@AccessDenied55 your method of scientific critical thinking is quite interesting. mayb you should test your scientific know how with Lynn Margulis. try finding here at the U. of Mass Amherst. She has only won the National Medal of Science Award and a few other merits. After you discuss your findings with here, be sure to let us know how it went..
@AccessDenied55 interesting that you don't seem to be interested in dealing with national and International accredited Scientist and or Architects and Engineers. Maybe you could get an award for refuting the Architects and Engineers who have already come forward, or the scientist who have had the explosive materials confirmed by various independent labs now. Since no one can refute their factual science, their findings stand. I challenge you to scientifically refute the findings.
The steel "spire" appears to disintegrate before your eyes. It starts to fall and in the process of falling, it just absolutely disappears into thin air.
@molitor2005 These beams look like melting icecream. They look like a blocks of dryice with water getting poured on them. Iv'e never seen anything like it.
Observe the material fall into a huge hole. In the second clip you can even see the cloud getting sucked into it. That hole is 100 meters and was created instantly. The "spire" is outer wall steel. The core steel was pulverized and fell into the hole. Only 4" of concrete per floor. The towers were thousands of tons of steel. You are looking at powdered steel.
@rockdahaus During the 50s and 60s the USSR and USA conducted thousands of underground nuclear tests which revealed that when instantly converting solids to plasma an expansion wave mechanically pulverizes the area around the plasma zone. Pigs on the surface above carefully placed underground nuclear detonations had their bones pulverized inside intact skin. Operation Plowshares was a program to exploit such discoveries for peaceful uses. Dimitri Khalezov has a 20 video explanation. Google him.
Ok the spire turns to dust. But let's say it didn't. The rest of the building seems to have.... I mean do you people realize how much steel there was. And also how was everything pulverized? There is sooooooooooo much dust. Please keep ignoring that. Empirical people. That is what we have to be ad I can't get around the amount of dust and give a good explanation of why there would be massive amounts of dust without some unknown factor. Like a different type of tech used than just bombs a the li
@wallaceju Yea, I agree, were did all the rubble go? You would expect to see a huge pile of rubble there, even if they were demolished in a controled fashion. Instead what you see is an empty lobby with no rubble in it. Where is this " stack of pancakes they keep telling us about"?
Some people here have no idea what they are talking about. This is in fact the remanence of the core, often called the spire. There were 47 core columns that were much thicker toward the bottom, their area tapered off as it got higher. The 47 columns were contained in a rectangle and interconnected with cross-beams of structural steal. It has been described as a building within a building and housed stairways and elevator shafts. This was all re-inforced with concrete.
@95Stuffi I can clearly see it´s the core, the spire, of the Tower. The mass does not match the exterior of the building. History will show what it was.
@rockdahaus wether or not this is the core or the outer shell is irrelivant. The point is, it clearly turned to dust like the rest of the steal in the building, and the fileing cabnets.
@VisionXray23 The steal turned into dust? How? The concrete... Okay... but steal? What tunrs steal into dust? Time... yes... But not in seconds! Try again
And you are an idiot. There were a total of 47 huge, solid steel, core columns that supported the stucture. they were of course blown up.....that's why it turned to dust, jack ass.
they had decided in the construction phase, to build 110 instead of 85 floors (like the ESB)for each of the tower! Perhaps, therefore, the upper half of the towers built something lighter!?
anyone who thinks this is the outer corner of the building and not the core of the building,,,,,,,,is either confused,,,,,,,or idiotc,,,,,,,,or ignorant,,,,,,,,,,or just a manifestation of all three,,,,,,,,,and yest it does indeed for the most part get reduced to dust,,,,,,,,,how did this happen,,,,,,,use your heads morons,,,,,,,,it was not pancakes!,,,,,,,,the silly little pancake theory is not even remotely possible!
@akaHardUp Actually when the vid first starts, the line you see is a corner of the building. To the right is another corner & to the left you can just make out another corner. You are looking at the building directly at a corner. Put your mouse pointer on the middle corner. That's where the core would be. In the middle. Play the video and you will see that the columns standing are indeed exterior corner supports.
yes i initially thought that too.. but look at the 3 corners u can see before it goes down.. the 4th corner can be mapped from this.. and those still standing are not anywhere near those 4 corners
yes i initially thought that too.. but look at the 3 corners u can see before it goes down.. the 4th corner can be mapped from this.. and those still standing are not anywhere near those 4 corners
@IAmReallyAwesome0 hope you are joke, the world trade center had 47 big ass steel core colume beans centered where the elivator shafts were ect.. what the feck do you think held up that big ass tv atenna on the north tower.
@IAmReallyAwesome0 there were about 47 column core pillars. Numerous construction videos of the Towers and commentary from the builders describe and show the inner structure. Anyone with a comment to the contrary is doing so on purpose or has no clue and not bothered to review anything. For craps sake, the blueprints can be seen online.
@IAmReallyAwesome0 Are you crazy?? WTC did to have a core...A very strong one Built of steel columns. Learn your facts dude. And There is a startling amount of data that very much supports conspiracy. Did u see how those steel structures just turned into dust before your eyes??
This looks fake. But I do have to say, I just recently watched a documentary about the construction of the WTC, and they both were built with very strong, in fact, extra strong inner cores.
"Contrary to the FEMA's hedged assertion that the core columns were freestanding, construction photographs clearly show that large horizontal beams cross-connected the core columns in a three-dimensional matrix of steel."
911research has tremendous info on the wtc design.
@IAmReallyAwesome0 who mentioned concrete core? There is enough video and photo documentation prior during and finishing the construction of the Towers. The core column structure was fully detailed in its column numbers and dimensions. Blueprints are also available. To claim there was nore core is either complete lack of information or said on purpose as disinformation. usually it is more the latter because everyone has access to the countless videos of the creation.
@IAmReallyAwesome0 are you really this stupid? Just how do you get through the day in such a cloud of ignorance. There is far more than enough material showing the specific construction. Making such a comment is stupidity or for misinformation. Enough time has passed. No sympathy for the ignorant or disinformation clowns.
That spire is NOT the core. It's a section of the outside perimeter. See those large vertical steel beams? Those are the same beams that line the entire perimeter of the tower from top to bottom. They played a huge role in supporting the tower. Anyway, look at the position of the spire relative to WTC7. It is far to the right in the CNN longshot. The core of the tower would have been close to the center/center right of WTC 7 (meaning to the left of the spire).
You can clearly see the North Tower spire turn to dust in mid-air as it starts to fall ...... almost like it's molecular structure had been disrupted. There's strong evidence that Directed Energy Weapons were used on the towers. Go to drjudywood dot com for a detailed analysis.
@Chompy0091 I did look clearly .... I see it turning to dust. Like most of the rest of the two towers. Why did most of them turn to dust? There was nowhere near the debris left behind if they had simply collapsed into heaps of material. The material left from a collapse should have been about 13 stories high. It was less than three.
@sinetist07 if you look on simulations,made by scientists, you can see why so much dust and smoke was created. we have to think jet fuel is EXTREMELY flammable and can set alight into a firey inferno in minutes.also, the inner columns of the building was disrupted, causing the tower to fall. the amount of energy created can also add to the amount of smoke.
osama bin laden dont have the technology to disrupt the molecule strucure, so everything you said on your first comment is impossible.
@Chompy0091 ..... Osama Bin Laden??? .... You're really on the wrong track there. Looks like you've bought the "official STORY" ..... so be it. I could care less if you want to follow along with the brainwashing BS.
