I wouldn't be able to resist. If it sounds like a fiddle, I have to flatfoot. I don't care if I'm in a boat- I'm gonna flatfoot! Didn't anyone dance??
Wow, what a great memory. So cool that you took this video. I saw them here, just a few days later....It was outside the Georges Pompidou. I love this music.
actually this may not be so far from the truth! This type of singing is often used to soothe upset animals, especially when a mother rejects it's young. While the short statement by fungo sounds bigoted, if you asked a Tuvan, they may actually tell you this same thing!
I can't believe I have found this video !!! I was there on that day in Paris and the recorded sound does not represent truly the amazing tones generated by these artists. Incredible, unimaginable skill. I stood there for over an hour totally transfixed by these incredible and noble men who performed with a massive dignity few people will ever achieve. Listen and be stunned !
for those who don't know, the "pig squeal" is a modern type of overtone singing found in heavy metal music and is in many ways a decedent of the Tuvan style, though much harsher to hear.
This is a really good YouTube video of throat singing, and I am adding it to the favorites on my channel.
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i saw them 3 years ago at the same place in paris and i really get deaply impressed...especially by the oldest of the musicians who was able only to sing overtones...i thought: where is the voice??? thxs for upload
Thank you OctoBox for your reply. By the way, I hope nobody thought I was making fun of them in any way; I think they are great and amazingly professional.
I'm still racking my brains to think what song that sounds like to me; Lord Randal perhaps?
When they get to the end I hear the words "gallows tree" so I think it's probably an old English or Scottish song.
Isn't it annoying when you can't remember a song!!! Happens to me a lot.... :-)
The two songs are quite common mongolian songs with no english words. Mongolian music is uses the pentatonic scale so that's why you're hearing something familiar. It's also folk music which is not usually complicated.
That song sounds awfully like blue-grass and some of the early English folk songs; just imagine the same thing sung by blue grass singers with fiddle, banjo, etc......even the ending of phrases on the dominant chord...
I was just going to say they sound like Mongolian Hillbillies, smile. I mean they are country folk and this is folk music -- You have to admit that this is far more intricate than some appalachian singing, however -- those hillbillies can play the hell out of the banjo. Put the two together, bring in a digeradoo and you'd be set, smile.
Correct. Mongols are not Turkic, but Tuvans are. One group which knows this are the Mongols. Ghengis Khan recognized the Tuvans as a seperate race. His general, Subotai (sp?) was a Tuvan.
hey Tuvans are turkic speaking mongol ethnic group. my ancestors,Subotai and Zelme were mongol-urianhan.. Calling them Tuvans is just stupid! We call them urianhan as one subgroup.
What struck me as fascinating is how the low-pitched kargyra(?) overtone singing in this tune sounded very similar to the sound a jaw-harp (aka jews harp or juice harp) makes and the high-pitched sygyt(?) overtone singing sounded very reminiscent of a penny whistle (aka tin whistle, Irish whistle and Celtic whistle) or other such similar-pitch wind instruments. This makes me wonder if this ancient art did not then inspire those other instruments into existance....
exstreamly grateful that i was able to tour Europe and to see stuff like this. I could have really spent all day outside of the museum with all of the exhibitionists
Tuvan people are definetly Mongolian descendants.Tuvans from mongolian tribe uriankhai.They played major role in conquest of Chingiskhan!Best famous generals of Chingiskhan ,Subedei and Zelme from uriankhai tribe.
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who is talking Tuva is Turkish...??look at his traditioanal cloths...is that Turkish cloths?If you think yes..just fuck off with your turk...thats MONGOLIAN!!!! fuckers..
There needs to be some clarification. Tuvans are not Mongols, they are Turkic. It says the groups called Altai Khairkhan, well if they are Altains then they are neither Tuvan or Mongols, Altaians are Turkic though. Anyway its typical ignorance to refer to all southern Siberians as Mongols since its a multi ethnic region. Do a search on Tuvans, Altaians, Khakas, Shors, etc. if you want to know more, they all have their own languages and its wrong to lump them all together.
Minii Mongol ah duu nar mini yagaad gadaa gudamjind suugaad duulj hogjimdoj baigaan boldoo, setgel mini ovdoj baina. Ta nar uneheer avyastai, tengerlig Mongoliin ur sad shuu. Sain saihniig husiye. Altain udmiin ohinoos ni bichlee.
its not begging, i see nothing wrong with what they are doing, if people enjoy their music they can leave money if they want... the people there are lucky that they dont have to pay to see this
Anybody else that is trying to learn Tuvan Throat Singing? There is a crash course available on the net. Available as a link at Wikipedia's page on Throat Singing.
