You see what homophobic people don't understand is this, that being gay is wrong for a straight person, because a straight person is straight. Just as trying to be straight for a gay person is wrong because a gay person is gay and not straight.
If religions did not say that homosexuality was wrong, most people would simply see two gay people as two people in love.
If God is all powerful, all wise and just created the universe, then it would have been child's play for this God to have written a book which had timeless morals and ethics which would apply to any culture in any time period of human history which could never be misinterpreted.
Show me the money. The Bible is what one would expect from tribal Middle Eastern bigoted, intolerance ancient men, trying to explain the world around them. The Bible is not one would expect from an all knowing God.
When a religious text says that gay is wrong, then their believers say it's wrong. In the Old Testament, Leviticus 20:13 it says that gay is wrong. However, three verses before in Leviticus 20:9 it says that parents can kill their child who curses them.
Believer scoff when this is brought up and say that Lev. 20:9 doesn't apply in today's culture but insist that Lev. 20:13 does. This is called cherry picking the Bible.
Who is one of the major funders of the Boy Scouts of America? The Mormon Church. What allows them to have a hatred against gays and atheists? Their religious texts. This is the danger that religious organizations pose to society. Religions allow normally moral people do, act or think in immoral ways and then claim they are being moral.
Science is in the business of discovering the nature of how our world works. Science welcomes new information, criticism and revision. Religion dislikes criticism. Science says think. Religion says believe. Which is the wiser proposition?
“Religion is the one area of our discourse where it is considered noble to pretend to be certain about things no human being could possibly be certain about.” —Sam Harris
This is a powerful video. Your words, though, detract from your cause. By generalizing your attack to all religions and faiths, you offend potential allies in your cause, create more division, and reveal your own ignorance. The sons of Abraham religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) are among the youngest religions, and they comprise a minority religion worldwide. Only Christians use the Bible. Other religions and faiths are inclusive and tolerant but aren't as naive as believing in Santa.
@magicbeet All religions are simply mythology. What are religions? Failed science. What is the better message? That's it's okay to fool ourselves? That's it's okay to join an exclusive club and claim divine origin? Or that we all share the same humanity. We did not have join any "divine" club when we were born, we were born into humanity.
So are you saying you wouldn't want straight girls around your 12-17 year old son? Have you ever actually met a gay person, or have you just heard Pat Robertson spitting out hateful nonsense from his mouth?
I did look it up and found nothing to support your theory. The BSA is funded through the FOS program, or Friends of Scouting, who donate money to their respective councils. If you have a source that I can view to support your claim let me know.
@BoyScout464 I'm sorry, I should have said public funding, not tax payer funding. That part was incorrect. A quick Google search of "BSA public funding" will bring up many articles about how the Boy Scouts have stopped using public funding.
the bsa can do what the law says they can and a moral of the scouts is patriotism. but they should do as god would want which is a larger moral of Christianity. gods disciples were not perfect and were tax collectors and sinners. but were surrounded by gods influence which can apply to scouting too. if a atheist is not allowed than he has no refuge of his religion but if he is surrounded by christens who care about them they have a chance which is another scout moral helping others
as for gays one of the scouts morals is respecting ones differences which cant be upholded with discrimination upon sexual orientation, gender, or religion BSA you can do what you can but you should do whats right and what follows your own values follow the laws you promised to uphold to your nation including freedom of religion and respect of races or deal with me and all who agree with the injustice you have created and believe or rewrite the scout oath and law to the morals you demonstrate.
Pledge: To myself, my friends my family and my community. I promise To always be true in action,honourable in mind. To respect others and value the Foundations. Five Foundations for good living. .The Importance of the Induvidual. .To care for the World our Home .That equality is for all. .That Knowlegde is the key and .The inherent value of community. Interested? Contact me, its time there was an org that teaches real values.
This policy goes against every scouting value as i have learned. I'm a scout for 14 years, but in the states a so called sisterorganisation would'nt allow me because i'm an atheist
BTW It wouldn't be so terrible if there was an alternative for those they discriminate but BSA is the only official scouting organisation and is very protective of that status, if there would be multiple scoutingorganisations (like in many countries)those excluded by BSA could join other scouting organisation
But you get governemnt support! Legally, dicrimination is not allowed in the U.S.A and so should not be allowed in any organisation that is payed for taxes. Why should non-Christians and homosexuals pay for an organisation that excludes them?
the Boy Scouts of America are technicaly a privrate group so they can justify there rules on a tecnicallity that they can set there own admission policys HOWEVER the BSA receive alot of goverment suport that should really be cut of if the BSA wish to remain private
The effort to turn from this sin is what God requires. Think of it this way, if I went up to you and slapped you in the face, and a week later said I was really sorry you'd probably believe me. Now If I continue to engage in this behavior every day, and try to justify it to myself I'm probably not sorry ! This is the problem with homosexuality.
