10mm rocks!!! For those of you who find a Glock 10mm a little light weight try a Colt Delta Elite 10mm. It's a heavier gun and thus recoil is a little less than with the Glock. I have a Colt Delta Elite 10mm and abosolutely love it. I don't reload so it's sort of expensive for me to shoot it a lot but love 10mm's.
yeah especially with a 10mm, finally got to shoot my buddies 10mm yesterday. that thing is such a beast. i believe the 10mm was designed for the fbi or something like that but they found the recoil and over penetration wasnt practical so they shortened the cartridge and came up with .40 s&w i think the 10mm would be a good wilderness defense gun if you wanted a auto instead of a revolver.
all these kids never felt the balls of a 10mm, They would flinch at the recoil because its much worse than an xbox rumble pack controller and presumably miss the milk jug at 15 feet.
@joeratti You've never shot a gun with combat sights. This isn't COD man. This is real, get out there with your G20 and show us what you have. Recoil, Trigger pull, flinch...You probably haven't even fired a real gun.
@japimportssuck exactly, that's how I thought before firing a gun, my first time shooting a 12 ga with no choke and birdshot loads, I missed a milk jug, because I thought it would be whimpy in kick, and then it got me by surprise, now I treat every gun as it it will kick, that way, light loads are nothing, and heavy loads, I can stay on target with.
Lol the 10mm isn't really designed for a personal defense weapon. It penetrates to much! Which is why the 40 S&W was born. 10mm is more so used for hunting. You don't want to use a handgun that penetrates that far, and worry about other outcomes to where the bullet leads to.
@MrJstub Actually from my knowledge, the 40 S&W was developed following the FBI tests of the 10mm. In which agents, mainly the female agents could not handle the 10mm effectively.
@w3ath3rby you are retarded! Tell me why that round is a "personal defense round" in your theory. That caliber was not designed for home defense. If you want a home defense gun get a shotgun. Go search up some ballistic tests, and you will see WHY that is not considered a gun you would use in a house hold defense situation. It's basically a magnum 40sw. If you want a magnum then get a 44
Well if Obama wore a "Glock" sweat shirt it might remind the people of the inner city not to riot when he fails to get the nomination in 2012. As for Biden, it would just make everybody chuckle a bit.
@faffaflunkie He's not going to fail, osama died while he is in presidency, approval ratings shot up, and their isn't any feasible republican candidates... their all fucking crazy.
@playherone Hey stupid, I made that comment almost a year ago. If Obama DOESN'T get the nomination-I look like a genius. You on the other hand will always be somebody's bitch.
Plus many of the Glock accessories stores sell these types of items however I find Lenny McGill (glockstore) cheesy and some of his products are highly tacky and take away from the beauty of the Glock. Plus I am still awaiting a sweatshirt I bought from them like a month ago.
Why? Because they haven't taken away our guns and in fact expanded our rights to allow us to carry in national parks? Or because some crazy right wing nuts who probably sold ammo for a living, who couldn't stand the fact Obama had darker skin, made up ridiculous claims that Obama was going to take away our guns and ammo to drive the prices up so it now costs more to shoot,. Obama isn't great but because he is basically an extension of Bush and all the previous idiots before that.
.50 action express is def not a military caliber. Some militaries actually use the Magnum Research Jericho in .41AE and .45 but never the .50. Sry man. its impractical and bulky and the world has moved past low capacity autopistols, we have the glock and beretta and S n' W that can hold near to 20 rounds now. Plus if youre familiar with the hague convention which Im not sure if israel follows but it statutes that 9x19, 9x17 must be used in a sidearm, hence our mistake of using the M9 or px4storm
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I know people like you; the old farts at almost every gun store who seem to hate everyone, and especially younger people who come in. You have this "you're not worthy" attitude and treat people like they are retards.
@trapstar918420 ive been to those gun stores and have dealt with the old farts too..they judge a book by it cover but when i say "im in the market for that desert eagle you have here" and then proceed to flash a huge wad of cash they DUMMY up really quick... i fuck with them alot... and laugh about it... alot of gun stores have lost a lot business because they were not polite to me... i have close to ten grand worth of firearms.
I don't see the point in making prey suffer,so I choose a caliber that is capable of a quick human kill and take my time to get the right shot. If I don't feel that I can get a quick kill shot in a safe direction I don't take the shot. I can see where the .22lr comes in handy for a trapper that wants to keep the pelt or for small game.
@500SWMAGOPERATOR Wait, are you hunting people in this scenario? If you are just trying to bash the 10mm cartridge and say that the .500 mag is superior, then that is pretty stupid. If I wanted that much gun powder in brass I would carry a rifle. You only have five shots, and a much lower rate of fire than any semi-auto 10mm. I could shoot 90 rounds of 200gr. hard cast at 1300fps from a G20 in less than a minute. It can hit a target 100y away. It is a near perfect balance of fire/stopping power.
@500SWMAGOPERATOR I agree. However, I think handguns of any size vs. the BIG bears are better suited to back up or self defense. (if you don't have the means to carry a rifle.) A .458 Lott or something similar would be a better choice for a big bear then any handgun. A .500 SW would be my #1 choice if I couldn't carry a rifle and just needed something for self defense. A .44 Mag with the absolute best load available would be the min. for bears, I agree on that!
LoL -- now let's do another where you don't miss a 1Gal bottle from close enough to kick it. LoL ok it wasn't kicking distance but it was way too close to miss.
I love the Glock 20 its the gun that i sleep with but 10mm's are for self defense too expensive so for the range i use .40 S&W it works in the gun to with no problems.
i always cringe when people on you tube fire off a few shots then turn around to the camera and giggle... im waiting for the video of the guy turning around to giggle and then shooting off his own foot or his friend filming himself.
@RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ actually I just remembered the video of the guy giving a lecture on gun safety who accidentally shoots himself in the foot with a glock 17
@RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ - What does turning to giggle have to do with shooting your own foot? If the gun is pointed down range with your finger off the trigger, what is the problem?
There is a fine line between gun safety and safety-nazi.
@trapstar918420 i watch alot of gun videos and again.. i always cringe when people turn around and giggle at the camera with thier finger on the triggger.. thats all im saying. and..i dont need to see anyone shoot themselves.
He shoots himself in the foot, not the head. It was an accident in a class room full of kids and parents. check it out. It's a good gun safety video, what not to do.
@RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ STFU who fuckin cares you dumb fuck im sure they no what they are doing, yes i agree its not safe but its their own life i hope you shoot yourself
@xmanhockey7 was it though? dude looked like a moron one... let off one shot and missed..let of two more and hit targets..then turned around and snickered... i saw no magazine release, no racked back slide... so... again..i can wait till a camera man gets popped...most likely has but didnt live to put it on youtube. most glocks hold 17 rounds for the record.. but whatever.
@RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ Most glocks? are you dumb only the 17 19 and 26 models have 17 rounds, granted the 26 is sub compact u can put a glock 17 mag in the 26, you can buy +2 base plate for the 21 and i think thats 15 rounds, your dumb for saying most glocks hold 17 rounds
@RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ Why would he do that if he has the slightest bit of trigger discipline? Pretty hard to fire a gun when you keep your finger out of the trigger guard.
I don't care when you said it. It's no bad practice at all. There's no rule that says "Always look where the muzzle is pointing." He had the muzzle pointed in a safe direction. That's all that's required. Anyone can look around as much as they want as long as they're not sweeping anybody or anything they're worried about shooting.
@CoChicken1337 also..if you watch the video again you cant really see exactly where he has the muzzle pointed when he turns around,the camera points down and dude, really,whatever you say man,if people like this guy want to practice bad firearm handling and shoot themselves or others then great, ill watch and comment on that video to... i could care less, i was simply stating that "i always cringe when people fire off a few shots and then turn and snicker to the camera" thats just me. move along
(cont) not accomplish much. The full-house Bren Ten should be able to achieve reliable one-shot stops out to at least 50 meters, but pistol actions do not take place at 50 meters. The combat pistol is best employed at distances hardly more than across the room, and the Bren Ten will not do this any better than the venerable 45 ACP, or so it would seem.
I agree and the 10mm can be used against you in court. Even if it isn't based on any fact they will still try to say something like "why didn't you carry friendly bullets like 9, 40 or 45"
Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with the 10mm, I think it's a great round but it's just a risk that could be avoided in court. Where you hit is much more important than how powerfull the round is. You can't assume that your attacker will give up from the pain of a hard hitting round. If I lived in an area with alot of dangerous game though, the 10 would be my first choice, Glock 29 most likely.
@labartic no not like that, some guy was pointing out how some lawyers would use the the fact that a 10mm isn't a "friendly" round compared to the 9mm or .45 acp and nail you on it.
@tacamo21 Someone could make the same argument for the 9mm, since it was the weapon of choice for the Virginia Tech killer and the most popular criminal caliber.
I would counter that the 10mm was created for the FBI, so how evil could it be :)
well you can't go wrong with any of the .40, .45, 10mm's because they are light enough to hold more than just 8 rounds in a mag and are able to aim with them. the .50 ae is not accurate nor is it ment for self def...it's ment for millitary use. but most def stick to any thing bigger than a 9mm and you'll be set for any amount of self defence.
@drstrangeman 50AE was not made for the Israeli military. Please show me a citation or acrticle proving me wrong.
Magnum Research makes the Desert Eagle Pistol. They =CONTRACT= with IMI for the actual manufacturing. They are not made for or by the Israeli Military.
50AE applications are probably the same as 44MAG (the cartidge it is based on). 50AE would just have more power behind it. 44MAG is used for lots of hunting.. not just finishing shots.
There are no "friend;y" rounds. You're obviously one of those ignorant kids who just thinks "bigger is better". Go educate yourself before commenting any further.
@CoChicken1337 I was commenting on how this guy was prosecuted on the fact he used a .44 or something in self defence but since it wasn't the "friendly" .45 or 9mm, the prosecution was saying overkill. And why the hell are you commenting on some thing I commented on like 2 years ago!
That is a myth. Ammo is almost never brought up in court unless it is something outrageous. And the 10mm, although a great cartridge, is not outrageous. Now make your own shotgunshells with exploding inserts that explode inside someone, and it will be brought to the courts attention. Standard manufactured ammo is not a problem in court. Trust me, I know.
@Glockster777 You are so right I know law and you will seldom see a prosecutor or Defense Lawyer go after someone on the grounds that he carried 10mm bc he was looking for trouble. NOT REASONABLE! and if you killed someone truly defending your own life and/or your family you probably wont be charged with a crime and summoned to court
The Bren Ten was a concept of mine, and while I am not ashamed of it, I admit that this concept was not entirely sound. What the Bren Ten pistol achieved over, for example, the 1911, was range. The full-house, 10mm cartridge definitely not the attenuated 10s which are popular now pushed the effective range of the combat sidearm out beyond that which is usually expected. But extending the manageable range of a combat pistol out beyond the ability of the shooter to utilize it does not
10mm vs .45acp . I wouldn't want to get shot by any of them. We were taught It was all about shot placement . Oh, and the FBI dropped the 10mm due to the fact that many female and smaller statured males complained about recoil issues . It made it hard for them to set up their follow up shot(s). So the .40 Small&Weak was born( yeah, I know its common knowlege) . My wife did think the recoil was a little much. Though even she commented that the recoil only felt about the same as a .45 acp.
shooting at a target without a backstop is not safe. There could be kids playing in the woods, or anyone in the tree line even though it may be private property.
How big of a worry of overpenetration is it with anybody out there who use these and similar large bore handguns? I'm sure theres some people who can handle the recoil but I would be worried about drilling a whole through a gangbanger and it hitting an innocent person on it's exit.
I use hollow points to help lessen the penetration some. I have shot a snowman and found a bullet laying on top of the snow not far behind it. I hope I never find out on a person.
The basic advice is to shoot the largest caliber you can accurately. All bullets do damage and it all depends on the type of ammo you're using and shot placement. Does that make it easy for those who aren't clear on this issue?
u guys are idiots about stopping power...anything that causes pain and shock to the body has stopping power...including a knife...i can say this bcuz i got shot with a 9MM hollow point and it sure stopped me! so all you guys STFU a bullet is a bullet and can do the same damage...you guys need to use your stopping power to shut the fuck up
the follow up shot with a 10mm isn't all that much slower compared to a 9mm.... now if you're talking about a 50AE then it may be slow especially how big the gun is too
Anyone that says "stopping power" needs to stop watching movies. Scientifically and in reports from shootings there has been no real evidence of any such thing. Is it velocity, round diameter, weight...we don't know...
As for the ammo debate, 10mm is a very powerful round, .40 S&W on steroids (actually the .40 S&W came after the 10mm). You can't say better though, because that's an opinion. Follow up shots are slower with more recoil. 9mm Glock has 17 rnd capacity. That has to mean something.
The whole concept is debatable, but I'd say "stopping power" would be kinetic energy (measured in footpounds) delivered to the target. Given, follow up shots are slower with more recoil, but the whole idea behind more powerful rounds is to not have to take follow up shots. If you're dealing with multiple targets, you'll still probably save time, because instead of having to pump 3 and 4 rounds into a target before pacifying them, you can knock 'em down in one shot and move on to the next threat.
