I have to admit, the prospect of even seeing this movie initially creeped me out, but everyone from Ebert & Roeper to Howard Stern raved about it. I may just have to toughen up and watch it for myself. Lee Daniels is a great director, that's for sure.
@LIVEMeltdown4ROCK "I don't care how "sorry" these freaks are - the moment anyone so much as thinks that way is the moment they've signrd their own death warrent! Round them up and kill them all! they are worse than Nazis and Terrorists combined!"
Do you think you would be sticking to this same position if the gender roles were reversed?? No you wouldn't, if this had been a 26 year old female teacher pursuing a sexual relationship with a 13 year old boy, you would not have a problem with it.
I'm sorry there is nothing wrong with this Charactor that Kevin Bacon is playing in this movie, he seems to like underage 12 year old girls which its ok in my book since our double standard culture allows older females to have sex with minors and then call it a "love affair"
But if a grownman has sex with a minor, everyone freaks out and call it rape and pedophilia, this is hypocrisy and adouble standard at its finest that needs to be repelled
@OceanicMetal "You are the most idiotic baffoon i have ever read - a pedo cannot be trusted, tolerated nor allowed to live - kill the pedo and you save so many innocent lives in exchange for a waste of space one of natures mistakes"
Hmmm thats funny, that wouldn't be the same arguement you'd be sticking to if the gender roels were reversed. If this had been Nichole Kidman playing a child molestor in this movie having sex with a 13 year old, you wouldn't have a problem with that.
Did anyone notice the Woodsman is the character who saves Little Red Riding Hood from the wolf? Do you think this is a metaphor for the duality that exists within the main character? Both sexual predator and hero, fighting against one-another in an internal psychological battle?
@ThePonsor911 although you just meant to be funny, please stay away from jokes like that in an area like this one. it might just hurt more people than you think.
@ThePonsor911 Kevin bacon playing a child molestor in this movie isn't anything wrong, after all this should be made a love story. Thats what they do whenever there is a female teacher sex scandal with a minor having sex. There cannot be a double standard, either we punish both male and female predators or we flatout don't punish neither genders to be fair.
@travpoet - assuming someone you have never met hasn't experienced what you are indicating is pretty insular. Despite my childhood of abuse and violence, I hold steadfast to my stated opinion. I don't let my anger and hurt from such experiences fuel any base desires such as mob hatred or eye-for-an-eye justice. Violence begets violence...it is not and never will be the solution.
First off, amazing movie. I'm angry about a couple things though. Not the movie itself, it's nearly flawless. my problem is that Kevin Bacon was totally snubbed by the academy. How was he not nominated for this? Really? What's even worse is Kevin Bacon has NEVER been nominated for an oscar. I don't get how an actor this good doesnt even have an oscar nomination (at the very least)
@9timm9 "Hollywood REALLY fucked up by not giving him the oscar!!! 99.9% of actors would NEVER even have the balls to play the role!!"
I don't see how anybody wouldn't have the balls to play a child molestor in a movie when nobody seems to have a problem with it whenever a female school teacher in her 20's and 30's is out having multiple repeated sex with a minor. And whenever a female teacher has sex with a student, everyone claims it to be a love story while she gets media coverage.
I agree, I recommend this film to many people when having a pedo mob hatred debate. It really changed my views...I used to have the 'cut off their balls and leave em all on an island" mentality. Not after this film though.
I never thought I would feel sympathy for a Paedophile but then I watched this film. This film has instantly become one of my favourite movies of all time, Kevin Bacon was marvellous in this film and should have received a reward for this. Paedophilia can often be classified as a disease and I think this film justifies that. It's one of those movies that will sit in the back of your mind for weeks on end..
Because some men with a foot fetish prey upon sleeping girls or kidnap them off the street and rape their feet. Point is..a fetish is a fetish. It's the individual that acts it out that separates themselves from the flock. I'd certainly agree when a pedophilia fetish is acted out, then more harm is caused than another one, but the point remains there could be millions that don't act it out, but that one that does causes you and others to say "kill them all".
And I'd fully agree. My stance is firmly on those who haven't done anything. I called it a witch hunt because it's drenched in paranoia and "thought crime". People act as if a pedophilia fetish is a guarantee that the person will act on it eventually. This simply isn't true. For those that do act on it..by all means, maim and slaughter away.
And when does it stop? Why not target foot fetishists as well? Or how about all sexually charged people in general? Since, after all, the only thing preventing a pedophile from molesting a child is the same willpower that prevents any normal guy from raping a woman. There's a lot more pedophiles out there than you seem to realize, and the vast majority never act on their desires in any form at all.
The problem with that is you're not talking about someone who catches some disease and will then transmit that to everyone around him or her. Psychologically speaking, if we could decipher why a fetish develops and then mold an adolescent to prevent that fetish from developing, then I'm sure we'd do it. The issue is this is a human being. A human being who doesn't choose his or her fetishes, and until they act it out are 100% innocent. There's no certainty a pedophile wil act
How very Salem of you. No, I am not. I am, however, educated and understand that a fetish is a fetish. Yes a pedophile "wants to" touch children just as a man with a serious hair fetish will "want to" touch and caress hair, but it does not mean the pedophile will actually do it. So again, I am not perverted but I do believe in innocent until actually guilty of something and I do not believe in witch hunts.
You're extremely ignorant. I understand the hatred against someone who touches a child, but what about those who don't, but want to? Pedophilia is a fetish. This film attempts to portray it for what it is. It's not meant to support pedophilia; it's meant to show that a pedophile is a person with a fetish they CAN NOT CONTROL. And mind you, by "control" I mean they can not control having the fetish, and most certainly I do not mean can not control their actions around it
@LIVEMeltdown4ROCK saying all pedos are a risk to children and rape and stalk children is like saying that all straight men are a risk to women and they all rape and stalk women.
