Hongkong is a friendly democratic place, there is no space for pushy aggressive Hans from Mainland China here. Beijing attitudes toward other Asian countries have made Chinese in general look ugly but we are Cantonese and don't want any part of it. Free Hongkong, Hongkong democracy. peace for Asia.
Damn straight! The people of Hong Kong are clear on what they want out their government.... a government of their choosing and not some bullshitter picked by Beijing.
Now, I don't know if Donald Tsang is or isn't, but I don't think anybody here in this video gives a shit.
The basis of democracy is to allow the airing of views from all sides to arrive at an acceptable compromise for the greater good of a harmonious and fair society. I was there to support direct elections in HK and more importantly to denounce the imprisonment of human rights activists in China which is happening too often.
@joekhcheng Why did you not stand out to fight for direct elections during the British rule, before it was decided that HK would be handed back to China ?
HK was ceded to the British by the unequal Treaty of Nanking in 1840. In my teenage days to talk about politics was forbidden in HK. In my university days in 1971, i was involved in the first generation student movement and our organisation succeeded in getting the government to accept Chinese as an official language. I am afraid that was the best HK citizens were allowed to do. In 1997 China promised us election of the chief executive. That is why we demonstrate.
My question was why those who fought for democracy now did not do so before 1983. Some of them were British civil servants. Now, they talk about democracy, what was their real agenda ? Are they being used by foreign powers to create a base in Hong Kong to fight to look after foreign business interest and to fight against Beijing ? They wanted to create a pro-US regime like in Georgia, Poland, E Europe, a regime that obeys Washington ? Beware the gweilos.
HK was a colony under British rule. This is a painful part of history. The only way to change that was by violent revolution which was not warranted by the circumstances. Nor was this the general consensus of the HK citizens. After 1997, HK had regained national sovereignty and promised the election of its chief executive and legislature. But this is not happening. One must not speculate on others' motive unless supported by evidence. I'm proud to be a free Chinese but not a communist.
@joekhcheng Neither did these activists carried out any large scale peaceful demonstrations under the British, like they do now under Beijing ? Is Beijing too soft than London ? Neither did western media complain abt lack of democracy under the Brits. This is already evidence to me. Its like someone who has lived w/o air con for a large part of his life all of a sudden said he could not live w/o it. U should be careful of the motive of others.
I hope you were old enough on 4/6/1989 when the tanks of the People's Liberation Army rolled over demonstrating students and workers killing an unknown number of them in Tiananmen Square. Would you call this soft ? It was clearly set as an example for anti-communist demonstrators. Such atrocity is autocratic single party rule run wild. It is for this reason that my family emigrated to Australia which we didn't like. Freedom is like air as you say. How can one live without it ?
Please don't mix up a party or a government with the rich tradition of the the noble Chinese race. We have over 5,000 years of culture. A government comes and goes. This is the law of nature which works in constant cycles as the great I-Ching ( Book of Changes ) predicts. A race and culture endures the test of time and is at peace with nature. Any responsible adult can exercise his own judgment as to whether or not a government respects basic human rights. i have exercised mine.
@joekhcheng U are not answering my question. In any case, I certainly hope u exercise ur good judgment and not repeat the mistakes the Chinese made in 19th and early 20th century where the in-fighting only opened the door to foreign manipulation and outright seizure of territories.
@joekhcheng Hi, just be aware that some people want the Chinese to fight among themselves. Of course, they won't say that. The Taiping Rebellion and 1911 revolution only weakened China to the advantage of foreign powers like Britain and Russia.Are u aware of the color revolutions going on in EEurope and the former Soviet republics and who are the ones behind it. Be careful not to be used by others.
Hmm...sounds tough! I've never heard an angry Chinese person...no idea what they were saying, I just know it deals with democracy (yeah like the title says). Peace and harmony for the world.
If you listen carefully right at the beginning of the video you can hear the shouting of a slogan in English which said :- " Universal sufferage now ! " Many HK citzens are demanding one person one vote direct election of the legislature and chief executive in HK Special Administrative Region of China. For further details please refer to the description box of the video. Thank you for watching my videos.
se la cina diventa democratica allora diventa una potenza morale per il mondo perchè la sua cultura millenaria è un patrimonio che farebbe da scuola a tutti
The philosopher Voltaire said this about the democratic principle : - " I totally disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it ! " Therefore, I must let you say it. Democracy is certainly majority rule but the basic human right of freedom of expression must be respected. Calling people names does not make one's argument more convincing. A happy New Year to you !
Out of the population of HK. Just a small group of ignorant, naive, gullible low lives showing up like gangsters to disturb law and order. They have no ideas what is Democracy !! MAJORITY RULE, my friends, so the Silent Majority did not show up, so you better SHUT UP !!
Hongkong is a friendly democratic place, there is no space for pushy aggressive Hans from Mainland China here. Beijing attitudes toward other Asian countries have made Chinese in general look ugly but we are Cantonese and don't want any part of it. Free Hongkong, Hongkong democracy. peace for Asia.
cantonesenoodles 1 year ago
Damn straight! The people of Hong Kong are clear on what they want out their government.... a government of their choosing and not some bullshitter picked by Beijing.
