Fantastic! So very true. Carol is my Congressional Rep, well - she says she is. But she blows me off when I send her questions through her website. Don't believe me? Go to the CarolSheaPorterFacts website.
But, big gummint making reproductive decisions for women is okay. Big gummint telling folks who they can marry is okay. What a bunch of right wing baloney.
Carol Shea-Porter doesn't take corporate PAC money, and she didn't vote for TARP. She also didn't give her campaign $350,000 she can't account for, like her opponent did.
@antiquefeminist Nope, govt shouldn't make reproductive decisions for women. They should, however stop women, or men for that matter, from killing babies. It's funny how you call it 'reproductive decisions' now. Just a few years ago, we were told that a little baby with hands and feet and a heartbeat and a face was an 'unviable tissue mass'.
Oh, and another thing, should govt tell a man he can't marry TWO women? What about a man who wants to marry a 12 year old? Shouldn't govt stop that?
@antiquefeminist Nice deflection. The issue here is very simple: NO ONE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO KILL BABIES.
Now, you can do what you've done before, and what the baby-killing industry has done for decades, and REFUSE to talk about baby-killing, calling it something else or deflecting the issue, etc. But at the end of the day you are pro-baby-killing and I'm anti-baby-killing. Bottom line.
Just answer this: when a woman has an abortion, what is it that is thrown away afterwards?
@andypro7777 So, you haven't adopted any babies. And you vote for candidates who are in favor of policies that deny women with children the help they need. Why aren't you picketing homeless shelters if you care about children so much? The simple answer is - you don't care about children. You care about controlling women via the fetus.
@antiquefeminist I notice that you didn't answer the question, which was:
When a woman has an abortion, what is it that is thrown away afterwards?
And I know why you haven't answered the question, because if you answered truthfully, it would make you seem like a monster. The "thing" that is thrown away has a heart, a face, little tiny hands and little tiny feet. That's why you keep deflecting, because you can't face the truth that you are simply pro-baby-killing.
@antiquefeminist And another thing, you might want to work on your logic a little. Your 'when you get pregnant' line is laughably illogical, as if people who aren't pregnant can't have an opinion on this issue.
Logically, that's like saying that if you're not black, you can't be against racism. Or if you're not Jewish, you can't be against Nazism. But you know what, if that's what passes for logic and intelligent discourse, I'll play along: (cont.)
you said: "So, you won't mind if we all vote on what you can do with your penis?"
This comment shows the utter lack of intelligence and logic from the pro-baby-killing side.
Ok, let's use your twisted logic on the penis issue.
Let's say that I decided I was going to use my penis to rape underage girls (or boys)
Now, if you're consistent, you should tell me there's nothing wrong with that and no one should be able to tell me what to do with my penis. Pro-choice, right?
@antiquefeminist Once again, you are proving that you have serious logical shortcomings when discussing this issue. You are trying to assume or make up things about me to deflect from the fact that you haven't really answered any of the questions I've asked. You have no idea how I feel about others, or if I eat meat, or wear leather, or anything else, because we are currently discussing abortion. Or at least I am, you are deflecting because you don't wish to answer questions I've asked.
@antiquefeminist What is it that is thrown away when a woman has an abortion? Will you defend a man's right to do whatever he wants to with his body (the pro-choice position), if he rapes someome? Please answer, no more of your much-less-clever-than-you-think deflections.
But again, let's play your silly game:
Since you care so much about freedom for women, how many muslim countries have you gone to to protest the treatment of women? Where's your righteous outrage over that?
@antiquefeminist RE: Your comments about abortion (using your logic):
Tell you what, sparky, when you're a 7 month old pre-born baby, who is about to have it's head pierced with a sharp object by a liberal idealogue propping up a billion dollar industry; and when you have the brains and life sucked out of your skull, well, then, I'll be interested to hear what you have to say about it.
@andypro7777 Do us all a favor Andy and have a vasectomy. If you're opposed to abortion, go out and speak to boys about saving themselves for marriage. Tell them to remain chaste until they're ready for fatherhood. Men need to take responsibility for their sperm.
@antiquefeminist First of all, I don't have to have a vasectomy because I don't engage in premarital sex. Secondly, I DO speak to young men and women about not having sex before marriage.