10 mm VERY powerful? Compared to? 500 S&W? Nope.45acp +P? Nope. 10mm approximates ballistics of the 100 year old 38-40 WCF round-Nothing new under the Sun.Capacity only means something after you have missed as much as the other guys gun's maximum ammo capacity. In other words, YOUR 17 round G17 vs an opponent w/ 10 rounds, YOUR extra capacity won't be a factor until you both have fired & NOT settled the fight w/ 10 rounds. YOUR extra doesn't matter unless you get to use them to make a diff..
The 10mm has better stopping power than the 45 with the penetration of the 357 mag. Its more modern than either, shoots flatter than both and over all is a better round. Sorry jack.
What is stopping power & where can you document that whatever it is, 10mm somehow better at it? That 10mm is modern has absolutely nothing to do with how it performs. (see 38-40 WCF ballistics) Shoots somewhat flatter than std 45 ACP, but at Real World handgun engagement ranges, trajectory matters NOT. As for penetration, Higher velocity and expansion tends to reduce penetration. As I said 45 acp "with the right load" will do anything 10mm will do.If 10mm is better why did FBI drop it... jack?
10mm silvertip HP make a bigger impression against a bowling pin at 50 yards than my .45 with similar rounds does at 10 feet.
Why did the FBI drop it? Ladies and effeminate men with little hands couldn't handle it. Can you? They went to .40 S&W. Why didn't they go to .45 if it is so wonderous?
"A little knowledge is a dangerous thing" Suggest YOU run the #s I said "the right load in 45acp. "Your 10mm 175 grain Win Silvertip is 1141 fps & 506 ft.lbs at 50 yds. Cor Bon 185 grain 45acp +P is 540 ft.lbs at 10 feet. FBI dropped 10mm for field agents. For FBI guys who really have to shoot when it counts.. what does FBI Hostage Rescue Team shoot....jack?
See, people like you cling to one round and think its God's gift to sportsmen. You're claiming the .45 ACP can do anything the 10mm Auto can is like saying "Oh, the .30-06 can do anything the .300 Win Mag can".
Not really, homeslice. Not really. From a pure physics stand point the 10mm is undeniably more powerful than a comparable .45 ACP. Nevertheless, I'd trust both with my life against two-legged vermin. Can we agree on that?
FBI dropped 10mm for numerous reasons;S&W Mod.1006&1076 were too big, heavy, expensive, recoiled excessively& costly to maintain for EVERYBODY. FBI settled on downloaded 10mm and Federal Cartridge & S&W said hey if that's what you want we can give you same performance, more 40 S&W rounds in a smaller package that kicks less and will last more that 5k rounds before something breaks.All the big strong manly men at FBI said "Hey that's a good thing"
Your words"You're claiming the .45 ACP can do anything the 10mm Auto can is like saying "Oh, the .30-06 can do anything the .300 Win Mag can".45acp "with the right load" will accomplish the same task in the Real World not on an Internet ballistics chart. As for your 30-06 comparison- Same .308 180 grn bullet at 2700 fps from 30-06 will do just about anything the SAME bullet at 3000 fps from .300 mag out to 500 yds. Shot past 500 lately? Thanks for making my point- again
I have.. and did. Shot him over bait in Northern British Columbia, he swatted at the impact ran about 80 yds and piled up.. dead. 180 grain Barnes- X bullet at 2780 fps through both shoulders from a Winchester Pre-64 Model 70..... cal. 30-06 Yours?
If shot placement were the same guaruntee any hunting load .300 win mag would have dropped that bear on the spot or damn close to it...no RUNNING for 80 yards before giving up the ghost.
Just imagine for second what would've happened had that bear been 80 yards away from where you took the shot, and suppose he came your direction. Your story is just proof that the .30-06 is just a wee bit on the light side for big N. American game.
@annihilationnegitive I wouldn't recomend the use of a.22 long rifle against an animal as large as a bear. I guess if that is all you have on hand at the time it 'may' work. Most states have a minimum caliber for bear hunting and a .22 long rifle falls well below the guidelines. Personally I wouldn't use any rifle chambered in anything smaller then a .308 or a handgun chambered in anything lsmaller then a .44 magnum.
@500SWMAGOPERATOR thats not the point...i see it went right over your head...did it not?
my point is, that with a well placed shot you can kill anything with a single shot, regardless of the caliber...the use of a caliber such as .500 sw does not increase the one shot drop capability of a well placed shot over any other caliber, it compensates for the users error and inability to get that perfect shot...which in real life is very hard to do.
@bamyfz450 yes, you can...there are two ways to do it...one is much harder than the other...if you can manage to land a round in the eye socket, have it follow the nerve channel into the brain, its done. easier would be to aim for the artery that runs just under the skin behind their front leg...of course you need to have an understanding of its anatomy to do this...bit it is possible.
Nobody is talking about .308, but since you bring it up....
I've handled .40 S&W rounds that do everything a .45 ACP can, and in a more compact round that is just as available. One might say that .40 S&W is to .45 ACP what .308 Win is to the .30-06.
But thats besides the point.
10mm is to .45 ACP what .300 Win Mag is to .30-06. You know perfectly God Damn well that big game hunting takes more than what either .30-06 or .308 can dish out, even in best loads.
I didn't bring up .308 Winchester... dumbass. I identified the bullet diameter for both 30-06 & 300 Win Mag. IS THE SAME .308 DIAMETER. Explain to me how you are gonna guarantee anything that happens after you shoot a Grizz with .300 Win Mag or anything else for that matter. And what caliber/ cartridge is it that has NEVER failed on North American game? 30-06 with the right load will take any game on the planet.Honestly, your ignorance is astounding..
My wife is fine.. she is looking over my shoulder at the laptop screen and laughing her ass off..at you! little one.. I am not the guy who has done - what's the score now..? 21 posts in 90 minutes!? You go boyeee!!
dumbhello7- Sure jump right in sport! And how exactly do "guarentee" any thing with any game animal? Did you get a signed contract from the bear or rhino stating " I will fall over and die on the spot from 300 RUM, but stipulate I will never die from the same bullet when fired from a 30-06, impacting my hide at 300 fps less" Got one of those contracts? The ONLY guarantee, is that there are NO guarantees
Lol your more of a dumb ass than I figured you for it's not the feet per second that matters it's foot pounds of energy that the round hits the target with. Why don't you do yourself a favor go buy a reloading book or two and do some reading to educate yourself and quit listening to every tom, dick, and harry says so you'll quit talking with such ignorance. Oh and I didnt say that my RUM will stop a rhino if I wanted to do that I'd go get a .416 Rigby or a .416 Remington magnum.
