Ragnar is one my ancestors. His (my) line ended up as one of the Norman nobles in France. They were given land and title in Shropshire after the conquest of England. My ancestors eventually emigrated from England to the US as Puritans in Massachusetts. We then moved across the US and ended up in Hutchinson, Kansas during the days of the wild west. I now live in Virginia.
@joonte1010 Björn conquered land in Sweden, but he was born in Denmark. Its all in The Saga Of Ragnar And His Sons, its a really cool book. His brother Ivar conquered York after Ragnar died there, King Aella threw him in a pit of vipers. You probably know that already.
@Tjalfi999 Björn never conquered anything in Sweden, He ruled Sweden after hes fathers(Ivar the Boneless) death He is burried in Sweden aswell. Hes grandfather was the ruler of Sweden(Sigurd Ring) while hes grandfathers uncle was the ruler of Denmark(Harald Wartooth). Sigurd Ring conquered denmark and thus ruled both Sweden and Denmark(He defeated the Danes in the battle of Brávellir), Ivar the Boneless later inherited the Swedish and Danish thrones.
@joonte1010 Yes, you are correct, Ragnar was of the Ynglinga Dynasty in Uppsala, but Ragnar ruled over Denmark only, until he conquered Sweden with his sons from King Eystein. Ivar later conquered England and ruled it until he died. As far as I remember from the saga, Björn wasn't ever the most important of Ragnar's sons, it was always Ivar and Sigurd Snake-eye who were the heroes (or villains, depending on how you look at it).
And Björn was the guy who led the hilarious Viking raid on Luna.
@Tjalfi999 Björn havent got much attention thats true, But thats because the Swedes themselves never wrote down about their own achievements unlike the Norwegians and Danes who made it sure for the afterworld to know everything they did. Björn did alot of things, he raided along the coasts everywhere through Western Europe down the the Meditterean and yes, He aimed for Rome but attacked the wrong city, Luna. It is a quite hilarious story hehe, it wasnt as fun for the Italians thou.
@Tjalfi999 Truthfully though, there isn't very much historical evidence for the life of Ragnar, it seems that he was a compilation of several Vikings by that name who all did things later ascribed to one Viking alone. Ivar the Boneless is the only one who has hard historical proof for his existence, and Sigurd Snake-eye is supposedly the father of Harald Fairhair, first king of Norway. So in any case Ragnar's descendants ended up ruling all of Scandinavia and Britain at some point in time.
@Tjalfi999 Thats true, You never know if these people ever excisted, Björn have excisted just like Ivar the Boneless. They have found what is belivied to be Björns burrial mound in Sweden, They havent excavetad it yet which is sad.. In fact they havent had a look at that many burrial mounds in Sweden at all, Would be interesting to see what hidden treasures it is there..
@joonte1010 Oh, you are right, Bjorn was considered a Swedish chieftan, as I said, I don't know as much about him as his father and brothers, who were more focused on England, Norway, and France. Its cool they found his mound, I do hope they excavate it sometime, but respectfully, not the way some mounds are broken into, like Native American mounds. Bjorn was probably a real person, or like his father the stories of him are based on two or more Vikings, but most likely we will never know.
@Tjalfi999 There is alot of Burrial mounds scattered all across Sweden, Only a few have been excavated.. I agree that they should start excavating the mounds but with respect.
@joonte1010 For people who are reading this and don't know about Björn's raid on Luna:
He though it was Rome, which he wanted to plunder, but its defenses were to much for the Vikings, so Björn sent a message into the city saying he was dying and wanted to convert to Christianity. He was baptized on his ship. The next day the Vikings said he had died and wanted to be buried in the church. During the funeral procession Björn sprang out of the coffin fully armed, and the rest is history.
@Tjalfi999 Björn was one of few chieftains in Sweden back then that gathered up a fleet to raid in the West, Most Swedish cheiftains and Vikings went east which is quite understandable since that was the closest route for them and they turned wealthy by their trade and service in the Varangian Guard. It was like a tradition among Swedish chieftains to gather up a fleet and raid the Eastern coastlines, Björn choosed to head west which made him different from all the others.
Ragnar is one my ancestors. His (my) line ended up as one of the Norman nobles in France. They were given land and title in Shropshire after the conquest of England. My ancestors eventually emigrated from England to the US as Puritans in Massachusetts. We then moved across the US and ended up in Hutchinson, Kansas during the days of the wild west. I now live in Virginia.
xplorva 3 months ago
Hooray a song about grandpa, ok I should add about 33 greats on to that...
ragnarshadow 4 months ago
@JarnsidaViking No, he was from Denmark, he conquered Sweden with his sons.