SO, it looks like your reply, which DID NOT answer any of the questions I asked, is mute. Nice try though.
NOW, what is it that is thrown away when a woman has an abortion?
Will you defend a man's right to do whatever he wants with his body (pro-choice), even if he rapes someone?
@antiquefeminist Are you aware of how the abortion industry covers up these adult men knocking up underage girls so they can have abortions? Are you aware of the girl FORCED to have an abortion when she was knocked up by a teacher? (the doctor is STILL doing abortions).
I'm not a rape apologist, but it seems you're saying it's NOT ok for a man to do whatever he wants with his body if it harms someone, right?
@andypro7777 Listen up, dillweed. I got pregnant at 17. I didn't have an abortion. I made a choice. If you don't trust women to make choices, than you sure as hell shouldn't trust them to raise children. If my uterus is going to be government property, I expect to get free government health care, and I expect to be exempt from the tax rolls.
@andypro7777 How many babies have you adopted, Andy? What kind of work do you do to help the children who are actually born? You're full of crap like all wingnuts - you lose all interest in the fetus once it hits the chute.
@antiquefeminist Why do think avoiding the issue and asking me about my personal life (which didn't work), is an effective way to discuss the issue. It's obvious that your position is indefensible, and that's why you avoid the questions.
Why aren't you going to Muslim countries to protest women's rights? They are much worse than here in the US.
Do you oppose Obamacare which takes away a women's right to choose her doctor, gynecologist, and health care provider? Seems like you should.
@andypro7777 There's no such thing as "Obamacare." The provisions of the health insurance reform bill don't take away my right to choose my doctor, etc. You're a liar, Andy. Unsurprising.
@antiquefeminist So please spare me your juvenile, transparent attempts to avoid defending your position and answer the questions. Stopping by every once in awhile to make yet another statement that is off-topic may be your idea of intelligent discourse, and it may be why you think you're right on this issue, but in the real world it just show your bankruptcy.
Or, you know what, maybe you could just ask me if I spend my time handing out condoms to elementary school kids. Seems about right.
@andypro7777 I don't care what you do in your spare time, Andy. I suspect much of it involves touching yourself inappropriately, and viewing a lot of internet porn.
@antiquefeminist Oh, and you must care what I do in my spare time, because IT WAS YOU who asked.
You thought it'd be clever to ask me why I don't go and tell kids about abstinence, but when you found out i actually do that, then you now 'pretend' like you don't care.
Your grasp of logic is crap.
And, in your opinion, which is worse: touching yourself or killing babies.
Go ahead, say it KILLING BABIES, because that's what you're advocating.
Nice try. Your attempts to portray me as this or that are transparent. Of course that's what you're doing, because you can't deal with facts, and don't want to answer the question I've asked several times:
What is is that is thrown away when a woman has an abortion?
How many times have I asked that? And you've yet to answer. The real reason is that you know that what's thrown away has a heartbeat, it has a face, it has little tiny hands and little tiny feet.
As you are showing here, your belief system falls apart when you actually look at it. Instead of dealing with the real, actual murder that goes on, you are forced to spout endless rhetoric.
I can see why, I'm sure the Nazis didn't sit around and say 'Hey, we're murdering Jew here'. Nope, they probably said things like, "We're bringing freedom and choice to our nation'.
And keep on making assumptions about me, I'm fine with it. It just proves that the facts are not on your side.
@andypro7777 It's easy to make assumptions about you, wingnut - all you do is bleat and attack. You don't answer questions. Tell me, is it murder when kids die in this country because they can't get medical care? Or is that okay, because they aren't fetuses any more? Is it murder when your life loving buddies murder doctors? Do you donate to Operation Rescue - a terrorist organization?
@antiquefeminist STILL not answering the question, eh? I wouldn't answer either if my answer showed that I approved of killing babies, like you do.
But I will answer your questions, even though you've refused to answer mine.
NO, it's not murder when kids die because they can't get medical care. ANY kid in this country can be taken to the ER to get care REGARDLESS of income level. If the parents refuse to get the kids their care, then they are responsible.
"Is it murder when your life loving buddies murder doctors?"