Clemburke, interesting point, however, I do believe you are mistaken. Here's why, when a teenager for example is disobedient, if they are God fearing they will ask for forgiveness. Additionally, if they are truely repentent they will try not to commit the offence again. In the case of homosexuality, homosexuals are attempting, in my opinion, to justify this sin, and more importantly, not making a concerted effort to turn from it.
How sad is that this poor organization is being targeted by some homosexual organization. The problem is that gays and lesbos can't get it through there heads that some people believe that this behavior is WRONG !!! So why should parents who have a conscience, and don't want their kids exposed to that lifestyle be punished for it? Gays should form the gayscouts or something if they're that upset over this. Reality is, according to the bible, homosexuals are going to hell for this sin.
steven I do not think you have thought this one out, if homosexuals are going to hell then some one that is slightly chubby is going to hell for Glutony ,or a teenager who is disobediant is going to hell , if the bible were to have its way we all would be in flames,,and not just flaming.
Will u F***ing Christians stop saying 'oh the bible this' and 'the bible that' thebible is a stupid book writen my sexist,racist,scientificly ignorant men and has been miss translated over and over im gona say this clearly...
if any group in a flemish association would have such a membership policy, the court probably wouldn't even have to decide, they would face serious consequenses within their respective association
i was reading through some old scouting books, and this is a quote from a book for 3rd graders. "americas forfounders found it importand to worship god anyway we want to" this is in addition to sugesting that god exists, it is also saying that there is 1 god, probably the 1 from the bible, and saying without doubt that that is the one god. thats 1 reason i quit scouts
Scouts promote freedom of religion. So, if there's a badge for ignorance and bigotry toward gays, I am sure any old 'god' out there would love for you to get one. However, through Jesus Christ some of us are caught up into the One True God's life, where beyond hate, Love abides!
By the way, "morally straight" has nothing to do with heterosexual versus gay. Morally straight has nothing to do with sexuality. "Morally straight" means to be completely honest and straight forward. Look it up and don't be so ignorant.
And... I won't admit to anyone that I'm a sexual bigot at its finest, so I'll just say that God says it's wrong so that I can hate others, and in fact, to hate others in the name of God. I also will not admit that I'm intolerant of people with a sexuality that's different than mine and refuse to admit that there could ever be any sexual diversity amongst the more than 6 billion people on planet earth.
When you say that gay is wrong per the Bible, what you are really stating is that you hate gays (or say that being gay is wrong) because a gay person does not have your own sexuality. So, your real conclusion is this, anyone who has a different sexuality than mine, is wrong sexually, because you don't have my own sexuality.
We are talking about the Middle East a couple of thousand years ago, image how much more of a male-centric society it was back in Biblical times. Fast forward to the Middle East of today and it's still heavily male-centric. You don't even have to look at the Middle East, most cultures are still very much male-centric, the struggle for equality will be fought for hundreds if not thousands of years. In Biblical days—of course—they thought that the male sperm was the entire baby.
Now you know why the Bible says homosexual sex, masturbation and pulling out, were wrong. The science of the Biblical days was incorrect. The misinterpretation of the Bible will always allow people to promote their own bigotry and prejudice and allow themselves to justify their own hateful and intolerant views of others.
an atheist/agnostic/not brain dead person is open to new ideas and will discard old ones if the new idea is teasted and proved beond reasonable doubt EVERYONE of the above mentioned groups would discard evalution if a better stronger theory was brought into light but so far none have been produced (btw ID is pathetic)
an atheist/agnostic/not brain dead person is open to new ideas and will discard old ones if the new idea is teasted and proved beond reasonable doubt EVERYONE of the above mentioned groups would discard evalution if a better stronger theory was brought into light but so far none have been produced (btw ID is pathetic)
i agree he hung around with him because he realized that they had a influence, but he had a stronger one that could shape their lives the BSA would give these people the chance jesus would if it wasn't for their rules. there rules contradicts with are countrys laws that they agreed to as well as the scouting morals of which they created. if a homosexual knew the rules his speech would most likely not be free just because of the consequences of who he is. a contradiction to freedom of speech.
