those are huge hands to able to grip the ball of an ally oop. you see him grip ball stop it spinning and hold it for almost a second before he stuffs it in.
Haha, compare Michael's "griping" at 1:44 to Kobe's "griping". The biggest difference between MJ and Kobe was maturity. The constant whining, fist flailing, yelling, etc. of Kobe will always effect people's perception of him when comparing him to the greats.
MJ is the best basketball player to ever live, great guy, humble, he did everything at high level. BUT every time he would play Hakeems rockets, he would struggle. I truly believe if he were to play the 93-95 rockets in the finals he would not of won. Remember, the rockets are 1 of the only 2 teams that Jordan did not have a winning percentage against.
I agree. That Rockets team that won back to back titles was unreal. They get forgetten sometimes because they benefitted from some good timing with jordan stepping back when he did...However, Jordan had trouble with them because they had several guys on their team who could guard MJ pretty tough (Clyde, the Jet, Mario Elie). Finally, they also had Hakeem, who should be mentioned in any discussion of the best 5 players in NBA history. I've never been a rocket fan, but that team was fun.
The Bulls got better with the addition of Toni Kukoc in 1994-95. The 1994-95 team would've been better than the 1995-96 team had Jordan stayed. It would've been a better trio with prime Pip,Prime MJ, and prime Kukoc. That team would've been unreal. Jordan was past prime in 96. Pippen wasn't the same Pip as he was 90-94. Kukoc also lost alot in 96. The Knicks took the Rockets to 7 games in 94 the same year the Bulls minus Jordan took the Knicks to 7. Had it not been for some bad calls the Bulls
Wish I could up-vote this twice. You're absolutely right. Toni Kukoc was very underrated during those early years in Chicago. Kukoc, Pip and Jordan all in their primes would have been INSANE in those two years. You're talking 8 straight championships and multiple 70+ win seasons.
this was another statement game for MJ, directed to Mario Elie. believe me MJ doesnt forget. last season in 1996-97 when the Bulls lost in houston that 1 and only time, (MJ's 2nd 3peat were 5-1 vs. rockets) everybody made such a big deal over nothing because mario elie held MJ to 0-9 fg in the 2nd half. true elie was a great underrated defender. well in 1997-98 in houston MJ embarrassed elie with 40 points, and the earlier home game in Chitown MJ had 45. MJ doesnt forget
you must admit this since 90 champs have been planned if pippen plays game 7 in the ecf the bulls would have gotten 4 straight. but in 94-95 knicks and magic where chosen and olajuwon ruined sterns plans. now thats a great player. 96 u couldnt put hakeem against mike b/c luc longley really. rockets in 5 or 6 if that many. no b/s call when mike comes to the rim and the all time leader in blocks is in the way. there are no clip of mike dunkin on the dream but there are clips of him getttin sent.
I dont think so ... michael jordan status become more impreasive then he come backs after 2 years , and won the title...who knows , maybe mike had good rest in 1993-95, maybe the chalenge he create was big step for another tripple...
The way i see it MJ was not on top shape despite some great performances he had. If never retired he would be much more effective, he would make less errors and his chemistry with the team would be much better. Dont forget the Bulls championship blueprint was there in the '88 season but it took 3 years to become a reality. Mike wasnt ready to lead that team to another championship, if he had play the full season i believe they had better chances.
Ur the one who seems to be forgettin that MJ wasnt in basketball shape. There's a difference between baseball and basketball when it comes to being in shape, and MJ had put some weight on. Despite that 55 point performance in MSG MJ wasnt in top shape no sir, and that caught up with him in the playoffs.
He spent the next months gettin ready and in shape for the '96 season and the we all know what happened next. If he never left in '93 we would be lookin at 8 in a row
rrTALE....another crap statement. So let me guess the 95-96 Bulls won 72 games because MJ ran his ass on a treadmill in the offseason?
94-95, No Rodman at PF and Kukoc was a starter. Harper sucked. MJ was trying to beat Orl playing 1 on 4. Look at the video Jordan 95 Orlando of his team standing around all game long.
Dude that's a highlight video on Jordan against Orlando..Of course ur gonna see him score..Ur gonna judge a 6 game series based on that vid? Leave me out of that.
Of course the '96 Bulls were a much better team and i never said anything about MJ winning 72 alone
Yes I am. Out of shape is a "media myth" as to why the Bulls lost to Orlando. Orlando was just a better team in 94-95 with Grant at PF. And MJ not sharing the ball trying to beat Orlando by himself. Same thing used to happen when the Pistons used to beat him.
His career postseason average is 33.4 ppg. And he averaged 31.5 ppg on 48% shooting vs. Orlando. Yeah "really outta shape".
I wanna see anyone leavin basketball for 1 and 1/2 year and then return in baseball shape doin what he did. Cause MJ wasnt in basketball shape that u know. Was he competitive? Hell yeah he was MJ, but damn he played 17 regular season games and tough series, could he have played better? Of course but the guy was out of that team for almost 2 years..It was not gonna happen
rrTale, my only issue is when MJ fans can make the bogus claim that "Hakeem could only win a title when MJ was out of the league or wasn't in shape".
Again I don't buy that: "He was outta shape which is why Hakeem won a title" rubbish. I don't think even if MJ was in "so-called" shape, that team was good enough to win a title.
Well i guess we'll never know, i believe the Bulls would won 8 straught if MJ hadnt leave, solid team with the greatest playoff performer in history of the game.
Which justs PROVES at THAT TIME, if the Bulls WERE the team they were from '91-'93 & '96-'98, SHOULDN'T they have been commpeting for the Title? Yet they WEREN'T!!
So how MORONIC would does it sound for someone to claim that the Bulls coulda', shoulda', woulda' done vs the Rockets in the playoffs "IF" they would've met in the Finals, when they couldn't even get out of their conference? Uh-huh..just what I thought.
Same thing can be said about the Rockets & their team from '91-'93..
There was no Cassell/Horry in 90-91 and they swept the Bulls. In 92-93 they only had Horry. They didn't have their championship team yet which is why they didn't meet from 91-93.
So what! The bulls had no Kukoc or Kerr or Rodman either during those years! So what's your point?..
Again, if the Rockets couldn't even get out of their own conference to face the Bulls in the Finals & PROVE they were the BETTER team during 1991-93, what makes U think they would've beaten MJ in the FINALS of all places?
Nice try. They had Paxson (Kerr) and Grant (Rodman). What did Kukoc do as a starter? Shit. 1994-95 they didn't have a PF and were at their most vulnerable.
Why you think the Bulls signed Rodman fool? They were WEAK inside. Grant ate them alive in '95.
Interior Defense WAS NOT the problem that year. How could it be? They ranked 2nd in the league in pts per 100 possessions given up, vs. 6th in 1993-94.
They also had the 6th BEST EFG% defense, which indicates opponents WERN'T getting easy shots, which would occur if the interior defense were as bad as you seem to think it was.
They were also 1st in the league at forcing T.O's. Just the previous 2 season ('92 & '93)they ranked in those 2 areas, 12th & 6th.
Which only HIGHLIGHTS their OFFENSIVE INEFFICENCIES that year, not their DEFENSIVE shortcomings.
That's what their problem was vs Orlando that year, & EVERYBODY else for that matter. Couple that with a rusty MJ figuring his way back unto to team that ALREADY had no continuity as far it's chemistry, is it any wonder why they were "Up & Down", in terms of their play in 1995?
Sorry....no Grant, no Rodman = no rings for MJ in '95 no matter what "shape" the MJ fanboys try to portray him in.
Career numbers 33.4 ppg 48% in the playoffs.
Vs. Orlando 48% & 31.5 ppg.
So even with MJ "in shape" he was only less than 2 ppg off his career playoff scoring avg. vs. Orlando. So lemme guess + 1.9 ppg woulda beat Orlando huh?
Stop these sorry assed sob stories about your hero. The Bulls weren't good enough to win in '95 w/o a PF no matter what shape MJ was in.
The Rockets weren't "good enough" to get out of their own conference or win a title during 1991-93 "WITH" Hakeem either, but yet U imply they would've beaten chigago in the Finals..LOL!
