I understand what you're saying, but I don't think you can simply put Irreversible into such a broad group as 'modern movies'. WALL-E is a modern movie and I wouldn't define that as ugly and tasteless.
One of the most vile and repulsive movies I have ever seen. A perverse use of the magnificent Beethoven music. Enter the Void was another piece of junk. It is the equivelence of having several filthy fingers forced down your throat. Pointless and indulgent shit.
@madahad9 As the subject matter of this film concerns rape and murder, I'd be concerned if it wasn't portrayed in a vile and repulsive manner. On the other hand, if you think think that having several filthy fingers forced down your throat is indulgent, maybe Irreversible is a little tame for you.
@WombleHunterB Such a scene could have been filmed differently and still have the same power without being so revulsive. It is just cruel sensationalization of a horrible event and illustrates how ugly and tastless modern movies have become. It not about telling compelling stories any longer but rather empty shock value. This an ugly movie for ugly people.
@madahad9 For over a hundred years there have been movie-makers that have used extreme imagery in order to shock their audiences, and vice versa there have been audiences that like to be shocked. I like to be shocked by movies such as Irreversible because it proves that I am not capable of the disstasteful acts presented to me. I disagree with you that it is an empty experience to be shocked by a movie.
I would call the structure of the film more like a V. You start on the first top of the V, and move down to the tip - seeing these enraged guys from an objective outside view. The tip V is their new beautiful life together , with their new family starting. Intrinsically you now review the things you saw of what is going to happen to these people and see it with new eyes - only this time you see the enraged guys with sympathy, perhaps as yourself if it happened to you - makes you want to cry .
@lordofbaraddur - so do you see this scene as being not-real (it's imagined by character), cause in this scene she's clearly pregnant, but i don't remember that being obvious in the rest of the movie.
ie if the rest of the film was after this scene then she'd have been clearly pregnant in the rest of the film.
hmmm i just reminded myself of what pleadian spinning achieves
@jointje101 - yeah it could have been just a 'what if she didn't get raped', i thought that too but tended to go more with the other interpretation. or even a - she did get raped, but it didn't disrupt the pregnancy. it's ambigious because she's happy at the end & the scenes seem to be depicting a kind of blissful existence, playing in the park etc - but her boyfriend isn't there.
who else got raped in this though, i don't remember that part.
There is no beginning or end. It's the interconnected, everchanging wheel that's constantly spinning. This movie also describes the impermanence of everything. The philosophy is fuckin buddhism.
@kclvampire1010 never thought of this film as buddhist... well done i think like every scene has the same weight .. like violence its the same as love and tenderness... the chaos in how he films... the dizzyness... i always thought of this film as of greek tragedy... somewhat it has buddhist elements in it as well
Freeze-frame during the strobe at the end--some interesting shots.
Having delved quite deeply into the fields of neuro-psychology/traumatology & consciousness studies...I think Noe is brilliant in some respects--he really captures the inner-workings of the mind... And why must we assume a linear model of space/time...The "ending" may very well be a node on a continuum (time as a cycle/spiral/vortex) ...his nod to 2001 hints at this...much to ponder if one transcends Cartesian paradigms.
@pathoplastic2 - she isn't this pregnant in the rest of the film is she (i don't remember that being the case anyway & i don't recall that they had a child - if they did then just ignore this then), so this scene is afterwards. it always looked to me like it's saying the child (starchild 2001 poster) is the guy from the tunnel/s.
Reality all time is eternally present; that past, present and future are all happening together in some way. Time exists both simultaneously and linearly. The book she's reading is "An Experiment with Time" by JW Dunne and it is a key to this riddle.
@leesydney82 - i think it might be about a whole other experiment with time, involving spin cycles and revolving corridors. like if they awoke in a vegas hotel room instead, the book would have been a copy of The Death Ship lying by their head
@rovedapaolo Hey the music is Symphony No.7 in A Major by Beethoven, i think thats what you're asking anyway, the part of the symphony used is in the related videos, happy listening
This just leaves me so enthralled with beauty....and relief...its actually JUST as powerful as the horrific parts. Im still trying to decipher the entire meaning ....O__O
spoiler!!
AloisHUN 1 day ago
i loved this film sorry too..is just amazing!
aramivar 3 weeks ago
I understand what you're saying, but I don't think you can simply put Irreversible into such a broad group as 'modern movies'. WALL-E is a modern movie and I wouldn't define that as ugly and tasteless.
WombleHunterB 4 weeks ago
One of the most vile and repulsive movies I have ever seen. A perverse use of the magnificent Beethoven music. Enter the Void was another piece of junk. It is the equivelence of having several filthy fingers forced down your throat. Pointless and indulgent shit.
madahad9 1 month ago
@madahad9 As the subject matter of this film concerns rape and murder, I'd be concerned if it wasn't portrayed in a vile and repulsive manner. On the other hand, if you think think that having several filthy fingers forced down your throat is indulgent, maybe Irreversible is a little tame for you.