so even if i stand next to you reach into the sky and pulled the God of any monotheistic religion from the sky and ask him/her/it whether he/she/it created the universe and they told us that it was already there when they came along you would still belive in a book that has been translated more than any other and tells of splitting the sea,unburning fire, a cosmic jewish zombie (jesus) and a rib woman???
in the 3 book shops near where i live i looked for the bible out of curiosity and they are all in the fiction section... as they should be (one was right next to 'just so stories) it made me smile =]
LOTR is one of my fav stories, but you obviously have never heard of the political symbolism in the book. do some research on it. its one of the reasons liberals wanted it on the banned book list (along WITH the bible).
you were prob in book stores with liberal minded owners. all book stores where i live have the bible under religion; where it belongs.
dont pull that shit about all christains not believeing in evolution. there are a lot us that think ID is a bunch of crap
Why call it the seed? Hello, world, wake up! Because they thought it was the entire baby. The science of the day was, just as you plant an apple seed in the ground and it grows in the soil to become a tree, the same is true with the sperm. The male seed (the sperm) is planted inside the woman who is the incubator (the soil), which then grows into a baby.
The science during Biblical days was that the male sperm was the whole egg, the entire baby, and the female was the incubator. The sperm was a whole life. You better not masturbate, have homosexual sex, or pull out as a contraceptive, because you'll be killing a human being! It is murder. Did they call the male sperm, "sperm" in the Bible? No! They called it the seed.
In 1843, physician Martin Berry, discovered that human conception occurs when the sperm enters the ovum and fertilizes an egg. So now, I ask all the "Bible experts" now—"What was the theory of how human life occurred before 1843?" Why was the sperm called the seed? Because once you know why the sperm was called the seed, you now begin to see the real picture.
Your theory that gay is wrong, due to the Bible, is incorrect. If you are such an expert at interpreting the Bible, please tell me when it was discovered that human conception occurs when sperm enters the ovum and fertilizes an egg? Well, you can't tell me this because you have never researched the science and the culture of the day during Biblical times.
Why do I need to remind people that the main message of all the prophets of the Bible (besides the message of salvation) is to love one another? The misinterpretation of the Bible will always reduce a person to hating others, not loving others. Saying that it's okay to hate others (due to their sexuality) because God allows me to hate you, is disgusting.
ON MY HONOR I WILL DO MY BEST TO DO MY DUTY TO GOD AND TO MY COUNTRY....I WILL OBEY THE SCOUT LAWS, HELP OTHER PEOPLE, AND KEEP MYSELF PHYSICALLY STRONG, MENTALLY AWAKE, AND MORALLY STRAIGHT!
"to god"...i believe god says in the bible that being gay is wrong!
Pesonally if you think that hole was made as and entrance then you need to reed up on your bodies functions!
Spalm, despite your ignorance based on poor grammar, how about this one...Our penises were made for extraction of waste and procreation, yet we still have oral sex. Our mouths were made for food, yet we still kiss. There is a whole HOST of examples i could give you of things we do to our bodies that are "unnatural" but we do them anyway, from tatoos to piercings, without any thought to morality.
You see what homophobic people don't understand is this, that being gay is wrong for a straight person, because a straight person is straight. Just as trying to be straight for a gay person is wrong because a gay person is gay and not straight.
If religions did not say that homosexuality was wrong, most people would simply see two gay people as two people in love.
mikecoruscant 8 months ago
If God is all powerful, all wise and just created the universe, then it would have been child's play for this God to have written a book which had timeless morals and ethics which would apply to any culture in any time period of human history which could never be misinterpreted.
Show me the money. The Bible is what one would expect from tribal Middle Eastern bigoted, intolerance ancient men, trying to explain the world around them. The Bible is not one would expect from an all knowing God.
mikecoruscant 8 months ago
When a religious text says that gay is wrong, then their believers say it's wrong. In the Old Testament, Leviticus 20:13 it says that gay is wrong. However, three verses before in Leviticus 20:9 it says that parents can kill their child who curses them.
