Norway Tragedy could have been far less extreme!

[SChoolsFaOl]

Do you think kids at school should carry guns too?

[edc357ian]

Thank you brother! I am so glad to have found your channel. Keep up the good work!

[Daffmeister187]

I'm kinda on the fence as far as deciding whether to agree or not so I need one thing clarified.

Are you suggesting the teenagers that were the attendees should have carried firearms or are you suggesting there be officers or some kinda security that has firearms at such events as they make good targets for people like the perpetrator?

I live in Norway myself and we're far down on the statistics concerning murders with firearms and allowing the public to carry weapons would change just that.

[PatriotsRepublic]

@Daffmeister187 Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland have had a unique set of circumstances that have allowed them to ignore economic truisms and hide them behind this false wall of unsustainable socialism. They exist because the market that supports them does not exist in their countries. They've had an almost utopian existence because they can pretend their systems work while their businesses sell products into far freer markets than exist in their own borders. When that ends.. chaos and death.

[PatriotsRepublic]

@Daffmeister187 If you had at least allowed adults to conceal carry, or open carry for that matter, much of the slaughter could have been averted. Mad men will always pop up where you least expect it... and the thin veneer of civilization that masks the truth about people only exists in Norway because you can pay for it. What happens when the economies that are really supporting your socialism collapse? Do you think that once all the social programs go away in Norway that life will be idyllic?

[Daffmeister187]

@PatriotsRepublic Sure when the social fabric deteriorates it's every man for himself and if you don't have a gun then you're basically dead meat.

Though this is not the case, what is, is that a man went on a single rampage and killed more people on a killing spree than ever before and the odds of that happening again anytime soon are rather low.

So yes it would have helped in that situation but in many many other situations the access to a firearm could lead to a bigger tragedy than necessary.

[Daffmeister187]

@PatriotsRepublic The main point I'm trying to make is that I don't think most people are responsible enough to carry a firearm and the responsibility that comes with it thus they shouldn't regardless of the economic system or the stability of the social structure.

I do think everyone should be allowed to have them in their homes from protection though but out in public I'd rather see people who are trained to use them (police and security for instance) wield that responsibility and power.

[nate7181]

When I was going through my Carry class, I think the sheriff that was leading the class said that there were currently about 80,000 carry permit holders in Minnesota. Carry permit holder involved shootings were 2, both were justified homicides. This idea that if you let people legally carry guns is going to cause a bloodbath is just so far from the truth.

[marvintheboon]

good presentation. I see your comments are trying to rationalize the govt push and need for public opinion by using the ATF scandal to persuade the sheeple that the gun control is necessary. There is no need to rationalize, the evil men do is disrupted when their quarry can protect itself, its just that simple, to them we are going to get in the way, and they can't have us armed.

Our youth needs constant history lessons to remind them of the evil deeds that have actually already been recorded.

[Rosarywins]

Norway just got unsafe. That too without Guns. Cheers.

[AR15Truther2]

its a tricky topic, i know i want to be armed, but as far as saftey goes, alot dependes on other factors like wealth, morality and culture, this is one reason the elite want and have changed the U.S. for an order out of chaos disarment, if enough chaos can be caused, rights can be removed and tyranny won't be far behind

[Fockersnextdoor]

I hope no one gets shot, But I was born in the USA so my birth-right to own a gun will never be up for a vote by any government.My children will pass this to thier grand-children and on and on.The U.N. and mass murderers hate it when I say this.

[BrownSugar2050]

Norway is still a safer country compared to a country like Iraq or Afghanistan where everyone has a gun.

You right wing white extremists who are against gun control should look at at the statistics about how safe Norway really is.

[CombateArmsOndraya]

@BrownSugar2050 I don't think he's a right wing white extremists.

[BrownSugar2050]

@CombateArmsOndraya

The killer in Norway shared many of the same views as the anti-immigrant , anti-Muslim wing of the Republican / Tea Party. Fox News and Talk Radio promote the same xenophobic views as this guy.

[F250badgirl]

@BrownSugar2050

....you sound like a very ignorant and hateful person....a racist least of all.... 

[CombateArmsOndraya]

@BrownSugar2050 By that logic I'm a right white wing extremest lol Fox news isn't like "OMG someone that's not from Europe >:/ *hate* *hate* ". Last I seen Fox could love enough Obama.

[TheAmazingJimmy]

@BrownSugar2050 Really? Xenophobic? I'm pretty sure Patriot'sRepublic neither hates, nor is afraid of foreigners. I'm pretty sure he's also not "anti-immigration" but rather "anti-illegal alien", illegal aliens pay no tax and are illegally hired off the record for far less than minimum wage. I also don't believe I've ever heard him say anything "antimuslim" either. PatriotsRepublic from what I've seen and heard from him is a peace loving, freedom loving individual.

[PatriotsRepublic]

@BrownSugar2050 You have a serious flaw in your argument.... because unlike Afghanistan and Iraq.... there isn't a current and ongoing war in Norway. Statistics mean nothing when they are using flawed data.

[BrownSugar2050]

@PatriotsRepublic

The murder rate in Norway is like 25 people per year for a country of 5 million people.

Now compare this to any place that has no gun laws. Nigeria, Mexico, Detroit

You right-wing white extremists won't be able to harm innocent people with butter knife. We need to have strict Gun-control to keep society at peace. You want to live in the lawless Wild West.

[HouseOldSkoolRaver]

The pro gun crowd are correct on this no doubt about it. Someone could of shot him and saved about 60 lives.

[mutexnet]

Good vid. There are 90+ killed in Chicago every summer as a matter of course. And in the bankrupt corrupt far left democratic liberal Utopia of Illinois, we are the only state remaining that prevents conceal and carry. Why you ask? The corrupt democrats say there will be shootings. Oh, and Illinois has the strictest gun laws in the country but for some reason the gang bangers get and use guns indiscriminately daily.

[RoundMoundMike]

@mutexnet @mutexnet its just like the drug laws, they get your drugs and guns for you, or you cant have them.

robert taylor homes used to have anti aircraft guns on the roof, the gangs and theiving politicians all got their start in Chicago. its a haven for mischief, dimented dilusional, low level criminals who have fantasies of being as big as NY. The rotten apple will always be the crownjewel of disease and sick society, both these cities need to be nuked.