MJ's avg's for the Playoffs that yr is a testament to his ability to STEP IT UP when needed.
This SAME MJ U claim WAS in shape, during his 17 Reg Season games that yr, ONLY avg'd 27ppg 7rpg & 5apg on 41% shooting. OBVIOULSY, after damn near 2 yrs off, his shooting touch WAS rusty & his FG% reflects that.
Stop hiding from the truth smart ass. I brought up his playoff averages.
And the SAME MJ averaged 31.5 ppg and 48% shooting in 1995. Nearly identical with his career postseason avg. and his team still LOST in 1995.
And you MJ fanboys are trying to claim MJ being"rusty" as the chief reason Hakeem won in '95. So lemme guess + 2 ppg woulda made MJ sweep through the field in 95 huh?
Explain all the INCONSISTENT play from him during those 17 games then? He NEVER did that B4 he retired. How could he have NOT been rusty after damn near 2 yrs gone?
For U to say he WASN'T rusty, is to imply it's possible for someone to take 2 yrs off & come back & IMMEDIATELY pick back up where they left off, just 2 yrs prior, WITHOUT missing a beat. That's humanly IMPOSSIBLE!
You're Indirectly saying he's the G.O.A.T, which I KNOW U hate to do LOL!!
And Fanboy I'm not, I'm too Old School for that nonsense. I'm a FAN of the Game. I give credit where it's due. U wanna talk about fanboys, go talk to these dumb ass kobe homers.
Not only is there an ABUNDANCE of 'em, they're by FAR the most Ignorant, Uninformed of the bunch. U should have a field day with them..
Look at this dude trying to stray away from the topic at hand.
31.5 ppg and 48% shooting and he still lost. Remarkably consistent with his CAREER post-season numbers. How do you MJ fanboys explain that when you say Hakeem is "lucky" that MJ retired so he could get his 2 rings?
I didn't say Hakeem was lucky. I said he didn't win 1 Title while MJ was in Top Form, for a "FULL" season.
I've NEVER discredited his Titles. That would be dumb on my part. One doesn't win back 2 back Titles & it's luck. Only an idiot would say that.
But I'm not buying a Houston over Chicago in a Finals setting based on Reg Season matchups. ESPECIALLY when they couldn't even get out of the West when the Bulls were winning! They REPEATEDLY lost to the teams the Bulls beat in the Finals!
"Look at this dude trying to stray away from the topic at hand."
How? I've addressed EVERY issue you've laid B4 me.
"31.5 ppg & 48% shooting & he still lost."
'HE' didn't lose, The TEAM lost! It's funny how guys like yourself will CREDIT his "TEAM", when we're discussing his INDIVIDUAL exploits, but will say it's "HIS" lost when the TEAM loses.
31.5ppg on 48% FG% is a TESTAMENT to "HIS" ability to STEP UP in the Playoffs! That's remarkable, considering he was GONE for about 2 yrs..
91 there was a laker starter injured in every game the bulls won. the only game the lakers won was game 1 where they had there whole starting five. who rememebers that?
No Cassell or Horry in 90-91 season. No Cassell or Horry in 91-92. No Cassell in '93 and Horry was an inexperienced rookie. And yet they won 5 of 6 from the Bulls in that span WHILE THEY WERE DOMINATING THE LEAGUE despite not having the same roster as their championship team.
Once they had those two and Hakeem playing at his peak were they able to REACH the finals.
U keep talkin about Reg Season games as if they're the bottom line. Hell, the lakers from 1991-93 had a 4-2 record vs Chicago!
Your DESPERATION in trying to prove Houston was better, is only MAGNIFIED by the fact that U can ONLY harp on "1" series Chicago Lost & Reg Season matchups & foolishly claiming MJ was at full strength after being GONE for 2 yrs, with no basketball training WHATSOEVER! LOL!! How IDIOTIC is that?
The Rockets beat The Bulls 5 of 6 times in the Reg Season..clap**clap
Stop avoiding the FACT that your beloved Rockets couldn't even get out of the West to even COMPETE for a Title when The Bulls were winning them.
Stop avoiding the Fact that they couldn't even get in the Playoffs in '94 "WITH" Hakeem. If Hakeem's MJ's equal as U say, he should've been able to at LEAST do that. LOL!!
Of course, I'll leave you Rockets/Hakeem fanboys to hold unto your "Horry was a rookie & we didn't have Cassell" mambo jumbo excuses y'all love to use for their shortcomings..
"Did the Bulls win a title in Phil Jackson's 1st year as coach?"
They got to within 1 game of the Finals..Not a Title, but a good season nonetheless.
And since your gonna keep harping on the Bulls losing that "1" Playoff Series to the Magic as a means to insenuate their inferiority to the Rockets, I'll keep harping on the fact that the Rockets didn't even make the playoffs in '92 & kept LOSING to the teams the Bulls were BEATING in the Finals.
U keep trying to insenuate that the Rockets would've BEATEN them in the Finals & when asked to explain why they couldn't even get out of the west to compete against the Bulls while they were winning Titles, U come back with:
"Uhh maybe because they weren't ready yet."
Well, which is it? How can U insenuate on one hand what they coulda' shoulda' woulda' done, but then undermine your OWN argument with that comment? LOL!!
And all U can do is harp on "1" losing series for the Bulls?
in 93 there was a bad call against the dream and they lost in 7 games to seattle. they would have won sweep the sun in the wcf then olajuwon would have put 50 a game on cartwright. in 95 it didnt matter who they played they would have lost to houston. and jordan "retired" because he gamlbed on games 1 and 2 in 93 ecf and he lost both games sterns rigged league let him retired to take off the heat. jordan breaks players wills do u really think the dream could have been broken.
Sorry bud, the Bulls lost to the Magic in 6 games, who the Rockets swept.
Lemme see here, you lose to a team, and another team beats that team. And the team that wins still has "question marks" because they didn't face a team that LOST 2 series before to the team THEY swept in the Finals?
And yet I still have to hear how Hakeem didn't go through MJ to get his rings.
Sorry Bud, but the Rockets lost to EVERY team the Bulls Beat in the Finals (except for '92 & '93) & couldn't even MAKE the playoffs in '92 to compete for a Title.
And the West at that time was what the east is now.
If U wanna' harp on the Bulls losing 1 series to a team the Rockets beat, as means of accomplishments & a reason to stick your chest out, fine. I can do the SAME thing regarding SEVERAL teams the Bulls beat, that first & FOREMOST beat the Rockets in rout to facing chicago..
sorry ,but fact is every year it's an amazing feat to win the NBA CHAMPIONSHIP,no matter who is injured,old or retired..and to bring up not making the playoffs that 1 time is a joke.maybe you forgot that Mike had a losing record every year until Pip got to Chicago in Mike's 4th year,or that Dream was beating up the league since he was a rookie,until his 2nd best player got racked up.Mike from his 4th year on always had a great teamate in Pip,Dream played w/out any great teamates until he was old
"maybe you forgot that Mike had a losing record every year until Pip got to Chicago"
Maybe I "REMEMBER" a franchise that hadn't been to the Playoffs since '81 & had "ONLY" won 27 games the prior year, until MJ showed up. I remember them "MAKING" the Playoffs MJ's rookie year, LARGELY in part due to "HIM"!
"Dream was beating up the league since he was a rookie"
And MJ wasn't? As a ROOKIE, MJ led his team in scoring, steals, assists & REBOUNDING..the "ONLY" rookie in HISTORY, to do so..
And Pippen didn't even CONSISTENTLY start his 1st 3 yrs! He "MAINLY" came off the BENCH behind B. Sellers!