Shooting a water jug with a 10mm? I am sure there is something much more entertaining to do with such a beast.
pjicleanair420 2 months ago
10mm rocks!!! For those of you who find a Glock 10mm a little light weight try a Colt Delta Elite 10mm. It's a heavier gun and thus recoil is a little less than with the Glock. I have a Colt Delta Elite 10mm and abosolutely love it. I don't reload so it's sort of expensive for me to shoot it a lot but love 10mm's.
tomrum42 3 months ago
Why is it always a thin plastic jug? How about a paint can????
4wheelerDJ 5 months ago
It´d been more interesting if you showed a 9mm the 3rd time for comparison
Avantgardist 5 months ago
@Avantgardist .....i guess for kids to see. big difference
playherone 5 months ago
now show us when a glock explodes and they settle out of court....
blueshiftchess 5 months ago
I wish 10mm was less expensive.
msalak87 5 months ago
yeah especially with a 10mm, finally got to shoot my buddies 10mm yesterday. that thing is such a beast. i believe the 10mm was designed for the fbi or something like that but they found the recoil and over penetration wasnt practical so they shortened the cartridge and came up with .40 s&w i think the 10mm would be a good wilderness defense gun if you wanted a auto instead of a revolver.
rcroach23 5 months ago
@rcroach23 yes the fbi wanted something bigger than a 9 after it's ineffectiveness on two vietnam vet bank robbers
shinybald36 4 months ago
Did you have to wear the shirt?
VaMoneyCow 7 months ago
and by the way, a milk jug is much bigger than a man size target... He was a dead man on the first shot! YEah
japimportssuck 8 months ago
RON PAUL
TJstrong11 8 months ago 2
all these kids never felt the balls of a 10mm, They would flinch at the recoil because its much worse than an xbox rumble pack controller and presumably miss the milk jug at 15 feet.
japimportssuck 8 months ago
@japimportssuck dude missing something from 15 feet is freakin tough. you just suck
joeratti 8 months ago
@joeratti You've never shot a gun with combat sights. This isn't COD man. This is real, get out there with your G20 and show us what you have. Recoil, Trigger pull, flinch...You probably haven't even fired a real gun.
japimportssuck 8 months ago 4
@japimportssuck exactly, that's how I thought before firing a gun, my first time shooting a 12 ga with no choke and birdshot loads, I missed a milk jug, because I thought it would be whimpy in kick, and then it got me by surprise, now I treat every gun as it it will kick, that way, light loads are nothing, and heavy loads, I can stay on target with.
drewnickel 8 months ago
@joeratti
Kid have you ever shot a handgun?
Missing a milk jug at that distance is easy to do.
Blahblobify 5 months ago
Wow I thought that was a fat woman shooting until he turned around. O.o
IamCommanderShepard 8 months ago
yeah, fuck milk jugs!
teddybeitler 9 months ago
Was that KENNY POWERS!!!!!!
AaronAbnerBiz 10 months ago
@AaronAbnerBiz YOU'RE FUCKIN' OUT!!!!!!!!
teddybeitler 9 months ago
your a pretty horrible shot if you cant hit something from about 15 feet away with a glock
Brootalak47 10 months ago
The kids go through gallons of milk, so we save up the jugs and fill 'em up. They all fall victim to 200-grain JHP's at 1200fps.
rattinox 10 months ago
glock in 10mm. the only glock to buy. :)
SpAwNTRiAD 10 months ago
You get more from a Glock for the money than any other...
railroadtrash09 10 months ago
Lol the 10mm isn't really designed for a personal defense weapon. It penetrates to much! Which is why the 40 S&W was born. 10mm is more so used for hunting. You don't want to use a handgun that penetrates that far, and worry about other outcomes to where the bullet leads to.
MrJstub 11 months ago
@MrJstub Actually from my knowledge, the 40 S&W was developed following the FBI tests of the 10mm. In which agents, mainly the female agents could not handle the 10mm effectively.
whosthere1 10 months ago
@MrJstub You are retarded. The 10mm is THE personal defense pistol round. Please stop repeating baseless shit you read on the internet.
w3ath3rby 10 months ago
@w3ath3rby you are retarded! Tell me why that round is a "personal defense round" in your theory. That caliber was not designed for home defense. If you want a home defense gun get a shotgun. Go search up some ballistic tests, and you will see WHY that is not considered a gun you would use in a house hold defense situation. It's basically a magnum 40sw. If you want a magnum then get a 44
MrJstub 7 months ago
nice miss...
SDChop 11 months ago
water jugs at 20 ft with a Glock 20? Pffft. Take that sucker out to the wood pile and split some firewood. Works great for that!
TribTrekker 11 months ago
ive been shot with a glock...i now own one...i trust it...
FuhQshane 11 months ago
Glock makes an exceptionally reliable and accurate weapon, not my favorite but I would trust it with my life.
dentonchrisfire 11 months ago
glock sucks
MrIlovepenguins 11 months ago
Well if Obama wore a "Glock" sweat shirt it might remind the people of the inner city not to riot when he fails to get the nomination in 2012. As for Biden, it would just make everybody chuckle a bit.
faffaflunkie 1 year ago 12
@faffaflunkie He's not going to fail, osama died while he is in presidency, approval ratings shot up, and their isn't any feasible republican candidates... their all fucking crazy.
jonyboy714 8 months ago
@faffaflunkie weak comment
playherone 5 months ago
@playherone Hey stupid, I made that comment almost a year ago. If Obama DOESN'T get the nomination-I look like a genius. You on the other hand will always be somebody's bitch.
faffaflunkie 5 months ago
Where do you go to buy Glock clothing. Is there a Glock store or something?
faffaflunkie 1 year ago
@faffaflunkie
Yep...go to shop (dot) teamglock (dot) com
Plus many of the Glock accessories stores sell these types of items however I find Lenny McGill (glockstore) cheesy and some of his products are highly tacky and take away from the beauty of the Glock. Plus I am still awaiting a sweatshirt I bought from them like a month ago.
Anokpoet 1 year ago
@Anokpoet That's too bad. I was going to send a couple to Obama and Biden.
faffaflunkie 1 year ago
@faffaflunkie
Why? Because they haven't taken away our guns and in fact expanded our rights to allow us to carry in national parks? Or because some crazy right wing nuts who probably sold ammo for a living, who couldn't stand the fact Obama had darker skin, made up ridiculous claims that Obama was going to take away our guns and ammo to drive the prices up so it now costs more to shoot,. Obama isn't great but because he is basically an extension of Bush and all the previous idiots before that.
Anokpoet 1 year ago
.50 action express is def not a military caliber. Some militaries actually use the Magnum Research Jericho in .41AE and .45 but never the .50. Sry man. its impractical and bulky and the world has moved past low capacity autopistols, we have the glock and beretta and S n' W that can hold near to 20 rounds now. Plus if youre familiar with the hague convention which Im not sure if israel follows but it statutes that 9x19, 9x17 must be used in a sidearm, hence our mistake of using the M9 or px4storm
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ivylsp 1 year ago
did he miss the first shot??
kode1303 1 year ago
@kode1303 Yes he did, and I laughed rather loudly. It is beyond me how you miss a 3-4 yard shot with such a large target, but he managed it.