Believer scoff when this is brought up and say that Lev. 20:9 doesn't apply in today's culture but insist that Lev. 20:13 does. This is called cherry picking the Bible.
mikecoruscant 8 months ago
Who is one of the major funders of the Boy Scouts of America? The Mormon Church. What allows them to have a hatred against gays and atheists? Their religious texts. This is the danger that religious organizations pose to society. Religions allow normally moral people do, act or think in immoral ways and then claim they are being moral.
mikecoruscant 8 months ago
Science is in the business of discovering the nature of how our world works. Science welcomes new information, criticism and revision. Religion dislikes criticism. Science says think. Religion says believe. Which is the wiser proposition?
mikecoruscant 9 months ago
“Religion is the one area of our discourse where it is considered noble to pretend to be certain about things no human being could possibly be certain about.” —Sam Harris
mikecoruscant 9 months ago
This is a powerful video. Your words, though, detract from your cause. By generalizing your attack to all religions and faiths, you offend potential allies in your cause, create more division, and reveal your own ignorance. The sons of Abraham religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) are among the youngest religions, and they comprise a minority religion worldwide. Only Christians use the Bible. Other religions and faiths are inclusive and tolerant but aren't as naive as believing in Santa.
magicbeet 9 months ago
@magicbeet All religions are simply mythology. What are religions? Failed science. What is the better message? That's it's okay to fool ourselves? That's it's okay to join an exclusive club and claim divine origin? Or that we all share the same humanity. We did not have join any "divine" club when we were born, we were born into humanity.
mikecoruscant 8 months ago
@GetALifePleaseThanks And my physical appearence has to do with what we are discussing, how?
JWolps 2 years ago
So are you saying you wouldn't want straight girls around your 12-17 year old son? Have you ever actually met a gay person, or have you just heard Pat Robertson spitting out hateful nonsense from his mouth?
JWolps 2 years ago
Nicely put.
BoyScout464 2 years ago
Get over it.
MrCoaltrain 2 years ago
Private organization. We can do what we want.
FreshBrewProductions 2 years ago
The BSA gets public tax dollar funding. They're a public organization.
JWolps 2 years ago
No, they dont. It all comes from donations. look it up.
FreshBrewProductions 2 years ago
Where did you get that information? You have been told wrong.
BoyScout464 2 years ago
They definatly got taxpayer funding in the past. Do they no longer?
JWolps 2 years ago
We never had, and probably never will.
BoyScout464 2 years ago
Looked it up, and the BSA did in the past recieve public funding. Don't believe me? Look it up for yourself.
JWolps 2 years ago
I did look it up and found nothing to support your theory. The BSA is funded through the FOS program, or Friends of Scouting, who donate money to their respective councils. If you have a source that I can view to support your claim let me know.
BoyScout464 2 years ago
@BoyScout464 I'm sorry, I should have said public funding, not tax payer funding. That part was incorrect. A quick Google search of "BSA public funding" will bring up many articles about how the Boy Scouts have stopped using public funding.
JWolps 2 years ago
the bsa can do what the law says they can and a moral of the scouts is patriotism. but they should do as god would want which is a larger moral of Christianity. gods disciples were not perfect and were tax collectors and sinners. but were surrounded by gods influence which can apply to scouting too. if a atheist is not allowed than he has no refuge of his religion but if he is surrounded by christens who care about them they have a chance which is another scout moral helping others
bvernon199 3 years ago
as for gays one of the scouts morals is respecting ones differences which cant be upholded with discrimination upon sexual orientation, gender, or religion BSA you can do what you can but you should do whats right and what follows your own values follow the laws you promised to uphold to your nation including freedom of religion and respect of races or deal with me and all who agree with the injustice you have created and believe or rewrite the scout oath and law to the morals you demonstrate.
bvernon199 3 years ago
Treemeadow 3 years ago
Why would anyone be against two people LOVING eachother? As if straight people don't do the same sexual acts that gay people do!
akittynamedbunny 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Straight people are incapable of doing certain acts of sex that homosexuals can do. The same goes for the homosexuals.
DiederickABecker 3 years ago
such as
spardaking 2 years ago
I really don't get why the Boy Scouts discriminate against gays!! I hate that!! They don't even do real outdoor trips!!
Daggerdude12345 4 years ago 2
Ironically the founder of the scouting movement, the 1st Baron Baden-Powell is now believed to have been a repressed homosexual!