Now, I don't know if Donald Tsang is or isn't, but I don't think anybody here in this video gives a shit.
Thanks for posting.
krislyttle 1 year ago
The basis of democracy is to allow the airing of views from all sides to arrive at an acceptable compromise for the greater good of a harmonious and fair society. I was there to support direct elections in HK and more importantly to denounce the imprisonment of human rights activists in China which is happening too often.
Thank you, Krislyttle for watching my videos.
JKHC ( 24/3/10 )
joekhcheng 1 year ago
@joekhcheng Why did you not stand out to fight for direct elections during the British rule, before it was decided that HK would be handed back to China ?
awc321 11 months ago
@awc321
HK was ceded to the British by the unequal Treaty of Nanking in 1840. In my teenage days to talk about politics was forbidden in HK. In my university days in 1971, i was involved in the first generation student movement and our organisation succeeded in getting the government to accept Chinese as an official language. I am afraid that was the best HK citizens were allowed to do. In 1997 China promised us election of the chief executive. That is why we demonstrate.
JKHC 27/3/11
joekhcheng 11 months ago
@joekhcheng
My question was why those who fought for democracy now did not do so before 1983. Some of them were British civil servants. Now, they talk about democracy, what was their real agenda ? Are they being used by foreign powers to create a base in Hong Kong to fight to look after foreign business interest and to fight against Beijing ? They wanted to create a pro-US regime like in Georgia, Poland, E Europe, a regime that obeys Washington ? Beware the gweilos.
awc321 10 months ago
@awc321
HK was a colony under British rule. This is a painful part of history. The only way to change that was by violent revolution which was not warranted by the circumstances. Nor was this the general consensus of the HK citizens. After 1997, HK had regained national sovereignty and promised the election of its chief executive and legislature. But this is not happening. One must not speculate on others' motive unless supported by evidence. I'm proud to be a free Chinese but not a communist.
joekhcheng 10 months ago
@joekhcheng Neither did these activists carried out any large scale peaceful demonstrations under the British, like they do now under Beijing ? Is Beijing too soft than London ? Neither did western media complain abt lack of democracy under the Brits. This is already evidence to me. Its like someone who has lived w/o air con for a large part of his life all of a sudden said he could not live w/o it. U should be careful of the motive of others.
awc321 10 months ago
@awc321
I hope you were old enough on 4/6/1989 when the tanks of the People's Liberation Army rolled over demonstrating students and workers killing an unknown number of them in Tiananmen Square. Would you call this soft ? It was clearly set as an example for anti-communist demonstrators. Such atrocity is autocratic single party rule run wild. It is for this reason that my family emigrated to Australia which we didn't like. Freedom is like air as you say. How can one live without it ?
joekhcheng 10 months ago
@awc321
Please don't mix up a party or a government with the rich tradition of the the noble Chinese race. We have over 5,000 years of culture. A government comes and goes. This is the law of nature which works in constant cycles as the great I-Ching ( Book of Changes ) predicts. A race and culture endures the test of time and is at peace with nature. Any responsible adult can exercise his own judgment as to whether or not a government respects basic human rights. i have exercised mine.
joekhcheng 10 months ago
@joekhcheng U are not answering my question. In any case, I certainly hope u exercise ur good judgment and not repeat the mistakes the Chinese made in 19th and early 20th century where the in-fighting only opened the door to foreign manipulation and outright seizure of territories.
awc321 10 months ago
@joekhcheng Hi, just be aware that some people want the Chinese to fight among themselves. Of course, they won't say that. The Taiping Rebellion and 1911 revolution only weakened China to the advantage of foreign powers like Britain and Russia.Are u aware of the color revolutions going on in EEurope and the former Soviet republics and who are the ones behind it. Be careful not to be used by others.
awc321 10 months ago
Hmm...sounds tough! I've never heard an angry Chinese person...no idea what they were saying, I just know it deals with democracy (yeah like the title says). Peace and harmony for the world.
zeus9002 2 years ago
Dear Zeus9002,
If you listen carefully right at the beginning of the video you can hear the shouting of a slogan in English which said :- " Universal sufferage now ! " Many HK citzens are demanding one person one vote direct election of the legislature and chief executive in HK Special Administrative Region of China. For further details please refer to the description box of the video. Thank you for watching my videos.
JKHC ( 16/1/10 )
joekhcheng 2 years ago
Thank you and it's always a pleasrue to watch your vids. They feature some very pretty places!
zeus9002 2 years ago
se la cina diventa democratica allora diventa una potenza morale per il mondo perchè la sua cultura millenaria è un patrimonio che farebbe da scuola a tutti
pollottoliere 2 years ago
The philosopher Voltaire said this about the democratic principle : - " I totally disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it ! " Therefore, I must let you say it. Democracy is certainly majority rule but the basic human right of freedom of expression must be respected. Calling people names does not make one's argument more convincing. A happy New Year to you !
JKHC ( 7/1/10 )
joekhcheng 2 years ago
Out of the population of HK. Just a small group of ignorant, naive, gullible low lives showing up like gangsters to disturb law and order. They have no ideas what is Democracy !! MAJORITY RULE, my friends, so the Silent Majority did not show up, so you better SHUT UP !!
hanmagic 2 years ago