So U think while MJ was "LEADING" a starting 5 of D. Corzine, S. Vincent, C. Oakley, B. Sellers to 50 wins & the 2nd Rd, while INDIVIDUALLY winning the Scoring Title, Reg Season & All Star MVP, Def Player Of The Year, Over 200 steal & 100 Blocks..a Top 5 Season ALL TIME..all this was the result of having Pippen, someone who was at that time, the 7th best player on the damn team?
opinions vary,but facts are hard to deny..Mike played 3 years when he was young w/out Scottie,and 2 years when he was old w/out SCOTTIE...all 5 years Mike had a losing record...reply to that,lol
they got to the playoffs with a losing record-quite lucky to do so..and Both players came to teams that were last place the year before..Dream went to 2nd his 1st year and took down the Lakers,5 titles in 80's Lakers-Dream's 2nd year...Mike got swept in 1st round his 1st 2 years..fact is when Dream had a great teamate in his youth,he always kicked ass w/out exception..Mike lost every year-losing records every year he didn't have a great teamate..Dream won the title w/out any all star teamates
uhhhhh they DID get into the playoffs in 94, in fact they won the title,lol.
Cassell and Horry were KEY playoff contributors during their title years. Cassell showed great clutch ability vs the Knicks. It's no EXCUSE to say they weren't on the team together when they didn't compete for the title in the early 90's.
Hakeem is the best at his position, and needn't not be compared to MJ who's also the best at his position.
"Not trying to rub dirt in MJ's face because the Bulls did the deed to West teams that eliminated HOU more than the other way around."
Im glad u cleared that one out cause i was about to rub it on ur face lol. We'll never know how the league would be if MJ never retired in '93. All we know is the Rockets won 2 consecutive titles cause they were the best team, no question about that.
Chicago LOST in 6 games WITH MJ in the league averaging his career post-season scoring & FG % which renders the argument MJ fanboys use that Hakeem only won because MJ retired to be quite simply a pile of crap.
Again no power forward meant the Bulls couldn't win in 95.
Alot of people still say the rockets would have won because they beat the bulls in the reg season (5-1) from 91-93. people would say vernon maxwell would shut him down under 30 points, they couldnt stop hakeem. i think the bulls could have pulled it of in 94 and 95. vernon maxwell never played against a playoff version of MJ, and not only that, when the Bulls beat the Cavs in the 89 playoffs 3-2, everybody forgets that the Cavs were 6-0 against the Bulls in the reg season.
6 billion people on the planet,And it doesn't matter who is retired or injured..if you can lead a team to the NBA Championship,you are "THE MAN"-as anyone with common sense knows the greatest teams and greatest players are in the NBA...DREAM USUALLY BEAT MJ ANYWAY,AND MIKE KNEW HE COULD BEAT ANYONE ELSE BUT OLAJUWON IN THE FINALS..OF THE ALL TIME SHOT BLOCK CHAMPION,MIKE WASN'T SO CONFIDENT.....ALL THE "WOULD HAVES" DON'T MEAN SHIT AS OLAJUWON REALISTICALLY WAS THE GREATEST PLAYER FROM '93-'95
okay,you got me on that 1,but you should look at what Dream did in '93...his overall game was greater than Mike's..what i posted about being "the man" is basically correct-but the greatest player is often not on the best team..that was the case in '93,when Dream was greater than Mike
yeah i agree from 93-94 to 94-95 hakeem was the man, my opinion the greatest center of alltime, even over Shaq and Wilt, but to be fair, no one will really knows who would have won had MJ and Hakeem met in June. u can say doing MJ's 1st 3 championship years, the rockets were 5-1 against the bulls, but to say MJ knew he couldnt beat Hakeem in the finals, i dont agree. i could say back in the 1988-89 season, the Cavs beat the Bulls 6-0 in the regular season, but in the playoffs the Bulls won
you misunderstood my post...i was making the point that Mike was confident in beating any other team,not saying he didn't think he could beat Houston,but Mike was definitely not sure of it..he really could play with most teams,but not with Olajuwon...immense respect came from Olajuwon to Jordan and vice versa-they both wanted the challenge of facing each other in the finals,fate didn't let it happen..too bad for all of us..peace
no problem chief, anytime. i would rather have discussions with people like u anytime because u know ur stuff and u make me actually work for my replies, unlike these delusional kobe fans who say he's the GOAT. im one of the biggest MJ fans and i know my stats. MJ is and still is the GOAT, but Dream is the Greatest Center of Alltime. class of 84 was the best! Hakeem to me was always great, but the most underrated center ever. one of few nba players to get better as he got older.
you're a cool cat.but this '98 game is an example of how Mike was better than Dream w/out argument(by '98).pick out any year before '98 and debate the greatness of both players.Olajuwon didn't get the numbers or the awards,but you've gotta realize he was completely kicking teams asses on the defensive end.add that to consistently being top 10 in scoring,always over 50%,and 71% from the line(good for a center)you've basically got Ben Wallace who is unstoppable on offense.Jordan still young at 35
both air and dream could turn things around in the post season.....maybe you forgot the Spurs beat up the Rockets during the '95 reg. season,with David and Dream going pretty even...then in the post season Dream humiliated the MVP like no other mvp has been beat up before or since...Bottom line really is The Bulls had a very tough time with Dream and Company,even though the Bulls were a more talented team overall.Chances are good that even with MJ at full strength,the Rockets still rule '94 @'95
just wonder how come nobody brings up the time when MJ came back for a full season in the 1995-96 season, he was even quoted saying Olajuwon is the best and he even sent a warning out to the rockets in 95-96 letting them know he was after their crown. during MJ's 2nd 3peat the Bulls were 5-1 against Hakeem's rockets. people may say the rockets had injuries or no chemistry, but like u said, all the "WOULD HAVES" dont mean anything as MJ realistically took back his ring and his place as the best.
sure everybody remembers the 2 consecutive 200stl/100blk seasons MJ had and no one else has EVER done. Dream was the 1st to get 200 stl/200blk in a season, but was overlooked because MJ had 32.5ppg/8ast/8rb with 10 tripledoubles in 11 games along with 7 consecutive. everybody knows he's the alltime swatter but he leads alltime in steals as a center. he embarrassed Drob in the playoffs, destroyed PatEwing in the finals,and humiliated Shaqfu in the 2nd finals,all while selling his shoes at Payless
yeah MJ had a alright 95 playoffs, really impressive considering he's was in baseball shape, but his jumping ability and jumpshots were not up to MJ standards. yeah he had 31.5 ppg at 48% shooting, but that was deceptive. he would miss jumpshots and layups he normally would make, he had uncharacteristic turnovers and the team chemistry didnt have time to change since he came back late in the reg season.Thats why Orlando won. MJ was still and is the GOAT, but Hakeem was the top player in 94-95.
Stop hiding from the truth smart ass. I brought up his playoff averages.
And the SAME MJ averaged 31.5 ppg and 48% shooting in 1995. Nearly identical with his career postseason avg. and his team still LOST in 1995.
And you MJ fanboys are trying to claim MJ being"rusty" as the chief reason Hakeem won in '95. So lemme guess + 2 ppg woulda made MJ sweep through the field in 95 huh?
If they were who you're trying to make 'em out to be during 1991-93, why DIDN'T they win ANY titles during that time? They ONLY won DURING MJ's Absence..
I give 'em their just due because hell, they WON it. I can't discredit that. But if they're the TEAM U make 'em out to be, why couldn't they ever make it to the Finals to face MJ to PROVE it?!?!
They kept LOSING to the teams the bulls were beating for the Title!
5-1 vs them WOULD be SIGNIFICANT, if it happened in the PLAYOFFS..
Exactly give them their due and tell your MJ fanboy friends to shut tha fuck up with this "Hakeem could only win because MJ retired" bullshit.
MJ was in the league and his ass got whupped in '95. Houston swept the team he couldn't beat. They won four playoff series w/o homecourt advantage against teams with 55 or more wins. Tell your MJ fanboy buddies not to sell me this crap that Hakeem took the "easy way out" to cop his rings.
this is y there should be an asterist next to those 2 rockets championships cuz if MJ does not retire they bulls win i mean come on michael killed that time the Rockets should thank michael he is the reason they won those championships because he retired
Well why did the Rockets, come PLAYOFF time, CONSISTENTLY LOSE to ALL of the teams MJ & the Bulls were BEATING in the Finals?
U can't use what they did vs the Bulls in the Reg Season, as a gauge to what U THINK they'd vs them in a Playoff setting, ESPECIALLY since MJ & the Bulls went to ANOTHER level in the playoffs! How dumb is that?!?!