R055HP 3 years ago 2
This policy goes against every scouting value as i have learned. I'm a scout for 14 years, but in the states a so called sisterorganisation would'nt allow me because i'm an atheist
BTW It wouldn't be so terrible if there was an alternative for those they discriminate but BSA is the only official scouting organisation and is very protective of that status, if there would be multiple scoutingorganisations (like in many countries)those excluded by BSA could join other scouting organisation
benfons 4 years ago 2
so what if we dont allow gay scoutmasters
if people dont like what we do, then they should just LEAVE US ALONE
evilclown9911 4 years ago
But you get governemnt support! Legally, dicrimination is not allowed in the U.S.A and so should not be allowed in any organisation that is payed for taxes. Why should non-Christians and homosexuals pay for an organisation that excludes them?
R055HP 3 years ago
then they shouldnt join
its that simple
evilclown9911 3 years ago
Then why should they pay for it?
R055HP 3 years ago
the Boy Scouts of America are technicaly a privrate group so they can justify there rules on a tecnicallity that they can set there own admission policys HOWEVER the BSA receive alot of goverment suport that should really be cut of if the BSA wish to remain private
9god69dog6 3 years ago
I agree with that. Either they must allow ALL to join or lose their funding, which may cripple them.
R055HP 3 years ago
The effort to turn from this sin is what God requires. Think of it this way, if I went up to you and slapped you in the face, and a week later said I was really sorry you'd probably believe me. Now If I continue to engage in this behavior every day, and try to justify it to myself I'm probably not sorry ! This is the problem with homosexuality.
steveandsmallville 4 years ago
And here I thought you were talking about your own intolerance.
kohlrabis 3 years ago
I was referring to steveandsmallville's latest comment btw...
kohlrabis 3 years ago
Clemburke, interesting point, however, I do believe you are mistaken. Here's why, when a teenager for example is disobedient, if they are God fearing they will ask for forgiveness. Additionally, if they are truely repentent they will try not to commit the offence again. In the case of homosexuality, homosexuals are attempting, in my opinion, to justify this sin, and more importantly, not making a concerted effort to turn from it.
steveandsmallville 4 years ago
How sad is that this poor organization is being targeted by some homosexual organization. The problem is that gays and lesbos can't get it through there heads that some people believe that this behavior is WRONG !!! So why should parents who have a conscience, and don't want their kids exposed to that lifestyle be punished for it? Gays should form the gayscouts or something if they're that upset over this. Reality is, according to the bible, homosexuals are going to hell for this sin.
steveandsmallville 4 years ago
steven I do not think you have thought this one out, if homosexuals are going to hell then some one that is slightly chubby is going to hell for Glutony ,or a teenager who is disobediant is going to hell , if the bible were to have its way we all would be in flames,,and not just flaming.
Clemburke1111 4 years ago 2
Will u F***ing Christians stop saying 'oh the bible this' and 'the bible that' thebible is a stupid book writen my sexist,racist,scientificly ignorant men and has been miss translated over and over im gona say this clearly...
GET SOME EVI - DENSE
9god69dog6 3 years ago 2
if any group in a flemish association would have such a membership policy, the court probably wouldn't even have to decide, they would face serious consequenses within their respective association
benfons 4 years ago
i was reading through some old scouting books, and this is a quote from a book for 3rd graders. "americas forfounders found it importand to worship god anyway we want to" this is in addition to sugesting that god exists, it is also saying that there is 1 god, probably the 1 from the bible, and saying without doubt that that is the one god. thats 1 reason i quit scouts
ericm6 4 years ago
Scouts promote freedom of religion. So, if there's a badge for ignorance and bigotry toward gays, I am sure any old 'god' out there would love for you to get one. However, through Jesus Christ some of us are caught up into the One True God's life, where beyond hate, Love abides!
denislane1 4 years ago
By the way, "morally straight" has nothing to do with heterosexual versus gay. Morally straight has nothing to do with sexuality. "Morally straight" means to be completely honest and straight forward. Look it up and don't be so ignorant.
markthevoiceofreaso 4 years ago
And... I won't admit to anyone that I'm a sexual bigot at its finest, so I'll just say that God says it's wrong so that I can hate others, and in fact, to hate others in the name of God. I also will not admit that I'm intolerant of people with a sexuality that's different than mine and refuse to admit that there could ever be any sexual diversity amongst the more than 6 billion people on planet earth.
markthevoiceofreaso 4 years ago
When you say that gay is wrong per the Bible, what you are really stating is that you hate gays (or say that being gay is wrong) because a gay person does not have your own sexuality. So, your real conclusion is this, anyone who has a different sexuality than mine, is wrong sexually, because you don't have my own sexuality.