Don't worry. Even though I know about this crash course it would be better if I had a teacher instead since I can't seem to find the time to practise. :( I only know one guy in Sweden who is moderately known for throat singing.
This is great. I've been advised by my Mongol language teacher to find some Mongol music, so this is rather special. The word I've learnt for overtone singing is "khoomii" - the two "o"s should have umlauts in standard transliteration - but as with all Mongol words, there will be at least on synonym. Thanks for sharing, jermgardner.
oh maaaaaaan lucky YOU !!! yea thats the thing ! oh man thanks ! i remember this since i saw it on TV back in late 80's age 7, and didnt know it's name !
i didnt mean what ever they use, these guys dont got the thingy im asking about, it's a smal thingy held in mouth and the springs are moved with fingers while the instrument in the mouth. yea i know here it's their throat singing very nice, i got few throat singing songs [: very trancy.
hey any 1 knows the iunstrument witch they hold in their mouth and it's like metal strings springing little thingy and make a buzing sound bzzzz...bzz.bzbzzzzb...zzz got any clue of it's name ?
i know that the buzzz sound is their throats. not the insruments. i think the instument was called the 'horse head instrument'.. i think? it resembles the sound of a string instument. the melody of the horse head instument is supposed to remind you of a horse galloping. it DOES sound like it.
You're exactly right. And the "buzz sound" is "throat singing" (also known as "overtone singing", and there are various names in Mongolian for each style of it). To give a quick explanation for what you are hearing, a resonance chamber is formed by positioning the tongue and mouth just right, a root note is vocalised, and changing the shape of the lips and slightly changing the shape of the mouth will make other notes audible overtop of the root note...
...If anyone is familiar with how the notes work on a brass instrument, the overtones are formed in a similar manner; the first overtone jump may be half of an octave, but as you go higher up, the notes are closer together. i.e., C-G-C-E-G-Bb-C-D-E-F-G, etc.
in English it's called either a "trump" or a "Jew's harp" (no-one knows why, it's not a traditional jewish instrument). I don't know about Mongolian, but I know in Tuva its called a khomuz.
I think this song is called Gooj Nanaa
bluntobjct 2 months ago
I was there, :) I bought their cd.
bluntobjct 2 months ago
I wouldn't be able to resist. If it sounds like a fiddle, I have to flatfoot. I don't care if I'm in a boat- I'm gonna flatfoot! Didn't anyone dance??
BisonTurdjoy 10 months ago
interesting sounds
soloscriptura1 1 year ago
I was in Paris that summer and i heard them and discovered tuvan throatsinging
you cannot imagine what it means to me to have found this video of the exact event...
andarinneo 1 year ago
Wow, what a great memory. So cool that you took this video. I saw them here, just a few days later....It was outside the Georges Pompidou. I love this music.
laurabenge 1 year ago
they are so generous th share their music with the world .. Lord knows we need it ...
tanushinki 2 years ago 3
i saw this when i was in paris!!!! wonderful sound
sfunfens 2 years ago
So did I!
It's just incredible hearing them perform that live on the street.
I even took a look from behind to see if there was some kind of hidden speaker.. Couldn't believe they were singing that.
D0NGI0VANNl 1 year ago 2
I can see how this much older form of music has influenced other styles as well. I can even hear "bluegrass" in it. Cool stuff.
marlinus64 2 years ago 2
This guys really rock, their singers are amazing. This is really expertly played traditional mongolian music !
NicoSensei 2 years ago
music of theTuric people... (Mongolians-Turks)
afsarturk 2 years ago
y street perform at france , sad. Nice sing.
XiaDynasty 2 years ago
great!
o0monox0o 2 years ago
I would like to over-tone the blond at 2:12
samdon815 2 years ago
lol or some tuvan style
matthewdrinkwater 2 years ago
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the Mongolian goats taught them!
FungoBoy 2 years ago
actually this may not be so far from the truth! This type of singing is often used to soothe upset animals, especially when a mother rejects it's young. While the short statement by fungo sounds bigoted, if you asked a Tuvan, they may actually tell you this same thing!
ThelemicPotter 2 years ago
Thats outside the Pompidu center in Paris!
I was there 3years ago!!!
These dudes are AWESOME!!!
Aleskandari 2 years ago
Lol me too XD
Smonjirez 2 years ago
bayar laa !
zaits 2 years ago
I bought their album when I was there :)
jeannetteud 2 years ago
this is awsome
51blue1 2 years ago
I saw these guys when I was at the Centre Pompidou! :D COOL!
