The nose of a 767, the wings of a dc3, the tail of a contellation, and we sold it to japan? it is always the same story....lets sell our stuff to other countries.
Long time ago my old man found a DC-3, it was far from flying again, but dad wanted to "fix-it-up" and take vacations in it. Thank God he never got around to it. It would be sitting in the field where he had 2 Hudson Hornets, a model T, an old broken down fire-truck and LOTS of rust. Pop had big ideas, but few follow throughs.
Being a fourth-generation 'Daytonian' (Dayton, OH.) and living less than one mile off the end of the main runway at Wright Field (now WPAFB, OH.), I can remember seeing much experimental aircraft as a young child. Up to the the B-36, I remember seeing them taking off - like they were coming right up our street! Almost all experimental (or otherwise) aircraft of the day was at Wright Field, including this one - flew from Wright Field over Dayton June 9, 1939, with Wilbur Wright onboard.
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The airlines threw a bone at Douglas trying to generate some competition...but every lockheed model...the 749 the 1049 the Super Connie....besides commercial: We were flying these things right up into the 80s with our military.
Douglas should have saved their money. 100 thousand each from a bunch of airline execs was chicken feed.
Go back to the 29 sec mark and look at the cars in the parking lot. They are just as monotonous looking as cars today. They all looked alike. It was not that way back in the 1950's. Then there were bright colours and those god-forsaken tail fins. At least you'd never confuse a Pontiac with a Mercury or an Oldsmobile. The airplane looks like an overweight Lockheed Constellation.
You're right on this one - lol! Guess that's what holds down the cost - make most everything 'universal' - just like IBM-clone computers, huh? This is why it's easy, in a parking lot, to get into a Lexus instead of your own Camry. I drive an '06 Accord EX-L V6 Coupe, 'cause it's a lot less seen than it's 'relative', the Accord sedan (every other car on the road is one!) but even it doesn't have the excitement of those '50's and '60's autos - big fins (Chrysler products), etc.!!
interesting how this this plane and connie had that same look. dihedral and triple vertical stabilizers. beautiful if you ask me. connie's fuselage wins though : )
My father was on the Pan American team to evaluate the DC-4E in 1939 and rode on a full-passenger check ride. He rode near the front and was able to observe cockpit operations. The plane was sold to Japan by Douglas and was shot down by P-38s in 1944 while carrying a large contingent of high ranking Japanese military.
@peepeevagi or real shortsighted on our part. We were doing all kinds of trade to them in the years before WW2. Lots of scrap metal for example. People think Reagan invented the idea of giving goods to your enemy. Heck we've been doing it since we sold rifles to the American Indians!
Although an aircraft generally has semitrical right and left wings, (That's right, it can't fly without EITHER), this has nothing to do with right/left politics. Keep them outta here, and enjoy the history.
Great vid great music, but I would love to hear the roar of those engines on take off then turn the music up afterwards. There's something evocative about the engine sound of prop aircraft.
We tend to give away things which an enemy can use against us, like the DC-4E to the Japanese and the Rolls Royce Nene engine to the Russians (which they used in their MiG-15's). Now what else are we going to give away that's going to be used against us???
No. I disagree. First off, the post on the DC-4E is pre-WW2. Second, German scientists came to our side voluntarily after the war. Where do you get your information anyway?
For argument sake, suppose you are right, that is, if the "few" who did not volunteer to do this for the American side. Intellectual property "theft," as you allege, is not so bad as to be threatened with being associated with Nazi war crimes for aiding an enemy so heinous as to put to death several million Jews and spreading death and destruction in the name of a madman. You may not like it but the losers lost. It's not theft...its "reparations" for these crimes.
Pre-WW2, the US was a small player on the International Scene, Post War they were the Supreme Superpower, between Roosevelt and Churchill , the British Empire, German,French ,Italian, Russian and Japanese economies were artfully disenfrancised, basically their own 'stupid,fault, only Russia got through.
I wish we were still a small player. . . except for the war against Hitler & Imperial Japan, I think every war we've fought since 1898 was a waste of life and money.
Wrong Every German Scientist that could along with every German soldier that could worked his fanny off trying to get captured by the American and British over being captured by the Soviets. You know this. Its common knowledge. That makes YOU a LIAR.
True, in fact the vast majority of Germans at the time were not in any way Anti-American, they had something in common with the US in that there was huge anti-communist feelings in Germany. Also Germany wanted to steal Russian resources for their economic developement. They people paid a huge price for the politicians folly.