This film was brilliant! kudos to KB for even taking this part on, takes guts to even deal with this kind of subject. An actor of actors, love Kevin Bacon
@atlasshrugged2u "This film was brilliant! kudos to KB for even taking this part on, takes guts to even deal with this kind of subject. An actor of actors, love Kevin Bacon"
I don't think it takes guts for someone like Kevin Bacon to play a child molestor in this movie. You wanna know why?? For the same reason why Nichole Kidman didn't have a problem playing a female child molestor in that one movie of hers where she had sex with a teen boy. There cannot be a double standard
@MultiManmade You didn't get my point. I don't care about Nicole Kidman and what she did. K.B. is a hell of an actor and this movie was not recieved well at all, but the subject needed to be addressed and it was offered to alot of actors who turned it down...he an his wife took it on and had peope look at it from the child molesters point of view. It was an excellent movie and he was brave to take the role.
I hate pedophiles and I think they should be punished badly for what they've done and sent away from civilization. But this movie is great. It shows clearly, that also pedophiles can retain themselves from doing those horrible things to children, only for their pleasure. Kevin Bacon did a great job in this movie.
But I can't find theme song anywhere. Do you know where I can find it? :/
@vers111 Hey its called At the fairground. Check the sountrack for this film. I have no clue how to get it, I think its owned by Opus 1 Music. Good luck, let me know if you get it. Thanks.
this film was produced by Lee Daniels who BTW directed Precious and Shadowboxer, produced Monster's Ball and Tennessee, so you know there's a like a real world connection in this film and that's what made this film as well as all his other films great
Pedophilia! understanding that adults enjoy having intercourse or molesting children.... umm questionable.. there is no cure or justification for this sort of behavior. Pedophilia is a crime... and should be punished as such...Forgiving the perpetrator is up to the victim not the relatives or friends... forgiveness is key to a life of peace, but only the child can do that since only the child was there to suffer the pain, the shame and the humiliation and depravity these people did to them.
It is a state of mind though, its like you or me wanting to have sex with our girlfriend/boyfriend, the physical attraction is the same, its a mental illness and you have to feel sorry for these people. Usually they will know they have the problem for years and fight it eventually giving in, although granted those who know about their issue should seek professional help, but sometimes its just not enough.
@ladyteora ". Pedophilia is a crime... and should be punished as such...Forgiving the perpetrator is up to the victim not the relatives or friends..."
Oh waite a minute here, how is this a crime that this man in this movie is attracted to underage girls?? For the same exact reason why nobody see's it as a crime or s sign of rape when a 34 year old female school teacher by the name of Mary Kay Letourneau was having sex with a 13 year old male student named Vili Fallau
It is a fucking CRIME that Kevin Bacon was not nominated for Best Actor for this performance!!! I cannot believe that ultra-liberal Hollywood could not make that happen!! Even THEY were scared of the subject matter!! I have a great friend who made the mistake of having a sexual relationship with a 15 yr old female, he did 10 yrs probation, got his Bachelor's Degree in that time & now makes over $100,000 a yr. He has proven himself REPEATEDLY, yet STILL has to register for life! PATHETIC!!
@EmoraChan13 He was 32-33...he realized the hard way that he had a weakness & did not stop her advances toward him because at the time, he had the emotional maturity (in some ways) of a teenager himself. This is a REAL psychological issue in the world & NOT something that is BLACK & WHITE! Unfortunately, some people with this condition cannot & will not ever be able to control themselves, BUT this friend of mine is a PRIME EXAMPLE of somebody who made a mistake & has PROVEN himself.
@EmoraChan13 In addition (for what it's worth), a "PEDOPHILE" is medically diagnosed as sombody who EXCLUSIVELY has a sexual interest in people aged 13 and under...which would definitely disqualify my friend from ever being described with that term...
@9timm9 "It is a fucking CRIME that Kevin Bacon was not nominated for Best Actor for this performance!!! "
Amen to that and your right about that, lets also not forget something that Nichole Kidman played a female child molestor in that movie having sex with a teenage boy and nobody freaked out about that. It was veiwed as a love story rather than pedophilia. But yet when its Kevin Bacon playing a role of a pedophile , everyone freaks out and thinks its rape. Give me a f_cking break
To dignam419 - The point here is not to excuse pedophilia as something we should accept or tolerate, but it is important to realize pedophiles are people who (in most cases) have real issues that cannot be overcome as a result of others hating, or abusing them. If you wish to help combat the consequences of pedophilia, I suggest first taking a real interest in understanding it, rather than simply being angry.
@acejacko23 " best drama ever, i love drama, nice and relaxed and actually means something."
Amen to that and i couldn't agree with you more, this movie should be a love story rather than people veiwing this as rape and pedophilia. Lets also not forget how people veiwed that movie as a love story called "The summer of 42" where a 20 something year old women was in a sexual relationship with a 15-16 year old male student. It cannot be a one-sided double standard.
Kevin Bacon got screwed. I've never thought of him as more than an average to decent actor, but he was absolutely phenomenal in this. That's a crime that he wasn't nominated for best actor.
@smoke117 "Kevin Bacon got screwed. I've never thought of him as more than an average to decent actor, but he was absolutely phenomenal in this. That's a crime that he wasn't nominated for best actor."
If this had been Sarah Jessica Parker or Denise Richards playing this part as a child molestor having sex with 13 year old boys in this movie the woodsman, Guarantee she wouldn't have gotten screwed and nobody would have looked at this as rape or pedophilia. Its a double standard.
locking them up has no effect other than a false sense of security and capital punishment is just vengeance which gets you nowhere in life I'm not saying I have sympathy for what they do but to stop them doing it you need to get to the root of the problem kill them and jailing them isn't solving the problem not one little bit
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Don't want to be a dick, but that is bullshit. Soceity has warped your mind so that even child rapist and pedophiles are not responsible for their own actions. I dont believe that for a second...everyone needs to stop making excuses and execptions for bad behavior...I mean who's fault would it be if not the man who is attracted to litte kids?
P.S. I am addressing the kid attraction issue not the gay issue.
It's nothing to do with 'Christianity' believing that everyone shall be forgiven that society is letting so many people off, if anything Christians are seen as more right and radical now days. If anyone is to blame it is definitely the liberals - who are usually atheist.