And they're really great!
majnjord 2 years ago
You can purchase the CD for these guys on last . fm
pictishsapien 2 years ago
Very similar to the concerts at the Silk Road Festival in Washington, DC, about a dozen yrs ago. Thank you for posting this!
analogyman 2 years ago
I saw a similar group outside the pompidou centre last Summer. Different costumes. But absolutely incredible !
pictishsapien 2 years ago
I can't believe I have found this video !!! I was there on that day in Paris and the recorded sound does not represent truly the amazing tones generated by these artists. Incredible, unimaginable skill. I stood there for over an hour totally transfixed by these incredible and noble men who performed with a massive dignity few people will ever achieve. Listen and be stunned !
henrysbone 2 years ago 3
the should get the nobel prize
orangestoneface 2 years ago 2
I have not seen Mongolian performers like this in NYC, You in Paris are so lucky to have these performers :)
Urdunchimeg 2 years ago
Wow beautiful!
Urdunchimeg 2 years ago
i hope you paid these guys well for this!!!!
kingbleah 2 years ago 6
Great singing! Too bad your microphone didn't pick up any frequency above about 5 kHz (I just put it through a spectrum analyzer).
MichaelKrzyzaniak 3 years ago 5
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haha, the core of pig squeling XD
drummerinSD 3 years ago
for those who don't know, the "pig squeal" is a modern type of overtone singing found in heavy metal music and is in many ways a decedent of the Tuvan style, though much harsher to hear.
ThelemicPotter 2 years ago 3
Piq Squeals...? Overtones? You would say that?
TezzaLarks 2 years ago 2
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samdon815 3 years ago
You've gotta try and watch Miyavi and this video together! Wicked combination xD
DragonWorshipper 3 years ago
Oh Ive seen this band in Paris in front of the library
In 2004 one of my favourite throat singing band
Thanks for sharing
parkourgeneration007 3 years ago
it just makes me smile :)
toamaori 3 years ago
I saw them at the same spot back in 2004. I've been practicing throat singing ever since.
plathhs 3 years ago 2
If Ghengis didn't get sick we would all be singing like this.
samdon815 3 years ago 3
I wouldn't mind.
azzuman 3 years ago 10
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Throatsiinger 3 years ago 2
i saw them 3 years ago at the same place in paris and i really get deaply impressed...especially by the oldest of the musicians who was able only to sing overtones...i thought: where is the voice??? thxs for upload
BounceMC2000 3 years ago
Huh, that stuff is quite catchy =)
TheToiletmonster 3 years ago
Thank you OctoBox for your reply. By the way, I hope nobody thought I was making fun of them in any way; I think they are great and amazingly professional.
I'm still racking my brains to think what song that sounds like to me; Lord Randal perhaps?
When they get to the end I hear the words "gallows tree" so I think it's probably an old English or Scottish song.
Isn't it annoying when you can't remember a song!!! Happens to me a lot.... :-)
banduraplayer 3 years ago
The two songs are quite common mongolian songs with no english words. Mongolian music is uses the pentatonic scale so that's why you're hearing something familiar. It's also folk music which is not usually complicated.
okpantsparty 3 years ago
That song sounds awfully like blue-grass and some of the early English folk songs; just imagine the same thing sung by blue grass singers with fiddle, banjo, etc......even the ending of phrases on the dominant chord...
banduraplayer 3 years ago 3
I was just going to say they sound like Mongolian Hillbillies, smile. I mean they are country folk and this is folk music -- You have to admit that this is far more intricate than some appalachian singing, however -- those hillbillies can play the hell out of the banjo. Put the two together, bring in a digeradoo and you'd be set, smile.
OctoBox 3 years ago 3
they sure rocked once.
Genghis Khan is my idol.
He ravaged the earth and was not afraid of anyone.
He was the chosen one of Tengri, his champion.
I see him as a blessed man, and the Mongols as another blessed people, as we turkic people.
azmhyr 3 years ago
mongols are not turkic.
azmhyr 3 years ago
Correct. Mongols are not Turkic, but Tuvans are. One group which knows this are the Mongols. Ghengis Khan recognized the Tuvans as a seperate race. His general, Subotai (sp?) was a Tuvan.
mrmoofle 3 years ago
hey Tuvans are turkic speaking mongol ethnic group. my ancestors,Subotai and Zelme were mongol-urianhan.. Calling them Tuvans is just stupid! We call them urianhan as one subgroup.
tugsuufre 2 years ago 4
yamar muuhai guilaga chin yum be tenegteed gadaad togloltoor yavlaa geed ingeed gudamjind suudag bol hetsuu l yum bna daa tee zaluusaa ingej tenegtehee bolitsgooyo
uchka4 3 years ago
We have Altain mountains in Mongolia too
Agaa71 3 years ago
They are not Tuvans!They are mongols
Agaa71 3 years ago
Altai is a part of Russia right? So, how is that mongolia?