Not a controlled Demolition, because otherwise the entire building would have been leveled. If anyone knows that in a Demo, your ment to destory the entire thing, so what your seeing doesn't happen and people get hurt. So it can't have been, expically that is alot of the tower still standing and quite high. If the charges were placed on the sides and coullums then why didn't that side blow out? Interesting aint it. I'm sorry but that theory has been proved too many time before.
Working on the anti-conspiracy theorists who claimed a 'pancake' effect caused the collapse, you would have expected the whole core to have remained upright. Based on this video evidence it shows what was left of the core falling vertically in perfect free-fall which proves that there must have been explosions on the core too. I'm in the UK and I am not fooled by the government claims of terr0rist attax.
Sorry. The spire is 4-6 of the exterior columns about half way across a face of the tower. Note the uppermost 2 columns connected by the steel plates. (like a ladder) Those exterior columns are connected like that. The lower portion of that side was not as pulverized because the nuclear detonation was not exactly centered under the building. It still crumbled into the void created by perhaps a 150+ kiloton yield nuclear blast. see Dimitri Khalezov 9/11thology. The steel is pulverized. Nuclear.
@pieisgood928 I believe there have been videos showing part or a big section of what's left of it. I'll have to look through the videos I am familiar with......
Watch the pulverization and video and imagine your 33 ft of concrete becoming vapor alongside all the steel. Perhaps you will consider it deeper. You should view construction video of WTC too. Core steel was vaporized with no regard to its thickness because the pulverization mechanic of underground nuclear detonation does not discriminate in its effects.
Not core...spire is fascia perimeter. Box steel 2.5 inches thick. Spire is visible border of crush zone and damage zone...Khalezov.
Only the steel in ground zero melted. The crushed zone material fell into the inferno. Most of the powder is steel, not concrete. Because it is crushed it looks like concrete. Few have ever seen steel crushed into powder. So they think of concrete crushed. But the twins were steel, not concrete.
@StratusBlue powdered steel??? please lay off of the drugs you are using or prove beyond all doubt without babbling on and on just how the steel in the building turned to dust? plenty of concrete in there. no big concrete chunks when it came down. Plenty of videos of the building of the towers describe how much concrete was used. To make such a statement is so sad on your part I am not going to criticize somone who has no clue......do your research
@StratusBlue FYI (since you obviously have done none of your own research) Every level in each tower had 4 inches of concrete for flooring. So that's 40,000 sq feet, 4 inches thick X 110 X 2. In other words, that's a sht ton of concrete, you moron.
The pulverized towers were mostly steel. But still, that 33 feet of concrete was pulverized along with the steel in a uniform way ONLY explained by the underground nuclear detonation's characteristic pulverization mechanics.
Few are familiar with the mechanics. Check out Dimitri Khalezov's 911thology.
ya, either this building was built out of bullshit, or someone weakened the shit out of this building. either way inside job......even if you discarded all the scientific proof, the sad fact is there would still be overwhelming evidence that this was still an inside job
The 9/11 false flag did not execute properly. The inordinate delay in blowing up the "spire" in the North tower is one of so many things that did not go as planned. This across-the-board problem was likely a major factor in making the cover-up so sloppy that anybody in high school can see through it.
Fortunately for the 9/11 conspirators--and unfortunately for "us the people"--the censorship made up for it. As much as censors were overwhelmed on 9/11, by 9/12 they were in charge.
EVERYTHING TURNED TO DUST BEFORE IT STARTED TO FALL, BLOWN UP AND OUT THEN STARTED FALLING AT FREE FALL SPEED, DON'T NEED TO BE A ROCKET SCIENTIST, A THIRD GRADER SAW THAT AS IT HAPPENED.PLANE ONLY DAMAGED THE FLOORS OF IMPACT,AND SUCK PLANE UP LIKE A SPONGE.
@banzaimotorcross The building didn't completely turn to dust though. Some bits were pulverised, probably from the force it takes for a 110-storey building to collapse floor-by-floor
This is part of the outer wall, not the core. You can see it from some angles because it's on the side of the building. Also you can see that it resembles the wall structure, not the core structure.
None of the steel did. The floor trusses, weakened by the heat of the fires, sagged and pulled on the outer and inner structure of the towers. The stronger inner structure held up better than the outer structure which "bowed" inwards. Finally the outer columns had had enough and snapped, dropping one floor on another and momentum did the rest.
@tammyscotland weaken yeah probably, its not going to fall into the path of most resistance at freefall speed. for more information, research the Open Chemical Physics Journal of April of 2009 and read the peer reviewed report of the nanothermite discovered in dust samples from various locations. The physical evidence exists. You won't hear much about it unless you are researching..
@rushfan9thcmd 1) who peer-reviewed it? Way too many people who review articles on this aren't quite qualified to do it
2) With the amount of steel, aluminium and sulphur-based dry-wall in those buildings, finding them in dust samples isn't unusual. In fact, it's to be expected.
@tammyscotland no one peer reviewed it they paid to have it published, in a journal that "peer reviewed" a jibberish paper spit out by a computer program designed to prove that the journal was a joke.
@rushfan9thcmd peer reviewed? hardly...they paid to have the paper published, the bentham open chemical physics journal, is far from respected, you are going to have to do better, not to mention, dust samples had already been takenand tested numerous times, now 7 years later, steven jones finds nano(bullshit)thermite? you are aware the male of the house it was taken from was a welder?? You won't hear about it cause its a bogus paper, snake oil, garbage.
@djlunacee That being your position, we would all enjoy your specifics and verifiable proof that discredits the Journal and the scientists involved. If you have guts to claim fraud, prove it or shut up. Don't bother with blah blah blah unless you make trus facts of rany claim. We'll wait.......take your time...
@rushfan9thcmd you can start here; James Randi Educational Forums search for nanothermite, it was paint, the presence of kaolinite proves it, it is all there, sourced and referenced, the science is sound, which is more than I can say for your heroes Jones and Harrit. no more time needed. again learn a little logic, 4 studies of the dust at ground zero, none of the same results were found as Jones, there is no chain of custody for his sample, and they refuse to let anyone else examine it, why?
I can't believe people are still pushing this defunct 'n debunked pancake theory about weakened trusses... There just isn't a mechanism for this to happen. Look at the videos...these buildings are EXPLODING upward and outward and from the top down. There is NO solid piledriver effect going on...it's all disintegrating in mid-air. The use of explosives is the ONLY explanation for bone FRAGMENTS found on the TOPS of surrounding buildings and lateral ejection of MASSIVE steel.
@Karmathejedi1701 not the entire core. but its clear to see that it also just falls into itself for no apperant reason. only like 2 thirds of it is standing.
@noladol Yeah, wait a sec, what's with the Duh? wasn't this building made with a "core" that's more like an exoskeleton? if i'm wrong, fine i deserved the duh?, & people still understood me enough to get me the highest rated comment? now, if i'm right, you can take your & Duh, & well, i think you can use your imagination from there. Which side are you on anyway? that of Truth, or do you like the major cable news networks?
@Karmathejedi1701 Concrete doesn't melt. Neither did the steel - that was complete misinformation: studies done with 'assumptions' not actual evidence. No one in the government, NIST, or otherwise, has explained the collapse with credible evidence. No one! Truthers don't need to - all they have to do is prove the Official Report is bogus - and they have done so. An investigation MUST be conducted.