@CandlesInADaze u are retarded arent you? liberals and fucking politics. it istn the party its the fucking man leading the party. if ur sick of ur stinking american goverment, join the military then become a politition yourself. but the truth is not one fucking political leader is good. they are all cunts. and just to let you know American goverment today is like the old soviet communist union.
invade some poor 3rd world country, make al ie that they have nuclear weapons and drain em of oil
People always assume that pedofiles like boys, with no proof behind it. In my eyes that only seems to be an excuse to say that gay people are pedophiles and rapists.
@PrivateAckbar I don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about. I wrote that comment 2 years ago. I never claimed that peadophilia has to do with sexuality. What I'm guessing I was trying to say was that he was attracted to little girls - as an answer to someone who called the movie's protagonist gay. As in, you can be gay and a pedophile, but not all pedophiles are gay. Which the woodsman isn't (gay, I mean).
@Sniibul You were arguing that the people who assume paedophiles like boys are being homophobic in some way. I'm telling you that those people know more than you. Paedophilia has nothing to do with sexuality. It isn't an attraction to a sex, it's an attraction to children. Do you understand now? A paedophiles attraction to children isn't gay or straight.
@PrivateAckbar What I meant was that a pedophile can still have sex-oriented preferences. That is backed up by the World Health Organization. "Paedophilia: A sexual preference for children, boys or girls or both, usually of prepubertal or early pubertal age. " Unless I misread it. Google it.
@Sniibul That quote you just used backs up my argument. If you can't see that you probably are misreading it. Do you at least see now that when a movie depicts paedophiles as attracted to boys, it isn't homophobic?
@PrivateAckbar I don't know where I said that a pedophile can't be attracted to boys. I was saying that NOT ALL pedophiles might like boys. Or is that wrong as well? I am done with this discussion now.
@Sniibul If our culture doesn't think its wrong or sexually perverted that those infamous female pedophile school teachers like Mary Kay Letourneau, Debra Lafave and Pamela Rogers have repeated sex with their prepubesant male students, then it can't be wrong if an older man wants to have sex with 13 year old girls or 13 year old boys.
It cannot be one-sided or a double standard, if we aren't gonna punish female predators, then its only fair we don't punish male predators as well.
@MultiManmade Nothing I have said was related to what you just said. My personal opinion though: all pedophiles are pedophiles, females as well as male. There is no difference. Don't give a fuck what your culture thinks. That's my opinion. Now leave me the fuck alone.
@PrivateAckbar "It isn't an attraction to a sex, it's an attraction to children. Do you understand now? A paedophiles attraction to children isn't gay or straight."
Ok but thats not the same arguement that people have whenever its a female teacher in a sexual relationship with a 13 year old male student. When a 25 year old female is having sex with a 13 year old male student, nobody calls it pedophilia or rape, they call it a love story. But its never the case with a grownman.
@Sniibul You really don't understand this. You say you "never claimed that paedophilia has to do with sexuality" then you do it again in the same paragraph. When you try to use logic to say that "not all paedophiles are gay" you're connecting sexuality with peadophilia. The attraction to children has nothing to do with their sex.
@PrivateAckbar Fine, you know what? I was only expressing an opinion. In what way can you back up what you are saying? Yes, pedophilia by definition is attraction to children. It is not known as a sexuality. I am separating the two in the same way I would separate a persons fetish for elderly people (although fetishes and pedophilia are of course not the same) from their sexuality.
Yes, I get heated when talking about pedophilia. In my opinion it is the most gruesome act that can be comitted next to murder.
I just do not think that saying "It is not their fault" is the answer, as I stated above. I would like to know who's fault it is. Is it the victims?
As far as the gay issue original post was something about how pedophiles and gays have no control over what they are. I did not want to adress the gay issue so I tried to isolate the pedophile issue.
@Jarederaj "i actually feel sorry for people who are attracted to little kids because
its not their fault.
kinda like gay people."
Your 100% right its not their fault and couldn't agree more, just like our society doesn't think its wrong either when a 26 year old women has repeated multiple sex with a 13 year old male. I hate hypocrisy and i hate double standards, if we are gonna give those female predators a slapp on the wrist, then its only fair we do the same for male predators
ONCE AGAIN - STATISTICALLY: If you drive a car to and from work 5 days a week, then your more likely to kill a child than a ped. A childs OWN PARENTS are more likely to murder them than a stranger! And on, and on, and on with the numbers that don't lie. Everybody's responding to the latest in "Public fear through media - vote for me and I'll get tough on crime and ask for a budget increase so you'll think I'm protecting you and your children while ignoring the more serious dangers they face."
Reminds me of the story of Yvette Cloete, a paediatrician in Newport, Wales, who came home to find that some tabloid-reading moron had spray-painted 'paedo' on her front door...
I have beaten the living shit out of pedophiles in my time... people that have abused innocent children.. but sometimes..NOT always but SOMETIMES.... people that did the deed, and paid the price for their crime and want to start over.... can't do so.
Wow violence really is the answer. You should be very proud, or wait. . maybe you just lowered yourself to the level of the same monster you are trying to 'teach a lesson too'. Interesting. I think pedophiles should be locked away. I always think the violent assholes who take the law into their own hands should be locked away.
and I agree that locking them away doesn't solve it it merely makes them more bitter and hateful towards the world I think to stop them doing it you need to go to the root of the problem of why they are doing it in the first place locking them up serves no purpose other than to create a false sense of security
you realise to see how civilised a society is they look at how that society treats it's worst prisoners the better they are treated the more civilised they are the worse the less civilised they are
I never thought I could feel compassion for a pedophile until I saw this feel. Now prior to seeing this I would have flipped reading that comment, but watch this film and you will understand. Kevind Bacon should have recieved the award for this.
incredible film. Kevin bacons performance is more or less flawless. shocking and moving. excellent movie but i fear that not everyone will understand it.
I really want to see this now...I love that it has Kevin and Kyra in it. I actually just found out recently that they've been married for like...20 years. Crazy!
