about to put into their bodies. so yes, it does do something.
Joedog 2 years ago 9
joedog - well said, friend.
Monterey2am 2 years ago
Fuck this Im off for a big mac.
joesoap81 2 years ago 3
poweronawall - you are a bizarre idiot who applies useless euphamisms to high priority ethical issues. Good luck with watching Trisha and Jerry Springer you bubble gum brain air head.
Monterey2am 2 years ago
ummm... well if 10 % of the US is vegetarian, then the US consumes 10% less meat
I thought it was a pretty simple idea, guess not
tim0mansell 2 years ago
There are unfortauntely some extreme organisations that promote violence and chaos and I would agree with you that these people actually do a dis-service to everyone (on both sides of the debate). I've met a few people who just seem to dislike humans and I'm bemused by this! However none of this makes the basic arguement for basic animal protection, wrong. In fact its a measure of our own humanity that we look after and respect all life forms. I hope you agree.
Monterey2am 2 years ago 2
I agree to keeping animals safe. I dont want anything or anyone to suffer but I believe that if you had to choose between a human or an animal there should be no hesitation to help the human. I do not believe that humans can live off of strict vegetarian or vegan diets. PETA has repeatedly tried to "take away" from human suffering by comparing it to an animal's suffering. Like chickens to the holocaust? Please, that is a complete slap in the face to all jews worldwide.
someonenoticeimdead 2 years ago
I'm glad you are opposed to suffering of any kind. Thats the first thing we have in common. I'll use myself as an ordinary example of animals versus humans, in terms of 'priority' since this seems to be the issue you have. I am an active member of various animal rights NGO's, including PETA. I am also a 22 year member of Amnesty Interntional, Oxfam, Action Aid, NSPCC and Childline. The truth is I dont do enough for any of them, including the animal ones. To be continued in next message...
Monterey2am 2 years ago
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You'll never stop me eating juicey steaks , you chinny, dork-faced, ugly, geeky ball of hate. You limp=wristed, self-obsessed CUNT.
Fucking die.
praecinctum 3 years ago
People like "praecinctum" and "mareomdenimic" and their ilk are the type I'd much rather "kick in the eye".
I'd like to "smash every tooth
in their head". "By rights they should be
bludgeoned in their bed". I'm not joking..."sweetness". I don't think I'm alone in this. The man of the hour himself has written a song or two about these kinds of morons.
eidetecker 3 years ago 3
i'd love to know who you are coz id kill you !! don't you dare insult the mozfather you fucking wank !
neutralnothing 3 years ago
who the fk are you, bloddy mindless twat, the blokes one of the biggest talents to ever come out of this country.
mambo872006 3 years ago
what that all about
brincat93 2 years ago
Moz reminds me ALOT of Tony Blair in this. =|
(Just with his body language and expressions, y'know?)
Percinho27 3 years ago
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faggot
mareomdenimic 3 years ago
'mareomdenimic'
and you are obviously a fucking twat, and?...
wasagoodkid 3 years ago
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don't get me wrong..I love faggots:X:X::X
mareomdenimic 3 years ago
What a beautiful smiley face he has.
timewillprove 3 years ago 4
Is anyone else just charmed to death that Morrissey is still nervous on camera after all these years? I love that about him!
littlevolcano 3 years ago 5
It's one of his most endearing features. Also the fact that he still has his convictions when everyone else in music past the age of 35 vanishes into agreeable mediocrity. luv him
simonpenum 3 years ago 2
does peta support the dairy industry?
fusionfreq 3 years ago
absolutely not fusionfreq! why do you ask?
wasagoodkid 3 years ago
hi its just that being vegetarian in the uk means you can eat eggs milk , cheese etc.
and morrissey eats cheese and ice cream.
no worries i like him allot and i am a herbivore with thanks to morrissey. just wondering.
fusionfreq 3 years ago
I think he is actually vegan now. Or at least he was a few years ago.
VUandChips 3 years ago
this is what i am saying, packets of food quorn ready meals, soups containing milk or eggs can have "suitable for vegetarians " on the packaging , moz comes from the uk and he keeps saying vegetarian all the time , he must know about this.
indiasrainbow 3 years ago
in a book about the history of rock, the morrissey solo artist page it said "MORRISSEY M for Manchester"
desasterz 3 years ago 2
im going to get a one way ticket to Rome and i know that eventually i will meet him, i know how much he loves Rome, who wants to meet me there?
wasagoodkid 3 years ago
don sit on his dorrstep ringing the bell for hours tho he hates that .. i read he almost through water over some body once he didnt tho ...
i wish i could meet you there ..
morrissey1959 3 years ago
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you're blatently a rapist grooming vulnerable young morrissey fans.
stop it. I'm on to you.
If you're not, I apologise. But still you're a stalker.
jonmarklong 2 years ago
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no im afraid im neither, i was an alcoholic, still very amusing though, well done
wasagoodkid 2 years ago
hurray for being vegatarian
Language81 3 years ago 8
i have to repeatedly wtch this xx
morrissey1959 3 years ago
I absolutely adore this video. It reveals a different side of Moz that I've never seen. You know, sans his tongue-in-cheek thing. Yay, Morrissey. Thank you for being a pioneer and advocate for animal rights and vegetarianism!
MIM forever!
mitali79 3 years ago 8
Never heard "Meat is Murder"?
Reproductivist 3 years ago
THAT is what "MIM" stands for, you dope.
mitali79 3 years ago
LOL. Must have not seen the last line at all
Reproductivist 3 years ago
where have you been??
morrissey1959 3 years ago
what happened at the end?
ringleader of the tormentors is the album?
erikboberik 3 years ago
yes it's Ringleader
nunzioforpresident 3 years ago