DragonWorshipper 3 years ago
It was actually invaded. People are still the same.
ancalimonungol 3 years ago
What struck me as fascinating is how the low-pitched kargyra(?) overtone singing in this tune sounded very similar to the sound a jaw-harp (aka jews harp or juice harp) makes and the high-pitched sygyt(?) overtone singing sounded very reminiscent of a penny whistle (aka tin whistle, Irish whistle and Celtic whistle) or other such similar-pitch wind instruments. This makes me wonder if this ancient art did not then inspire those other instruments into existance....
TheBackgroundNoise 3 years ago
I was there! and bought their cd, this song is on it.
they're freakin awesome
bluntobjct 3 years ago
lol i was there as well, its crazy that you come across this stuff
mononokifool 3 years ago
yeah it is. we were lucky to be able to witnis someting like this
bluntobjct 3 years ago
exstreamly grateful that i was able to tour Europe and to see stuff like this. I could have really spent all day outside of the museum with all of the exhibitionists
mononokifool 3 years ago
Wow! Beautiful!
foowah7 3 years ago
I saw these guys here!!! it was amazing.
chubsoffire 4 years ago
Tuva people are mongols, inner mongolians are mongols, we are all mongols.
jckzil130 4 years ago
Does it matter to say Tuvan people are Mongols or Turks? They are Altaic and we are all of the same family. Altai!
bilinmeyen05 4 years ago 2
They are Turk,check vikipedi or another books,they are talking Tuva,Turkish.
temuchin76 3 years ago 2
Great performance, if you close your eyes, you can see the endless Mongolian lands.
Daikini0 4 years ago
But Tuvan people, are they also of Mongolian descent?
Chichiri520 4 years ago 2
Tuva is a russian republic at the left side of mongolia but a lot of tuvans live in the mongolian region & vice versa according to wikipedia.
terminaal 4 years ago
Tuvans are Turkic people but their culture is Mongolian.
goodbelle 4 years ago
watch?v=ZPEZSKNI9Hs
Turkmen26 4 years ago
Tuvan people are definetly Mongolian descendants.Tuvans from mongolian tribe uriankhai.They played major role in conquest of Chingiskhan!Best famous generals of Chingiskhan ,Subedei and Zelme from uriankhai tribe.
mytribeismypride 4 years ago
They are all mongolian people. Not Tuva or Turkish..... pure Mongolian famouse band.
123139 4 years ago
Mongolians rock!!!
myjuly2004 4 years ago
haha, did you ever look up Mongolian in urban dictionary? They sure rock.
ilirkinja 3 years ago
my goodness! that's awesome! you guys must come play in Singapore!
kynos 4 years ago 2
This is completely amazing, their outfits, the music. It's a musical treasure.
BobFuzz 4 years ago 17
Good stuff
ToniEvora 4 years ago
Just gorgeous...
thankyou so much!
heroness 4 years ago
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who is talking Tuva is Turkish...??look at his traditioanal cloths...is that Turkish cloths?If you think yes..just fuck off with your turk...thats MONGOLIAN!!!! fuckers..
galbadrakh0880 4 years ago
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KgTUrk...are you turkish...if yes fuck off with your TURK...fucking poor guy..actually who are you?!you just same with your fucking oldest MOM!!!!lol
galbadrakh0880 4 years ago
calm down bro.turks and mongols are brothers.both of them are altaic lineage,like japanese and native americans
daturkishulan 4 years ago 3
I love this performance in particular because it sounds so joyous. It seems that a lot of other pieces are melancholic.
Aarsyor 4 years ago 4
Its like saying German singing by the Spice girls or French singing by Bjork. i think u get my point haha.
kgTurk 4 years ago
There needs to be some clarification. Tuvans are not Mongols, they are Turkic. It says the groups called Altai Khairkhan, well if they are Altains then they are neither Tuvan or Mongols, Altaians are Turkic though. Anyway its typical ignorance to refer to all southern Siberians as Mongols since its a multi ethnic region. Do a search on Tuvans, Altaians, Khakas, Shors, etc. if you want to know more, they all have their own languages and its wrong to lump them all together.
kgTurk 4 years ago
Minii Mongol ah duu nar mini yagaad gadaa gudamjind suugaad duulj hogjimdoj baigaan boldoo, setgel mini ovdoj baina. Ta nar uneheer avyastai, tengerlig Mongoliin ur sad shuu. Sain saihniig husiye. Altain udmiin ohinoos ni bichlee.
suvdaa1008 4 years ago
amazing!!!
myjuly2004 4 years ago
their skills are treasure of the whole world! why did they have to beg? pathetic
joomarsh 4 years ago
its not begging, i see nothing wrong with what they are doing, if people enjoy their music they can leave money if they want... the people there are lucky that they dont have to pay to see this
butterslide 4 years ago 2
who is living in tuva u idiot ? Shamans who are shamans ??? Believers of old turkic Religion!