If Hakeem & the Rockets were the team U CLAIM they were at that time, don't U think they should've MADE the Finals to PROVE their mettle vs the Bulls?
Yeah. Although the Bulls first title broke my heart because it was against LA, they were not as good then as they were later. Imagine if MJ doesn't retire, they could've won 8 TITLES!
and if your aunt had ball she'd be your uncle........tough matchup between Rockets and Bulls......no one knows so Dream keeps his titles w/out stupid astericks like the 1 you'd like to give him
The 1995-98 Bulls were much better than the 1991-1993 Bulls. I hated Jordan as a Pistons fan but once he came back and they had Rodman, I started to love how that entire team played because they taught those sorry young guys what the game was all about. They were old school and had no competition from 1995-98.
That's so true, and something seldom talked about today. The Bulls had the highest average age in the league, right around 30 yrs, during those last three championships. if you could transport that team to the present, I think they'd be even more dominant against today's brainless competition
I am from China.I am 26 years old.I like MJ very much.Now I can watch the NBA live in TV. Though Koge, Wade are very excellent , I found nobody can compare with MJ.MJ can fly.His comportment is artistic.And he is enterprising.He can control the competition.I don't know how many people like him now in USA.Whther all the young blood like Kobe? I hope make American friends by my E-mail
NAHH MAN I DIS-AGREE JORDAN'S THE BEST JORDAN'S JUST THE BEST CAUSE EVRYONE S*CK'S BAC IN THE DAY imagine him playing now agains Lebron James, Wade ,NOWITZKI, BEAT U HE WONT WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP
your saying wade, nowitizki and lebron would stop jordan from winning championships? thats just stupid for so many reasons. you had to be kidding when u wrote that. jordans bulls are a hell of alot better than any team today. todays game is soft with all the offensively oriented rules, jordan would have better carear numbers and more championships if he played in todays era.
In 97 they had a better game in Houston, that the Rockets actually won. I was hoping the Bulls and Rockets would have been the NBA finals, but it was not to be, thanks to a Stockton three.
but after all, jordan was still the No.1 offensive weapon in the league back in 1998,even though he was nearly 35 years old,just look at those moves, and jump shots,isn't that amazing..
those are huge hands to able to grip the ball of an ally oop. you see him grip ball stop it spinning and hold it for almost a second before he stuffs it in.
ro42023 1 year ago
The only Jordan Kobe matches is the 98 and the Wizards Jordan. Thats it
glawz 1 year ago
Haha, compare Michael's "griping" at 1:44 to Kobe's "griping". The biggest difference between MJ and Kobe was maturity. The constant whining, fist flailing, yelling, etc. of Kobe will always effect people's perception of him when comparing him to the greats.
rizdraver 1 year ago
What makes Jordan have so much energy and have confidence on his shots?
miguelbaezjr 2 years ago
you cant see no one on the court but ya self mentality
gillescasanova 1 year ago
i really think the Bulls could've won 7 straight championships had Jordan not retired.
schutzhund3 2 years ago
i agree
gillescasanova 1 year ago
jordan the goat
Jasluim 2 years ago
you jordan is the best player on the planet
salutemehbadd 2 years ago
Jordan left because of NO competition period. He's like a cheetah, better hope he's far enough away from you so he doesn't catch you
aesille 2 years ago
90's NBA was so good
imtormentor 2 years ago
that person got schooled on mj 2nd score!
SPORTSFRE4K 2 years ago
MJ is the best basketball player to ever live, great guy, humble, he did everything at high level. BUT every time he would play Hakeems rockets, he would struggle. I truly believe if he were to play the 93-95 rockets in the finals he would not of won. Remember, the rockets are 1 of the only 2 teams that Jordan did not have a winning percentage against.
TracyMacAddidas 2 years ago
I agree. That Rockets team that won back to back titles was unreal. They get forgetten sometimes because they benefitted from some good timing with jordan stepping back when he did...However, Jordan had trouble with them because they had several guys on their team who could guard MJ pretty tough (Clyde, the Jet, Mario Elie). Finally, they also had Hakeem, who should be mentioned in any discussion of the best 5 players in NBA history. I've never been a rocket fan, but that team was fun.
birch5757 2 years ago
The Bulls got better with the addition of Toni Kukoc in 1994-95. The 1994-95 team would've been better than the 1995-96 team had Jordan stayed. It would've been a better trio with prime Pip,Prime MJ, and prime Kukoc. That team would've been unreal. Jordan was past prime in 96. Pippen wasn't the same Pip as he was 90-94. Kukoc also lost alot in 96. The Knicks took the Rockets to 7 games in 94 the same year the Bulls minus Jordan took the Knicks to 7. Had it not been for some bad calls the Bulls
Jasluim 2 years ago
would've advanced to the next round vs the Pacers and probually to the finals. The Bulls would've had no problem beating the Rockets.
Jasluim 2 years ago
@Jasluim
Wish I could up-vote this twice. You're absolutely right. Toni Kukoc was very underrated during those early years in Chicago. Kukoc, Pip and Jordan all in their primes would have been INSANE in those two years. You're talking 8 straight championships and multiple 70+ win seasons.
PhenomZ 1 year ago
im pretty sure bulls would have beat them. Jordan got MUCH better when the playoffs started
MrTehbigcheese 2 years ago
this was another statement game for MJ, directed to Mario Elie. believe me MJ doesnt forget. last season in 1996-97 when the Bulls lost in houston that 1 and only time, (MJ's 2nd 3peat were 5-1 vs. rockets) everybody made such a big deal over nothing because mario elie held MJ to 0-9 fg in the 2nd half. true elie was a great underrated defender. well in 1997-98 in houston MJ embarrassed elie with 40 points, and the earlier home game in Chitown MJ had 45. MJ doesnt forget
AgentCirrus 3 years ago
you must admit this since 90 champs have been planned if pippen plays game 7 in the ecf the bulls would have gotten 4 straight. but in 94-95 knicks and magic where chosen and olajuwon ruined sterns plans. now thats a great player. 96 u couldnt put hakeem against mike b/c luc longley really. rockets in 5 or 6 if that many. no b/s call when mike comes to the rim and the all time leader in blocks is in the way. there are no clip of mike dunkin on the dream but there are clips of him getttin sent.
td111182 3 years ago
I dont think so ... michael jordan status become more impreasive then he come backs after 2 years , and won the title...who knows , maybe mike had good rest in 1993-95, maybe the chalenge he create was big step for another tripple...
andriusssska 4 years ago
The way i see it MJ was not on top shape despite some great performances he had. If never retired he would be much more effective, he would make less errors and his chemistry with the team would be much better. Dont forget the Bulls championship blueprint was there in the '88 season but it took 3 years to become a reality. Mike wasnt ready to lead that team to another championship, if he had play the full season i believe they had better chances.
rrTale 4 years ago
Ur the one who seems to be forgettin that MJ wasnt in basketball shape. There's a difference between baseball and basketball when it comes to being in shape, and MJ had put some weight on. Despite that 55 point performance in MSG MJ wasnt in top shape no sir, and that caught up with him in the playoffs.
He spent the next months gettin ready and in shape for the '96 season and the we all know what happened next. If he never left in '93 we would be lookin at 8 in a row
rrTale 4 years ago
rrTALE....another crap statement. So let me guess the 95-96 Bulls won 72 games because MJ ran his ass on a treadmill in the offseason?
94-95, No Rodman at PF and Kukoc was a starter. Harper sucked. MJ was trying to beat Orl playing 1 on 4. Look at the video Jordan 95 Orlando of his team standing around all game long.
95-96 the Bulls were a better team overall.
FuShengAlex 4 years ago
Dude that's a highlight video on Jordan against Orlando..Of course ur gonna see him score..Ur gonna judge a 6 game series based on that vid? Leave me out of that.
Of course the '96 Bulls were a much better team and i never said anything about MJ winning 72 alone
rrTale 4 years ago
Yes I am. Out of shape is a "media myth" as to why the Bulls lost to Orlando. Orlando was just a better team in 94-95 with Grant at PF. And MJ not sharing the ball trying to beat Orlando by himself. Same thing used to happen when the Pistons used to beat him.