@VisionXray23 it doesn't disintegrate; it just falls, and what you see is dust being left behind in the air. i think it's newton's first law being put into action, don't quote me on it though
The steel looked like a melting stick of Butter, those beams were taller than tallestest buildings in 47 states and were of the HIGHEST grade the manfacturer has proven (Big reason China wanted that high grade steel cheap)
Lucky larry painted a joo Menorah on side of WTC 7 aka Solomon's 3rd Tower Of Babel,
@placidrocker I dare you to do some research into what was left over on 9-11. There was hardly anything left from those 110 story buildings. 9-11 was much more than " a new pearl harbor" as the " REBUILDING AMERICA's DEFENCES" document put it. 9-11 was also a new Hiroshima. An entirely new kind of weapon technology was used. This new weapon has the capeablity to disentagerate metal objects. The world trade center did not "colapse" it turned to dust and floated away. Dust and paper. Nothing else
@VisionXray23 I totally agree with you. When I look at photos of the dust clouds, they look exactly like the Mushroom clouds of Nuclear blasts. You hit the nail right on the head when you said "New Hiroshima." All the reports about the ignited jet fuel melting the steel is Bull Shit. Jet fuel reaches temperatures of 800 -1500 when ignited Steel requires temps of over 2000 to melt. hmmmm. what does that say?
@67diamondgirl Thanks, but that isn't exactly what I meant by "new Hiroshima". What I meant by that was like Hiroshima a compleatly new kind of weapons tech was use on 9-11. I think a nuke, even a tiny one would have been way more obvious. This new weapon is based on zero point energy, so it can disentigrate colums without heating them up. That's why the dust was't burning people. Research dr. Judy Wood. She wrote a 500 page book about this.Also research "the hutcheson effect".
@VisionXray23 I looked into that also. I read articles pertaining to the point your referring to. What caught my attention was how it all looked visually. Wouldn't the visual aspects still be the same? Hot or cold. It's still Nuclear. I would love to be able to back our Government 100% but think about it. Al Qaeda is supposedly hell bent on destroying us. Don't get me wrong I AM NOT BACKING THEM!! It seems to me that if they were to go Nuclear. They would go "Red Hot"
@67diamondgirl One of the characteristics of an atomic weapon is it creates a mushroom cloud that rises to the upper atmosphere at a high velocity. The fumes from the tower didn't do that. I think we can rule those out.
@67diamondgirl steel does not take 2000 degrees to melt. Get an Oxygen - Acetylene cutting torch and u can cut steel with that and it basically heats up steel to a point of melting and blows it away. if that was 2000 degrees do u really think you could hold the torch. NO get a Brain, also welding is the fusion of two metal surfaces by adding an electric current and filling wire now i know for surer that that soes not exceed 1000 degrees let alone 2000.
@67diamondgirl A length of steel like that would be made up of probably 5 or 6 9metre lengths That would b bolted or weled together in an assortment of different ways but would still require supporting beams to keep it rigid, now given that all its support just toppled away it is expected that welds would break, bolts would shear off. Fuck, it is likely the steel itself broke, the total wieght of the free standing beam woulod be massive and definately would not support itself
Freeze frame at 43 seconds. See the object, almost center screen, tilting over? it is center of the lower "step" of the Bld in the foreground. The Object is The Core of the WTC. The lower floors were encased in concrete. The core is tilting over and the "The Spire" seems to vaporize. The Spire is an exterior corner wall. The NW, I think
i think some of you may have missed it... the piece sticking up with the 'knuckle', which is made of solid steel of the highest quality, seems to vaporize into dust along with the rest of the core. i missed it the first few times but look again...i dont know what its all about but as a welder who knows a bit about steel, well, it just dont do that. i'm trying to find other footage independant of youtube to see if i can see it again...it aint right. not sayin its fake but if not its CRAZY.
Why is it that people keep saying it "vaporized"? The towers covered everything in dust why not the momentarily standing core of the building. Couldnt it have simply been the dust lifting off the core columns as it fell to the ground?
"Experts from the Convar Company in Pirmasens, Germany, are using their blue laser scanning technology to retrieve data from the damaged computers of banks, telecommunication companies, and other tenants from the WTC."
Henschel told AFP that up to the last moment, between the time that the first tower was hit until the second tower collapsed, there was an unusual increase in trading volume of between 5 and 10 times the normal volume.
One data recovery expert, Richard Wagner, has estimated that more than $100 million in illegal transactions appeared to have rushed through the WTC computers before and during the disaster.
even cops and lawyers know you have to build a case. You have to act like we were not prepared for this, we need time to plan.2 words Operation Northwood
Operation Northwood was shot down, no pun intended, by JFK after he told his advisers that, 'shooting yourself, to shoot another is not a good war strategy.'
I know it was shut down. I said operation northwood to show that you have to have a plan before you run and gun someone. You asked if it was oil why wait till 2003. Cause if they would have invaded Iraq right off the bat it would have seemed like the gov anticipated the attack and wanted it to happen for the sole reason to invade. Instead we went after to main guy in the allack, Osama, than said "well since we're here we might as well take out that dictator too." Iraq was always the main target.
search for Dick Cheneys reasons NOT to take out Saddam back during the Desert Storm than ask, "if Dick thought it was such a bad idea in the 90s, why was it a good idea now." It is the "quagmire" he says it would be.
Well because in 2003 he was going to launch a nuke any day. maybe a Thursday?
But Afghanistan was the bigger picture. The war on terror isnt all about oil and oil companies. It's the financial institutions that are the terrorists. The drug war is a perfect continuing example of why the Afghan war wont be won. Because banks launder the drug money. (heroin)
@cancanbiker "Well because in 2003 he was going to launch a nuke any day." Yes thats what we were told.....yet after 7+ years of war over that "fact" we still have NO PROOF Hussein had nukes...or any other type of WMD at all. Dont you think that is a long enough span of time to maybe have tracked them down? Oil money and power are the only things this war has been fought for.
lol pure sarcasm from me. The only thng you can achive from bombing oil rich nations is weapon sales, and higher oil prices. I dont even know if thet are pumping up much oil yet, but the fact oil has risen so much since 9/11 and Iraq doesnt not hurt oil companies.
Not commenting either way whether this is conspiracy or no, as my opinions are my own... but... I am just amazed at how people get instantly trolled for even DISCUSSING or THINKING about the idea of a conspiracy... OR the other way around. instead of being so goddamned hostile to each other, why don't we try to ask questions of one another?
I totally agree 1000% The way people stoop to insults and name calling in these "discussions" would make a sailor blush. No offense to sailors. I have tried to defend my viewpoints and observations and will continue to do so, but I do not tolerate name calling and verbal assault in my discussions. We need to pull TOGETHER to fight these BLATANT criminals.
you cant have a pancake collapse on vertical steel its impossible the steel below the plane crash was completely fine. its impossible for the building to come down like that. these buildings arent weak dude....they were the world trade center... not popsicle towers like u think they are..
Why didn't these remaining core structures fell to the side? I don't get it! Why does it look like they fell straight down, like all the fucking buildings on that fucking day?
You (both of you, the truthers and the blinded patriots) can argue and explain stuff all day long - there is still something fishy about 911 and even the arguing about 911 here on youtube and on the internet in general. God I hope, the world really ends 2012; then this whole shit would finally be over!
No dude, you totally miss the point here. You just can't lump people together and then insult them altogether. Yes, there are liars on the truther side. But there are also liars on the non-truther side. Also, there are truthers, who actually tell the truth as there are debunkers who tell the truth. And I am researching, that's why I try to get my information from different sources (and not only from 911reality,com - as one non-truther advised me to do).
I can lump truthers together because they believe in a lie and parrot lies. There is no legitimate argument on the truther side. Check out each argument, they are lies -- each every one -- or they are irrelevant.
Either way the movement is a lie, just as the Holocaust deniers are liars
No dude, you're wrong on this one, if you say that there is no legitimate argument on the truther side. There are doctors, professors, engineers - in other words people that smarter than you and me together - who support the truther side. You cannot just call them all idiots and that they don't have any legitimate argument. You can't deny, that they have some compelling evidence - otherwise you're on the same thin ice as the Holocaust deniers, who (we both agree on this one) are liars.