Tjalfi999 4 months ago
@Tjalfi999 Björn Ironside was Swedish and a chieftain in Sweden.
joonte1010 4 months ago
@joonte1010 Björn conquered land in Sweden, but he was born in Denmark. Its all in The Saga Of Ragnar And His Sons, its a really cool book. His brother Ivar conquered York after Ragnar died there, King Aella threw him in a pit of vipers. You probably know that already.
Tjalfi999 4 months ago
@Tjalfi999 Björn never conquered anything in Sweden, He ruled Sweden after hes fathers(Ivar the Boneless) death He is burried in Sweden aswell. Hes grandfather was the ruler of Sweden(Sigurd Ring) while hes grandfathers uncle was the ruler of Denmark(Harald Wartooth). Sigurd Ring conquered denmark and thus ruled both Sweden and Denmark(He defeated the Danes in the battle of Brávellir), Ivar the Boneless later inherited the Swedish and Danish thrones.
joonte1010 4 months ago
@joonte1010 Yes, you are correct, Ragnar was of the Ynglinga Dynasty in Uppsala, but Ragnar ruled over Denmark only, until he conquered Sweden with his sons from King Eystein. Ivar later conquered England and ruled it until he died. As far as I remember from the saga, Björn wasn't ever the most important of Ragnar's sons, it was always Ivar and Sigurd Snake-eye who were the heroes (or villains, depending on how you look at it).
And Björn was the guy who led the hilarious Viking raid on Luna.
Tjalfi999 4 months ago
@Tjalfi999 Björn havent got much attention thats true, But thats because the Swedes themselves never wrote down about their own achievements unlike the Norwegians and Danes who made it sure for the afterworld to know everything they did. Björn did alot of things, he raided along the coasts everywhere through Western Europe down the the Meditterean and yes, He aimed for Rome but attacked the wrong city, Luna. It is a quite hilarious story hehe, it wasnt as fun for the Italians thou.
joonte1010 4 months ago
@Tjalfi999 Truthfully though, there isn't very much historical evidence for the life of Ragnar, it seems that he was a compilation of several Vikings by that name who all did things later ascribed to one Viking alone. Ivar the Boneless is the only one who has hard historical proof for his existence, and Sigurd Snake-eye is supposedly the father of Harald Fairhair, first king of Norway. So in any case Ragnar's descendants ended up ruling all of Scandinavia and Britain at some point in time.
Tjalfi999 4 months ago
@Tjalfi999 Thats true, You never know if these people ever excisted, Björn have excisted just like Ivar the Boneless. They have found what is belivied to be Björns burrial mound in Sweden, They havent excavetad it yet which is sad.. In fact they havent had a look at that many burrial mounds in Sweden at all, Would be interesting to see what hidden treasures it is there..
joonte1010 4 months ago
@joonte1010 Oh, you are right, Bjorn was considered a Swedish chieftan, as I said, I don't know as much about him as his father and brothers, who were more focused on England, Norway, and France. Its cool they found his mound, I do hope they excavate it sometime, but respectfully, not the way some mounds are broken into, like Native American mounds. Bjorn was probably a real person, or like his father the stories of him are based on two or more Vikings, but most likely we will never know.
Tjalfi999 4 months ago
@Tjalfi999 There is alot of Burrial mounds scattered all across Sweden, Only a few have been excavated.. I agree that they should start excavating the mounds but with respect.
joonte1010 4 months ago
@joonte1010 For people who are reading this and don't know about Björn's raid on Luna:
He though it was Rome, which he wanted to plunder, but its defenses were to much for the Vikings, so Björn sent a message into the city saying he was dying and wanted to convert to Christianity. He was baptized on his ship. The next day the Vikings said he had died and wanted to be buried in the church. During the funeral procession Björn sprang out of the coffin fully armed, and the rest is history.
Tjalfi999 4 months ago
@Tjalfi999 Björn was one of few chieftains in Sweden back then that gathered up a fleet to raid in the West, Most Swedish cheiftains and Vikings went east which is quite understandable since that was the closest route for them and they turned wealthy by their trade and service in the Varangian Guard. It was like a tradition among Swedish chieftains to gather up a fleet and raid the Eastern coastlines, Björn choosed to head west which made him different from all the others.
joonte1010 4 months ago
@JarnsidaViking He was considered Danish who had both Denmark and Sweden under his control as king for a few years.
stigblue 5 months ago
@JarnsidaViking indeed, i just posted the lyrics I wrote, giving a little more of context.
MuaySar 8 months ago