This is like 120p.
aPeacefulCitizen 2 weeks ago
I have to admit, the prospect of even seeing this movie initially creeped me out, but everyone from Ebert & Roeper to Howard Stern raved about it. I may just have to toughen up and watch it for myself. Lee Daniels is a great director, that's for sure.
JWFernel 2 months ago
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Best movie ever!!
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Thelefthandwarrior 2 months ago
Esiste in italiano?
kiararlovemsn 4 months ago
Amazing Movie.
CR7SL 5 months ago
@LIVEMeltdown4ROCK "I don't care how "sorry" these freaks are - the moment anyone so much as thinks that way is the moment they've signrd their own death warrent! Round them up and kill them all! they are worse than Nazis and Terrorists combined!"
Do you think you would be sticking to this same position if the gender roles were reversed?? No you wouldn't, if this had been a 26 year old female teacher pursuing a sexual relationship with a 13 year old boy, you would not have a problem with it.
MultiManmade 5 months ago
I'm sorry there is nothing wrong with this Charactor that Kevin Bacon is playing in this movie, he seems to like underage 12 year old girls which its ok in my book since our double standard culture allows older females to have sex with minors and then call it a "love affair"
But if a grownman has sex with a minor, everyone freaks out and call it rape and pedophilia, this is hypocrisy and adouble standard at its finest that needs to be repelled
MultiManmade 5 months ago
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@OceanicMetal "You are the most idiotic baffoon i have ever read - a pedo cannot be trusted, tolerated nor allowed to live - kill the pedo and you save so many innocent lives in exchange for a waste of space one of natures mistakes"
Hmmm thats funny, that wouldn't be the same arguement you'd be sticking to if the gender roels were reversed. If this had been Nichole Kidman playing a child molestor in this movie having sex with a 13 year old, you wouldn't have a problem with that.
MultiManmade 5 months ago
Does anyone who has seen the movie, know the song that was playing when Walter meets his sister?
lolagepwnageownge 5 months ago
i bet he molested some kids. Eve won an award for this movie as Best Actress
breybrey2dajizzay 5 months ago
Did anyone notice the Woodsman is the character who saves Little Red Riding Hood from the wolf? Do you think this is a metaphor for the duality that exists within the main character? Both sexual predator and hero, fighting against one-another in an internal psychological battle?
Murdamuffin 6 months ago
@Murdamuffin no fuckin shit the woodsman is the character who saves little red riding hood. Mos def has a whole fuckin scene about that.
shegwin 6 months ago
I wouldn't mind being molested by Kevin Bacon
ThePonsor911 8 months ago 2
@ThePonsor911 although you just meant to be funny, please stay away from jokes like that in an area like this one. it might just hurt more people than you think.
LusiBamboszka 6 months ago
@LusiBamboszka So?
ThePonsor911 6 months ago
@ThePonsor911 Kevin bacon playing a child molestor in this movie isn't anything wrong, after all this should be made a love story. Thats what they do whenever there is a female teacher sex scandal with a minor having sex. There cannot be a double standard, either we punish both male and female predators or we flatout don't punish neither genders to be fair.
MultiManmade 5 months ago
@travpoet - assuming someone you have never met hasn't experienced what you are indicating is pretty insular. Despite my childhood of abuse and violence, I hold steadfast to my stated opinion. I don't let my anger and hurt from such experiences fuel any base desires such as mob hatred or eye-for-an-eye justice. Violence begets violence...it is not and never will be the solution.
Murdamuffin 8 months ago 3
First off, amazing movie. I'm angry about a couple things though. Not the movie itself, it's nearly flawless. my problem is that Kevin Bacon was totally snubbed by the academy. How was he not nominated for this? Really? What's even worse is Kevin Bacon has NEVER been nominated for an oscar. I don't get how an actor this good doesnt even have an oscar nomination (at the very least)
Themanwhoisabadass 9 months ago 2
@Themanwhoisabadass Hollywood REALLY fucked up by not giving him the oscar!!! 99.9% of actors would NEVER even have the balls to play the role!!
9timm9 8 months ago 2
@9timm9 "Hollywood REALLY fucked up by not giving him the oscar!!! 99.9% of actors would NEVER even have the balls to play the role!!"
I don't see how anybody wouldn't have the balls to play a child molestor in a movie when nobody seems to have a problem with it whenever a female school teacher in her 20's and 30's is out having multiple repeated sex with a minor. And whenever a female teacher has sex with a student, everyone claims it to be a love story while she gets media coverage.
MultiManmade 5 months ago
5stars...
DynastyQg9 9 months ago
Could someone upload more clips from this movie?
kholman1994 10 months ago
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@kholman1994 you can watch it online :)
redbunnyx3x 7 months ago
Quite possibly the BRAVEST performance in cinema HISTORY...
9timm9 1 year ago 20
@9timm9
I agree, I recommend this film to many people when having a pedo mob hatred debate. It really changed my views...I used to have the 'cut off their balls and leave em all on an island" mentality. Not after this film though.
Murdamuffin 1 year ago 2
@Murdamuffin There is some hope / intelligence out there after all, LOL!
9timm9 1 year ago
@Murdamuffin - if your childhood was like mine, you wouldn't say that. Easy to say when it hasn't happened to you.
travpoet 10 months ago
I never thought I would feel sympathy for a Paedophile but then I watched this film. This film has instantly become one of my favourite movies of all time, Kevin Bacon was marvellous in this film and should have received a reward for this. Paedophilia can often be classified as a disease and I think this film justifies that. It's one of those movies that will sit in the back of your mind for weeks on end..
Nintendoman15 1 year ago
@OceanicMetal
Because some men with a foot fetish prey upon sleeping girls or kidnap them off the street and rape their feet. Point is..a fetish is a fetish. It's the individual that acts it out that separates themselves from the flock. I'd certainly agree when a pedophilia fetish is acted out, then more harm is caused than another one, but the point remains there could be millions that don't act it out, but that one that does causes you and others to say "kill them all".