@brendonnz1964 Politicians come from the people, not the opposite. The german people accepted and promoted the nazi ideals: race superiority, revenge against France, irrestricted economic expantion by means of war.All understood as its natural destiny. Are ou an idiot or a bad intentioned person ?
"give away things" : IMHO this plane was sold: money against merchandise-the most basic approach in capitalism. blame the greedy shareholders of douglas if you wish.
Are there any interior photos of this aircraft? Would love to see the cockpit. Also,does any film footage exist of the Douglas DC-5?? This is another forgotten Douglas creation...only 12 built & as far as I know none survived.
You know what paranzoik? You have no respect for history. In case you dont remember me, you commented on the DC-3. You had said the same thing "" Why didnt you smash it up?"" thats what you said. I bet you are a gang member. Just knock it off.
very nice to see some video of this forgotten bird. too bad that we sold it japan...it should be in a museum,but who knew back then. I read that the pilot attempted a full flap landing with one engine out,& crashed into the water with several high ranking japanese officials on board,killing everyone...too bad
The nose of a 767, the wings of a dc3, the tail of a contellation, and we sold it to japan? it is always the same story....lets sell our stuff to other countries.
supersabrejet 2 days ago
It's a baby Connie!! :-)
neomuttley 2 months ago
It's the a380's granddad
emp29 3 months ago
@emp29
It is big enought to be a home.
applesweeter 3 months ago
No resemblence to the Nakajima whatsoever.
JetMechMA 5 months ago
At :35...Cheyenne? That's a LONG time ago.
JetMechMA 5 months ago
One MILLION dollars. LOL
JetMechMA 5 months ago
Long time ago my old man found a DC-3, it was far from flying again, but dad wanted to "fix-it-up" and take vacations in it. Thank God he never got around to it. It would be sitting in the field where he had 2 Hudson Hornets, a model T, an old broken down fire-truck and LOTS of rust. Pop had big ideas, but few follow throughs.
No, they aren't there anymore. Sorry.
oldfart387 5 months ago
Only pilots under age 35 could fly it! Anyone older couldn't handle three pieces of tail at the same time!
gto66solstice08 6 months ago
Amazing how much it resembled the Lockheed Constellation. Just not as streamlined as the Connie.
MouseGuns 7 months ago
@MouseGuns First thing I noticed, too! Love those Connies...heck, love the old props!
awkwarddude 2 months ago
Being a fourth-generation 'Daytonian' (Dayton, OH.) and living less than one mile off the end of the main runway at Wright Field (now WPAFB, OH.), I can remember seeing much experimental aircraft as a young child. Up to the the B-36, I remember seeing them taking off - like they were coming right up our street! Almost all experimental (or otherwise) aircraft of the day was at Wright Field, including this one - flew from Wright Field over Dayton June 9, 1939, with Wilbur Wright onboard.
sargebehr 8 months ago
Could you please tell me what the musical score from this video is, and is it available online (here at 'YouTube' or elsewhere)?
sargebehr 8 months ago
The wing configuration looks like it might have been based on the B-19
teenonator 9 months ago
Great video, many thanks for sharing!
billyguns2 9 months ago
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silvertiger333 11 months ago
none better than the Lockheed Constellation.
the 049 model had this beat in 1939.
The airlines threw a bone at Douglas trying to generate some competition...but every lockheed model...the 749 the 1049 the Super Connie....besides commercial: We were flying these things right up into the 80s with our military.
Douglas should have saved their money. 100 thousand each from a bunch of airline execs was chicken feed.
s6u6r6f6 1 year ago
none better than the Lockheed Constellation.
the 049 had this beat in 1944
s6u6r6f6 1 year ago
Didn't they eventually transform this design into the connie and super connie
santakart 1 year ago
Sold to the Japs? Wasn't there a trade embargo on Japan at the time, which led to the bombing of Pearl Harbour?