His career postseason average is 33.4 ppg. And he averaged 31.5 ppg on 48% shooting vs. Orlando. Yeah "really outta shape".
FuShengAlex 4 years ago
I wanna see anyone leavin basketball for 1 and 1/2 year and then return in baseball shape doin what he did. Cause MJ wasnt in basketball shape that u know. Was he competitive? Hell yeah he was MJ, but damn he played 17 regular season games and tough series, could he have played better? Of course but the guy was out of that team for almost 2 years..It was not gonna happen
rrTale 4 years ago
rrTale, my only issue is when MJ fans can make the bogus claim that "Hakeem could only win a title when MJ was out of the league or wasn't in shape".
Again I don't buy that: "He was outta shape which is why Hakeem won a title" rubbish. I don't think even if MJ was in "so-called" shape, that team was good enough to win a title.
FuShengAlex 4 years ago
Well i guess we'll never know, i believe the Bulls would won 8 straught if MJ hadnt leave, solid team with the greatest playoff performer in history of the game.
It would be an interesting matchup
rrTale 4 years ago
Well, why DIDN'T they win while he was "IN" the league then?
That's right, they kept getting BEATEN by ALL OF THE TEAMS MJ & the Bulls were BEATING in the FINALS..
blackadam06 3 years ago
Uhh maybe because they weren't ready yet.
1995 playoffs Hakeem swept the same team that beat MJ in 6 playoff games.
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
Which justs PROVES at THAT TIME, if the Bulls WERE the team they were from '91-'93 & '96-'98, SHOULDN'T they have been commpeting for the Title? Yet they WEREN'T!!
So how MORONIC would does it sound for someone to claim that the Bulls coulda', shoulda', woulda' done vs the Rockets in the playoffs "IF" they would've met in the Finals, when they couldn't even get out of their conference? Uh-huh..just what I thought.
Same thing can be said about the Rockets & their team from '91-'93..
blackadam06 3 years ago
Idiot it's what the Jordan fanboys are saying.
There was no Cassell/Horry in 90-91 and they swept the Bulls. In 92-93 they only had Horry. They didn't have their championship team yet which is why they didn't meet from 91-93.
GTFO with this simplistic analysis.
96-98
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
So what! The bulls had no Kukoc or Kerr or Rodman either during those years! So what's your point?..
Again, if the Rockets couldn't even get out of their own conference to face the Bulls in the Finals & PROVE they were the BETTER team during 1991-93, what makes U think they would've beaten MJ in the FINALS of all places?
blackadam06 3 years ago
Nice try. They had Paxson (Kerr) and Grant (Rodman). What did Kukoc do as a starter? Shit. 1994-95 they didn't have a PF and were at their most vulnerable.
Why you think the Bulls signed Rodman fool? They were WEAK inside. Grant ate them alive in '95.
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
Interior Defense WAS NOT the problem that year. How could it be? They ranked 2nd in the league in pts per 100 possessions given up, vs. 6th in 1993-94.
They also had the 6th BEST EFG% defense, which indicates opponents WERN'T getting easy shots, which would occur if the interior defense were as bad as you seem to think it was.
They were also 1st in the league at forcing T.O's. Just the previous 2 season ('92 & '93)they ranked in those 2 areas, 12th & 6th.
blackadam06 3 years ago
Uhhh you seem not to read correctly. I was referring to their playoff series vs. Orlando in 1995.
They couldn't do shit to Grant/O'Neal combo w/o a power forward in the playoffs with Kukoc defending in the paint.
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
Which only HIGHLIGHTS their OFFENSIVE INEFFICENCIES that year, not their DEFENSIVE shortcomings.
That's what their problem was vs Orlando that year, & EVERYBODY else for that matter. Couple that with a rusty MJ figuring his way back unto to team that ALREADY had no continuity as far it's chemistry, is it any wonder why they were "Up & Down", in terms of their play in 1995?
blackadam06 3 years ago
Sorry....no Grant, no Rodman = no rings for MJ in '95 no matter what "shape" the MJ fanboys try to portray him in.
Career numbers 33.4 ppg 48% in the playoffs.
Vs. Orlando 48% & 31.5 ppg.
So even with MJ "in shape" he was only less than 2 ppg off his career playoff scoring avg. vs. Orlando. So lemme guess + 1.9 ppg woulda beat Orlando huh?
Stop these sorry assed sob stories about your hero. The Bulls weren't good enough to win in '95 w/o a PF no matter what shape MJ was in.
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
The Rockets weren't "good enough" to get out of their own conference or win a title during 1991-93 "WITH" Hakeem either, but yet U imply they would've beaten chigago in the Finals..LOL!
MJ's avg's for the Playoffs that yr is a testament to his ability to STEP IT UP when needed.
This SAME MJ U claim WAS in shape, during his 17 Reg Season games that yr, ONLY avg'd 27ppg 7rpg & 5apg on 41% shooting. OBVIOULSY, after damn near 2 yrs off, his shooting touch WAS rusty & his FG% reflects that.
blackadam06 3 years ago
Stop hiding from the truth smart ass. I brought up his playoff averages.
And the SAME MJ averaged 31.5 ppg and 48% shooting in 1995. Nearly identical with his career postseason avg. and his team still LOST in 1995.
And you MJ fanboys are trying to claim MJ being"rusty" as the chief reason Hakeem won in '95. So lemme guess + 2 ppg woulda made MJ sweep through the field in 95 huh?
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
Explain all the INCONSISTENT play from him during those 17 games then? He NEVER did that B4 he retired. How could he have NOT been rusty after damn near 2 yrs gone?
For U to say he WASN'T rusty, is to imply it's possible for someone to take 2 yrs off & come back & IMMEDIATELY pick back up where they left off, just 2 yrs prior, WITHOUT missing a beat. That's humanly IMPOSSIBLE!
You're Indirectly saying he's the G.O.A.T, which I KNOW U hate to do LOL!!
Think about that for a second.
blackadam06 3 years ago
And Fanboy I'm not, I'm too Old School for that nonsense. I'm a FAN of the Game. I give credit where it's due. U wanna talk about fanboys, go talk to these dumb ass kobe homers.
Not only is there an ABUNDANCE of 'em, they're by FAR the most Ignorant, Uninformed of the bunch. U should have a field day with them..
blackadam06 3 years ago
Look at this dude trying to stray away from the topic at hand.
31.5 ppg and 48% shooting and he still lost. Remarkably consistent with his CAREER post-season numbers. How do you MJ fanboys explain that when you say Hakeem is "lucky" that MJ retired so he could get his 2 rings?
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
I didn't say Hakeem was lucky. I said he didn't win 1 Title while MJ was in Top Form, for a "FULL" season.
I've NEVER discredited his Titles. That would be dumb on my part. One doesn't win back 2 back Titles & it's luck. Only an idiot would say that.
But I'm not buying a Houston over Chicago in a Finals setting based on Reg Season matchups. ESPECIALLY when they couldn't even get out of the West when the Bulls were winning! They REPEATEDLY lost to the teams the Bulls beat in the Finals!
blackadam06 3 years ago
"Look at this dude trying to stray away from the topic at hand."
How? I've addressed EVERY issue you've laid B4 me.
"31.5 ppg & 48% shooting & he still lost."
'HE' didn't lose, The TEAM lost! It's funny how guys like yourself will CREDIT his "TEAM", when we're discussing his INDIVIDUAL exploits, but will say it's "HIS" lost when the TEAM loses.
31.5ppg on 48% FG% is a TESTAMENT to "HIS" ability to STEP UP in the Playoffs! That's remarkable, considering he was GONE for about 2 yrs..
blackadam06 3 years ago
Matters not what you're buying or not. The FACT is the Bulls LOST against the Magic WITH MJ averaging his PLAYOFF CAREER numbers which = FULL FORM.
And the Rockets SWEPT that same team.