Ikarimalice 1 year ago
@OceanicMetal
And I'd fully agree. My stance is firmly on those who haven't done anything. I called it a witch hunt because it's drenched in paranoia and "thought crime". People act as if a pedophilia fetish is a guarantee that the person will act on it eventually. This simply isn't true. For those that do act on it..by all means, maim and slaughter away.
Ikarimalice 1 year ago
@OceanicMetal
And when does it stop? Why not target foot fetishists as well? Or how about all sexually charged people in general? Since, after all, the only thing preventing a pedophile from molesting a child is the same willpower that prevents any normal guy from raping a woman. There's a lot more pedophiles out there than you seem to realize, and the vast majority never act on their desires in any form at all.
Ikarimalice 1 year ago
@OceanicMetal
The problem with that is you're not talking about someone who catches some disease and will then transmit that to everyone around him or her. Psychologically speaking, if we could decipher why a fetish develops and then mold an adolescent to prevent that fetish from developing, then I'm sure we'd do it. The issue is this is a human being. A human being who doesn't choose his or her fetishes, and until they act it out are 100% innocent. There's no certainty a pedophile wil act
Ikarimalice 1 year ago
@OceanicMetal
How very Salem of you. No, I am not. I am, however, educated and understand that a fetish is a fetish. Yes a pedophile "wants to" touch children just as a man with a serious hair fetish will "want to" touch and caress hair, but it does not mean the pedophile will actually do it. So again, I am not perverted but I do believe in innocent until actually guilty of something and I do not believe in witch hunts.
Ikarimalice 1 year ago
@OceanicMetal
You're extremely ignorant. I understand the hatred against someone who touches a child, but what about those who don't, but want to? Pedophilia is a fetish. This film attempts to portray it for what it is. It's not meant to support pedophilia; it's meant to show that a pedophile is a person with a fetish they CAN NOT CONTROL. And mind you, by "control" I mean they can not control having the fetish, and most certainly I do not mean can not control their actions around it
Ikarimalice 1 year ago
pedos are people.
isthisnameabittolong 1 year ago
@LIVEMeltdown4ROCK saying all pedos are a risk to children and rape and stalk children is like saying that all straight men are a risk to women and they all rape and stalk women.
isthisnameabittolong 1 year ago
The best film I've seen in many years.
Touching, disturbing and sad.
TheSharkPool 1 year ago 8
This film was brilliant! kudos to KB for even taking this part on, takes guts to even deal with this kind of subject. An actor of actors, love Kevin Bacon
atlasshrugged2u 1 year ago
@atlasshrugged2u He paid for it in part!
raoulthompson 1 year ago
@raoulthompson how so? did he get flack or something.
atlasshrugged2u 1 year ago
@atlasshrugged2u "This film was brilliant! kudos to KB for even taking this part on, takes guts to even deal with this kind of subject. An actor of actors, love Kevin Bacon"
I don't think it takes guts for someone like Kevin Bacon to play a child molestor in this movie. You wanna know why?? For the same reason why Nichole Kidman didn't have a problem playing a female child molestor in that one movie of hers where she had sex with a teen boy. There cannot be a double standard
MultiManmade 5 months ago
@MultiManmade You didn't get my point. I don't care about Nicole Kidman and what she did. K.B. is a hell of an actor and this movie was not recieved well at all, but the subject needed to be addressed and it was offered to alot of actors who turned it down...he an his wife took it on and had peope look at it from the child molesters point of view. It was an excellent movie and he was brave to take the role.
atlasshrugged2u 2 months ago
this movie was filmed in the park across the street from my house
Whatevergrrr 1 year ago
Whats the name of the song starting 00:25. Its in the intro for the film as well.
IricForset 1 year ago
Many focus on the taboo of pedophilia. clever piece of acting from Kevin Bacon. Another side of the story through the eyes of Walter...
xzibit4live 1 year ago
I hate pedophiles and I think they should be punished badly for what they've done and sent away from civilization. But this movie is great. It shows clearly, that also pedophiles can retain themselves from doing those horrible things to children, only for their pleasure. Kevin Bacon did a great job in this movie.
But I can't find theme song anywhere. Do you know where I can find it? :/
vers111 1 year ago
@vers111 Hey its called At the fairground. Check the sountrack for this film. I have no clue how to get it, I think its owned by Opus 1 Music. Good luck, let me know if you get it. Thanks.
IricForset 1 year ago
this film was produced by Lee Daniels who BTW directed Precious and Shadowboxer, produced Monster's Ball and Tennessee, so you know there's a like a real world connection in this film and that's what made this film as well as all his other films great
wrightbrooks 1 year ago
This is not a bleeding-heart "feel sorry for the criminal" movie...good thing i found this movie online at
EasyMediaClick (dot) com
waylandgall 2 years ago
amazing film. i love seeing the shades of gray in a world of black and white.
SaraHalpertxoxo 2 years ago 6
Great comment. That's exactly it.
d245470k 2 years ago
@SaraHalpertxoxo Agreed, most people are too lazy / close-minded to attempt to...
9timm9 1 year ago 2
Pedophilia! understanding that adults enjoy having intercourse or molesting children.... umm questionable.. there is no cure or justification for this sort of behavior. Pedophilia is a crime... and should be punished as such...Forgiving the perpetrator is up to the victim not the relatives or friends... forgiveness is key to a life of peace, but only the child can do that since only the child was there to suffer the pain, the shame and the humiliation and depravity these people did to them.
ladyteora 2 years ago
It is a state of mind though, its like you or me wanting to have sex with our girlfriend/boyfriend, the physical attraction is the same, its a mental illness and you have to feel sorry for these people. Usually they will know they have the problem for years and fight it eventually giving in, although granted those who know about their issue should seek professional help, but sometimes its just not enough.
CandlesInADaze 2 years ago
@CandlesInADaze would u want to go to a doctor and say, im a pedophile, i love children sexually?
acejacko23 2 years ago
@acejacko23 If I felt that way about children It would be a far better thing to seek help than to hurt a child. So yes, I would.
