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  • And what about the caucus states? Why not count them? If you going to count Michigan and Florida, count the caucus states too.

  • Why would Barack Obama put his name on a abllot he would loose?

  • That don't make sense. His name was on Kentucky and WV. Explain that.

  • I cant beleave she can come out in public and said this. Sounds like dictatorship to me. This is not democracy. They lost the election people , and the sad thing is , she ruined her political career on top of it. Well actually it not a sad thing, the wickedness is exposed.

  • Wow! What a slimy hideous bitch!

  • Hillary agreed to Michigan and Florida not being counted until she was losing, then she changed her mind and went back on her word. If she will lie and cheat now, what would she do if she were president. Obama was following the rules and he was punished for doing the right thing.

  • hillary clinton deserves for the nomination for the president of united states ,having good exposure and experience in usa and also foreign affairs, she is most suitable than obama is my view

  • Name somthing she was involved in in foreign affairs? Bosnia? When she was under sniper fire? NAFTA? The agreement that ruined this country? How about the Iraq war? That was a good choice huh? Wake up people!! Its time for a new head to come in the White House!

  • Obama was told that it wouldn't be counted! Hillary is a cheater and liar!

  • She learned well from Bill how to twist the truth. This is so incredibly pathetic. She has no chance of winning even if they gave her 100% of Michigan, and yet she still lowers herself like this for what in the end will serve no purpose at all. (Except showing her true colors, and perhaps, even worse, creating a mess of the Democratic party.)

  • I have a question.

    Do FL and MI actual voters, the ones who breath and eats, disappear and not be a part of America anymore because of DNC Rules?

  • Its not a Presidential Election and you got Fat women on National T.V. crying because they wanted a woman for president. Regardless, If you add up all the numbers and give Hillary what she wants out of the two states. Obama still wins.

  • So its only the Democrats that believes that FL and MI arent part of America?

  • Pathetic, Hillary. This is seriously pathetic.

  • Florida and Michigan should be barred from the convention. 0 delegates. They broke the rules. All the rest of the states and territories followed the rules, and everyone knew what the rules were. All of the candidates agreed in advance that they would not count. If Hillary Clinton were ahead in the delegate count she would be saying "rules are rules and we all agreed". THE ONLY REASON THIS IS HAPPENING TO THE PARTY IS THAT HILLARY CLINTON IS LOSING. SHAME ON HILLARY CLINTON FOR HAVING NO SHAME!!

  • if she can't follow a simple rule like this, how the fuck is going to defend the Constitution? She is fucking TWISTED and UNAMERICAN!

  • Most voters didn't know their state was breaking a fucking rule. Fuck DNC rules. If the name is on the ballot, the vote should count. Obama the not-so-bright-after-all genius fell well below his Harvard degree, and he should eat the loss. Hillary proved to be a hell of a lot smarter on that one.

  • I live in Miami Florida, it was on the news every day for months, it was on national news, it was on every cable news outlet, it was talked about non stop. All the rest of the states and territories followed the rules, and everyone knew what the rules were. All of the candidates agreed in advance that they would not count, including Senator Clinton. All political parties have rules. There has never been an election in this country without rules. Donna B. is right, your wrong. Your emotional.

  • If you gave Hillary what she wanted out of both states , she still lost . Obama still wins by over 100 elected delagates.

  • Does Hillary have more votes? Regardless the DNC rules, Does she have more votes?

  • What the fuck? Damn I didn't know Hillary was so damn a damn PHONEY, SHADY, UNFAIR, LIAR, MANIPULATIVE, HATING, SELFISH AND GRIMMY BITCH. SERIOUSLY. EITHER THAT BITCH LOST HER MIND OR SHE IS NOT THE politician WE THOUGHT SHE WAS. Well, now we know why she stayed with Bill after Monica sucked it under the table, huh? Bill owed her this phoney fight that HAS NOW FUCKED HIS LEGACY UP. BECAUSE, NOW WE HATE HIM, TOO. SAD AND PATHEIC.

  • Bottom line:

    This had nothing to do with the people, this was just politics as usual.

    Even if you did seat these two states, it would make Obama's chances of winning GREATER than what they are now.

    All Obama did was follow the damn rules and now the Clinton's are trying to play with people's emotions and make it seem like it was all his fault. WRONG.