Cspence024 1 year ago
Only thing missing is you wearing a skirt. For goodness sake, man up.
kenfo0 1 year ago
rock out with your glock out
roguetrip99 1 year ago
@roguetrip99 haha!
TIKIMAN198 1 year ago
My gun is longer than your gun. You angry trolls must have little pricks. Picked on when you were a kid?
MDS1958 1 year ago
You missed a milk jug from like 15 feet?
zardinuk 1 year ago 74
is 10mm and 40 cal the same? like could i switch back and forward on a 40 pistol and vise versa?
skittlekiller 1 year ago
@skittlekiller
The bullets are the same diameter, that's it. .40 is a weaker, downloaded variant of 10mm auto.
10mmTroy 1 year ago
@10mmTroy so i couldnt use a 10mm n my springfield xd40?
skittlekiller 1 year ago
@skittlekiller
No, the 10mm case is way longer.
10mmTroy 1 year ago
@skittlekiller If you're asking something like that, you shouldn't own that pistol..
HiCapacity 1 year ago
@HiCapacity
I know people like you; the old farts at almost every gun store who seem to hate everyone, and especially younger people who come in. You have this "you're not worthy" attitude and treat people like they are retards.
trapstar918420 1 year ago
@trapstar918420 Actually I'm 20 years old. All I meant was you need to do your research before buying a pistol. It's not safe or responsible.
HiCapacity 1 year ago
@trapstar918420 ive been to those gun stores and have dealt with the old farts too..they judge a book by it cover but when i say "im in the market for that desert eagle you have here" and then proceed to flash a huge wad of cash they DUMMY up really quick... i fuck with them alot... and laugh about it... alot of gun stores have lost a lot business because they were not polite to me... i have close to ten grand worth of firearms.
RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ 1 year ago
Oh lord... The stupid... It actually hurts. The comments..... LOL!
BlowhobPeenad 1 year ago
I don't see the point in making prey suffer,so I choose a caliber that is capable of a quick human kill and take my time to get the right shot. If I don't feel that I can get a quick kill shot in a safe direction I don't take the shot. I can see where the .22lr comes in handy for a trapper that wants to keep the pelt or for small game.
500SWMAGOPERATOR 1 year ago
@500SWMAGOPERATOR Wait, are you hunting people in this scenario? If you are just trying to bash the 10mm cartridge and say that the .500 mag is superior, then that is pretty stupid. If I wanted that much gun powder in brass I would carry a rifle. You only have five shots, and a much lower rate of fire than any semi-auto 10mm. I could shoot 90 rounds of 200gr. hard cast at 1300fps from a G20 in less than a minute. It can hit a target 100y away. It is a near perfect balance of fire/stopping power.
trapstar918420 1 year ago
@500SWMAGOPERATOR I agree. However, I think handguns of any size vs. the BIG bears are better suited to back up or self defense. (if you don't have the means to carry a rifle.) A .458 Lott or something similar would be a better choice for a big bear then any handgun. A .500 SW would be my #1 choice if I couldn't carry a rifle and just needed something for self defense. A .44 Mag with the absolute best load available would be the min. for bears, I agree on that!
DigitalHaze65536 3 months ago
LoL -- now let's do another where you don't miss a 1Gal bottle from close enough to kick it. LoL ok it wasn't kicking distance but it was way too close to miss.
SpitRhyma 1 year ago
Nice shirt....didn't have to qualify with a Glock to wear that apparently LOL.....Stevie Wonder could hit those jugs.
MrAnimalControl 1 year ago
I love the Glock 20 its the gun that i sleep with but 10mm's are for self defense too expensive so for the range i use .40 S&W it works in the gun to with no problems.
AKxALLxDAYx 1 year ago
i always cringe when people on you tube fire off a few shots then turn around to the camera and giggle... im waiting for the video of the guy turning around to giggle and then shooting off his own foot or his friend filming himself.
RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ 2 years ago 46
@RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ it's much harder when you have a double action pistol
inkbot2000 1 year ago
@inkbot2000 ..still,not safe and trust me..they are that stupid out there and it will and probably has happened.
RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ 1 year ago
@RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ actually I just remembered the video of the guy giving a lecture on gun safety who accidentally shoots himself in the foot with a glock 17
inkbot2000 1 year ago
@inkbot2000 haha..thats epic.
RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ 1 year ago
@RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ - What does turning to giggle have to do with shooting your own foot? If the gun is pointed down range with your finger off the trigger, what is the problem?
There is a fine line between gun safety and safety-nazi.
KurNorock 1 year ago 3
@KurNorock keep it up.. good luck.
RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ 1 year ago
@RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ
Then why do you watch these videos? I know just the video you are looking for, its on youtube and called "DEA agent shoots himself."
trapstar918420 1 year ago
@trapstar918420 i watch alot of gun videos and again.. i always cringe when people turn around and giggle at the camera with thier finger on the triggger.. thats all im saying. and..i dont need to see anyone shoot themselves.
RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ 1 year ago
@RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ
He shoots himself in the foot, not the head. It was an accident in a class room full of kids and parents. check it out. It's a good gun safety video, what not to do.
trapstar918420 1 year ago
@RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ STFU who fuckin cares you dumb fuck im sure they no what they are doing, yes i agree its not safe but its their own life i hope you shoot yourself
bamyfz450 1 year ago
@RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ The gun was still pointing down range in a safe direction.....
xmanhockey7 1 year ago
@xmanhockey7 was it though? dude looked like a moron one... let off one shot and missed..let of two more and hit targets..then turned around and snickered... i saw no magazine release, no racked back slide... so... again..i can wait till a camera man gets popped...most likely has but didnt live to put it on youtube. most glocks hold 17 rounds for the record.. but whatever.
RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ 1 year ago
@RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ Most glocks? are you dumb only the 17 19 and 26 models have 17 rounds, granted the 26 is sub compact u can put a glock 17 mag in the 26, you can buy +2 base plate for the 21 and i think thats 15 rounds, your dumb for saying most glocks hold 17 rounds
bamyfz450 1 year ago
@bamyfz450 the 22? no? are u high?
RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ 1 year ago
@RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ Why would he do that if he has the slightest bit of trigger discipline? Pretty hard to fire a gun when you keep your finger out of the trigger guard.
bobbytimberlake 1 year ago
@bobbytimberlake LOL seems there are some people on youtube who don't know shit. Imagine that!!!
mlacey56 1 year ago
@mlacey56 people like yourself.
RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ 10 months ago
@bobbytimberlake its just bad practice reguardless.
RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ 10 months ago
@RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ Damn. Don't give this guy a gun. He'll shoot his eye out!!! LULZ
mlacey56 1 year ago
@RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ Everyone watch out its Safety Sally on yourtube.
scuds03 1 year ago
@RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ A possibility, Not a Certainty.
bathwhoreE 1 year ago
@RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ
He kept the muzzle pointed in a safe direction in this video. No big deal. Get over it.
CoChicken1337 10 months ago
@CoChicken1337 i said it six months ago and i will say it again... its just bad practice. and...you are a little late.
RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ 10 months ago
@RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ
I don't care when you said it. It's no bad practice at all. There's no rule that says "Always look where the muzzle is pointing." He had the muzzle pointed in a safe direction. That's all that's required. Anyone can look around as much as they want as long as they're not sweeping anybody or anything they're worried about shooting.
CoChicken1337 10 months ago
@CoChicken1337 also..if you watch the video again you cant really see exactly where he has the muzzle pointed when he turns around,the camera points down and dude, really,whatever you say man,if people like this guy want to practice bad firearm handling and shoot themselves or others then great, ill watch and comment on that video to... i could care less, i was simply stating that "i always cringe when people fire off a few shots and then turn and snicker to the camera" thats just me. move along
RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ 10 months ago
people below me fail..stop arguing over something stupid
grumpy165 2 years ago 3
used against you in court? id feel bad for the guy breaking in my house if i pulled the raging bull out.............
kingbigdawg9 2 years ago
oh god my guts have somehow exploded!!!!!!!!
truck2222 2 years ago
(cont) not accomplish much. The full-house Bren Ten should be able to achieve reliable one-shot stops out to at least 50 meters, but pistol actions do not take place at 50 meters. The combat pistol is best employed at distances hardly more than across the room, and the Bren Ten will not do this any better than the venerable 45 ACP, or so it would seem.
Jeff Cooper, Commentaries, Volume 11, Number 12
sbd45acp 2 years ago
I agree and the 10mm can be used against you in court. Even if it isn't based on any fact they will still try to say something like "why didn't you carry friendly bullets like 9, 40 or 45"
bigjohn88TN 2 years ago
Thats so wrong because I'd rather carry a 10mm over any "friendly" round if it meant I could defend myself better.
tacamo21 2 years ago 16
Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with the 10mm, I think it's a great round but it's just a risk that could be avoided in court. Where you hit is much more important than how powerfull the round is. You can't assume that your attacker will give up from the pain of a hard hitting round. If I lived in an area with alot of dangerous game though, the 10 would be my first choice, Glock 29 most likely.
bigjohn88TN 2 years ago
@tacamo21 personally i perfer .45 ACP but i have to admit 10mm would fuck up just about anyones day
ManofSteel4889 1 year ago
@tacamo21 Just carry a SW 500 Magnum in that case. Its much more powerful than a 10mm...
Just using your own logic
labartic 1 year ago
@labartic no not like that, some guy was pointing out how some lawyers would use the the fact that a 10mm isn't a "friendly" round compared to the 9mm or .45 acp and nail you on it.
tacamo21 1 year ago
@tacamo21 Someone could make the same argument for the 9mm, since it was the weapon of choice for the Virginia Tech killer and the most popular criminal caliber.
I would counter that the 10mm was created for the FBI, so how evil could it be :)
labartic 1 year ago
@labartic true
tacamo21 1 year ago
@tacamo21 - If you actually get sent to jail because of that then your own lawyer was a complete idiot.
Any mediocre lawyer could counter that argument easily.
KurNorock 1 year ago
@KurNorock Yeah thats true.
tacamo21 1 year ago
@tacamo21
Lol. .45 ACP is not what I would call a "friendly round".
000DeathcoreFTW 1 year ago
@000DeathcoreFTW I agree with you, not even a 357 or 44 magnum. lol
Mr291229 1 year ago
@labartic I have shot the SW 500 and it's surprisingly accurate
xmanhockey7 1 year ago
well you can't go wrong with any of the .40, .45, 10mm's because they are light enough to hold more than just 8 rounds in a mag and are able to aim with them. the .50 ae is not accurate nor is it ment for self def...it's ment for millitary use. but most def stick to any thing bigger than a 9mm and you'll be set for any amount of self defence.
drstrangeman 1 year ago
@drstrangeman Have to argue a couple points with you.
The 50AE cartidge is =VERY= accurate.
I used to routinely shoot it at 100 yard milk jugs with iron sights, no problem.
And it's not meant for military use. Show me one country issuing 50AE to their troops. They don't.
50AE is at best a hunting round, but really just for showing off at the range.
candlstudios 1 year ago
@candlstudios it was made for the israeli millitary. but has been replaces for a more practial round.
realy? hows the grouping? is it at least 5 shots in a 5 in circle at 100 yards?
it probably is better as a finnishing round (i.e when the boar is down but still alive. .50ae to the skull should put it out of it's missery.)
i would not doubt that.
either way i'd rather stick with either a .40 cal (which you can get a 13 shot mag for) or a .45 (and you could get a 12 shot mag for)
drstrangeman 1 year ago
@drstrangeman 50AE was not made for the Israeli military. Please show me a citation or acrticle proving me wrong.
Magnum Research makes the Desert Eagle Pistol. They =CONTRACT= with IMI for the actual manufacturing. They are not made for or by the Israeli Military.
50AE applications are probably the same as 44MAG (the cartidge it is based on). 50AE would just have more power behind it. 44MAG is used for lots of hunting.. not just finishing shots.
candlstudios 1 year ago
@tacamo21
There are no "friend;y" rounds. You're obviously one of those ignorant kids who just thinks "bigger is better". Go educate yourself before commenting any further.
CoChicken1337 10 months ago
@CoChicken1337 I was commenting on how this guy was prosecuted on the fact he used a .44 or something in self defence but since it wasn't the "friendly" .45 or 9mm, the prosecution was saying overkill. And why the hell are you commenting on some thing I commented on like 2 years ago!
tacamo21 10 months ago
@tacamo21
Because it's at the top of the page. That's why.
CoChicken1337 10 months ago
@bigjohn88TN
That is a myth. Ammo is almost never brought up in court unless it is something outrageous. And the 10mm, although a great cartridge, is not outrageous. Now make your own shotgunshells with exploding inserts that explode inside someone, and it will be brought to the courts attention. Standard manufactured ammo is not a problem in court. Trust me, I know.