No no no, dude, don't steer away from the point I made: not all truthers are idiots and some truthers are smarter than you. Also, you should go beyond your own nose and try to watch some of the "hated twoofers" documentaries - even if it pains you. There is no best argument and even if I gave you one - you would likely try do debunk it in the way as RKOwens4 does with his 9/11 Debunked series. Additionally, I am pretty sure, that the "twoofers" already gave you dozens of really good arguments.
So let me see if I get you right. In your opinion, not only the laymen and people with shady background but also well educated people who know far more than you are liars and deliberately disinform people, right?
What about the possibility, that the same is happening on the non-truther side? That all laymen and people with shady background and also well educated people who know far more than you and me are liars and deliberately disinform people?
I won't and please go ahead and feel that you won an argument on youtube. I will occupy myself with the jref forum now.
My point still stands: stop calling people names and lump them all together. This is wrong from your perspective and this is also wrong from the truther's perspective (as many of the truthers also do rather insult than debate).
Also, I rather would stay general rather than taking one side, because for me (unlike for you or the truthers), there is still much unanswered.
The core disproves any controlled demolition theory...
AccessDenied55 2 months ago 2
@AccessDenied55 your method of scientific critical thinking is quite interesting. mayb you should test your scientific know how with Lynn Margulis. try finding here at the U. of Mass Amherst. She has only won the National Medal of Science Award and a few other merits. After you discuss your findings with here, be sure to let us know how it went..
rushfan9thcmd 2 months ago
@rushfan9thcmd Nah..
I know a few engineers & construction workers
They core would be the first thing to fall..
AccessDenied55 2 months ago
@AccessDenied55 interesting that you don't seem to be interested in dealing with national and International accredited Scientist and or Architects and Engineers. Maybe you could get an award for refuting the Architects and Engineers who have already come forward, or the scientist who have had the explosive materials confirmed by various independent labs now. Since no one can refute their factual science, their findings stand. I challenge you to scientifically refute the findings.
rushfan9thcmd 2 months ago
@rushfan9thcmd Wow! Thats some bad grammar. And i can tell you even used spell check. Because your "her" is spelled "here".
MegaYeshua33 2 months ago
@rushfan9thcmd BTW demolitionist have said that. I doubt any school teacher knows more about demolition, then the people who do it for a living do.
MegaYeshua33 2 months ago
fucking us government! you killed those innocent peoples!
northFRZ 4 months ago
@northFRZ blame the fuckin alqaeda pigs mate
BIGDANSTEELMAN 3 days ago
Looks like the main core beams were turning to dust as they fell....???
000deadcalm000 5 months ago
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VisionXray23 7 months ago
The steel "spire" appears to disintegrate before your eyes. It starts to fall and in the process of falling, it just absolutely disappears into thin air.
molitor2005 8 months ago
@molitor2005 These beams look like melting icecream. They look like a blocks of dryice with water getting poured on them. Iv'e never seen anything like it.
VisionXray23 8 months ago
Observe the material fall into a huge hole. In the second clip you can even see the cloud getting sucked into it. That hole is 100 meters and was created instantly. The "spire" is outer wall steel. The core steel was pulverized and fell into the hole. Only 4" of concrete per floor. The towers were thousands of tons of steel. You are looking at powdered steel.
StratusBlue 8 months ago
@StratusBlue What turns steal into dust? In seconds...?
rockdahaus 7 months ago
@rockdahaus Zero point energy weapons technology.
VisionXray23 7 months ago
@rockdahaus During the 50s and 60s the USSR and USA conducted thousands of underground nuclear tests which revealed that when instantly converting solids to plasma an expansion wave mechanically pulverizes the area around the plasma zone. Pigs on the surface above carefully placed underground nuclear detonations had their bones pulverized inside intact skin. Operation Plowshares was a program to exploit such discoveries for peaceful uses. Dimitri Khalezov has a 20 video explanation. Google him.
StratusBlue 7 months ago
That's amazing footage. Thanks for the post
Cadmium77 8 months ago
@Cadmium77
Agreed, didnt know that core stood up after the collapse.
GaCCow 8 months ago
Ok the spire turns to dust. But let's say it didn't. The rest of the building seems to have.... I mean do you people realize how much steel there was. And also how was everything pulverized? There is sooooooooooo much dust. Please keep ignoring that. Empirical people. That is what we have to be ad I can't get around the amount of dust and give a good explanation of why there would be massive amounts of dust without some unknown factor. Like a different type of tech used than just bombs a the li
wallaceju 9 months ago 2
@wallaceju Yea, I agree, were did all the rubble go? You would expect to see a huge pile of rubble there, even if they were demolished in a controled fashion. Instead what you see is an empty lobby with no rubble in it. Where is this " stack of pancakes they keep telling us about"?
VisionXray23 8 months ago
Did you see the steel turn to dust? lol 9/11 = 100% Inside Job
Born2Flesh 9 months ago
Well then. This completely destorys the planned demolition theory.
mkreps1 9 months ago
Now, what interests me is how it fell. The bottom gave out???'
Why?
horrorandmetalfan001 10 months ago
Some people here have no idea what they are talking about. This is in fact the remanence of the core, often called the spire. There were 47 core columns that were much thicker toward the bottom, their area tapered off as it got higher. The 47 columns were contained in a rectangle and interconnected with cross-beams of structural steal. It has been described as a building within a building and housed stairways and elevator shafts. This was all re-inforced with concrete.
horrorandmetalfan001 10 months ago
Idiot. This wasn´t the core. You can clearly see that its the side of the tower.
95Stuffi 10 months ago
@95Stuffi I can clearly see it´s the core, the spire, of the Tower. The mass does not match the exterior of the building. History will show what it was.
rockdahaus 8 months ago
@rockdahaus wether or not this is the core or the outer shell is irrelivant. The point is, it clearly turned to dust like the rest of the steal in the building, and the fileing cabnets.
VisionXray23 7 months ago
@VisionXray23 The steal turned into dust? How? The concrete... Okay... but steal? What tunrs steal into dust? Time... yes... But not in seconds! Try again
rockdahaus 7 months ago
@rockdahaus if u look closely u can see the concrete around the steel beams turn to dust and the beam keep falling really not that hard to see aye
BIGDANSTEELMAN 3 days ago
And you are an idiot. There were a total of 47 huge, solid steel, core columns that supported the stucture. they were of course blown up.....that's why it turned to dust, jack ass.
louie2able 11 months ago
they had decided in the construction phase, to build 110 instead of 85 floors (like the ESB)for each of the tower! Perhaps, therefore, the upper half of the towers built something lighter!?