A ridiculous question. OF COURSE it's murder when someone kills a doctor, no matter what the reason. And anyone who does so should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
I don't know why you would call them 'my loving buddies' however. I've shown time and again that I'm against murder - whether it's babies or doctors.
YOU'RE the one who has shown to be pro-murder, so it's YOUR ideological buddies who kill.
@andypro7777 What's thrown away when a cow is killed for you to eat? Do you eat meat, wear leather? Why do only some lives matter? What about the death penalty? Are you okay with all of the civilians being killed every day in the 5 countries currently being bombed by the US?
@andypro7777 killing a cow isn't murder. That applies only to the killing of one human by other humans.
12 weeks after conception the foetus doesn't even have nervous systems, neurons or neuropathic chemicals to comprehend or feel pain.
No difference from that embryo and the jizz on your tissue after you wank. Both have "potential" for life- if that's even a valid argument which it isn't.
Yes, typical lack of logic from you. I've asked ONE question that you CAN NOT answer, and then you blame me for not answering your questions. Whatever you have to do to make yourself feel better about being pro-baby-killing.
Plus, all of your questions have NOTHING to do with the issue of abortion - you're only asking them to avoid the ONE question I've asked.
So, what is it that's thrown away when a woman has an abortion?
The growing gap is between government employees and the private sector...with no end in sight.
The costly, painful Bureaucratic demise into government imposed debt, collapsing personal worth and invented fat government pay scales has arrived just in time to crush the next generation....Keynesian collapse of fiat currency as predictable as rain....
So the Feds taking our (NH) money to improve education in states governed by buddies on Obama is excellent work? But then again I am one of those low IQ typical white people clinging to my bible and guns.
This country's major problem seems to be the growing gap between haves and have nots. Without a healthy middle class, the economy will cease to work. With the policies advocated by Republicans & tea party cases, there won't really be anyone but the rich left who can buy products. The low I.Q. required to be so short sighted seems an important prerequisite to creating, posting, or promoting such nonsense. Carol Shea Porter has done excellent work for the people of New Hampshire.
Isn't that the guy from the Shoes video? LOL can this suck any more than it does?
fgdesign2 1 year ago
Fantastic! So very true. Carol is my Congressional Rep, well - she says she is. But she blows me off when I send her questions through her website. Don't believe me? Go to the CarolSheaPorterFacts website.
AsktheBuilder 1 year ago
But, big gummint making reproductive decisions for women is okay. Big gummint telling folks who they can marry is okay. What a bunch of right wing baloney.
Carol Shea-Porter doesn't take corporate PAC money, and she didn't vote for TARP. She also didn't give her campaign $350,000 she can't account for, like her opponent did.
antiquefeminist 1 year ago
@antiquefeminist Nope, govt shouldn't make reproductive decisions for women. They should, however stop women, or men for that matter, from killing babies. It's funny how you call it 'reproductive decisions' now. Just a few years ago, we were told that a little baby with hands and feet and a heartbeat and a face was an 'unviable tissue mass'.
Oh, and another thing, should govt tell a man he can't marry TWO women? What about a man who wants to marry a 12 year old? Shouldn't govt stop that?
andypro7777 1 year ago
@andypro7777 Tell you what, sparky - when you can get pregnant, I'll be interested to hear what you have to say about it.
How many unwanted babies have you adopted, andy?? Bet you hate all the gummint programs that would help women have and keep babies.
antiquefeminist 1 year ago
@antiquefeminist Nice deflection. The issue here is very simple: NO ONE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO KILL BABIES.
Now, you can do what you've done before, and what the baby-killing industry has done for decades, and REFUSE to talk about baby-killing, calling it something else or deflecting the issue, etc. But at the end of the day you are pro-baby-killing and I'm anti-baby-killing. Bottom line.
Just answer this: when a woman has an abortion, what is it that is thrown away afterwards?
andypro7777 1 year ago
@andypro7777 So, you haven't adopted any babies. And you vote for candidates who are in favor of policies that deny women with children the help they need. Why aren't you picketing homeless shelters if you care about children so much? The simple answer is - you don't care about children. You care about controlling women via the fetus.
antiquefeminist 1 year ago
@antiquefeminist I notice that you didn't answer the question, which was:
When a woman has an abortion, what is it that is thrown away afterwards?