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
You're really DESPERATE LOL! U need SOMETHING to rag on MJ/Bulls about, so U keep harping on "1" series
1991 L.A. over Houston -- L.A. loses to Chicago in the Finals.
1992 Rockets weren't in the Playoffs -- Bulls won Title.
1993 Houston to Seattle in the Semis -- Bulls Won Title.
1996 Seattle over Houston -- Seattle loses to Chicago in the Finals.
1997 Utah over Houston -- Utah loses to Chicago in the Finals.
1998 Utah over Houston..again -- Utah loses to Chicago in the Finals..again..
blackadam06 3 years ago
91 there was a laker starter injured in every game the bulls won. the only game the lakers won was game 1 where they had there whole starting five. who rememebers that?
td111182 3 years ago
And we've already went over 91-93.
No Cassell or Horry in 90-91 season. No Cassell or Horry in 91-92. No Cassell in '93 and Horry was an inexperienced rookie. And yet they won 5 of 6 from the Bulls in that span WHILE THEY WERE DOMINATING THE LEAGUE despite not having the same roster as their championship team.
Once they had those two and Hakeem playing at his peak were they able to REACH the finals.
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
U keep talkin about Reg Season games as if they're the bottom line. Hell, the lakers from 1991-93 had a 4-2 record vs Chicago!
Your DESPERATION in trying to prove Houston was better, is only MAGNIFIED by the fact that U can ONLY harp on "1" series Chicago Lost & Reg Season matchups & foolishly claiming MJ was at full strength after being GONE for 2 yrs, with no basketball training WHATSOEVER! LOL!! How IDIOTIC is that?
The Rockets beat The Bulls 5 of 6 times in the Reg Season..clap**clap
blackadam06 3 years ago
Uhhh what part of: "NO POWER FORWARD IN THE 1994-95 SEASON" can't you understand?
No Rodman......no Grant = curtains for the Bulls 94-95 title hopes, regardless of MJ.
Of course I'll leave you MJ fanboys to hold onto the "MJ didn't play a full season" mambo jambo. LOL.
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
Stop avoiding the FACT that your beloved Rockets couldn't even get out of the West to even COMPETE for a Title when The Bulls were winning them.
Stop avoiding the Fact that they couldn't even get in the Playoffs in '94 "WITH" Hakeem. If Hakeem's MJ's equal as U say, he should've been able to at LEAST do that. LOL!!
Of course, I'll leave you Rockets/Hakeem fanboys to hold unto your "Horry was a rookie & we didn't have Cassell" mambo jumbo excuses y'all love to use for their shortcomings..
blackadam06 3 years ago
"Stop avoiding the Fact that they couldn't even get in the Playoffs in '94 "WITH" Hakeem."
I meant '92..typo
blackadam06 3 years ago
And also they only had Rudy T from 92-93 and on. Look at their win totals once he became coach of the team.
Did the Bulls win a title in Phil Jackson's 1st year as coach? LOL.
Nice of you to dance away from the Bulls NOT HAVING A POWER FORWARD in 94-95 playoffs vs. Orlando btw.
Why u think MJ went to management demanding they sign a PF after lambasting Kukoc's softness?
U think they signed Rodman because of his cross-dressing ability fool? LOL.
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
"Did the Bulls win a title in Phil Jackson's 1st year as coach?"
They got to within 1 game of the Finals..Not a Title, but a good season nonetheless.
And since your gonna keep harping on the Bulls losing that "1" Playoff Series to the Magic as a means to insenuate their inferiority to the Rockets, I'll keep harping on the fact that the Rockets didn't even make the playoffs in '92 & kept LOSING to the teams the Bulls were BEATING in the Finals.
So that makes us about even..
blackadam06 3 years ago
U keep trying to insenuate that the Rockets would've BEATEN them in the Finals & when asked to explain why they couldn't even get out of the west to compete against the Bulls while they were winning Titles, U come back with:
"Uhh maybe because they weren't ready yet."
Well, which is it? How can U insenuate on one hand what they coulda' shoulda' woulda' done, but then undermine your OWN argument with that comment? LOL!!
And all U can do is harp on "1" losing series for the Bulls?
blackadam06 3 years ago
in 93 there was a bad call against the dream and they lost in 7 games to seattle. they would have won sweep the sun in the wcf then olajuwon would have put 50 a game on cartwright. in 95 it didnt matter who they played they would have lost to houston. and jordan "retired" because he gamlbed on games 1 and 2 in 93 ecf and he lost both games sterns rigged league let him retired to take off the heat. jordan breaks players wills do u really think the dream could have been broken.
td111182 3 years ago
great post
jeroel 3 years ago
Sorry bud, the Bulls lost to the Magic in 6 games, who the Rockets swept.
Lemme see here, you lose to a team, and another team beats that team. And the team that wins still has "question marks" because they didn't face a team that LOST 2 series before to the team THEY swept in the Finals?
And yet I still have to hear how Hakeem didn't go through MJ to get his rings.
Uh huh,lol.
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
Sorry Bud, but the Rockets lost to EVERY team the Bulls Beat in the Finals (except for '92 & '93) & couldn't even MAKE the playoffs in '92 to compete for a Title.
And the West at that time was what the east is now.
If U wanna' harp on the Bulls losing 1 series to a team the Rockets beat, as means of accomplishments & a reason to stick your chest out, fine. I can do the SAME thing regarding SEVERAL teams the Bulls beat, that first & FOREMOST beat the Rockets in rout to facing chicago..
blackadam06 3 years ago
Yeah the West THEN was the East of TODAY "at that time".
Geez you'd think beating 3 teams in a row in the WC that won 55 or more games in a season would make you realize how DUMB that statement truly.
Then again, you're the same cat trying to tell me Larry Bird in 85-86 was nothing more than a jumpshooter,lol.
Are you UT-Fanatic's evil twin or something?
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
"Geez you'd think beating 3 teams in a row in the WC that won 55 or more games in a season would make you realize how DUMB that statement truly."
Really? Well how come the Rockets couldn't beat 'em then? And your calling my comment dumb..
blackadam06 3 years ago
Your comment IS dumb.
1995 playoffs....Utah Phoenix and S.Antonio all teams with 55 wins or more. All teams Houston won against on the road.
And Orlando who had 57 wins that they swept. But I guess Chicago lost to the SAME team in 6 games because MJ was "outta shape".
Dream on dude!
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
Your comment IS dumb.
1995 playoffs....Utah Phoenix and S.Antonio all teams with 55 wins or more. All teams Houston won against on the road.
And Orlando who had 57 wins that they swept. But I guess Chicago lost to the SAME team in 6 games because MJ was "outta shape".
Dream on dude!
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
sorry ,but fact is every year it's an amazing feat to win the NBA CHAMPIONSHIP,no matter who is injured,old or retired..and to bring up not making the playoffs that 1 time is a joke.maybe you forgot that Mike had a losing record every year until Pip got to Chicago in Mike's 4th year,or that Dream was beating up the league since he was a rookie,until his 2nd best player got racked up.Mike from his 4th year on always had a great teamate in Pip,Dream played w/out any great teamates until he was old
jeroel 3 years ago
"maybe you forgot that Mike had a losing record every year until Pip got to Chicago"
Maybe I "REMEMBER" a franchise that hadn't been to the Playoffs since '81 & had "ONLY" won 27 games the prior year, until MJ showed up. I remember them "MAKING" the Playoffs MJ's rookie year, LARGELY in part due to "HIM"!
"Dream was beating up the league since he was a rookie"
And MJ wasn't? As a ROOKIE, MJ led his team in scoring, steals, assists & REBOUNDING..the "ONLY" rookie in HISTORY, to do so..
blackadam06 3 years ago
And Pippen didn't even CONSISTENTLY start his 1st 3 yrs! He "MAINLY" came off the BENCH behind B. Sellers!
So U think while MJ was "LEADING" a starting 5 of D. Corzine, S. Vincent, C. Oakley, B. Sellers to 50 wins & the 2nd Rd, while INDIVIDUALLY winning the Scoring Title, Reg Season & All Star MVP, Def Player Of The Year, Over 200 steal & 100 Blocks..a Top 5 Season ALL TIME..all this was the result of having Pippen, someone who was at that time, the 7th best player on the damn team?
