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  • @knowtheonetruegospel Actually, Mormons DO believe that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Saviour.

    Polytheism is the belief that WE have more than one god. Like Greek and Roman mythology, with a god of love and a god of war and all that.

    We, like Paul, say that, no matter what other gods are out there, be they real or imagined, on earth or in heaven, WE believe and worship ONE God, our Heavenly Father.

  • @lindalds You are correct that Mormon belief in a plurality of gods is in that regard not unlike Greek mythology. It is intrinsically smythology, that is, it is inherent in the scope & study of the myth of Smith.

    You do not know whether the god you call your heavenly father is the the God most glorious or the God above all gods or the Lord God Most High if you believe that he had a father who had a father who had a father in infinite regression, do you? I mean you cannot be sure, can you?

  • @Shulamitefire No, I said that that was polytheism, and we are not polytheists. We do not HAVE many gods, we do not believe IN many gods, we don't have anything to do with any gods other than our Heavenly Father.

    We know nothing about any other gods, what they do, or anything like that, ONLY that there MAY BE other gods. That's it. All I know is that, for us, we have ONE GOD, our Heavenly Father.

    As for, I cannot be sure, then in that case, why worry? I don't.

  • Who said "This year all of us [will]... study the words of the prophets in the New Testament in Sunday School. While the Old Testament is a study of prophets and a people, the New Testament is focused on the life and influence of the only Man who came into mortality with dual citizenship in heaven and on earth—our Savior and Redeemer, Jesus Christ."?

    Time's up! If you guessed Elder L. Tom Perry, Apostle of the LDS Church in General Conference this month, you are correct! Christian? Yep!

  • For an in depth study of mormon scriptures, please see "Joseph Smith's Language problems," a talk given recently in S.L.C. It conclusively shows the Book of Mormon is a product of the

    19th Century.

  • Same old anti-Mormon stuff.

    As for your question, if Mormons are Christians, then are all Christians Mormons?

    THINK about that.

    If all Methodists are Christians, does that mean all Christians are Methodists?

    If all Baptists are Christians, does that mean all Christians are Baptists?

    If all evangelicals are Christians, does that mean that all Christians are evangelicals?

  • If methodists, batptists....etc believe in the christian doctrine, then they are christian. Mormons don't believe in christian doctrine, so they are not christian..........It's actually very simple.

  • Who's Christian doctrine? We believe in Christian doctrine. CHRISTian is believer in CHRIST. That's us.

  • By that reasoning then Muslims are Chirstians too. They believe in Jesus as well.

  • They don't believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, or Lord and Saviour. To them, He was no more than a prophet of Allah (God).

    WE believe He is the Son of God, our Lord and Saviour. That He was born of a virgin mortal mother and a Heavenly, Divine, Immortal Father. That He died on the cross as a sacrifice for our sins, that He was bodily resurrected three days later, and 40 days after that, He ascended to Heaven, and sits at the right hand of God our Heavenly Father.

  • What sexual position do you think your heavenly father and the virgin mortal mother used to concieve Jesus. I'll bet they did it doggy styly. I always pegged your heavenly father as kind of kinky.

  • @vcomp1960 i hope u like fire and moaning. because your gonna burn in hell dumb ass!

  • @footballplayer3210 Then I guess we'll talk again.

  • @vcomp1960 This post says WAY more about you than it ever will about us.

  • @lindalds And what does it say about me? Enlighten me about me?

  • @vcomp1960 You are obsessed with sex, obviously.

    WE are not taught anything about God having sex with anyone, that's something vomited up by Ed Decker, anti-Mormon extraordinaire. Of course, he was excommunicated from the LDS church because he couldn't think of anything else, either.

  • @lindalds

    wow......what a comeback?

  • @vcomp1960 It may not be original, but it's true.

  • @lindalds I can't keep up with the quick witted Lindalds....someone help me!

  • Did Joseph Smith add to the Bible? Yes he did. He changed the nature of God and brought back the already finished work of the Lord. Several verses in the Bible say, don't add anything extra to this gospel. That didn't stop Mohamed and didn't stop Joseph Smith.

  • The "several verses" you are referring to from the Bible (Deuteronomy 4:2, Proverbs 30:6, Galatians 1:9) are all followed by additional information that God revealed to His prophets and apostles.