Glockster777 2 years ago
@Glockster777 You are so right I know law and you will seldom see a prosecutor or Defense Lawyer go after someone on the grounds that he carried 10mm bc he was looking for trouble. NOT REASONABLE! and if you killed someone truly defending your own life and/or your family you probably wont be charged with a crime and summoned to court
Nicho2177 1 year ago
The Bren Ten was a concept of mine, and while I am not ashamed of it, I admit that this concept was not entirely sound. What the Bren Ten pistol achieved over, for example, the 1911, was range. The full-house, 10mm cartridge definitely not the attenuated 10s which are popular now pushed the effective range of the combat sidearm out beyond that which is usually expected. But extending the manageable range of a combat pistol out beyond the ability of the shooter to utilize it does not
sbd45acp 2 years ago
what's with all the stupid adds poppin up on every fuckin video i fuckin hate comercials
jedinuts 2 years ago
The 10mm round is right now the most versatile round going. No one I know doesn't love it.
ronoman88 2 years ago
Hollow points rule!
GunGemini 2 years ago
10mm vs .45acp . I wouldn't want to get shot by any of them. We were taught It was all about shot placement . Oh, and the FBI dropped the 10mm due to the fact that many female and smaller statured males complained about recoil issues . It made it hard for them to set up their follow up shot(s). So the .40 Small&Weak was born( yeah, I know its common knowlege) . My wife did think the recoil was a little much. Though even she commented that the recoil only felt about the same as a .45 acp.
st2hallock 2 years ago
shooting at a target without a backstop is not safe. There could be kids playing in the woods, or anyone in the tree line even though it may be private property.
randylham 2 years ago
That is a big hill. It is steeper than it looks in the video. It is a giant backstop.
holadude69 2 years ago
The round is too expensive...I have one! cant afford to shoot it!
japimportssuck 2 years ago
How big of a worry of overpenetration is it with anybody out there who use these and similar large bore handguns? I'm sure theres some people who can handle the recoil but I would be worried about drilling a whole through a gangbanger and it hitting an innocent person on it's exit.
mojothemigo 2 years ago
I use hollow points to help lessen the penetration some. I have shot a snowman and found a bullet laying on top of the snow not far behind it. I hope I never find out on a person.
holadude69 2 years ago
Uhmm So when do the explosions take place?
sbd45acp 2 years ago
Exploding water jugs.
holadude69 2 years ago
holadude69- Sorry couldn't help myself. Kool Vid
sbd45acp 2 years ago
The basic advice is to shoot the largest caliber you can accurately. All bullets do damage and it all depends on the type of ammo you're using and shot placement. Does that make it easy for those who aren't clear on this issue?
ScopedOUT2 2 years ago
u guys are idiots about stopping power...anything that causes pain and shock to the body has stopping power...including a knife...i can say this bcuz i got shot with a 9MM hollow point and it sure stopped me! so all you guys STFU a bullet is a bullet and can do the same damage...you guys need to use your stopping power to shut the fuck up
gordo0822 2 years ago
the follow up shot with a 10mm isn't all that much slower compared to a 9mm.... now if you're talking about a 50AE then it may be slow especially how big the gun is too
yourleftnut1 2 years ago
it doesnt mean shit if you cant hit what your shooting at. If you can double 9mm,
.40, .45 .damn .50. most likely they are going down. It doesnt matter what size caliber it is. Jesus!
bmetstud 2 years ago
would you rather get shot in the dome with a 9 or 45? i think to a point it does matter
poopz 2 years ago
the best hand gun on earth!
zillsbury 2 years ago
Anyone that says "stopping power" needs to stop watching movies. Scientifically and in reports from shootings there has been no real evidence of any such thing. Is it velocity, round diameter, weight...we don't know...
As for the ammo debate, 10mm is a very powerful round, .40 S&W on steroids (actually the .40 S&W came after the 10mm). You can't say better though, because that's an opinion. Follow up shots are slower with more recoil. 9mm Glock has 17 rnd capacity. That has to mean something.
skyline44512 2 years ago
The whole concept is debatable, but I'd say "stopping power" would be kinetic energy (measured in footpounds) delivered to the target. Given, follow up shots are slower with more recoil, but the whole idea behind more powerful rounds is to not have to take follow up shots. If you're dealing with multiple targets, you'll still probably save time, because instead of having to pump 3 and 4 rounds into a target before pacifying them, you can knock 'em down in one shot and move on to the next threat.
razgriz4977 2 years ago
10 mm VERY powerful? Compared to? 500 S&W? Nope.45acp +P? Nope. 10mm approximates ballistics of the 100 year old 38-40 WCF round-Nothing new under the Sun.Capacity only means something after you have missed as much as the other guys gun's maximum ammo capacity. In other words, YOUR 17 round G17 vs an opponent w/ 10 rounds, YOUR extra capacity won't be a factor until you both have fired & NOT settled the fight w/ 10 rounds. YOUR extra doesn't matter unless you get to use them to make a diff..
sbd45acp 2 years ago
The 10mm has better stopping power than the 45 with the penetration of the 357 mag. Its more modern than either, shoots flatter than both and over all is a better round. Sorry jack.
IllustriousSeven 2 years ago
What is stopping power & where can you document that whatever it is, 10mm somehow better at it? That 10mm is modern has absolutely nothing to do with how it performs. (see 38-40 WCF ballistics) Shoots somewhat flatter than std 45 ACP, but at Real World handgun engagement ranges, trajectory matters NOT. As for penetration, Higher velocity and expansion tends to reduce penetration. As I said 45 acp "with the right load" will do anything 10mm will do.If 10mm is better why did FBI drop it... jack?
sbd45acp 2 years ago
Run the numbers brother,
10mm silvertip HP make a bigger impression against a bowling pin at 50 yards than my .45 with similar rounds does at 10 feet.
Why did the FBI drop it? Ladies and effeminate men with little hands couldn't handle it. Can you? They went to .40 S&W. Why didn't they go to .45 if it is so wonderous?
IllustriousSeven 2 years ago
"A little knowledge is a dangerous thing" Suggest YOU run the #s I said "the right load in 45acp. "Your 10mm 175 grain Win Silvertip is 1141 fps & 506 ft.lbs at 50 yds. Cor Bon 185 grain 45acp +P is 540 ft.lbs at 10 feet. FBI dropped 10mm for field agents. For FBI guys who really have to shoot when it counts.. what does FBI Hostage Rescue Team shoot....jack?
sbd45acp 2 years ago
What would both do at 10 ft?
What would both do at 50 yds?
Riddle me that batman.
IllustriousSeven 2 years ago
See, people like you cling to one round and think its God's gift to sportsmen. You're claiming the .45 ACP can do anything the 10mm Auto can is like saying "Oh, the .30-06 can do anything the .300 Win Mag can".
Not really, homeslice. Not really. From a pure physics stand point the 10mm is undeniably more powerful than a comparable .45 ACP. Nevertheless, I'd trust both with my life against two-legged vermin. Can we agree on that?
"FBI dropped 10mm for field agents."
women can't hack it.