People must have been in awe of this aircraft when new. Then the airline companies chickened out of further development
Strawberry7Lynn 1 year ago
we were enovators. Man we were something.
jarl44 1 year ago
Go back to the 29 sec mark and look at the cars in the parking lot. They are just as monotonous looking as cars today. They all looked alike. It was not that way back in the 1950's. Then there were bright colours and those god-forsaken tail fins. At least you'd never confuse a Pontiac with a Mercury or an Oldsmobile. The airplane looks like an overweight Lockheed Constellation.
zeekwolfe 1 year ago
@zeekwolfe
You're right on this one - lol! Guess that's what holds down the cost - make most everything 'universal' - just like IBM-clone computers, huh? This is why it's easy, in a parking lot, to get into a Lexus instead of your own Camry. I drive an '06 Accord EX-L V6 Coupe, 'cause it's a lot less seen than it's 'relative', the Accord sedan (every other car on the road is one!) but even it doesn't have the excitement of those '50's and '60's autos - big fins (Chrysler products), etc.!!
sargebehr 8 months ago
i love watchin your vids
cheezyridr 1 year ago
to Bomberguy- got a kick out of the soundtrack- do you have a big swing library?
Ms11565 1 year ago
Gee, if they hadn't sold it to Japan, it might have grown up to be a Constellation. 8-)
NVanWendy 1 year ago
That's a cool plane to bad McDonnell Douglas got ran out of business by Boeing's greediness!
pianomanmaestro 1 year ago
interesting how this this plane and connie had that same look. dihedral and triple vertical stabilizers. beautiful if you ask me. connie's fuselage wins though : )
arias1772 1 year ago
very nice
dominicanoc 1 year ago
oh the irony
rggfgjerjh 1 year ago
It became an American-Japanese hybrid design! lol
CaptainAndrew1991 1 year ago
Kinda looks like its contemporary, the Lockheed Super Constellation.... just a little fatter I guess
ATSAT 2 years ago
it might have seemed like the A380 back in the day
stfergus608 2 years ago
5*****
megatwingo 2 years ago
Looks like a Connie
doulasc 2 years ago
@doulasc i like this plane better though
rggfgjerjh 1 year ago
My father was on the Pan American team to evaluate the DC-4E in 1939 and rode on a full-passenger check ride. He rode near the front and was able to observe cockpit operations. The plane was sold to Japan by Douglas and was shot down by P-38s in 1944 while carrying a large contingent of high ranking Japanese military.
BobW1972 2 years ago 2
Excellent!.
Nice bit of forward thinking coupled with long-term planning, well done you fighter jocks!.
twinstu50 2 years ago
Looks a LOT like the much later L-1011 passenger aircraft! A fine Democrat plane (just kidding!!) It really does look like an L-1011!
FieldStationBerlin 2 years ago
It looks a nice plane , more workmanlike than the Curvy Connie , pity it never went went any further !
skyraider200 2 years ago
The Connie was superior in every way...no point in building an inferior airplane.
ThunderAppeal 2 years ago
We sold it to japan and they turned it into a bomber? Yeah, real appreciative >.>
peepeevagi 2 years ago 8
@peepeevagi or real shortsighted on our part. We were doing all kinds of trade to them in the years before WW2. Lots of scrap metal for example. People think Reagan invented the idea of giving goods to your enemy. Heck we've been doing it since we sold rifles to the American Indians!
greenseaships 1 year ago
Nice Video. Some stupid political statements and clumsy lies by brendonnz1964
byron500 2 years ago
Boy, those Pratts sounds soooo sweeet
catman351 2 years ago
...one can create nice things for 200'000 $ ;-)
N9155E 2 years ago
Although an aircraft generally has semitrical right and left wings, (That's right, it can't fly without EITHER), this has nothing to do with right/left politics. Keep them outta here, and enjoy the history.
scubawrestler 2 years ago 3
Cool! U can really see the family resemblance to the DC-3 in the wings and forward fuselage. Great video *****
B70Valkyrie 2 years ago
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mariolover766 2 years ago
Obama is proving to be a liar, and has already broken most of his campaign "promises", only a few short month into his "presidency".
Dunno why you think that is so wonderful, aside from you must be an ignorant fool.
agentc73 2 years ago
5*****!
megatwingo 2 years ago
Great vid great music, but I would love to hear the roar of those engines on take off then turn the music up afterwards. There's something evocative about the engine sound of prop aircraft.
wozza59 3 years ago
Nice Video, Great Music, Nicely Done, I really enjoyed that Bomberguy!
victron6 3 years ago
The Singer is Kay Starr
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wow. :( this vid makes me so sad. some1 msg me!! xD 7I
onyxstar101 3 years ago
We tend to give away things which an enemy can use against us, like the DC-4E to the Japanese and the Rolls Royce Nene engine to the Russians (which they used in their MiG-15's). Now what else are we going to give away that's going to be used against us???