74pbg 11 months ago
anyone who thinks this is the outer corner of the building and not the core of the building,,,,,,,,is either confused,,,,,,,or idiotc,,,,,,,,or ignorant,,,,,,,,,,or just a manifestation of all three,,,,,,,,,and yest it does indeed for the most part get reduced to dust,,,,,,,,,how did this happen,,,,,,,use your heads morons,,,,,,,,it was not pancakes!,,,,,,,,the silly little pancake theory is not even remotely possible!
bigbopper993 11 months ago
It is a testement to the integrity of these blgds that one could be blown to hell right next door & still stand till it's time. Use your noodle folks
MrNoblemanoflove 1 year ago
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akaHardUp 1 year ago
@akaHardUp Actually when the vid first starts, the line you see is a corner of the building. To the right is another corner & to the left you can just make out another corner. You are looking at the building directly at a corner. Put your mouse pointer on the middle corner. That's where the core would be. In the middle. Play the video and you will see that the columns standing are indeed exterior corner supports.
rubeeye127 1 year ago
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@rubeeye127
yes i initially thought that too.. but look at the 3 corners u can see before it goes down.. the 4th corner can be mapped from this.. and those still standing are not anywhere near those 4 corners
akaHardUp 1 year ago
@rubeeye127
yes i initially thought that too.. but look at the 3 corners u can see before it goes down.. the 4th corner can be mapped from this.. and those still standing are not anywhere near those 4 corners
ps i deleted my old comment by mistake
akaHardUp 1 year ago
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akaHardUp 1 year ago
@IAmReallyAwesome0 "comment like this desturb me"
trevpickering 1 year ago
@IAmReallyAwesome0 hope you are joke, the world trade center had 47 big ass steel core colume beans centered where the elivator shafts were ect.. what the feck do you think held up that big ass tv atenna on the north tower.
trevpickering 1 year ago
@IAmReallyAwesome0 OF COURSE THERE IS A CORE -everybodi knows there is CORE you idiot haw can you bild a skyskraper without a CORE you so stupid
shivacheev 1 year ago
@IAmReallyAwesome0 there were about 47 column core pillars. Numerous construction videos of the Towers and commentary from the builders describe and show the inner structure. Anyone with a comment to the contrary is doing so on purpose or has no clue and not bothered to review anything. For craps sake, the blueprints can be seen online.
rushfan9thcmd 1 year ago
@IAmReallyAwesome0 Are you crazy?? WTC did to have a core...A very strong one Built of steel columns. Learn your facts dude. And There is a startling amount of data that very much supports conspiracy. Did u see how those steel structures just turned into dust before your eyes??
RicanPapi2385 1 year ago
This looks fake. But I do have to say, I just recently watched a documentary about the construction of the WTC, and they both were built with very strong, in fact, extra strong inner cores.
navanod77 1 year ago
its wrong to say , they were poorly designed building???
CuzPBz 1 year ago
until today i would assume the twin towers to be some of the nastiest built towers by humans
i honestly believed that nothing could tear them down and i do so today
just look at the blueprints this thing is so massive it makes you puke
i am still believing the conspiracies rather than the official statements
they have to hide something if they are telling us this crap
dschingy 1 year ago
If the top part of the building crushed the lower floors, how would this core remain standing? It doesn't make sense.
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@IAmReallyAwesome0
"Contrary to the FEMA's hedged assertion that the core columns were freestanding, construction photographs clearly show that large horizontal beams cross-connected the core columns in a three-dimensional matrix of steel."
911research has tremendous info on the wtc design.
cancanbiker 1 year ago
@IAmReallyAwesome0
True it was NOT the Core
But it was Solid Matter - Missed by the initial colapse -
IT Dissolved into THIN AIR !
Did you see it or is your head still in the sand?
eadora 1 year ago
@IAmReallyAwesome0 who mentioned concrete core? There is enough video and photo documentation prior during and finishing the construction of the Towers. The core column structure was fully detailed in its column numbers and dimensions. Blueprints are also available. To claim there was nore core is either complete lack of information or said on purpose as disinformation. usually it is more the latter because everyone has access to the countless videos of the creation.
rushfan9thcmd 1 year ago 9
@IAmReallyAwesome0 are you really this stupid? Just how do you get through the day in such a cloud of ignorance. There is far more than enough material showing the specific construction. Making such a comment is stupidity or for misinformation. Enough time has passed. No sympathy for the ignorant or disinformation clowns.
rushfan9thcmd 1 year ago 9
That spire is NOT the core. It's a section of the outside perimeter. See those large vertical steel beams? Those are the same beams that line the entire perimeter of the tower from top to bottom. They played a huge role in supporting the tower. Anyway, look at the position of the spire relative to WTC7. It is far to the right in the CNN longshot. The core of the tower would have been close to the center/center right of WTC 7 (meaning to the left of the spire).
derekxnl 1 year ago
LOL? "the wtc didn't really have a center core" lol your fucking nuts kid.
picassodreams.c om/.a/6a00d83455ad0369e201053566d3df970b-800wi
Nuclear demolition.
disclose.tv/forum/dimitri-khalezov-wtc-nuclear-demolition-full-playlist-t21675.html
hgkjggjhgjhg 1 year ago
I just love how every video is PROOF of a conspiracy... except most of the conclusions are contradictory.
Tell me, just was is this video supposed to prove? Because I'm just not seeing the smoking gun.
Nash1a 1 year ago
@Nash1a i think it is just show the last part of the tower callapse
Chompy0091 1 year ago
You can clearly see the North Tower spire turn to dust in mid-air as it starts to fall ...... almost like it's molecular structure had been disrupted. There's strong evidence that Directed Energy Weapons were used on the towers. Go to drjudywood dot com for a detailed analysis.
sinetist07 1 year ago
@sinetist07 no its just smoke rising! you can clearly see the tip of the thing fall into the smoke, look clearly.
Chompy0091 1 year ago
@Chompy0091 I did look clearly .... I see it turning to dust. Like most of the rest of the two towers. Why did most of them turn to dust? There was nowhere near the debris left behind if they had simply collapsed into heaps of material. The material left from a collapse should have been about 13 stories high. It was less than three.
sinetist07 1 year ago
@sinetist07 if you look on simulations,made by scientists, you can see why so much dust and smoke was created. we have to think jet fuel is EXTREMELY flammable and can set alight into a firey inferno in minutes.also, the inner columns of the building was disrupted, causing the tower to fall. the amount of energy created can also add to the amount of smoke.
osama bin laden dont have the technology to disrupt the molecule strucure, so everything you said on your first comment is impossible.
Chompy0091 1 year ago
@Chompy0091 ..... Osama Bin Laden??? .... You're really on the wrong track there. Looks like you've bought the "official STORY" ..... so be it. I could care less if you want to follow along with the brainwashing BS.
sinetist07 1 year ago
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@sinetist07 oh here we go again, another fucking disrespectful conspiracist trying to cover up what actually happened on 911.
Chompy0091 1 year ago
Starting at :20 you can see it's getting pulled down.
dAMajorPayne 1 year ago
Not a controlled Demolition, because otherwise the entire building would have been leveled. If anyone knows that in a Demo, your ment to destory the entire thing, so what your seeing doesn't happen and people get hurt. So it can't have been, expically that is alot of the tower still standing and quite high. If the charges were placed on the sides and coullums then why didn't that side blow out? Interesting aint it. I'm sorry but that theory has been proved too many time before.
R.I.P
2Trueforyouu 1 year ago
yes they have found the antenae, they even put the american flag on it.
Jerbod2 1 year ago
Working on the anti-conspiracy theorists who claimed a 'pancake' effect caused the collapse, you would have expected the whole core to have remained upright. Based on this video evidence it shows what was left of the core falling vertically in perfect free-fall which proves that there must have been explosions on the core too. I'm in the UK and I am not fooled by the government claims of terr0rist attax.
caxtonman 1 year ago
That's not the core.
nerblebun 1 year ago
Sorry. The spire is 4-6 of the exterior columns about half way across a face of the tower. Note the uppermost 2 columns connected by the steel plates. (like a ladder) Those exterior columns are connected like that. The lower portion of that side was not as pulverized because the nuclear detonation was not exactly centered under the building. It still crumbled into the void created by perhaps a 150+ kiloton yield nuclear blast. see Dimitri Khalezov 9/11thology. The steel is pulverized. Nuclear.