And I know why you haven't answered the question, because if you answered truthfully, it would make you seem like a monster. The "thing" that is thrown away has a heart, a face, little tiny hands and little tiny feet. That's why you keep deflecting, because you can't face the truth that you are simply pro-baby-killing.
andypro7777 1 year ago
@antiquefeminist And another thing, you might want to work on your logic a little. Your 'when you get pregnant' line is laughably illogical, as if people who aren't pregnant can't have an opinion on this issue.
Logically, that's like saying that if you're not black, you can't be against racism. Or if you're not Jewish, you can't be against Nazism. But you know what, if that's what passes for logic and intelligent discourse, I'll play along: (cont.)
andypro7777 1 year ago
@andypro7777 So, you won't mind if we all vote on what you can do with your penis?
antiquefeminist 1 year ago
@antiquefeminist
you said: "So, you won't mind if we all vote on what you can do with your penis?"
This comment shows the utter lack of intelligence and logic from the pro-baby-killing side.
Ok, let's use your twisted logic on the penis issue.
Let's say that I decided I was going to use my penis to rape underage girls (or boys)
Now, if you're consistent, you should tell me there's nothing wrong with that and no one should be able to tell me what to do with my penis. Pro-choice, right?
andypro7777 1 year ago
@andypro7777 Given that you're a Republican, your being a pedophile wouldn't come as any kind of surprise.
What are you doing to help the born, Andy? Do you eat meat? Wear leather? Support the death penalty? Why do only fetuses matter to you?
antiquefeminist 1 year ago
@antiquefeminist Once again, you are proving that you have serious logical shortcomings when discussing this issue. You are trying to assume or make up things about me to deflect from the fact that you haven't really answered any of the questions I've asked. You have no idea how I feel about others, or if I eat meat, or wear leather, or anything else, because we are currently discussing abortion. Or at least I am, you are deflecting because you don't wish to answer questions I've asked.
andypro7777 1 year ago
@antiquefeminist What is it that is thrown away when a woman has an abortion? Will you defend a man's right to do whatever he wants to with his body (the pro-choice position), if he rapes someome? Please answer, no more of your much-less-clever-than-you-think deflections.
But again, let's play your silly game:
Since you care so much about freedom for women, how many muslim countries have you gone to to protest the treatment of women? Where's your righteous outrage over that?
andypro7777 1 year ago
@antiquefeminist RE: Your comments about abortion (using your logic):
Tell you what, sparky, when you're a 7 month old pre-born baby, who is about to have it's head pierced with a sharp object by a liberal idealogue propping up a billion dollar industry; and when you have the brains and life sucked out of your skull, well, then, I'll be interested to hear what you have to say about it.
andypro7777 1 year ago
@andypro7777 Do us all a favor Andy and have a vasectomy. If you're opposed to abortion, go out and speak to boys about saving themselves for marriage. Tell them to remain chaste until they're ready for fatherhood. Men need to take responsibility for their sperm.
antiquefeminist 1 year ago
@antiquefeminist First of all, I don't have to have a vasectomy because I don't engage in premarital sex. Secondly, I DO speak to young men and women about not having sex before marriage.
SO, it looks like your reply, which DID NOT answer any of the questions I asked, is mute. Nice try though.
NOW, what is it that is thrown away when a woman has an abortion?
Will you defend a man's right to do whatever he wants with his body (pro-choice), even if he rapes someone?
Please answer or shut up.
andypro7777 1 year ago
@andypro7777 Are you aware that 2/3 of the underage girls that get pregnant are knocked up by adult men?
Abortion is legal, butthat. Rape is not - BUT - I'm 100% not surprised to find that you're a rape apologist.
antiquefeminist 1 year ago
@antiquefeminist Are you aware of how the abortion industry covers up these adult men knocking up underage girls so they can have abortions? Are you aware of the girl FORCED to have an abortion when she was knocked up by a teacher? (the doctor is STILL doing abortions).
I'm not a rape apologist, but it seems you're saying it's NOT ok for a man to do whatever he wants with his body if it harms someone, right?
Then why should a woman be able to?
STILL didn't answer the question...
andypro7777 1 year ago
@andypro7777 It's the men in the judicial system who cover up for other men, andyblow. No link to actual facts on this alleged forced abortion, I see.