  • DameDiabolique, I wholeheartedly agree w/ you.

  • They only did this to rebel against the system. This politician put the Michigan votes of the people in Jeapordy in 2007 and the people are reaping the consequences of it. I mean come on, what exactly was the point of moving the primary against the rules anyway?

    This was all about politics, not about the people.

    WAKE UP AND STUDY THE FACTS!!!!

  • After the primary, Democratic National Committeewoman Debbie Dingell, who had been a leader in moving Michigan's primary date to January 15, defended her actions, saying that Michigan's rebellion against the DNC rules would spark a national campaign to change the primary process, so that New Hampshire and Iowa would not always be first.

    She only did this to rebel against the primary process. Michigan could have waited like everyone else to have their primary.

  • Another thing. 18 delegates from the Uncommited Category in Michigan said that if they were seated at the Convention, they would support Obama.

    Another thing, When Hillary was in the lead, she said in New Hampshire that Michigan and Florida votes didn't count and won't matter. Now that she is losing, now she wants to count them?

    People, don't believe this bullshit from the Clinton campaign trying to paint Obama to be the bad guy in the situation. It is pathetic.

  • Even if they decided to count the votes of Michigan and Florida, they only secure Obama's nomination. Obama only needs less than 50 delagates. Seating FLorida's 67-69 delegates who voted for Obama would put him at the 2025-2026 he needs to win.

    This is why Hillary is pushing for a revote and not pushing to count the original votes. If they count the original votes, she will lose, if they revote, more people might switch.

  • If more people switch, she might have a chance. However, if you count the original vote, they might switch. She doesn't care about the fact that Florida or Michigan's votes didn't count. She just wants to get as many votes as she can in whatever means necessary, even if it means cheating.

    Personally, I say count the original votes. A revote in those states are going to cost money that the voters cannot afford. So just count the originals.

    Bottom line, Either way, Barack Obama wins.

  • Take note, yes Barack and other candidates volunteered to take their names off the ballot. Therefore, Hillary won 55% against uncommitted. Thus claimed victory. However, 1# how can you claim you won a state whose votes didn't count to begin with? 2# According to exit polls, if Barack Obama and John Edwards names were on the ballots, she would have only won 46%. That is a 9% drop in support. She would have lost delegates instead of gaining. Hell, Hillary had a chance of LOSING the state.

  • If the people of FL and MI were so concerned about their vote they would have raised hell a year ago, not at this late stage. I don't feel at all sorry that their votes aren't being counted. It needs to stay that way. Change the rules for the next time if you think it's so unfair.

  • Hillary u are destroying yourself and don't even see it. If u think we will get behind this nonsense your are crazy as u are beginning to act.

  • Clinton held tremendous potential leverage over this decision, and not only because she was then widely judged the likely nominee. Of the committee's 30 members, a near-majority of 12 were Clinton supporters. All of them—most notably strategist Harold Ickes—voted for Florida's full disenfranchisement. (The only dissenting vote was cast by a Tallahassee, Fla., city commissioner who supported Obama.)

  • On Aug. 25, when the DNC's rules panel declared Florida's primary date out of order, it agreed by a near-unanimous majority to exceed the 50 percent penalty called for under party rules. Instead, the group stripped Florida of all 210 delegates to underscore its displeasure with Florida's defiance and to discourage other states from following suit. The DNC essentially committed itself, for fairness' sake, to strip the similarly defiant Michigan of all 156 of its delegates three months later.

  • obama - acting in good faith.

    hillary - looking to cheat any way she can.

  • No she hasn't ..She said that shw would abide by DNC rules, which clearly state that Florida and Michigan would not count if they violated them. She was cooll with hem not counting when she thought the campaign would be soon over after Super Tuesday. Now that she is getting beat to death she wants to make them count, even though hey were not fairly contested.

  • She said well before the primary in Michigan and Florida. "It's clear that this vote isn't going to count for anything." She also said she supported the DNC's decision to take away their delegates. Please wake up.

  • What about the millions of people that stayed at home because they heard their vote wasn't counting...That debate should be discussed

  • 527anamerianvoice:

    Please understand this...Barack Obama is not the reason why FL and MI wasn't counted. The DNC set the rules and Obama abided by them.