    In Revelation 22:18, the angel warns not to add to the prophecy given to John, specifically the book of Revelation. It does not (nor do any of the other verses) refer to the Bible, Scripture, or revelation being closed. Otherwise, the Bible would have ended at Deuteronomy.

  • You are right about not adding to these paticular books. There is a big difference when you invent a new gospel that is contrary to what the Bible clearly spells out. This could be a never ending debate. The LDS gospel / doctrine has a produced a completely different meaning of Biblical scripture. Anyone could easily see this by reading the letters of the apostles who were taught by Jesus and led by the Holy Spirit.

  • What are your thoughts about the people of Menassah being found in India? This tribe has kept its Jewish roots for 3500 years and has been accepted by Jewish scholars to move back to Jerusalem.

  • I think it is awesome that some of the tribe of Manasseh has been found and returning home. The gathering of Jerusalem is exciting!

  • mormon church is anti - Christian

  • Fuck each and every mormon daughter fucking bigot.

  • White man speak with fourk tongue.

  • k....?

  • @KempoJoe87 Yes, "Christian" is found in the Bible.

    Acts 11:26

    And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called CHRISTIANS first in Antioch.

  • @KempoJoe87 Yes, "Christian" is found in the Bible.

    Acts 11:26

    And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called CHRISTIANS first in Antioch.

  • @Shulamitefire Called Christians by whom?

  • Just a thought, did you know the word "Christian" is actually not even found anywhere in the Holy Bible anywhere. If you can find it anywhere please show me. That said, members of the Church of Jesus Christ base all of their teachings on the Jesus Christ of the Old and New Testament so if that isn't a follower of Christ I do not know what is. Why are you posting your comment like an Andy Warhol painting? Kind of cool but very distracting :-/

  • yes im very aware of that the word means chris like also nor is he word trinity but the concept is still there

  • pangeanet:

    Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

    Excuse me? Nowhere? Your ignorance is showing.

    Also check: Acts 26:28 and 1Peter 4:16

    yet again it speaks of CHRISTIANOS...

  • Hey you are probably the last person to respond to that but thanks anyway I got it shortly after I posted it elsewhere. People have been very helpful and they didn't insult me either. By the way I also learned the word "Christian" is also in the Book of Mormon in an identical context/definition.

    I'd say thank you but only if you had ended by not adding the "Excuse me? Nowwhere? Your ignorance is showing." comment. By the way I still like your "Andy Warholesque" look pretty cool, really.

  • Please forget the "Andy Warholesque" comment it is late and I was thinking you were the poster not someone else.

    Otherwise, try treating others as Jesus Christ taught with a little patience and compassion it goes a lot farther.

    You will notice in my post I did state "If you can find it anywhere else please show me" so at least I was being open minded and actually trying to be polite.

    So what are you thoughts are the multi-colored look of this vid? Distracting or cool?

  • The word "Christian is found 3 times in the New Testament. Acts 11:26, Acts 26:28, 1Peter 4:16. Now, the word "trinity" is found nowhere and the concept of it is only there if you ignore verses that tell otherwise. The "trinity" doctrine was not made "official" doctrine until 325 A.D., when it was deemed that God was 3 persons of one substance.

    Mormons believe in a Godhead of 3 persons who are of separate substance (and it's Biblical).

    And yes, Mormons are most definately Christians.

  • Exactly insofar as the "definition of God" is based upon the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD and subsequent councils of "men" and is also not in the Holy Bible anywhere. Yet it is taught and unquestioned as being accurate although it contradicts the Biblical accounts in both the Old and New Testaments.

    Mormons actually believe in the God of the New Testament as recorded thereon and not as it was later redefined centuries following Christ's birth, baptism, ministry, death, resurrection.

  • Mormons believe in Joseph Smith's revelations.

    The New Testament was collected arranged, organised and Authorised by the same church which gave us the Trinity declaration.

    Why accept one and not the other?

    Has your church ever had the authority to go through all the many epistles and various gospels(up to 30 versions not just the 4 you know of)and put together your own New Testament?

  • then prove that they are i have shown ur mormon doctrine to be quite "out there" and contradictory to The Bible,

  • "Mormons believe in a Godhead of 3 persons who are of separate substance (and it's Biblical)."

    You actually believe in 3 seperate Gods and also in a mulitude of Gods throughout the universe and that they were once sinful men etc.

    The Trinity was a declaration of the same church who gave us the New Testament because of controversy as to the nature of Christ.