LOL!!
blackadam06 3 years ago
opinions vary,but facts are hard to deny..Mike played 3 years when he was young w/out Scottie,and 2 years when he was old w/out SCOTTIE...all 5 years Mike had a losing record...reply to that,lol
jeroel 3 years ago
your right and mj is my fav player of all time but he couldnt of won without help niether could any other player
mankSandhu 3 years ago
they got to the playoffs with a losing record-quite lucky to do so..and Both players came to teams that were last place the year before..Dream went to 2nd his 1st year and took down the Lakers,5 titles in 80's Lakers-Dream's 2nd year...Mike got swept in 1st round his 1st 2 years..fact is when Dream had a great teamate in his youth,he always kicked ass w/out exception..Mike lost every year-losing records every year he didn't have a great teamate..Dream won the title w/out any all star teamates
jeroel 3 years ago
uhhhhh they DID get into the playoffs in 94, in fact they won the title,lol.
Cassell and Horry were KEY playoff contributors during their title years. Cassell showed great clutch ability vs the Knicks. It's no EXCUSE to say they weren't on the team together when they didn't compete for the title in the early 90's.
Hakeem is the best at his position, and needn't not be compared to MJ who's also the best at his position.
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
uhhhhh they DID get into the playoffs in 94, in fact they won the title,lol.
The '94 was a typo..didn't U see the correction? Sheess..I said, I meant '92..
blackadam06 3 years ago
The Rockets beat a team that the Bulls were eliminated by. In fact they SWEPT them.
Not trying to rub dirt in MJ's face because the Bulls did the deed to West teams that eliminated HOU more than the other way around.
Reality is MJ or no MJ, the Bulls were no title contenders in 94-95 and the Rockets were.
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
"Not trying to rub dirt in MJ's face because the Bulls did the deed to West teams that eliminated HOU more than the other way around."
Im glad u cleared that one out cause i was about to rub it on ur face lol. We'll never know how the league would be if MJ never retired in '93. All we know is the Rockets won 2 consecutive titles cause they were the best team, no question about that.
blast2blast 3 years ago
blast2blast......the facts are there to see.
Houston won in 1995. Swept the Magic.
Chicago LOST in 6 games WITH MJ in the league averaging his career post-season scoring & FG % which renders the argument MJ fanboys use that Hakeem only won because MJ retired to be quite simply a pile of crap.
Again no power forward meant the Bulls couldn't win in 95.
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
Alot of people still say the rockets would have won because they beat the bulls in the reg season (5-1) from 91-93. people would say vernon maxwell would shut him down under 30 points, they couldnt stop hakeem. i think the bulls could have pulled it of in 94 and 95. vernon maxwell never played against a playoff version of MJ, and not only that, when the Bulls beat the Cavs in the 89 playoffs 3-2, everybody forgets that the Cavs were 6-0 against the Bulls in the reg season.
AgentCirrus 3 years ago
i forgot to mention the bulls could win it in 94 and 95 if MJ never retired
AgentCirrus 3 years ago
6 billion people on the planet,And it doesn't matter who is retired or injured..if you can lead a team to the NBA Championship,you are "THE MAN"-as anyone with common sense knows the greatest teams and greatest players are in the NBA...DREAM USUALLY BEAT MJ ANYWAY,AND MIKE KNEW HE COULD BEAT ANYONE ELSE BUT OLAJUWON IN THE FINALS..OF THE ALL TIME SHOT BLOCK CHAMPION,MIKE WASN'T SO CONFIDENT.....ALL THE "WOULD HAVES" DON'T MEAN SHIT AS OLAJUWON REALISTICALLY WAS THE GREATEST PLAYER FROM '93-'95
jeroel 3 years ago
"if you can lead a team to the NBA Championship,you are "THE MAN"
Uh-huh..no argument from me, but let's "REMEMBER" those words for later..
"OLAJUWON REALISTICALLY WAS THE GREATEST PLAYER FROM '93-'95"
Wait a minute, didn't U just say & I quote: "if you can lead a team to the NBA Championship,you are "THE MAN"
Again, no argument from me, but uh-oh, wait a minute..we have a problem Houston (LOL)..who won the title in '93?..
blackadam06 3 years ago
okay,you got me on that 1,but you should look at what Dream did in '93...his overall game was greater than Mike's..what i posted about being "the man" is basically correct-but the greatest player is often not on the best team..that was the case in '93,when Dream was greater than Mike
jeroel 3 years ago
yeah i agree from 93-94 to 94-95 hakeem was the man, my opinion the greatest center of alltime, even over Shaq and Wilt, but to be fair, no one will really knows who would have won had MJ and Hakeem met in June. u can say doing MJ's 1st 3 championship years, the rockets were 5-1 against the bulls, but to say MJ knew he couldnt beat Hakeem in the finals, i dont agree. i could say back in the 1988-89 season, the Cavs beat the Bulls 6-0 in the regular season, but in the playoffs the Bulls won
AgentCirrus 3 years ago
you misunderstood my post...i was making the point that Mike was confident in beating any other team,not saying he didn't think he could beat Houston,but Mike was definitely not sure of it..he really could play with most teams,but not with Olajuwon...immense respect came from Olajuwon to Jordan and vice versa-they both wanted the challenge of facing each other in the finals,fate didn't let it happen..too bad for all of us..peace
jeroel 3 years ago
no problem chief, anytime. i would rather have discussions with people like u anytime because u know ur stuff and u make me actually work for my replies, unlike these delusional kobe fans who say he's the GOAT. im one of the biggest MJ fans and i know my stats. MJ is and still is the GOAT, but Dream is the Greatest Center of Alltime. class of 84 was the best! Hakeem to me was always great, but the most underrated center ever. one of few nba players to get better as he got older.
AgentCirrus 3 years ago
you're a cool cat.but this '98 game is an example of how Mike was better than Dream w/out argument(by '98).pick out any year before '98 and debate the greatness of both players.Olajuwon didn't get the numbers or the awards,but you've gotta realize he was completely kicking teams asses on the defensive end.add that to consistently being top 10 in scoring,always over 50%,and 71% from the line(good for a center)you've basically got Ben Wallace who is unstoppable on offense.Jordan still young at 35
jeroel 3 years ago
No the Rockets won a title because they were THE BEST in 1995, not because MJ retired to chase hookers and bat .200 in double AA ball.
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
both air and dream could turn things around in the post season.....maybe you forgot the Spurs beat up the Rockets during the '95 reg. season,with David and Dream going pretty even...then in the post season Dream humiliated the MVP like no other mvp has been beat up before or since...Bottom line really is The Bulls had a very tough time with Dream and Company,even though the Bulls were a more talented team overall.Chances are good that even with MJ at full strength,the Rockets still rule '94 @'95
jeroel 3 years ago
just wonder how come nobody brings up the time when MJ came back for a full season in the 1995-96 season, he was even quoted saying Olajuwon is the best and he even sent a warning out to the rockets in 95-96 letting them know he was after their crown. during MJ's 2nd 3peat the Bulls were 5-1 against Hakeem's rockets. people may say the rockets had injuries or no chemistry, but like u said, all the "WOULD HAVES" dont mean anything as MJ realistically took back his ring and his place as the best.
AgentCirrus 3 years ago
you've respected Dream more than any Jordan fan i know of.......peace out,Jeroel
jeroel 3 years ago
sure everybody remembers the 2 consecutive 200stl/100blk seasons MJ had and no one else has EVER done. Dream was the 1st to get 200 stl/200blk in a season, but was overlooked because MJ had 32.5ppg/8ast/8rb with 10 tripledoubles in 11 games along with 7 consecutive. everybody knows he's the alltime swatter but he leads alltime in steals as a center. he embarrassed Drob in the playoffs, destroyed PatEwing in the finals,and humiliated Shaqfu in the 2nd finals,all while selling his shoes at Payless
AgentCirrus 3 years ago
yeah MJ had a alright 95 playoffs, really impressive considering he's was in baseball shape, but his jumping ability and jumpshots were not up to MJ standards. yeah he had 31.5 ppg at 48% shooting, but that was deceptive. he would miss jumpshots and layups he normally would make, he had uncharacteristic turnovers and the team chemistry didnt have time to change since he came back late in the reg season.Thats why Orlando won. MJ was still and is the GOAT, but Hakeem was the top player in 94-95.