CandlesInADaze 2 years ago
@ladyteora ". Pedophilia is a crime... and should be punished as such...Forgiving the perpetrator is up to the victim not the relatives or friends..."
Oh waite a minute here, how is this a crime that this man in this movie is attracted to underage girls?? For the same exact reason why nobody see's it as a crime or s sign of rape when a 34 year old female school teacher by the name of Mary Kay Letourneau was having sex with a 13 year old male student named Vili Fallau
MultiManmade 5 months ago
The best part of the movie is when Kevin Bacon beats up the nonce towards the end. And Mos Def knows he did it but lets him go : )
Critchy39 2 years ago
Also the scene where he doesn't give in to the temptation and manages to overcome it...then beats the shit out of that asshole.
darthroden 2 years ago
It is a fucking CRIME that Kevin Bacon was not nominated for Best Actor for this performance!!! I cannot believe that ultra-liberal Hollywood could not make that happen!! Even THEY were scared of the subject matter!! I have a great friend who made the mistake of having a sexual relationship with a 15 yr old female, he did 10 yrs probation, got his Bachelor's Degree in that time & now makes over $100,000 a yr. He has proven himself REPEATEDLY, yet STILL has to register for life! PATHETIC!!
9timm9 2 years ago 5
@9timm9 How old was he at the time?
EmoraChan13 1 year ago
@EmoraChan13 He was 32-33...he realized the hard way that he had a weakness & did not stop her advances toward him because at the time, he had the emotional maturity (in some ways) of a teenager himself. This is a REAL psychological issue in the world & NOT something that is BLACK & WHITE! Unfortunately, some people with this condition cannot & will not ever be able to control themselves, BUT this friend of mine is a PRIME EXAMPLE of somebody who made a mistake & has PROVEN himself.
9timm9 1 year ago
@9timm9 I wasn't going to bash your friend. o.o I understand that for some, it is beyond attraction, abuse, and/or maturity.
EmoraChan13 1 year ago
@EmoraChan13 In addition (for what it's worth), a "PEDOPHILE" is medically diagnosed as sombody who EXCLUSIVELY has a sexual interest in people aged 13 and under...which would definitely disqualify my friend from ever being described with that term...
9timm9 1 year ago
@9timm9 "It is a fucking CRIME that Kevin Bacon was not nominated for Best Actor for this performance!!! "
Amen to that and your right about that, lets also not forget something that Nichole Kidman played a female child molestor in that movie having sex with a teenage boy and nobody freaked out about that. It was veiwed as a love story rather than pedophilia. But yet when its Kevin Bacon playing a role of a pedophile , everyone freaks out and thinks its rape. Give me a f_cking break
MultiManmade 5 months ago
This looks like an amazing movie.
mescatraz32 2 years ago
To dignam419 - The point here is not to excuse pedophilia as something we should accept or tolerate, but it is important to realize pedophiles are people who (in most cases) have real issues that cannot be overcome as a result of others hating, or abusing them. If you wish to help combat the consequences of pedophilia, I suggest first taking a real interest in understanding it, rather than simply being angry.
Jonesyjr85 2 years ago 2
Great post, and yes I get emotionally involved when talking about pedophilia.
I also realize that the people have deep rooted issues. It just seems to me that this dark and evil act should not be excused because of their past.
dignam419 2 years ago
Just because we know the cause does not excuse the effect.
dignam419 2 years ago
I love this film, it's one of my favorites.
playidd76 2 years ago
@playidd76 best drama ever, i love drama, nice and relaxed and actually means something.
acejacko23 2 years ago
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@acejacko23 " best drama ever, i love drama, nice and relaxed and actually means something."
Amen to that and i couldn't agree with you more, this movie should be a love story rather than people veiwing this as rape and pedophilia. Lets also not forget how people veiwed that movie as a love story called "The summer of 42" where a 20 something year old women was in a sexual relationship with a 15-16 year old male student. It cannot be a one-sided double standard.
MultiManmade 5 months ago
Great film, and if her performance here is any indication, Hannah Pilkes is destined for great things.
beowulven 2 years ago
i'm not gonna comment on political views and crap, i'm gonna coment on how gd the film looks. i really wanna see it!! i love kevin bacon =)
musicmaster1011 2 years ago
footloose
gogomonique07 2 years ago
One of the best films in the last few years! Amazing acting, Highly recommended! Go rent it today.
Scarybear 2 years ago
I want to watch this does anyone have it or know where to see it?
meghanscotti 2 years ago
the internet.
use it.
kiltedyaksman11 2 years ago
Kevin Bacon got screwed. I've never thought of him as more than an average to decent actor, but he was absolutely phenomenal in this. That's a crime that he wasn't nominated for best actor.
smoke117 2 years ago 5
@smoke117 "Kevin Bacon got screwed. I've never thought of him as more than an average to decent actor, but he was absolutely phenomenal in this. That's a crime that he wasn't nominated for best actor."
If this had been Sarah Jessica Parker or Denise Richards playing this part as a child molestor having sex with 13 year old boys in this movie the woodsman, Guarantee she wouldn't have gotten screwed and nobody would have looked at this as rape or pedophilia. Its a double standard.
MultiManmade 5 months ago
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Fucking disgusting. How could you feel any sympathy for this disgusting pervert. You sick fucks!
PeopleAllergy 3 years ago
locking them up has no effect other than a false sense of security and capital punishment is just vengeance which gets you nowhere in life I'm not saying I have sympathy for what they do but to stop them doing it you need to get to the root of the problem kill them and jailing them isn't solving the problem not one little bit
drinkyourtea 2 years ago 6
This looks like a movie that would piss me off. Hard Candy was freaking AWESOME. I hope it ends like that movie.
TheDorkVariety 3 years ago
i actually feel sorry for people who are attracted to little kids because
its not their fault.
kinda like gay people.