StratusBlue 1 year ago
@StratusBlue There are no silent nuclear explosions. You lose.
leftysergeant 1 year ago
did they ever find the north towers tv antenae in the rubble anybody?
pieisgood928 1 year ago
@pieisgood928 I believe there have been videos showing part or a big section of what's left of it. I'll have to look through the videos I am familiar with......
rushfan9thcmd 1 year ago
@pieisgood928 google it
Quake4and6 1 year ago
@pieisgood928 yes
iSunTzu 1 year ago
@pieisgood928 yes, they did. A good portion of it is actually preserved at the evidence hangar in JFK in NY.
justin39640 1 year ago
@justin39640
Watch the pulverization and video and imagine your 33 ft of concrete becoming vapor alongside all the steel. Perhaps you will consider it deeper. You should view construction video of WTC too. Core steel was vaporized with no regard to its thickness because the pulverization mechanic of underground nuclear detonation does not discriminate in its effects.
StratusBlue 1 year ago
@pieisgood928 yes they have part of it in a museum in washington
TheMartinez19 1 year ago
Not core...spire is fascia perimeter. Box steel 2.5 inches thick. Spire is visible border of crush zone and damage zone...Khalezov.
Only the steel in ground zero melted. The crushed zone material fell into the inferno. Most of the powder is steel, not concrete. Because it is crushed it looks like concrete. Few have ever seen steel crushed into powder. So they think of concrete crushed. But the twins were steel, not concrete.
StratusBlue 1 year ago
@StratusBlue powdered steel??? please lay off of the drugs you are using or prove beyond all doubt without babbling on and on just how the steel in the building turned to dust? plenty of concrete in there. no big concrete chunks when it came down. Plenty of videos of the building of the towers describe how much concrete was used. To make such a statement is so sad on your part I am not going to criticize somone who has no clue......do your research
rushfan9thcmd 1 year ago
@StratusBlue FYI (since you obviously have done none of your own research) Every level in each tower had 4 inches of concrete for flooring. So that's 40,000 sq feet, 4 inches thick X 110 X 2. In other words, that's a sht ton of concrete, you moron.
justin39640 1 year ago
@justin39640
4 inches X 100 floors is 33ft
Are you angry?
The pulverized towers were mostly steel. But still, that 33 feet of concrete was pulverized along with the steel in a uniform way ONLY explained by the underground nuclear detonation's characteristic pulverization mechanics.
Few are familiar with the mechanics. Check out Dimitri Khalezov's 911thology.
StratusBlue 1 year ago
ya, either this building was built out of bullshit, or someone weakened the shit out of this building. either way inside job......even if you discarded all the scientific proof, the sad fact is there would still be overwhelming evidence that this was still an inside job
scoretosettle 1 year ago
The 9/11 false flag did not execute properly. The inordinate delay in blowing up the "spire" in the North tower is one of so many things that did not go as planned. This across-the-board problem was likely a major factor in making the cover-up so sloppy that anybody in high school can see through it.
Fortunately for the 9/11 conspirators--and unfortunately for "us the people"--the censorship made up for it. As much as censors were overwhelmed on 9/11, by 9/12 they were in charge.
Love,
DanUuNoel 1 year ago
Typical steel, look at it hard and *POOF* gone. Happened to my car the other day, nothing unusual there:P
roxxphatcox 1 year ago
EVERYTHING TURNED TO DUST BEFORE IT STARTED TO FALL, BLOWN UP AND OUT THEN STARTED FALLING AT FREE FALL SPEED, DON'T NEED TO BE A ROCKET SCIENTIST, A THIRD GRADER SAW THAT AS IT HAPPENED.PLANE ONLY DAMAGED THE FLOORS OF IMPACT,AND SUCK PLANE UP LIKE A SPONGE.
banzaimotorcross 1 year ago
@banzaimotorcross The building didn't completely turn to dust though. Some bits were pulverised, probably from the force it takes for a 110-storey building to collapse floor-by-floor
tammyscotland 1 year ago
the steel just turns to dust
leoshappy 1 year ago
theres no money in peace.
they needed to start a war.
jazzmaster1972 1 year ago
steal beams or concrete do NOT just vaporize into dust
woddensoapbox 1 year ago
This is part of the outer wall, not the core. You can see it from some angles because it's on the side of the building. Also you can see that it resembles the wall structure, not the core structure.
Juhobui 1 year ago
isn't this the same core that "melted"?
Karmathejedi1701 1 year ago 12
@Karmathejedi1701 The core didn't melt lol.
None of the steel did. The floor trusses, weakened by the heat of the fires, sagged and pulled on the outer and inner structure of the towers. The stronger inner structure held up better than the outer structure which "bowed" inwards. Finally the outer columns had had enough and snapped, dropping one floor on another and momentum did the rest.
tammyscotland 1 year ago
@tammyscotland weaken yeah probably, its not going to fall into the path of most resistance at freefall speed. for more information, research the Open Chemical Physics Journal of April of 2009 and read the peer reviewed report of the nanothermite discovered in dust samples from various locations. The physical evidence exists. You won't hear much about it unless you are researching..
rushfan9thcmd 1 year ago
@rushfan9thcmd 1) who peer-reviewed it? Way too many people who review articles on this aren't quite qualified to do it
2) With the amount of steel, aluminium and sulphur-based dry-wall in those buildings, finding them in dust samples isn't unusual. In fact, it's to be expected.
tammyscotland 1 year ago
@tammyscotland Is it expected to find unreacted thermite after a building collapse?
Bold claim:)
roxxphatcox 1 year ago
@tammyscotland no one peer reviewed it they paid to have it published, in a journal that "peer reviewed" a jibberish paper spit out by a computer program designed to prove that the journal was a joke.
djlunacee 1 year ago
@rushfan9thcmd peer reviewed? hardly...they paid to have the paper published, the bentham open chemical physics journal, is far from respected, you are going to have to do better, not to mention, dust samples had already been takenand tested numerous times, now 7 years later, steven jones finds nano(bullshit)thermite? you are aware the male of the house it was taken from was a welder?? You won't hear about it cause its a bogus paper, snake oil, garbage.
djlunacee 1 year ago
@djlunacee That being your position, we would all enjoy your specifics and verifiable proof that discredits the Journal and the scientists involved. If you have guts to claim fraud, prove it or shut up. Don't bother with blah blah blah unless you make trus facts of rany claim. We'll wait.......take your time...
rushfan9thcmd 1 year ago
@rushfan9thcmd you can start here; James Randi Educational Forums search for nanothermite, it was paint, the presence of kaolinite proves it, it is all there, sourced and referenced, the science is sound, which is more than I can say for your heroes Jones and Harrit. no more time needed. again learn a little logic, 4 studies of the dust at ground zero, none of the same results were found as Jones, there is no chain of custody for his sample, and they refuse to let anyone else examine it, why?
djlunacee 1 year ago
@tammyscotland
I can't believe people are still pushing this defunct 'n debunked pancake theory about weakened trusses... There just isn't a mechanism for this to happen. Look at the videos...these buildings are EXPLODING upward and outward and from the top down. There is NO solid piledriver effect going on...it's all disintegrating in mid-air. The use of explosives is the ONLY explanation for bone FRAGMENTS found on the TOPS of surrounding buildings and lateral ejection of MASSIVE steel.
FreshKillsJustice 1 year ago
@tammyscotland no there were bombs
doughnutman777 1 year ago
@doughnutman777 Really? Prove it
tammyscotland 1 year ago
@Karmathejedi1701 not the entire core. but its clear to see that it also just falls into itself for no apperant reason. only like 2 thirds of it is standing.
Zonde32 1 year ago
@Karmathejedi1701 The lava pools were found 1 to 4 stories underground.
trooper629 1 year ago
@Karmathejedi1701 No, that is the side of the building. The core would be located in the middle. Duh?
noladol 1 year ago 2
@noladol & what was the official reason it went down again?