WombleHunterB 4 weeks ago
@WombleHunterB Such a scene could have been filmed differently and still have the same power without being so revulsive. It is just cruel sensationalization of a horrible event and illustrates how ugly and tastless modern movies have become. It not about telling compelling stories any longer but rather empty shock value. This an ugly movie for ugly people.
madahad9 4 weeks ago
@madahad9 For over a hundred years there have been movie-makers that have used extreme imagery in order to shock their audiences, and vice versa there have been audiences that like to be shocked. I like to be shocked by movies such as Irreversible because it proves that I am not capable of the disstasteful acts presented to me. I disagree with you that it is an empty experience to be shocked by a movie.
WombleHunterB 4 weeks ago
How to shoot such a scene?
Very beautiful.
satoshimovie 2 months ago
its as shocking as Clockwork Orange but then in modern/agressive time. This is art people.
1980venom 3 months ago
loved the film, sorry
BobDakota 3 months ago
El tiempo lo destruye todo!
ozkar078 4 months ago
I feel that a spoon just cracked my eyes in two pieces each...
Einvestigator96 4 months ago
Beethoven, Thank you very much. You're an additition to human intellect.
BeelaTeismar 7 months ago
The ending Of Irreversible is the opening of Enter The Void.
naranjamecanica74 7 months ago
Perfectly put. beautiful piece of music.
corpusvile1 7 months ago
Brilliant choice for an beginning/ending..
BeelaTeismar 9 months ago
Yay free acid trip at the end :]
nanutek 9 months ago
argh, i really wanted to see the "time destroys everything" that appears after the strobe!
MichaelLeroi 10 months ago
One of the most underrated films of all times. A deeply poetic masterpiece. An abyss gazing into you.
kirkenes 10 months ago
Die Zeit zerstört alles.
Li4r 11 months ago
I would call the structure of the film more like a V. You start on the first top of the V, and move down to the tip - seeing these enraged guys from an objective outside view. The tip V is their new beautiful life together , with their new family starting. Intrinsically you now review the things you saw of what is going to happen to these people and see it with new eyes - only this time you see the enraged guys with sympathy, perhaps as yourself if it happened to you - makes you want to cry .
sequoiagrovemetal 11 months ago
The King's Speech totally ripped off this music. Irreversible is where it belongs.
chemicalbrotherkid 11 months ago
This movie was... Man, if it weren't for the subtitles I probably woulda been looking about the whole time.
Powerful...
Now could somebody tell me what this song is before I kill the iTunes jag off who can't figure it out!!!
kittylicker013 1 year ago
@kittylicker013 Symphony number 7 in A major op 92
Sjobakken95 1 year ago
@kittylicker013 beethoven´s 7th symphony, i believe
asocial33 7 months ago
Awesome scene, but you cut off the "le temps detruit tout" banner, dude...!
WetKant 1 year ago
0:56 symbolism detected:
a baby´s image in 2001: A space odyssey. Indicating pregnancy?
The ultimate trip. A trip to the beginning of the film?
Einvestigator96 1 year ago
@Einvestigator96 What simbolism? They`re pretty forward in saying she`s pregnant...
WetKant 1 year ago
@WetKant
Maybe?
Einvestigator96 1 year ago
this is art !!!
henriquetaylor13 1 year ago
The music and camerawork are magnificent, and very effective.
Cheers for uploading.
rem2267 1 year ago
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IINesasta 1 year ago
@IINesasta dude dont suck it off its not that big a deal
eftultimate 1 year ago
@IINesasta If you thought youtube only has 2 videos and videos with no artistical merit, you are living underneath a pretty large boulder.
VagrantWatcher213 1 year ago
@VagrantWatcher213
...what?
I'm saying these types of videos are undercredited. not that theres just three videos on youtube...
IINesasta 1 year ago
si, Mozart puo disturbare, solo per i malati. Altrimeneti è just music.
rovedapaolo 1 year ago
EPILEPSY WARNING, ANYONE ?
Adalbert101 1 year ago 24
@Adalbert101 yep... very fast white and black flashs can destroy the brain and make the viewer crazy. ^^
lamethodekoweit1 1 year ago
@Adalbert101 Yes, I vote for one to be added! I'm not epileptic, but this messes with my head in a serious way!
philbateman1989 11 months ago
I'm sorry I just don't understand. Does it fast forward to her pregnant? Is this before the everything? Can someone please explain this scene to me?
b1wdancer23 1 year ago
@b1wdancer23 This IS before the rape yes. in a sense this is the start of the story when she discovers that she is pregnant.
lordofbaraddur 1 year ago
@lordofbaraddur - so do you see this scene as being not-real (it's imagined by character), cause in this scene she's clearly pregnant, but i don't remember that being obvious in the rest of the movie.
ie if the rest of the film was after this scene then she'd have been clearly pregnant in the rest of the film.
hmmm i just reminded myself of what pleadian spinning achieves
JustSomePerson888 3 months ago
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jointje101 3 months ago
@jointje101 - yeah it could have been just a 'what if she didn't get raped', i thought that too but tended to go more with the other interpretation. or even a - she did get raped, but it didn't disrupt the pregnancy. it's ambigious because she's happy at the end & the scenes seem to be depicting a kind of blissful existence, playing in the park etc - but her boyfriend isn't there.
who else got raped in this though, i don't remember that part.