    Do you equally believe The New Testament is a collection of the wrong letters and gospels?

  • Hey legal, they can't argue this point. They have NO truth regarding this doctrine and have NO ground to stand on.

  • YES GiftoALL you are 100% RIGHT! This is not the GOSPEL of JESUS CHRIST this is the GOSPEL of JOSEPH RACIST SMITH.

    "...the Lord God did cause a skin of BLACKNESS to come upon them (Book of Mormon 2 Nephi 5:21)"

    "And the skins...were DARK,according to the MARK which was set upon their fathers...which WAS A CURSE upon them...(Book of Mormon, Alma 3:6)"

    "..A BLACKNESS came upon all the (BLACK AFRICANS)..of Canaan..(PoGp Moses7:8)"

    "..seed of Cain were BLACK..(PoGp Moses7:22)"

  • lol that was me calling.

  • One factor to tell that Mormonism is not Christianity: Mormons read from the Book of Mormon when they personally feel like the Bible isn't providing them with enough spiritual nourishment.

  • Whoa! You are waaay off. All the book of mormon is , is another testiment of Jesus Christ. Most of the time in church we read from the Bible, not the book of mormon, at least in my church they do. Anyway, I believe in Christ, and I believe only God can decide who makes it into heaven, so don't judge me.

  • Exactly, "another testament of Jesus Christ." Where in the Word of God does it say that Joseph Smith was endowed by God to add to the story of Christ? You won't find it anywhere.

  • Look, I'm sorry I even argued with you about this, so can we just let it go, and leave it at that? I have my beliefs you have yours. end of story. I am NOT going to go any further on this subject.

  • whys that ? what beliefs do u have ??? are u WOF?

  • My beliefs are in the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the Lord God Almighty. That is all you need to know, do NOT judge me, and as I said this discussion is closed!!!!!!!!!

  • 1 corinthians 2:15 says a spiritua man judgeth all things... and do u believe Jesus is God?

  • I believe Jesus is the Son of God. Please leave me alone! I said this discussion is over! If you reply back again in a insulting way, I am blocking you from my account!!!!!!!!

  • why do u seem so hateful i have treated u with respect

  • Becuase you won't leave me alone when I asked you to the 1st time. If you reply back again I'm just not going to answer because you are bugging me to death! Now I ask out of kindness, please stop sending me comments.

    Thank you.

  • ok i was nice but if u have a pronlem with me thats ur fault ur on my videos on my comments.

  • Great video...I'd give it five stars...but...none the less I've sent it along to my friends and subscribers! Thanx Joe!

  • thanks for the send.

  • great video! I can't wait for the video on the prophesies of joseph smith that did not come true.

  • i agree that mormons are not christians

    If in the mormon religion people can reach godhood, then theres no need for the one true God.

    The world needs to stop focusing on religions, and more on their relationship with Jesus Christ. He is the only way we are connected to God, and forgiven of our sins.

  • Well you answered it already.

    The world uses Religions to try to reach God so the world reject:

    John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

    and is not aware of this:

    John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

    Mormons are of the world, totally blind deceivers.

  • Well, if that's true then only God can decide who makes it into heaven and what church is really true????

  • Great video Joe!  Keep them coming.

  • Great video, Bro KempoJoe87

  • awsome bro cant wait im starting some jdubb vids soon as well

  • You are right,but if your not teaching out of love this video is useless.Your response to osmiolos didnt seem out of love. He said it himself when he said"my religion". Christ abolished religion,we have a relationship based on faith. God bless and hope you bare fruit in your witnessing.

  • i love them dearly but there are those u can talk to till u are blue who wont listen.

  • I notice you avoid our Holy Scriptures!

    They contain our doctrine!

    It is easier to tear down the LDS religion when you AVOID our DOCTRINE!

  • i avoided nothing i'll be glad to do a video comparing scripture with mormon doctrine i cant wait! lol

  • "do a video comparing scripture with mormon doctrine i cant wait! lol "

    you do NOT even know what are doctrine is!

    I will give you a hint though. It is contained in our Holy Scriptures. But don't let that stop you from DISTORTING my religion!

  • great Video Joe. The masonic religion of Mormonism is not Christian. although good people and family friendly values,there religion is based of unbiblical fairytales.

    1 Galations 8

    - Danny

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  • great video, very true mormonism is not even close to christianity

  • Great video.

    God bless.

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