Karmathejedi1701 1 year ago
@noladol Yeah, wait a sec, what's with the Duh? wasn't this building made with a "core" that's more like an exoskeleton? if i'm wrong, fine i deserved the duh?, & people still understood me enough to get me the highest rated comment? now, if i'm right, you can take your & Duh, & well, i think you can use your imagination from there. Which side are you on anyway? that of Truth, or do you like the major cable news networks?
Karmathejedi1701 1 year ago
@Karmathejedi1701 Maybe I didn't understand you, but just in case...
Core: The central or innermost part.
Exoskeleton: A hard, protective outer body covering.
Unless I missed something?
Also, a "lol" for the record.
noladol 1 year ago
@Karmathejedi1701 Concrete doesn't melt. Neither did the steel - that was complete misinformation: studies done with 'assumptions' not actual evidence. No one in the government, NIST, or otherwise, has explained the collapse with credible evidence. No one! Truthers don't need to - all they have to do is prove the Official Report is bogus - and they have done so. An investigation MUST be conducted.
milackk7 10 months ago
@Karmathejedi1701 It got so hot from all the burning file cabinets that the structural Steel turned inot powder
Yea, yea, thats the ticket !
SAYYOURROSARY 9 months ago
@Karmathejedi1701 This isn't the core. this is part of the outer shell of the building. look at how it disentigrates in mid air.
VisionXray23 8 months ago
@VisionXray23 it doesn't disintegrate; it just falls, and what you see is dust being left behind in the air. i think it's newton's first law being put into action, don't quote me on it though
placidrocker 8 months ago
@placidrocker
The steel looked like a melting stick of Butter, those beams were taller than tallestest buildings in 47 states and were of the HIGHEST grade the manfacturer has proven (Big reason China wanted that high grade steel cheap)
Lucky larry painted a joo Menorah on side of WTC 7 aka Solomon's 3rd Tower Of Babel,
Guess who were tenants in Tower of Bable ?
euro944t 8 months ago
@placidrocker I dare you to do some research into what was left over on 9-11. There was hardly anything left from those 110 story buildings. 9-11 was much more than " a new pearl harbor" as the " REBUILDING AMERICA's DEFENCES" document put it. 9-11 was also a new Hiroshima. An entirely new kind of weapon technology was used. This new weapon has the capeablity to disentagerate metal objects. The world trade center did not "colapse" it turned to dust and floated away. Dust and paper. Nothing else
VisionXray23 7 months ago 2
@VisionXray23 I totally agree with you. When I look at photos of the dust clouds, they look exactly like the Mushroom clouds of Nuclear blasts. You hit the nail right on the head when you said "New Hiroshima." All the reports about the ignited jet fuel melting the steel is Bull Shit. Jet fuel reaches temperatures of 800 -1500 when ignited Steel requires temps of over 2000 to melt. hmmmm. what does that say?
67diamondgirl 7 months ago
@67diamondgirl Thanks, but that isn't exactly what I meant by "new Hiroshima". What I meant by that was like Hiroshima a compleatly new kind of weapons tech was use on 9-11. I think a nuke, even a tiny one would have been way more obvious. This new weapon is based on zero point energy, so it can disentigrate colums without heating them up. That's why the dust was't burning people. Research dr. Judy Wood. She wrote a 500 page book about this.Also research "the hutcheson effect".
VisionXray23 7 months ago
@VisionXray23 I looked into that also. I read articles pertaining to the point your referring to. What caught my attention was how it all looked visually. Wouldn't the visual aspects still be the same? Hot or cold. It's still Nuclear. I would love to be able to back our Government 100% but think about it. Al Qaeda is supposedly hell bent on destroying us. Don't get me wrong I AM NOT BACKING THEM!! It seems to me that if they were to go Nuclear. They would go "Red Hot"
67diamondgirl 7 months ago
@67diamondgirl One of the characteristics of an atomic weapon is it creates a mushroom cloud that rises to the upper atmosphere at a high velocity. The fumes from the tower didn't do that. I think we can rule those out.
VisionXray23 7 months ago
@VisionXray23 Well I hope so.
67diamondgirl 7 months ago
@67diamondgirl steel does not take 2000 degrees to melt. Get an Oxygen - Acetylene cutting torch and u can cut steel with that and it basically heats up steel to a point of melting and blows it away. if that was 2000 degrees do u really think you could hold the torch. NO get a Brain, also welding is the fusion of two metal surfaces by adding an electric current and filling wire now i know for surer that that soes not exceed 1000 degrees let alone 2000.
BIGDANSTEELMAN 3 days ago
@67diamondgirl A length of steel like that would be made up of probably 5 or 6 9metre lengths That would b bolted or weled together in an assortment of different ways but would still require supporting beams to keep it rigid, now given that all its support just toppled away it is expected that welds would break, bolts would shear off. Fuck, it is likely the steel itself broke, the total wieght of the free standing beam woulod be massive and definately would not support itself
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katlovesall 1 year ago
looked into it...this footage has been fucked with
zedzarba 1 year ago
It's almost ghostlike to see the core
krayzeejojo 1 year ago
looks like they missed a few charges there :o but nvm.... the last bombs in the demolition kaskade made short work of enything left...
hostesaft83 2 years ago
Freeze frame at 43 seconds. See the object, almost center screen, tilting over? it is center of the lower "step" of the Bld in the foreground. The Object is The Core of the WTC. The lower floors were encased in concrete. The core is tilting over and the "The Spire" seems to vaporize. The Spire is an exterior corner wall. The NW, I think
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
i think some of you may have missed it... the piece sticking up with the 'knuckle', which is made of solid steel of the highest quality, seems to vaporize into dust along with the rest of the core. i missed it the first few times but look again...i dont know what its all about but as a welder who knows a bit about steel, well, it just dont do that. i'm trying to find other footage independant of youtube to see if i can see it again...it aint right. not sayin its fake but if not its CRAZY.
zedzarba 2 years ago
Why is it that people keep saying it "vaporized"? The towers covered everything in dust why not the momentarily standing core of the building. Couldnt it have simply been the dust lifting off the core columns as it fell to the ground?
thecandidate0607 1 year ago
@thecandidate0607
I think you are correct.
"Experts from the Convar Company in Pirmasens, Germany, are using their blue laser scanning technology to retrieve data from the damaged computers of banks, telecommunication companies, and other tenants from the WTC."
Henschel told AFP that up to the last moment, between the time that the first tower was hit until the second tower collapsed, there was an unusual increase in trading volume of between 5 and 10 times the normal volume.
cancanbiker 1 year ago
@cancanbiker
One data recovery expert, Richard Wagner, has estimated that more than $100 million in illegal transactions appeared to have rushed through the WTC computers before and during the disaster.
cancanbiker 1 year ago
working for several years forging steel
steel at temperature of 1200 degrees centigrade
bends in different ways
to melt the steel it needs only a plane for that
Bush and his administration were the ones who demolished the buildings
the ambition of the oil
are the last two decades of oil
during those two decades it will sell electric cars and hybrids
mandi012 2 years ago
@mandi012
If we wanted the oil, why did we wait until 2003 to invade Iraq?
CapitalistOverlord 2 years ago
even cops and lawyers know you have to build a case. You have to act like we were not prepared for this, we need time to plan.2 words Operation Northwood
cpoky 1 year ago
@cpoky
Operation Northwood was shot down, no pun intended, by JFK after he told his advisers that, 'shooting yourself, to shoot another is not a good war strategy.'