Russia go back to europe
ruladrise 4 years ago
tuva is not türc, tuva is a country from the russia federation
Batmaaan 4 years ago
Tuva is Türk.
malperk 4 years ago
great performance! I wish some of them came to our little country!
DragonWorshipper 4 years ago
i saw them too :p
dhaeze 4 years ago
Anybody else that is trying to learn Tuvan Throat Singing? There is a crash course available on the net. Available as a link at Wikipedia's page on Throat Singing.
DonClaude 4 years ago
There is? No need for... only the really sad people have to take a course :P Everybody can learn themselves in a few months ;)
DragonWorshipper 4 years ago
Oh, that's right! Sorry, I forgot about that. :)
DonClaude 3 years ago
wow, i wasnt very nice at that time :P
DragonWorshipper 3 years ago
Don't worry. Even though I know about this crash course it would be better if I had a teacher instead since I can't seem to find the time to practise. :( I only know one guy in Sweden who is moderately known for throat singing.
DonClaude 3 years ago
why not
Qudghu5888 3 years ago
¡Qué capos estos tipos! ¡Aguante Mongolia, carajo!
tindione 4 years ago
This is great. I've been advised by my Mongol language teacher to find some Mongol music, so this is rather special. The word I've learnt for overtone singing is "khoomii" - the two "o"s should have umlauts in standard transliteration - but as with all Mongol words, there will be at least on synonym. Thanks for sharing, jermgardner.
blackjamm 5 years ago
to scriewy
the buzz sound is made by aman khuur.
you can listen to it if you search 'botgon duu'
balerd 5 years ago
Тувицы жгут! :D
NEUTRiM 5 years ago
oh maaaaaaan lucky YOU !!! yea thats the thing ! oh man thanks ! i remember this since i saw it on TV back in late 80's age 7, and didnt know it's name !
scriewy 5 years ago
i didnt mean what ever they use, these guys dont got the thingy im asking about, it's a smal thingy held in mouth and the springs are moved with fingers while the instrument in the mouth. yea i know here it's their throat singing very nice, i got few throat singing songs [: very trancy.
scriewy 5 years ago
i think the instrument you refer to is called a jaw's harp or sometime a jew's harp, i've got one, they're great instruments
petermendum 5 years ago
Fantastic!!! my mongolian heritage!!!
bulbous915 5 years ago
hey any 1 knows the iunstrument witch they hold in their mouth and it's like metal strings springing little thingy and make a buzing sound bzzzz...bzz.bzbzzzzb...zzz got any clue of it's name ?
scriewy 5 years ago
i know that the buzzz sound is their throats. not the insruments. i think the instument was called the 'horse head instrument'.. i think? it resembles the sound of a string instument. the melody of the horse head instument is supposed to remind you of a horse galloping. it DOES sound like it.
bulbous915 5 years ago
You're exactly right. And the "buzz sound" is "throat singing" (also known as "overtone singing", and there are various names in Mongolian for each style of it). To give a quick explanation for what you are hearing, a resonance chamber is formed by positioning the tongue and mouth just right, a root note is vocalised, and changing the shape of the lips and slightly changing the shape of the mouth will make other notes audible overtop of the root note...
cpjcjhsh 5 years ago
...If anyone is familiar with how the notes work on a brass instrument, the overtones are formed in a similar manner; the first overtone jump may be half of an octave, but as you go higher up, the notes are closer together. i.e., C-G-C-E-G-Bb-C-D-E-F-G, etc.
cpjcjhsh 5 years ago
your description sounds a bit like a jewish harp. I dont think it is but its an interesting instrument anyway
moonpieaidan 5 years ago
its not khomuz its khargyraa
jingwei111 5 years ago
in English it's called either a "trump" or a "Jew's harp" (no-one knows why, it's not a traditional jewish instrument). I don't know about Mongolian, but I know in Tuva its called a khomuz.
tarhun 5 years ago
Beautiful !
gccampello 5 years ago