Abortion is legal. Rape is not. Surely even someone as simple as you can grasp these concepts.
antiquefeminist 1 year ago
@antiquefeminist The question that will PROVE that you are a monster:
What is it that's thrown away when a woman has an abortion?
Are you to scared to answer because you KNOW it's something with a face, a heart, little hands, and little feet?
ANSWER THE QUESTION.
Or shut up.
andypro7777 1 year ago
@andypro7777 Listen up, dillweed. I got pregnant at 17. I didn't have an abortion. I made a choice. If you don't trust women to make choices, than you sure as hell shouldn't trust them to raise children. If my uterus is going to be government property, I expect to get free government health care, and I expect to be exempt from the tax rolls.
antiquefeminist 1 year ago
@andypro7777 How many babies have you adopted, Andy? What kind of work do you do to help the children who are actually born? You're full of crap like all wingnuts - you lose all interest in the fetus once it hits the chute.
antiquefeminist 1 year ago
@antiquefeminist Why do think avoiding the issue and asking me about my personal life (which didn't work), is an effective way to discuss the issue. It's obvious that your position is indefensible, and that's why you avoid the questions.
Why aren't you going to Muslim countries to protest women's rights? They are much worse than here in the US.
Do you oppose Obamacare which takes away a women's right to choose her doctor, gynecologist, and health care provider? Seems like you should.
andypro7777 1 year ago
@andypro7777 There's no such thing as "Obamacare." The provisions of the health insurance reform bill don't take away my right to choose my doctor, etc. You're a liar, Andy. Unsurprising.
antiquefeminist 1 year ago
@antiquefeminist So please spare me your juvenile, transparent attempts to avoid defending your position and answer the questions. Stopping by every once in awhile to make yet another statement that is off-topic may be your idea of intelligent discourse, and it may be why you think you're right on this issue, but in the real world it just show your bankruptcy.
Or, you know what, maybe you could just ask me if I spend my time handing out condoms to elementary school kids. Seems about right.
andypro7777 1 year ago
@andypro7777 I don't care what you do in your spare time, Andy. I suspect much of it involves touching yourself inappropriately, and viewing a lot of internet porn.
antiquefeminist 1 year ago
@antiquefeminist Oh, and you must care what I do in my spare time, because IT WAS YOU who asked.
You thought it'd be clever to ask me why I don't go and tell kids about abstinence, but when you found out i actually do that, then you now 'pretend' like you don't care.
Your grasp of logic is crap.
And, in your opinion, which is worse: touching yourself or killing babies.
Go ahead, say it KILLING BABIES, because that's what you're advocating.
andypro7777 1 year ago
@andypro7777 Actually, Andy, I don't expect you to be clever at all. After having a dialogue with you, I know better.
I expect you're a bitter, unattractive guy who thinks that one way to punish women for not being interested in you is to have power over them.
antiquefeminist 1 year ago
@antiquefeminist
Nice try. Your attempts to portray me as this or that are transparent. Of course that's what you're doing, because you can't deal with facts, and don't want to answer the question I've asked several times:
What is is that is thrown away when a woman has an abortion?
How many times have I asked that? And you've yet to answer. The real reason is that you know that what's thrown away has a heartbeat, it has a face, it has little tiny hands and little tiny feet.
Please answer.
andypro7777 1 year ago
As you are showing here, your belief system falls apart when you actually look at it. Instead of dealing with the real, actual murder that goes on, you are forced to spout endless rhetoric.
I can see why, I'm sure the Nazis didn't sit around and say 'Hey, we're murdering Jew here'. Nope, they probably said things like, "We're bringing freedom and choice to our nation'.
And keep on making assumptions about me, I'm fine with it. It just proves that the facts are not on your side.
andypro7777 1 year ago
@andypro7777 It's easy to make assumptions about you, wingnut - all you do is bleat and attack. You don't answer questions. Tell me, is it murder when kids die in this country because they can't get medical care? Or is that okay, because they aren't fetuses any more? Is it murder when your life loving buddies murder doctors? Do you donate to Operation Rescue - a terrorist organization?
antiquefeminist 1 year ago
@antiquefeminist STILL not answering the question, eh? I wouldn't answer either if my answer showed that I approved of killing babies, like you do.