Jarederaj 3 years ago 6
me too as long as they dont practice their fantasies..because unlike gayness, pedophilia can hurt people
BornToDie90 3 years ago 3
@BornToDie90 gayness can, anul sex must hurt.
acejacko23 2 years ago
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Don't want to be a dick, but that is bullshit. Soceity has warped your mind so that even child rapist and pedophiles are not responsible for their own actions. I dont believe that for a second...everyone needs to stop making excuses and execptions for bad behavior...I mean who's fault would it be if not the man who is attracted to litte kids?
P.S. I am addressing the kid attraction issue not the gay issue.
dignam419 2 years ago
i understand where you're comming from but i still disagree but i know what you mean.
Jarederaj 2 years ago
The gay issue? What gay issue?
Scarybear 2 years ago
i think it comes from the fact that christians belive that like God, we need to forgive evryone
bigrob3392 2 years ago 9
Your an idiot.
CandlesInADaze 2 years ago
how, i was raised christian so i know. ive been going to catholic school all my life so....
bigrob3392 2 years ago
It's nothing to do with 'Christianity' believing that everyone shall be forgiven that society is letting so many people off, if anything Christians are seen as more right and radical now days. If anyone is to blame it is definitely the liberals - who are usually atheist.
CandlesInADaze 2 years ago
@CandlesInADaze u are retarded arent you? liberals and fucking politics. it istn the party its the fucking man leading the party. if ur sick of ur stinking american goverment, join the military then become a politition yourself. but the truth is not one fucking political leader is good. they are all cunts. and just to let you know American goverment today is like the old soviet communist union.
invade some poor 3rd world country, make al ie that they have nuclear weapons and drain em of oil
ditdatdot 2 years ago
@ditdatdot I'm not the one who can't spell. So don't call me fucking retarded. I'm not American either, you tit.
CandlesInADaze 2 years ago
that was possibly the dumbest youtube comment i ever read. and i fucking read every comment under every "cute kitteh" video
you have absolutely no fucking idea how fucking stupid you are.
cracknigga 2 years ago
retard
cracknigga 2 years ago
Gay? He is attracted to little GIRLS.
People always assume that pedofiles like boys, with no proof behind it. In my eyes that only seems to be an excuse to say that gay people are pedophiles and rapists.
Sniibul 2 years ago 34
@Sniibul You have topsy turvy logic. Peadophilia has nothing to do with sexuality.
PrivateAckbar 5 months ago
@PrivateAckbar I don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about. I wrote that comment 2 years ago. I never claimed that peadophilia has to do with sexuality. What I'm guessing I was trying to say was that he was attracted to little girls - as an answer to someone who called the movie's protagonist gay. As in, you can be gay and a pedophile, but not all pedophiles are gay. Which the woodsman isn't (gay, I mean).
Sniibul 5 months ago
@Sniibul You were arguing that the people who assume paedophiles like boys are being homophobic in some way. I'm telling you that those people know more than you. Paedophilia has nothing to do with sexuality. It isn't an attraction to a sex, it's an attraction to children. Do you understand now? A paedophiles attraction to children isn't gay or straight.
PrivateAckbar 5 months ago
@PrivateAckbar What I meant was that a pedophile can still have sex-oriented preferences. That is backed up by the World Health Organization. "Paedophilia: A sexual preference for children, boys or girls or both, usually of prepubertal or early pubertal age. " Unless I misread it. Google it.
Sniibul 5 months ago
@Sniibul That quote you just used backs up my argument. If you can't see that you probably are misreading it. Do you at least see now that when a movie depicts paedophiles as attracted to boys, it isn't homophobic?
PrivateAckbar 5 months ago
@PrivateAckbar I don't know where I said that a pedophile can't be attracted to boys. I was saying that NOT ALL pedophiles might like boys. Or is that wrong as well? I am done with this discussion now.
Sniibul 5 months ago
@Sniibul I don't know why you're getting upset. If you thought 2+2=5 and I told you it was 4 would you be angry?
PrivateAckbar 5 months ago
@Sniibul If our culture doesn't think its wrong or sexually perverted that those infamous female pedophile school teachers like Mary Kay Letourneau, Debra Lafave and Pamela Rogers have repeated sex with their prepubesant male students, then it can't be wrong if an older man wants to have sex with 13 year old girls or 13 year old boys.
It cannot be one-sided or a double standard, if we aren't gonna punish female predators, then its only fair we don't punish male predators as well.
MultiManmade 5 months ago
@MultiManmade Nothing I have said was related to what you just said. My personal opinion though: all pedophiles are pedophiles, females as well as male. There is no difference. Don't give a fuck what your culture thinks. That's my opinion. Now leave me the fuck alone.
Sniibul 5 months ago
@PrivateAckbar "It isn't an attraction to a sex, it's an attraction to children. Do you understand now? A paedophiles attraction to children isn't gay or straight."
Ok but thats not the same arguement that people have whenever its a female teacher in a sexual relationship with a 13 year old male student. When a 25 year old female is having sex with a 13 year old male student, nobody calls it pedophilia or rape, they call it a love story. But its never the case with a grownman.
MultiManmade 5 months ago
@Sniibul You really don't understand this. You say you "never claimed that paedophilia has to do with sexuality" then you do it again in the same paragraph. When you try to use logic to say that "not all paedophiles are gay" you're connecting sexuality with peadophilia. The attraction to children has nothing to do with their sex.
PrivateAckbar 5 months ago
@PrivateAckbar Fine, you know what? I was only expressing an opinion. In what way can you back up what you are saying? Yes, pedophilia by definition is attraction to children. It is not known as a sexuality. I am separating the two in the same way I would separate a persons fetish for elderly people (although fetishes and pedophilia are of course not the same) from their sexuality.
Sniibul 5 months ago
Yes, I get heated when talking about pedophilia. In my opinion it is the most gruesome act that can be comitted next to murder.
I just do not think that saying "It is not their fault" is the answer, as I stated above. I would like to know who's fault it is. Is it the victims?
As far as the gay issue original post was something about how pedophiles and gays have no control over what they are. I did not want to adress the gay issue so I tried to isolate the pedophile issue.
dignam419 2 years ago
@Jarederaj "i actually feel sorry for people who are attracted to little kids because
its not their fault.
kinda like gay people."
