Black Mountain Rag (jam)

[FATALJDM951]

fine pickin

[fngrpkn06]

Holy ..... Moly... that's some smokin' pickin'!

[popoaggie]

Was there that night and left the building wanting to smash all my guitars. Moore tore it upand never even looks at his guitar while picking. He told me if you have to look down at your fingerboard in the middle of a song, it's already to late. You done wrecked!

[capitalismforme]

@WOMsteve Mark O'Connor's Orange Blossom Special is at 204 which is crazy fast.

[capitalismforme]

It's about 148 BPM. Not even close to 260 as is described.

[Master100Mind]

which one is jack lawrence

[shafly67]

these guys are great no doubt. but its too far away from the melody. and it looks real compared to the big mon video.

[MrBoombalitsy]

Would you believe that I only taught him for six months.

[bsiudy]

@8aetroya8 sometimes bluegrass may be slightly similar in sound and key but each artist puts their own soul into it and makes it theirs. its what makes bluegrass so beautiful. so quit being a prick and enjoy the good music or go listen to something else.

[southernsportsman424]

lets see your version, sport.

[WOMsteve]

Hate to disagree with your disagreement but if you go by the bass line your speed is doubling the actual bass line. Your counting 16th notes as quarter notes I believe. Assuming it is 260 then I had no idea I could play so fast as this is about normal speed for me, however, these guys are just a wee bit better:-)

[jocwalk]

Sorry but you're still wrong. I know what's going on through familiarity with the song and the standard manner in which fiddle tunes are done. Black Mountain Rag is a bit different in that it has a middle part. Still, I'm looking purely at the time it takes for these guys to play what I know are the first eight measures of the song which is in 4/4 time. These guys aren't playing 1/16 notes at all. They're all 1/4 and 1/8 notes, just played at an unreal tempo.

[capitalismforme]

@jocwalk Lastly, just look up a piece of sheet music for this song. You'll quickly discover that 4/4 time signature is counted, for BPM purposes, in quarter note time and the rest of the song is played in eighth notes. Therefore the count, to determine BPM is 1.2.3.4 NOT 12.34.56.78 as you are counting.

[capitalismforme]

@jocwalk Oh, one more important thing. Your mathematical formula for determine BPM is completely wrong. The correct formula is to count how many "beats", not notes, are played within a 15 second period of time (:08 - :23). In that time frame, there are 37 beats that are played. Then you multiply that amount by how many beats are in a measure. In this case, 4. 37 x 4 = 148 BMP, The exact amount my metronome counted. I haven't a clue how you arrived at 8 seconds for your calculation.

[jocwalk]

Sorry but you're wrong. This is basic math. The first 8 measures take just under 8 seconds here (:08-:16.) That's 32 beats in less than 8 seconds which is 240 beats per minute and that's at a full 8 seconds. They're just under that time so it's about 260 beats per minute.

[capitalismforme]

@jocwalk LOL. That is not how you determine the BPM. The easiest way to determine it is on the 1 beat that the rhythm guitars are hitting. That's the correct BPM to measure and that is at 148 BPM.

[capitalismforme]

@jocwalk Furthermore, in order to determine a measure, you've FIRST got to determine how fast the note that is being measured that makes up a measure. It would seem, you are measuring a measure by the use of 16th notes rather than 8th notes and doubling your results.

[olemunati]

That was brilliant!

I´d like too see Tommy Emmanuel in there also...

[wweberpal]

I enjoyed your video. I think you guys did an Excellent job on this song. Best Wishes, Wayne Weberpal

[Rikk303]

Poor guy on the right got the budget mike. The budget was small given the sound of the other 2 fellas

[danflatpick]

Normally he'd be plugged in also, and he's got 2 transducers under the soundboard.

[Rikk303]

Whatever the amplification, the ability of all three blows me away and they clearly look like they're loving every minute

[pickingmybajno]

would of been nice to see Tony Rice in there to mix it up a little.

[mitoguitarman]

Amazing!

[john77905]

this is what i'm talkin about!!!! these guys tore it up john moore in my opinion ran away with hands down clear concise notes, fast fingering, still steve is absolutly no slouch can anyone tell me who is on the far right or there left?

[jocwalk]

He is Jack Lawrence, who I think most people know from backing up Doc Watson. To me, he's a distant third in this group.

[jhinson411]

Hillbilly shred..love this stuff!

[lorend01]

looks like a Henderson guitar on the far right.

[baddd60]

Whats scary that the guy on the left is primarily a mandolin player.

[SabuPtolemy]

Dayum.........

[Trash732]

that guitarist was out of this world

[markie65]

The guy on the left(john moore)is the most interesting and 'on it'

[baddd60]

John Moore is primarily a mandolin player.

[jocwalk]

I don't know that I'd say that. He's a great guitarist, no doubt but Steve definitely put a lot more variety into what he played. John Moore stayed mostly (not entirely) within a four fret range in what he played. Still, they're all better than I'll ever be.

[bigdjindustriez]

theres Uncle Jack as Doc calls him haha...pretty great

[rrush2214]

putting buckhead in his place

[wolfman21]

holy wow.......i could not imagine bein able to do that....i just started playin the guitar abouta year ago, and all i can say is wow

[ray8up]

Unbelievable

[felisinbmt]

un tesoro para obtener fraseos.

[banjobilly32]

Now that's pickin the Chet right out of it!

[BanjoBoyMatt]

Yeah!!