AgentCirrus 3 years ago
Yeah right bud, oh lemme guess there's some forbidden rule that MJ wasn't allowed to have off moments in the playoffs huh?
How about games 1 & 2 '93 ECF vs. the Knicks? Or the Bulls making a comeback vs. Por in '92 with him on the bench in gm6?
No Power forward meant they couldn't beat Orlando regardless of the "shape" MJ fanboys bring up, much less face Houston and beat the Rockets.
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
Stop hiding from the truth smart ass. I brought up his playoff averages.
And the SAME MJ averaged 31.5 ppg and 48% shooting in 1995. Nearly identical with his career postseason avg. and his team still LOST in 1995.
And you MJ fanboys are trying to claim MJ being"rusty" as the chief reason Hakeem won in '95. So lemme guess + 2 ppg woulda made MJ sweep through the field in 95 huh?
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
They DID win when MJ was in the league ok. 1995 Orlando 4-2 over Chicago.
Houston 4-0 over the same Orlando team. Don't bring this bullcrap to me.
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
If they were who you're trying to make 'em out to be during 1991-93, why DIDN'T they win ANY titles during that time? They ONLY won DURING MJ's Absence..
I give 'em their just due because hell, they WON it. I can't discredit that. But if they're the TEAM U make 'em out to be, why couldn't they ever make it to the Finals to face MJ to PROVE it?!?!
They kept LOSING to the teams the bulls were beating for the Title!
5-1 vs them WOULD be SIGNIFICANT, if it happened in the PLAYOFFS..
blackadam06 3 years ago
Exactly give them their due and tell your MJ fanboy friends to shut tha fuck up with this "Hakeem could only win because MJ retired" bullshit.
MJ was in the league and his ass got whupped in '95. Houston swept the team he couldn't beat. They won four playoff series w/o homecourt advantage against teams with 55 or more wins. Tell your MJ fanboy buddies not to sell me this crap that Hakeem took the "easy way out" to cop his rings.
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
this is y there should be an asterist next to those 2 rockets championships cuz if MJ does not retire they bulls win i mean come on michael killed that time the Rockets should thank michael he is the reason they won those championships because he retired
greg2brown 4 years ago
Greg2Brown.....man just shut tha fuck up. Here's some info for you to chew on:
During Bulls 1st 3peat years in 91-93 Hakeem playing with a bunch of nobodies owned MJ 5-1 head to head and his team hadn't even reached a Finals yet.
FuShengAlex 4 years ago
Well why did the Rockets, come PLAYOFF time, CONSISTENTLY LOSE to ALL of the teams MJ & the Bulls were BEATING in the Finals?
U can't use what they did vs the Bulls in the Reg Season, as a gauge to what U THINK they'd vs them in a Playoff setting, ESPECIALLY since MJ & the Bulls went to ANOTHER level in the playoffs! How dumb is that?!?!
If Hakeem & the Rockets were the team U CLAIM they were at that time, don't U think they should've MADE the Finals to PROVE their mettle vs the Bulls?
blackadam06 3 years ago
Oh yes I can if clowns are going to put a asterisk besides Hakeem's 2 titles.
He is the only player from the time MJ entered the NBA til when he retired to have a winning record head to head against him.
FuShengAlex 3 years ago
that black uniform is the shit too bad they didnt wear it more often
airderekjeter2 4 years ago
Vintage Michael Jordan, fadeaways, hang time, alley hoops, all here. Thx for the upload jxn23
rrTale 4 years ago
Did you see how MJ froze Olajuwan on that crossover to the hoop for the stuff? Ill stuff!
jeanrollan 4 years ago
You seem to capture the games wher Mike hits from every angle. Great game jxn23!
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romans6thru8 4 years ago
Yeah. Although the Bulls first title broke my heart because it was against LA, they were not as good then as they were later. Imagine if MJ doesn't retire, they could've won 8 TITLES!
theultimateimageuplo 4 years ago
and if your aunt had ball she'd be your uncle........tough matchup between Rockets and Bulls......no one knows so Dream keeps his titles w/out stupid astericks like the 1 you'd like to give him
jeroel 3 years ago
damn
deonh79 4 years ago
During the late stages of Jordan's career ('96-'98) he became an athletic Larry Bird with his savvy and that jumpshot.
3DStoneCt 4 years ago
The 1995-98 Bulls were much better than the 1991-1993 Bulls. I hated Jordan as a Pistons fan but once he came back and they had Rodman, I started to love how that entire team played because they taught those sorry young guys what the game was all about. They were old school and had no competition from 1995-98.
3DStoneCt 4 years ago
That's so true, and something seldom talked about today. The Bulls had the highest average age in the league, right around 30 yrs, during those last three championships. if you could transport that team to the present, I think they'd be even more dominant against today's brainless competition
pheeeel17 4 years ago
I am from China.I am 26 years old.I like MJ very much.Now I can watch the NBA live in TV. Though Koge, Wade are very excellent , I found nobody can compare with MJ.MJ can fly.His comportment is artistic.And he is enterprising.He can control the competition.I don't know how many people like him now in USA.Whther all the young blood like Kobe? I hope make American friends by my E-mail
kody2008 4 years ago
barkley couldnt even guard me, 5 foot 9 inch skinny white boy
dr144 4 years ago
kevin should be slapped for saying something like that
oneluv24 4 years ago
NAHH MAN I DIS-AGREE JORDAN'S THE BEST JORDAN'S JUST THE BEST CAUSE EVRYONE S*CK'S BAC IN THE DAY imagine him playing now agains Lebron James, Wade ,NOWITZKI, BEAT U HE WONT WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP
kevin470 5 years ago
Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Dominique Wilkins are all better than todays players.
glawz 5 years ago
How dare you include Dominique with those all time greats! Vinsanity is today's 'Nique - all highlights and nothing else.
hahafunnyman 4 years ago
your saying wade, nowitizki and lebron would stop jordan from winning championships? thats just stupid for so many reasons. you had to be kidding when u wrote that. jordans bulls are a hell of alot better than any team today. todays game is soft with all the offensively oriented rules, jordan would have better carear numbers and more championships if he played in todays era.
dr144 4 years ago
yup ur hockey sucks!!! hockey rules!!!-kevin470, hockey my ass!!! assholes. Dont talk bout basketball if dont know the game, dummy.
milk23fish 4 years ago
Dirk and Wade didn't even get out of the first round! U must be like 5 years old if u think those players u named are even close to MJ.
Johnnyyoo 4 years ago
Nowitzki is a choke artist and so are his teams. Nowitzki couldn't beat GS. Shut up fool.
bobo0383 4 years ago
He´s the best
KCRyder 5 years ago
Jordan #1 ALL Time, no one is even close. He made 3 Hall of Famers Akeem, Clyde and Charles look like pylons. Jordan rules.
moecreek70 5 years ago
In 97 they had a better game in Houston, that the Rockets actually won. I was hoping the Bulls and Rockets would have been the NBA finals, but it was not to be, thanks to a Stockton three.
Lionthird 5 years ago
and piss poor defense from sir charles
darockk 5 years ago
houston would've made it an interesting finals in 97. dont know about 98, though.
tdvu 5 years ago
clyde looked like he was about 50 years old trying to cover MJ...
thesly25 5 years ago
Just wow... Jordan > Barkley + Drexler + Olajuwon
golaitz 5 years ago
hey give pippen some credit too, he didn't do it all himself...
tdvu 5 years ago
AND RODMAN grabbed 13+ rebounds,he deserved some credit 2
andytimmons1230 5 years ago
but after all, jordan was still the No.1 offensive weapon in the league back in 1998,even though he was nearly 35 years old,just look at those moves, and jump shots,isn't that amazing..
andytimmons1230 5 years ago
nice clip...a whole bunch of Legends on the court at once..you should make another clip but have the other greats feature too.
darockk 5 years ago
Nice video. I've seen this game, but it was nice to see again. :) Jordan just had a slithery quickness to him.
jordanlover23 5 years ago
Thanks for the post, I never saw this game.
andgar923 5 years ago
awesome
Gran4 5 years ago