Your 100% right its not their fault and couldn't agree more, just like our society doesn't think its wrong either when a 26 year old women has repeated multiple sex with a 13 year old male. I hate hypocrisy and i hate double standards, if we are gonna give those female predators a slapp on the wrist, then its only fair we do the same for male predators
MultiManmade 5 months ago
ONCE AGAIN - STATISTICALLY: If you drive a car to and from work 5 days a week, then your more likely to kill a child than a ped. A childs OWN PARENTS are more likely to murder them than a stranger! And on, and on, and on with the numbers that don't lie. Everybody's responding to the latest in "Public fear through media - vote for me and I'll get tough on crime and ask for a budget increase so you'll think I'm protecting you and your children while ignoring the more serious dangers they face."
TheFirstSecond 3 years ago 3
Reminds me of the story of Yvette Cloete, a paediatrician in Newport, Wales, who came home to find that some tabloid-reading moron had spray-painted 'paedo' on her front door...
Sangrenegra9 2 years ago
It's wacko sentencing like 16 will get you 20 that has created the motive for so many sickos to escalate sex to murder.
No child molester or rapist should ever be afraid to let the victim live to tell.
latsonalir 3 years ago
I have beaten the living shit out of pedophiles in my time... people that have abused innocent children.. but sometimes..NOT always but SOMETIMES.... people that did the deed, and paid the price for their crime and want to start over.... can't do so.
DieYuppieSkum 3 years ago
that makes you an uncivilised brute a truly civil society does not treat it's worst prisoners in that fashion
drinkyourtea 3 years ago 11
HA HA HA HA... I laugh at you for even remotely thinking we are a "civilized" society
DieYuppieSkum 2 years ago
I never said society was civilized I was saying most outsiders to a society judge how civilized a society is by how they treat their worst criminals
drinkyourtea 2 years ago
Wow violence really is the answer. You should be very proud, or wait. . maybe you just lowered yourself to the level of the same monster you are trying to 'teach a lesson too'. Interesting. I think pedophiles should be locked away. I always think the violent assholes who take the law into their own hands should be locked away.
jonathanjoey 3 years ago
first off you missed my point, second off locking them away does not solve the problem.
DieYuppieSkum 2 years ago 3
and I agree that locking them away doesn't solve it it merely makes them more bitter and hateful towards the world I think to stop them doing it you need to go to the root of the problem of why they are doing it in the first place locking them up serves no purpose other than to create a false sense of security
drinkyourtea 2 years ago 2
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Typically dangerous, liberal ,hollywood bullshit agenda ! Trying to make people feel compassion for a pedophile!
I don't care about a child molester's point of view!
To all you people who got teary eyed over this movie, ask yourself a question;
would you let a scumbag like that baby sit your children?
bro9990 3 years ago
1st of all, thanks for ruining the movie. 2nd, shut the fuck up with all your nonconformist bullshit and ranting that no one cares about.
Jessewadeeee 3 years ago 6
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1st of all...nonconformist!Absolutely...........I will never conform to the idea of a Child Molester having redemption! never!
Shut the fuck up with all your dangerous Pedophilia loving conformist bullshit and ranting that no one cares about.
bro9990 3 years ago
...and yet you still babble
guess the fact that I don't like having my movies ruined makes me a pedo-lover
psst. it's a movie bud
the best ones piss people off ;]
Jessewadeeee 3 years ago 2
you realise to see how civilised a society is they look at how that society treats it's worst prisoners the better they are treated the more civilised they are the worse the less civilised they are
drinkyourtea 3 years ago 2
Quite true. Dostoevsky said that after doing time in prison himself.
Sangrenegra9 2 years ago
the ending was very endearing.
birdswithoutthebees 3 years ago
Anybody know the name of the song towards the end of the trailer?
ErickWithNoK 3 years ago
it aint easy pimpin for a true player
dloeil 3 years ago
I never thought I could feel compassion for a pedophile until I saw this feel. Now prior to seeing this I would have flipped reading that comment, but watch this film and you will understand. Kevind Bacon should have recieved the award for this.
hynes0505 3 years ago 28
@hynes0505 the actors put up their salaries to make this. So incredible.
raoulthompson 1 year ago
I just rented this movie
gonna watch it later tonight :)
yournathan 3 years ago
was surprised how good a film this was considering the subject matter....my god Mos Def-how did I not know about this man?
weebluealien 3 years ago 4
mos def is a revelation in that film.
DiscoStorm 3 years ago
kevin bacon pwns
WudUp28 3 years ago
i scrolled down here and this was the 1st comment i saw and i quite agree!
futureradiochick 3 years ago
Kevin Bacon played a paedophile before in 'Sleepers'.
stevecooganfan 4 years ago
He played pederast!
Onico5 3 years ago 2
incredible film. Kevin bacons performance is more or less flawless. shocking and moving. excellent movie but i fear that not everyone will understand it.
GoGetCaper 4 years ago 24
the best film
artavia89 4 years ago 3
anyone know the title,artist of that song? 1:10
Kriziun 4 years ago
Who am i? From the animatrix soundtrack
cellulum 4 years ago
wow, incredible trailer. i love kevin bacon's performance.
geekoftheweek27 4 years ago
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hmp, the softer side of pedophiles.
how sweet
brokenbeauty321 4 years ago
I really want to see this now...I love that it has Kevin and Kyra in it. I actually just found out recently that they've been married for like...20 years. Crazy!
Hailo7788 4 years ago
awsome movie!
jthm180 4 years ago
This was a really great movie. Excellent drama.
megan22222003 4 years ago
I really need to see this film!
Im going to go buy it tomarrow.
megan22222003 4 years ago
What a preformance by Keven Bacon. And Mos Def too! Damn that was a good film. It really pushes you.
Cartesiantheater 4 years ago 5
His best performance, in the best drama!
ThomasRedfield 5 years ago
this was a really good movie
Julia20 5 years ago 2