    And how did he turn his back on MI and you said he had a ground campaign there?

  • Hillary thinks you count now. But before the vote she said "it's pretty clear that this election their having is not going to count for anything."

  • Think Hillary should get all the Michigan delegates. It is Obama's fault his name was not on the ballot in Michigan. Do not disenfranchise the people of Michigan. The right to vote belongs to the people not the DNC.

  • And Hillary could actually stick to what she said before the vote. "It's pretty clear that this election their having is not going to count for anything."

  • what a dumbass...

  • I agree obviously Obama supporters fear democracy.

  • She had to agree. It wasn't the voters fault. Obama could have supported the revote which would not have come out of tax payers money where he could have campaigned fairly and let people have their say. The new primary would be after Feb. 5 nullifying the "broken rule."

  • It was Hillarys CHOICE remember that Hillary AGREED to have Michigan and Florida not count!

    Whats FAIR is to go by the rules which Hillary and Barack both agreed to. It was their choice!

  • Mein Shiterly vil achieve ze total victory. Zu vil bow to mein Fuhrer: Hitlery. Ze Shitlery/Hitlery Clintonista vil make all of zus bow to ze Shitlery. BOW TO ZE SHITLERY! BOW ZU SWINE SWADDLING VOR ZE VERDS FROM ZE OBAMA. ZU VIL ALL PAY ZE PRIZE VOR ZE DISREPECT TO ZE BUSH/CLINTONISTA RULING PARTY.

  • Bush,Clinton,Clinton,Bush,Bush and now you can vote for Clinton(Hillary) again or Bush(McCain) again and watch more defense contracts shipped overseas, our economy ruined, our military weaker, our debt with China higher, fuel prices higher, our freedoms taken away and the UN with more authority over us. You make the call.

    Hillary supporters are: Woman, illegals, NWO scumbags.

  • The only people voting for Hillary Clinton are women!

    They don't care that Hillary has run a "piss poor" campaign, that has been desperate, disorganized, and at times even bankrupt!

    They still want Hillary to run the country & the economy, despite her incredibly poor management skills because she is a woman!

    These same "women"/Hillary supporters were mad at CHEATING Bill Clinton, but now support Hillary Clinton - an even BIGGER LIAR THAN HER HUSBAND!

    White Males for Obama '08!

  • Mein Shitlery will conquer ameriCa. First ze Michigan, zen ze Florida, ze Pennsylvania, ze North Carolina, zen ze nomination for ze presidency of ze Bush/Clintonista domination of ze executive branch! Ze Shitlery will be ze fuhrer of ze new ameriCa.

  • if you set the rules, you have to play by them. Michigan and Florida knew what happen to their votes if they advance their primaries and did it anyways. Now she is talking like she never agreed to those rules and she never knew that Florida and Michigan won't be at the convention. "come on, Give me a break"

  • she is nuts

  • She won't stop until she's destroyed the party and ruined its chances in November.

  • She's a liar!

    She signed an agreement that she would not campaign in Michigan and Florida. There was a written statement all candidates signed.

    Obama chose to keep his promise, Clinton chose to break it.

    That tells you, in a nutshell, the difference between Obama and Clinton.

  • the people who took thier names off the ballot were not very smart...

  • not smart? the election was going to be sham! Michigan's ego led it to think it should be #1 in the primaries. They were told the consequences and they went ahead out of hubris. It wasn't just Obama that pulled his name - all decent candidates did so out of honesty and integrity for the system.

  • sneaky fucking bitch

  • I would feel awful if I was the only major candidate who had their name on the ballot and I only got 55% of the vote. How can anybody say that she is more electable in the general election when she has won half as many states and is behind in the popular vote.

  • Shitlery wants to be our new Stalin/Hitler/Pinochet/Marcos/­Castro or just plain Shitlery!

  • go away Hilldog!

  • it wasn't until she was losing that she wanted the votes to count

  • Any time I start to think that she's not that bad I come back to a clip of her sh*t, I mean really? She's as bad as the admin that we have in office right now. I swear, they all sit around late at night getting tanked and start saying "What if we tried this incredible rationalization for what we want to do?" Christ, I think if Hillary gets elected it will be years 9 through-like Bush than she is. When I think we are both the same gender, I get a little queasy.