CapitalistOverlord 1 year ago
I know it was shut down. I said operation northwood to show that you have to have a plan before you run and gun someone. You asked if it was oil why wait till 2003. Cause if they would have invaded Iraq right off the bat it would have seemed like the gov anticipated the attack and wanted it to happen for the sole reason to invade. Instead we went after to main guy in the allack, Osama, than said "well since we're here we might as well take out that dictator too." Iraq was always the main target.
cpoky 1 year ago
search for Dick Cheneys reasons NOT to take out Saddam back during the Desert Storm than ask, "if Dick thought it was such a bad idea in the 90s, why was it a good idea now." It is the "quagmire" he says it would be.
cpoky 1 year ago
@cpoky
Well because in 2003 he was going to launch a nuke any day. maybe a Thursday?
But Afghanistan was the bigger picture. The war on terror isnt all about oil and oil companies. It's the financial institutions that are the terrorists. The drug war is a perfect continuing example of why the Afghan war wont be won. Because banks launder the drug money. (heroin)
cancanbiker 1 year ago
@cancanbiker "Well because in 2003 he was going to launch a nuke any day." Yes thats what we were told.....yet after 7+ years of war over that "fact" we still have NO PROOF Hussein had nukes...or any other type of WMD at all. Dont you think that is a long enough span of time to maybe have tracked them down? Oil money and power are the only things this war has been fought for.
unafraidtruther 1 year ago
@unafraidtruther
lol pure sarcasm from me. The only thng you can achive from bombing oil rich nations is weapon sales, and higher oil prices. I dont even know if thet are pumping up much oil yet, but the fact oil has risen so much since 9/11 and Iraq doesnt not hurt oil companies.
cancanbiker 1 year ago
@cancanbiker
* doesnt hurt oil companies**
cancanbiker 1 year ago
Not commenting either way whether this is conspiracy or no, as my opinions are my own... but... I am just amazed at how people get instantly trolled for even DISCUSSING or THINKING about the idea of a conspiracy... OR the other way around. instead of being so goddamned hostile to each other, why don't we try to ask questions of one another?
MeanderingBeing 2 years ago 7
@MeanderingBeing
I totally agree 1000% The way people stoop to insults and name calling in these "discussions" would make a sailor blush. No offense to sailors. I have tried to defend my viewpoints and observations and will continue to do so, but I do not tolerate name calling and verbal assault in my discussions. We need to pull TOGETHER to fight these BLATANT criminals.
FreshKillsJustice 1 year ago
wow I have never seen this
ogschizo 2 years ago
what is it with that thing sticking up?? i dont get it.. it just falls... someone help?
XlilminxX 2 years ago
Well it starts tilting so torque breaks columns lower down.
Weirdo10o4 2 years ago
That's the core of the tower.
Conspiracy theorists say it would of stayed up if the pancake theory was true.
It stayed up, then fell.
CapitalistOverlord 2 years ago
what they mean is it would still be standing hundreds of feet in the air for a long long time not just for 10 seconds like it did there.
NWOmustfall 2 years ago
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The plane crashed through the already weak core. This would cause the pancake effect.
CapitalistOverlord 2 years ago
you cant have a pancake collapse on vertical steel its impossible the steel below the plane crash was completely fine. its impossible for the building to come down like that. these buildings arent weak dude....they were the world trade center... not popsicle towers like u think they are..
NWOmustfall 2 years ago
@NWOmustfall
The steel only has to weaken, for the weight on top to cause a structural collapse.
CapitalistOverlord 2 years ago
Yes they can. The lower intact structure could not support the weight of the falling upper section.
thedman113 2 years ago
That looks a lot like hundreds of feet in the air.
CapitalistOverlord 2 years ago
@CapitalistOverlord
yes well above wtc 7 standing 600 feet. NIST said it was 60 stories I think.
I'm sure they had a bogus explanation for it though cant remember what .
Kind of like the molten "aluminum" from the plane pouring out the building shortly before collapse.
cancanbiker 1 year ago
watch?v=8YaFGSPErKU - Molten steel found 6 & 8 weeks later
watch?v=74qazOMbl6k - Molten Steel vs. Molten Aluminum
watch?v=FqUEJkSCxS4 - Bush Says Explosives Used On 9/11
TrutherD1 2 years ago
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CaptainBuckSnort 2 years ago
Why didn't these remaining core structures fell to the side? I don't get it! Why does it look like they fell straight down, like all the fucking buildings on that fucking day?
You (both of you, the truthers and the blinded patriots) can argue and explain stuff all day long - there is still something fishy about 911 and even the arguing about 911 here on youtube and on the internet in general. God I hope, the world really ends 2012; then this whole shit would finally be over!
whiterottenrabbit 2 years ago
Buildings do not behave like jenga blocks, that is why the buildings did not fall to the side
Truthers lie and repeat lies, no truther lies ever dies
when debunkers use the same argument over and over is because its the TRUTH
research on your own and you will see truthers for the liars they are
Denierbud11 2 years ago
No dude, you totally miss the point here. You just can't lump people together and then insult them altogether. Yes, there are liars on the truther side. But there are also liars on the non-truther side. Also, there are truthers, who actually tell the truth as there are debunkers who tell the truth. And I am researching, that's why I try to get my information from different sources (and not only from 911reality,com - as one non-truther advised me to do).
whiterottenrabbit 2 years ago
I can lump truthers together because they believe in a lie and parrot lies. There is no legitimate argument on the truther side. Check out each argument, they are lies -- each every one -- or they are irrelevant.
Either way the movement is a lie, just as the Holocaust deniers are liars
simple concept
Denierbud11 2 years ago
No dude, you're wrong on this one, if you say that there is no legitimate argument on the truther side. There are doctors, professors, engineers - in other words people that smarter than you and me together - who support the truther side. You cannot just call them all idiots and that they don't have any legitimate argument. You can't deny, that they have some compelling evidence - otherwise you're on the same thin ice as the Holocaust deniers, who (we both agree on this one) are liars.
whiterottenrabbit 2 years ago
Ok then give me the best argument you have in support of the truth movement
Denierbud11 2 years ago
No no no, dude, don't steer away from the point I made: not all truthers are idiots and some truthers are smarter than you. Also, you should go beyond your own nose and try to watch some of the "hated twoofers" documentaries - even if it pains you. There is no best argument and even if I gave you one - you would likely try do debunk it in the way as RKOwens4 does with his 9/11 Debunked series. Additionally, I am pretty sure, that the "twoofers" already gave you dozens of really good arguments.
whiterottenrabbit 2 years ago
I've watched every significant truther documentary -- they are basically lies and misrepresentations
and yes, even the educated ones are either liars or a deliberately missrepresenting the facts to further their own agenda, which is often fininacial
and no, no twoofer has ever given me a good argument
go to JREF FORUM
Denierbud11 2 years ago
So let me see if I get you right. In your opinion, not only the laymen and people with shady background but also well educated people who know far more than you are liars and deliberately disinform people, right?
What about the possibility, that the same is happening on the non-truther side? That all laymen and people with shady background and also well educated people who know far more than you and me are liars and deliberately disinform people?
whiterottenrabbit 2 years ago
rather than speaking in generalities, just bring your best argument
or at least cite who you think is credible on the truther side
Denierbud11 2 years ago
I won't and please go ahead and feel that you won an argument on youtube. I will occupy myself with the jref forum now.
My point still stands: stop calling people names and lump them all together. This is wrong from your perspective and this is also wrong from the truther's perspective (as many of the truthers also do rather insult than debate).
Also, I rather would stay general rather than taking one side, because for me (unlike for you or the truthers), there is still much unanswered.
whiterottenrabbit 2 years ago
What is unanswered?
feel free to bring your unanswered questiont to JREF = they will be answered there
Denierbud11 2 years ago
Relax, buddy. I will only register there, if this is an unbiased forum - which I start to doubt.
whiterottenrabbit 2 years ago