IllustriousSeven 2 years ago
FBI dropped 10mm for numerous reasons;S&W Mod.1006&1076 were too big, heavy, expensive, recoiled excessively& costly to maintain for EVERYBODY. FBI settled on downloaded 10mm and Federal Cartridge & S&W said hey if that's what you want we can give you same performance, more 40 S&W rounds in a smaller package that kicks less and will last more that 5k rounds before something breaks.All the big strong manly men at FBI said "Hey that's a good thing"
sbd45acp 2 years ago
I see you have a copy of "Cartridges of the World" also.
IllustriousSeven 2 years ago
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sbd45acp 2 years ago
Your words"You're claiming the .45 ACP can do anything the 10mm Auto can is like saying "Oh, the .30-06 can do anything the .300 Win Mag can".45acp "with the right load" will accomplish the same task in the Real World not on an Internet ballistics chart. As for your 30-06 comparison- Same .308 180 grn bullet at 2700 fps from 30-06 will do just about anything the SAME bullet at 3000 fps from .300 mag out to 500 yds. Shot past 500 lately? Thanks for making my point- again
sbd45acp 2 years ago
Go ahead and use .30-06 on against grizz and see what happens.
IllustriousSeven 2 years ago
I have.. and did. Shot him over bait in Northern British Columbia, he swatted at the impact ran about 80 yds and piled up.. dead. 180 grain Barnes- X bullet at 2780 fps through both shoulders from a Winchester Pre-64 Model 70..... cal. 30-06 Yours?
sbd45acp 2 years ago
Steyr Mannlicher Model S
If shot placement were the same guaruntee any hunting load .300 win mag would have dropped that bear on the spot or damn close to it...no RUNNING for 80 yards before giving up the ghost.
IllustriousSeven 2 years ago
Just imagine for second what would've happened had that bear been 80 yards away from where you took the shot, and suppose he came your direction. Your story is just proof that the .30-06 is just a wee bit on the light side for big N. American game.
IllustriousSeven 2 years ago
What magic is supposed to happen with the same .30 cal 180 grn bullet when I load into into a 300 Win Mag case and sen it out at 300 more fps?
sbd45acp 2 years ago
Oh sure, an object weighing the same but thrown a full football field further in one second can't have that much more heat behind it, could it?
Get a life. 10mm outclasses .45 trick for trick and you know it.
IllustriousSeven 2 years ago
@IllustriousSeven I bet the .500S&W mag. loaded with a 500 gr. X.T.P would drop a bear on the spot with one well placed round.
500SWMAGOPERATOR 1 year ago
@500SWMAGOPERATOR No, really?
IllustriousSeven 1 year ago
@500SWMAGOPERATOR a .22 LR could drop a bear with one well placed shot...whats your point?
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500SWMAGOPERATOR 1 year ago
@annihilationnegitive I wouldn't recomend the use of a.22 long rifle against an animal as large as a bear. I guess if that is all you have on hand at the time it 'may' work. Most states have a minimum caliber for bear hunting and a .22 long rifle falls well below the guidelines. Personally I wouldn't use any rifle chambered in anything smaller then a .308 or a handgun chambered in anything lsmaller then a .44 magnum.
500SWMAGOPERATOR 1 year ago
@500SWMAGOPERATOR thats not the point...i see it went right over your head...did it not?
my point is, that with a well placed shot you can kill anything with a single shot, regardless of the caliber...the use of a caliber such as .500 sw does not increase the one shot drop capability of a well placed shot over any other caliber, it compensates for the users error and inability to get that perfect shot...which in real life is very hard to do.
annihilationnegitive 1 year ago
@annihilationnegitive Are you stupid you cant take down a elephant with a 22, even if well placed your dumb
bamyfz450 1 year ago
@bamyfz450 yes, you can...there are two ways to do it...one is much harder than the other...if you can manage to land a round in the eye socket, have it follow the nerve channel into the brain, its done. easier would be to aim for the artery that runs just under the skin behind their front leg...of course you need to have an understanding of its anatomy to do this...bit it is possible.
annihilationnegitive 1 year ago
@annihilationnegitive
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BlowhobPeenad 1 year ago
Nobody is talking about .308, but since you bring it up....
I've handled .40 S&W rounds that do everything a .45 ACP can, and in a more compact round that is just as available. One might say that .40 S&W is to .45 ACP what .308 Win is to the .30-06.
But thats besides the point.
10mm is to .45 ACP what .300 Win Mag is to .30-06. You know perfectly God Damn well that big game hunting takes more than what either .30-06 or .308 can dish out, even in best loads.
Don't avoid the topic.
IllustriousSeven 2 years ago
I didn't bring up .308 Winchester... dumbass. I identified the bullet diameter for both 30-06 & 300 Win Mag. IS THE SAME .308 DIAMETER. Explain to me how you are gonna guarantee anything that happens after you shoot a Grizz with .300 Win Mag or anything else for that matter. And what caliber/ cartridge is it that has NEVER failed on North American game? 30-06 with the right load will take any game on the planet.Honestly, your ignorance is astounding..
sbd45acp 2 years ago
Wow, you've got a lot of time to waste. Hows your wife doing?
IllustriousSeven 2 years ago
My wife is fine.. she is looking over my shoulder at the laptop screen and laughing her ass off..at you! little one.. I am not the guy who has done - what's the score now..? 21 posts in 90 minutes!? You go boyeee!!
sbd45acp 2 years ago
Is that right, caliber whore? Tell her I said hi.
IllustriousSeven 2 years ago
She says hi.. Hey man it's been real, it's been fun,- It's been real fun, love ya, peace out & buh bye
sbd45acp 2 years ago
Big kisses back at ya. Toodles.
IllustriousSeven 2 years ago
Well take your 30-06 and go shoot a rhino we'll send a glass jar for them to ship you back in.
damnhell07 2 years ago
Oh and I'll guarentee you one thing my 300 RUM will stop any black bear on the spot and probably what ever is behind it too
damnhell07 2 years ago
dumbhello7- Sure jump right in sport! And how exactly do "guarentee" any thing with any game animal? Did you get a signed contract from the bear or rhino stating " I will fall over and die on the spot from 300 RUM, but stipulate I will never die from the same bullet when fired from a 30-06, impacting my hide at 300 fps less" Got one of those contracts? The ONLY guarantee, is that there are NO guarantees
sbd45acp 2 years ago
Lol your more of a dumb ass than I figured you for it's not the feet per second that matters it's foot pounds of energy that the round hits the target with. Why don't you do yourself a favor go buy a reloading book or two and do some reading to educate yourself and quit listening to every tom, dick, and harry says so you'll quit talking with such ignorance. Oh and I didnt say that my RUM will stop a rhino if I wanted to do that I'd go get a .416 Rigby or a .416 Remington magnum.
damnhell07 2 years ago