  • Hillary should just stop. She didn't win Michigan. What about the 3 million people in Michigan that didn't vote because Obama was not on the ballot and we knew the votes would not count. Just stop Hillary! You will not win Michigan.

  • Amen! Hillary is just changing the rules. Before things got close, she said the state wouldn't count. This only shows the desperate measures she'll take. If she does win, there will only be a boost to McCain and Nader because Hillary is a polarizing witch!!!!

  • Michigan's democratic party is to blame for not having the state seated. Anybody that DARES to assume that the votes would have gone to Clinton or Obama is JUST GUESSING!!! The only proper way to know was by a vote. The State failed on this! Get over it!!!!

  • NO - Barack's name wasn't even on the ballot here in Michigan - I'm Republican born & raised, I wanted to place my voice for Barack yet didn't because I knew not only was his name not going to be on the ballot but it wouldn't count anyway. Is this Michigan's fault? maybe their government but not the people of Michigan!

  • ya i no all you red state ppl want barack to be the dnc nominee so in noverber you guys can vote for bush 3

  • FrancesMichigan, what happened that caused Michigan to move up the primary in the first place? Why would the Democrats in Michigan do this if they knew it would nullify thier votes in the primary?

  • MONEY & Politics. The important thing to remember weather your(D)or(R), "THIS COUNTRY" has a foundation that makes it the strongest in all the world, and part of that "Foundation" is the "Freedom & Right to Vote and Have That Vote Counted" Think about it, a hand full of people said "I will decide when you can hold your elections, and if you disobey me all those votes will not be counted! Last I knew, all you needed was to be a Registered American Citizen. who in hell do they think they are!

  • What a liar, what a bitch!

    Shame on you, Hillary!

  • Finally...Thank you for listening to Michigan's people and not what their government. We as the people on whole...no longer stand by our state governments, just wonder when or if we can ever speak?

  • Amen, FrancesMichigan. Every vote should count.

    Just one more reason to vote Ron Paul.

  • I have lived in michigan all my life, I have voted in every presidential election since my early twenties, not just because it was my "right" to do so, but because I knew it TRULY DID MATTER who was elected president. I dont give a damn what screwed this up, MY VOTE SHOULD COUNT! And the day we citizens, weather Democrat or Republican, ALLOW, our "RIGHT" to vote in a presidential election, be taken away from us is the day we say yes to communism! Open your eyes, this is about American Rights!

  • This is just another way of getting votes for that bitch.  She'll destroy the dem. party

  • Then ask for a fricken re-vote then. This was *not* a valid contest. DNC said it wasn't. All the major candidates said it wasn't, including Hillary:

    "I personally did not think it made any difference whether my name was on the ballot. You know, It's clear this election they are having is not going to count for anything."

    She only started making noises about it counting, after Super Tuesday and she realized she needed the MI and FL results.

  • That's right she knew this a long time ago and guess what now she needs the delegate. The only difference Obama is not going to let her dictate or use any of her negative messages to get her way.If any of your supporters were crazy enough to go to the polls knowing like everyone else did that the votes will not count. Then now you know what the word "rules" mean. Give up Hillary and move on. You didnt win "Michigan" there were no record turnouts that only occurs when Obama is on the ballot.

  • The bottom line is this...I only want a president in the White House that will make sure MY VOTE COUNTS! Oboma doesnt stand for one of the most important foundations in this country " the right to vote, and the right to have that vote counted" If he did, he would stand up for us citizens in Michigan as well as the citizens in the state of Florida! But he wont, he will allow bullshit politics to give him a winning edge, why? Because when it comes down to it, he is a politition through and through

  • the genesis of our existence has always been marked for the desire to survive in admist of the odds that confronts us..the struggle of race and relgion has always found its place in the history of man..beliefs that is to be considered superior is to be also considered condemed as fatal to us for its force of division that it provokes..so we must change and unite. There was a rumored moment that man united in language,beliefs, and according to religous scriptures man achieved the impossible...

  • lol, i heard this segment the other day, i'm glad others thought it was ridiculous as well. obama campaigned like the guy in brewster's millions "please vote none of the above"!

  • Wow, Hillary just utterly destroyed whatever tiny scrap of dignity she still had left. She "won" Michigan with 55% percent of the vote. The catch is, her name was the only one on the ballot.