catman351 3 years ago 2
Actually,on interlectual property theft,our whole system since WW2 is from stolen German technical knowhow,you name it,it originated from Germany.
brendonnz1964 3 years ago
No. I disagree. First off, the post on the DC-4E is pre-WW2. Second, German scientists came to our side voluntarily after the war. Where do you get your information anyway?
catman351 3 years ago
Few did, most did not
brendonnz1964 3 years ago
For argument sake, suppose you are right, that is, if the "few" who did not volunteer to do this for the American side. Intellectual property "theft," as you allege, is not so bad as to be threatened with being associated with Nazi war crimes for aiding an enemy so heinous as to put to death several million Jews and spreading death and destruction in the name of a madman. You may not like it but the losers lost. It's not theft...its "reparations" for these crimes.
catman351 3 years ago
Pre-WW2, the US was a small player on the International Scene, Post War they were the Supreme Superpower, between Roosevelt and Churchill , the British Empire, German,French ,Italian, Russian and Japanese economies were artfully disenfrancised, basically their own 'stupid,fault, only Russia got through.
brendonnz1964 3 years ago
I wish we were still a small player. . . except for the war against Hitler & Imperial Japan, I think every war we've fought since 1898 was a waste of life and money.
matapan50 2 years ago
Wrong Every German Scientist that could along with every German soldier that could worked his fanny off trying to get captured by the American and British over being captured by the Soviets. You know this. Its common knowledge. That makes YOU a LIAR.
byron500 2 years ago
True, in fact the vast majority of Germans at the time were not in any way Anti-American, they had something in common with the US in that there was huge anti-communist feelings in Germany. Also Germany wanted to steal Russian resources for their economic developement. They people paid a huge price for the politicians folly.
brendonnz1964 2 years ago 6
@brendonnz1964 Politicians come from the people, not the opposite. The german people accepted and promoted the nazi ideals: race superiority, revenge against France, irrestricted economic expantion by means of war.All understood as its natural destiny. Are ou an idiot or a bad intentioned person ?
miguelmouta 1 day ago
"give away things" : IMHO this plane was sold: money against merchandise-the most basic approach in capitalism. blame the greedy shareholders of douglas if you wish.
N9155E 2 years ago
If I'm not mistaken, the DC-4E had its own U.S. Air Mail stamp. It was green and looked like money(!) Possibly a 2 cent post card stamp(?)
whizbang47 3 years ago
Are there any interior photos of this aircraft? Would love to see the cockpit. Also,does any film footage exist of the Douglas DC-5?? This is another forgotten Douglas creation...only 12 built & as far as I know none survived.
gooneybird47 4 years ago
BTW bomberguy, how did you get a MOVING picture next to ur name?
andreibf 4 years ago
Wow you are and idiot paranzoik.
andreibf 4 years ago
im not in no gang. that aint cool being in a gang and stabing each other. its stupid.
paranzoik 4 years ago
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if it was abandoned id of smashed it up
paranzoik 4 years ago
You know what paranzoik? You have no respect for history. In case you dont remember me, you commented on the DC-3. You had said the same thing "" Why didnt you smash it up?"" thats what you said. I bet you are a gang member. Just knock it off.
Jagger3939 4 years ago 2
GREAT Posts!! thanx so much...ex USAF here.
greenhornet59 4 years ago
To Bomberguy: As a former Eastern Airlines employee, that you for the detail and intersting information.
russellcase 4 years ago
So beautiful!
Hugs from Brazil
Rafael
rafaelguimaraes234 4 years ago
nice tune to that vid
burningsponge 4 years ago
Keep 'em coming, Bomberguy!
denberg2 4 years ago 3
Great posting as always the music please does any one the singer / band selected in accordance with American Swing music.
Excellenttttt FORDROAD AUSTRALIA.
fordroad 4 years ago 3
Glen Miller - Love with a capital U, don't know the singer. PM me if you want the website
Bomberguy 4 years ago
very nice to see some video of this forgotten bird. too bad that we sold it japan...it should be in a museum,but who knew back then. I read that the pilot attempted a full flap landing with one engine out,& crashed into the water with several high ranking japanese officials on board,killing everyone...too bad
gooneybird47 4 years ago
@Bomberguy
I'd like to pick up 'Love With A Capital U' by Glen Miller as played in theis (DC4E) video - know where I can get it online?
sargebehr 8 months ago
@fordroad Kay Starr.
isuckaman 7 months ago