JustSomePerson888 3 months ago
no, the philosophy is not fuck buddhism, you're wrong on that
1ciscoo 1 year ago
Just have to listen to the music. Monica is just a part of the décor. Just Life.
rovedapaolo 1 year ago
There is no beginning or end. It's the interconnected, everchanging wheel that's constantly spinning. This movie also describes the impermanence of everything. The philosophy is fuckin buddhism.
kclvampire1010 1 year ago
@kclvampire1010 never thought of this film as buddhist... well done i think like every scene has the same weight .. like violence its the same as love and tenderness... the chaos in how he films... the dizzyness... i always thought of this film as of greek tragedy... somewhat it has buddhist elements in it as well
watashiwanachodes 1 year ago
beetoven c'est une symphonie n°7
LouiseRousseau 1 year ago
quelqu'un peut me dire qui est l'auteur de la chanson?? merci!
pochtek 1 year ago
penso che il film sia molto interessante ma duro a livello emozionale. Monica Bellucci puo fare delle parti psicologicamente molto profonde e bene.
rovedapaolo 1 year ago
Freeze-frame during the strobe at the end--some interesting shots.
Having delved quite deeply into the fields of neuro-psychology/traumatology & consciousness studies...I think Noe is brilliant in some respects--he really captures the inner-workings of the mind... And why must we assume a linear model of space/time...The "ending" may very well be a node on a continuum (time as a cycle/spiral/vortex) ...his nod to 2001 hints at this...much to ponder if one transcends Cartesian paradigms.
pathoplastic2 1 year ago 11
@pathoplastic2 - she isn't this pregnant in the rest of the film is she (i don't remember that being the case anyway & i don't recall that they had a child - if they did then just ignore this then), so this scene is afterwards. it always looked to me like it's saying the child (starchild 2001 poster) is the guy from the tunnel/s.
JustSomePerson888 3 months ago
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pathoplastic2 1 year ago
le temps detruit tout
eyehategumbo 1 year ago
Reality all time is eternally present; that past, present and future are all happening together in some way. Time exists both simultaneously and linearly. The book she's reading is "An Experiment with Time" by JW Dunne and it is a key to this riddle.
Enjoy this new age experimental film.
leesydney82 1 year ago
@leesydney82 - i think it might be about a whole other experiment with time, involving spin cycles and revolving corridors. like if they awoke in a vegas hotel room instead, the book would have been a copy of The Death Ship lying by their head
JustSomePerson888 3 months ago
from 3:33 to the end if you pause in the right moment you can see the space,stars and the galaxy...i'm not sure of it...but it looks like it
SoRiNgun 1 year ago
@SoRiNgun Hey! I think you're right.
CrossingScoville 1 year ago
its missing TIME DESTROYS ALL THINGS
TURBODORK2 1 year ago
During the video, I couldn't move my legs. And I had a headache. Man, I won't watch it again! It's too disturbing.
Arcane5672 1 year ago
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rovedapaolo 1 year ago
I wouldn't say it's a beautiful end. It's fitting - the seed of hope is sown, but the film seems to be about the gradual destruction of that hope.
Please let me know if you've a more optimistic reading!
aclose 1 year ago
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rovedapaolo 1 year ago
@aclose - I think you summed it up pretty well there.
NeuropolitiqueCOGGER 1 year ago
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rovedapaolo 1 year ago
I loved this scene! It's one of my most favourite ever
matihatthedisco 1 year ago
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rovedapaolo 1 year ago
@rovedapaolo seventh symphony du Beethoven
LoadedRevolver66 1 year ago
@rovedapaolo Hey the music is Symphony No.7 in A Major by Beethoven, i think thats what you're asking anyway, the part of the symphony used is in the related videos, happy listening
keyboardglued321 1 year ago
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rovedapaolo 1 year ago
Minha Cena Preferida do Cinema.
farriza 1 year ago
to some people this not the end ,is the begining.
MrManuloko 1 year ago
fuck me! awesome
lysander1 1 year ago
This just leaves me so enthralled with beauty....and relief...its actually JUST as powerful as the horrific parts. Im still trying to decipher the entire meaning ....O__O
liveinmymusic 1 year ago
when i first saw this film this blew my brain away
indencity 2 years ago
@indencity Oh, definitely. This final segment just brought the whole meaning of the film to me...that no matter what happens, we can't escape fate.
Goblingoddess1 2 years ago