    An election with only one choice on the ballot isn't an election at all. What kind of 'democracy' holds elections with only one candidate? Fake ones.

  • If all of you Hillary haters would face the truth, she is not lying. Obama DID take his name off the ballot. Now he is whining. She DID win. AND OBAMA campaigned illegally in Florida. The votes should stand as they are NOW and Obama should accept the results and be glad to have them, since some were for Edwards too. Grow up.

  • All of the candidates were to remove their names from the ballot in MI. Everybody did except Clinton & Kucinich. In FL, the only reason why Obama's name still appeared on the ballot was that it was too late for candidates to withdraw their names. Voters were told for weeks, however, that the election "wasn't going to count". Of 4.2 million registered Dems in FL, only 1.7 million voted.

  • ok....lets get one thing straight, before you open that pie hole think about what your saying! Oboma campained for michigan voters "To Vote" and to Vote "uncommited"! WHY do you think he did that? I will tell you why, because he was hoping to get the 55% not Hillary, only it didnt work now did it!

  • No, Obama didn't campaign MI, or in FL. That's simply not true. If you saw or heard "Vote for Obama", or that an "Uncommitted Vote is a Vote For Obama", that was your fellow Michiganders taking the initiative, on their own, to spin, in advance of what they thought Hillary might do. Don't attribute to Obama that which citizens do on their own. That's why we have rules & agreements governing these races before they begin, & say "The primary won't count if you don't stick to the agreement."

  • Hillary and Al lost the election because of Monica.

  • Is anyone ever going to stop talking about MONICA?!? My God, it is so immature!

  • trjill you are tripping.

    If anything FOX is on Hillary's side.

    Murdoch Hillary.

  • Hillary can't win unless she cheats. It's only a matter of time before she cries her fake tears on stage again.

  • I myself can't really stand Hillary..

  • Bush had his father in the WHouse. You were in the WHouse. What's to make this go-around any different? You are a monster, Hillary. Same old Washington Bull. I wish you'd drop out and stop splitting the party.

  • She's already had 8 years in the White House.

    Stand the fuck aside, power-hungry bitch.

  • At the end, she says she wants a complete do-over of Michigan.

    She knows there's no way the current result can count... She was just fantasizing.

  • She actually doesn't want a "complete" redo. She only wants Democrats to be able to vote. MI's primary was an open primary. Republicans and Independents could vote for Democrats, and vice versa. This was before Limbaugh's Operation Chaos and before the other Repub candidates dropped out. Many Dems were doing Operation Chaos in reverse, voting for Repubs. There's no way to have a fair redo. You can't turn back time, create the same circumstances, & that's not fair to the other states.

  • Barack Obama was polling badly in Michigan, and so he contacted the other campaigns and convinced them to take their names off the ballot with him on the deadline to due so.

    They did this to make Hillary look bad, and to make themselves look good for Iowa and the other primaries. I read all about this scheme of Obama's in the Iowa Independent.

    He knew he was going to lose - so he tried to make Hillary look bad. Otherwise, wy didn't he take his name off Florida's ballot too?

  • Because FL law does not allow you to withdraw your name unless you are quitting the race. Obama, Edwards AND Hillary signed the no-campaign pledge to curry favor with the DNC, IA and NH. If all three names had been on the ballot, Hillary would have won big. She had name recognition and Obama and Edwards could not gain on her due to the no-campaign pledge. And the momentum would have given her wins in the next states. But NO ONE predicted she would attempt to undo the effects of her own pledge.

  • She didn't try to undo anything, there was no promise to remove their names from the ballot. Barack Obama just wanted to make her look bad - he withdrew on the day of the deadline because he knew he was going to lose.

    You are welcome to look up the Iowa Independent article that explained his shady reasoning.

    Besides, that piece of shit did campaign in Michigan. He ran radio ads telling people to vote "uncommitted" so the delegates could vote for him later.

  • SHE did not break the pledge. Obama DID. Read the news and stop watching MSNBC or CNN

  • All of the candidates were to remove their names from the ballot in MI. Everybody did except Clinton & Kucinich. In FL, the only reason why Obama's name still appeared on the ballot was that it was too late for candidates to withdraw their names. Voters were told for weeks, however, that the election "wasn't going to count". Of 4.2 million registered Dems in FL, only 1.7 million voted.