But I will answer your questions, even though you've refused to answer mine.
NO, it's not murder when kids die because they can't get medical care. ANY kid in this country can be taken to the ER to get care REGARDLESS of income level. If the parents refuse to get the kids their care, then they are responsible.
andypro7777 1 year ago
"Is it murder when your life loving buddies murder doctors?"
A ridiculous question. OF COURSE it's murder when someone kills a doctor, no matter what the reason. And anyone who does so should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
I don't know why you would call them 'my loving buddies' however. I've shown time and again that I'm against murder - whether it's babies or doctors.
YOU'RE the one who has shown to be pro-murder, so it's YOUR ideological buddies who kill.
andypro7777 1 year ago
"Operation Rescue" - A terrorist organization
I have to agree with you on that one. I remember when Operation Rescue was being form, and their founder made it very clear that there goal was:
"The extermination of the Negro population"
Oh, wait, that wasn't the founder of Operation Rescue, that was Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood.
My bad.
BTW, what is it that is thrown away after a woman has an abortion?
andypro7777 1 year ago
@andypro7777 What's thrown away when a cow is killed for you to eat? Do you eat meat, wear leather? Why do only some lives matter? What about the death penalty? Are you okay with all of the civilians being killed every day in the 5 countries currently being bombed by the US?
antiquefeminist 1 year ago
@antiquefeminist
Q: "What's thrown away when a cow is killed for you to eat?"
A: Whatever is left over is the left over part of a MURDERED cow.
Now, once again (your avoidance is becoming laughable, and you PROVE my point every time you refuse to answer):
What is is that is thrown away when a woman has an abortion?
Oh, and by the way, nice logic from you. You've just basically admitted that to you the life of a cow is more important than the life of a baby.
Terrorist...indeed.
andypro7777 1 year ago
@andypro7777 killing a cow isn't murder. That applies only to the killing of one human by other humans.
12 weeks after conception the foetus doesn't even have nervous systems, neurons or neuropathic chemicals to comprehend or feel pain.
No difference from that embryo and the jizz on your tissue after you wank. Both have "potential" for life- if that's even a valid argument which it isn't.
hippydude89 1 year ago
@andypro7777 You really do have some batshit insane opinions, don't you?
hippydude89 1 year ago
@andypro7777 Given how many of my questions you've avoided, you're in no position to point fingers. Get busy, or get bent, spankypants.
antiquefeminist 1 year ago
@antiquefeminist
Yes, typical lack of logic from you. I've asked ONE question that you CAN NOT answer, and then you blame me for not answering your questions. Whatever you have to do to make yourself feel better about being pro-baby-killing.
Plus, all of your questions have NOTHING to do with the issue of abortion - you're only asking them to avoid the ONE question I've asked.
So, what is it that's thrown away when a woman has an abortion?
Wonder why you won't answer that, huh?
andypro7777 1 year ago
@andypro7777 Do you know how many babies you murder every time you masturbate Andy?
antiquefeminist 1 year ago
The growing gap is between government employees and the private sector...with no end in sight.
The costly, painful Bureaucratic demise into government imposed debt, collapsing personal worth and invented fat government pay scales has arrived just in time to crush the next generation....Keynesian collapse of fiat currency as predictable as rain....
chev39rsh 1 year ago
So the Feds taking our (NH) money to improve education in states governed by buddies on Obama is excellent work? But then again I am one of those low IQ typical white people clinging to my bible and guns.
I smell a change coming,,,.,
annodarac 1 year ago
This country's major problem seems to be the growing gap between haves and have nots. Without a healthy middle class, the economy will cease to work. With the policies advocated by Republicans & tea party cases, there won't really be anyone but the rich left who can buy products. The low I.Q. required to be so short sighted seems an important prerequisite to creating, posting, or promoting such nonsense. Carol Shea Porter has done excellent work for the people of New Hampshire.
jasp555 1 year ago
Ok so how do you feel about tax cuts for the rich? Oh, but that's ok.
ha63 1 year ago
@ha63 Tax cuts for you are ok though or are they just as evil? Or is it only ok to take from those who have more than you?
mrbrendanobrien 1 year ago