  • Actually Dodd and Gravel's names were also on the ballot. There was no requirement to remove there name - Obama got a few others together to take their names off the ballot to make Hillary look bad and to curry favor with the traditionally early states (Iowa, New Hampshire).

    Try to use your noggin and look this stuff up instead of believing the drivel that people keep on saying without proof or research.

  • During the 8 years of the Clintons, conservatives tried to convince you liberals that they were dishonest, deceitful, and corrupt, but you liberals just tried to spin it as 'a vast right-wing conspiracy'.

    Glad to see you libs finally coming on board.

  • Can you believe this bitch? Elections are about being fair to the people. She seems to think only the candidates matter. I have news for you Hitlery Republicrat. There are 300 million other people that matter, that are entitled to fair elections with a choice of candidates, that deserve better than another dishonest crook in the White House.

  • Why does 'his choice' to remove his name make the election fair? You're talking as though winning an election is a prize to be given to a candidate, after which the electors are no longer involved. In fact the winner of an election takes on a responsibility to the people, and even if it was Obama's choice to take his name off the ballot, it was not the people's choice; if they were deprived of the chance to vote directly for their candidate, that is not not a fair election. It's like the USSR.

  • All of the candidates were to remove their names from the ballot in MI. Everybody did except Clinton & Kucinich. In FL, the only reason why Obama's name still appeared on the ballot was that it was too late for candidates to withdraw their names. Voters were told for weeks, however, that the election "wasn't going to count". Of 4.2 million registered Dems in FL, only 1.7 million voted.

  • So why didn't you express your strong feelings in 2007 when the policy was decided? Why did you agree to the policy when you were ahead in the opinion polls and thought you could wrap it up without Michigan? How is it you suddenly learned to care about Michigan voters sometime in 2008?

  • Good GOD this woMAN is truly unbelievable!!!! They wll be talking about how Billary DESTROYED any undeserved legacy they had left.

    She's a M O N S T E R !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • YOUTUBE THIS ONE!

    hillary clinton brings experience to pennsylvania

    GIVE ME SOME FEEDBACK! :D

  • Deep down she knows it's wrong hence why at the end she talks about redoing the primary. So she knows she's being dishonest, which makes what she proposes in the beginning so disgusting, as she's shovelling you this dishonesty she knows it's dishonest. She is living up to the 'monster' comment.

  • She hath dishonesty in her heart.

  • The interviewer probably got soaked in all the liquefied bullshit that poured out of her mouth. She wants the power sooooooooo badly its fucking pathetic. She'd probably kill Obama if she had the chance to do so without getting caught so she could win. I wouldn't out anything past her, fucking bitch.

  • The MONSTER is nuts....She and her Monica Man will do ANYTHING to win!

  • WOW! HILLARY IS SERIOUSLY "FUCKED" IN THE HEAD! SHE MANAGES TO "SHOCK" ME EVERYTIME!

    So let me guess, if Obama won these 2 beauty contests you would still feel the same way? I think not! Unlike YOU HILLARY, Obama listens to the DEMOCRATIC party's RULES! A party that apparently YOU are not a part of! Hillary shut the fuck up and go join the McCain party NAFTA bitch!

  • I agree with EVERYTHING you have said!!!!!! The MONSTER is nuts and she and her husband will do ANYTHING TO WIN!!!!!

  • What a piece of "CRAP" this women is becoming. Is she and both Bill that power hungry that they will stoop to nothing to try to steal this election?

  • the power at be want the worst president possible that they could play off,,

    well take a look at the choices,,,

    THIS IS THE BEST WE GOT?

    I straight up fear my government

  • Clinton's cheat, Bill cheat, hillary cheats...the clinton's are cheaters. And to a cheater is always someone else's fault.

  • the woman is NUTZ. she embodies dictatorship. fuck her....

  • It's funny because you can almost hear the voice in her head saying "this is all bullshit i hope people buy it" come on we are hip to the truth hillary. you can not count the vote when the people thought it wouldnt count! you won cause you were the only choice people had when they got there! we are awake!

  • by any means necessary, woaw shes too much

  • she is fucking crazy

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