markthevoiceofreaso 4 years ago
We are talking about the Middle East a couple of thousand years ago, image how much more of a male-centric society it was back in Biblical times. Fast forward to the Middle East of today and it's still heavily male-centric. You don't even have to look at the Middle East, most cultures are still very much male-centric, the struggle for equality will be fought for hundreds if not thousands of years. In Biblical days—of course—they thought that the male sperm was the entire baby.
markthevoiceofreaso 4 years ago
Now you know why the Bible says homosexual sex, masturbation and pulling out, were wrong. The science of the Biblical days was incorrect. The misinterpretation of the Bible will always allow people to promote their own bigotry and prejudice and allow themselves to justify their own hateful and intolerant views of others.
markthevoiceofreaso 4 years ago
The Bible was NOT misenterpreted. The Bible is merely a horrible and prejudiced book anyway!
R055HP 3 years ago 4
so was lord of the rings
evilclown9911 3 years ago
They are both utter fiction.
R055HP 3 years ago 2
to religous people like me, the bible isnt fiction
evilclown9911 3 years ago
Yes, but in a science-based world-view, which is aworld-view based on evidence and therefore reality, it is completely false.
R055HP 3 years ago
well, no matter what you say will persuade me
evilclown9911 3 years ago
To be permanantely certain of somethnig is a weakness.
R055HP 3 years ago 2
then that must mean you are weak too
evilclown9911 3 years ago
I am open-minded to any idea I see as sufficiently justified for belief. I believe in evidence, or that which is REAL.
R055HP 3 years ago
an atheist/agnostic/not brain dead person is open to new ideas and will discard old ones if the new idea is teasted and proved beond reasonable doubt EVERYONE of the above mentioned groups would discard evalution if a better stronger theory was brought into light but so far none have been produced (btw ID is pathetic)
9god69dog6 3 years ago
an atheist/agnostic/not brain dead person is open to new ideas and will discard old ones if the new idea is teasted and proved beond reasonable doubt EVERYONE of the above mentioned groups would discard evalution if a better stronger theory was brought into light but so far none have been produced (btw ID is pathetic)
9god69dog6 3 years ago
I don't think the Jesus we believe in would dvocate your intolerance.
You know- he was FRIENDS with homosexuals and prostitutes? He loved them and interacted with them. If Jesus can love unconditionally, why can't we?
Treemeadow 3 years ago
i agree he hung around with him because he realized that they had a influence, but he had a stronger one that could shape their lives the BSA would give these people the chance jesus would if it wasn't for their rules. there rules contradicts with are countrys laws that they agreed to as well as the scouting morals of which they created. if a homosexual knew the rules his speech would most likely not be free just because of the consequences of who he is. a contradiction to freedom of speech.
bvernon199 3 years ago
so even if i stand next to you reach into the sky and pulled the God of any monotheistic religion from the sky and ask him/her/it whether he/she/it created the universe and they told us that it was already there when they came along you would still belive in a book that has been translated more than any other and tells of splitting the sea,unburning fire, a cosmic jewish zombie (jesus) and a rib woman???
9god69dog6 3 years ago
in the 3 book shops near where i live i looked for the bible out of curiosity and they are all in the fiction section... as they should be (one was right next to 'just so stories) it made me smile =]
9god69dog6 3 years ago
dont bring lord of rings down the level of the bible the LOTR is good
9god69dog6 3 years ago
LOTR is one of my fav stories, but you obviously have never heard of the political symbolism in the book. do some research on it. its one of the reasons liberals wanted it on the banned book list (along WITH the bible).
you were prob in book stores with liberal minded owners. all book stores where i live have the bible under religion; where it belongs.
dont pull that shit about all christains not believeing in evolution. there are a lot us that think ID is a bunch of crap
evilclown9911 3 years ago
If you think Intelligent Design is crap, than what the [bleep] are you doing with religion? Moral guidance? Social gatherings? Meaning of life?
Don't you think you could do with more real alternatives that DON'T hurt other people's feelings - let alone rights (to marry).
DiederickABecker 3 years ago
Why call it the seed? Hello, world, wake up! Because they thought it was the entire baby. The science of the day was, just as you plant an apple seed in the ground and it grows in the soil to become a tree, the same is true with the sperm. The male seed (the sperm) is planted inside the woman who is the incubator (the soil), which then grows into a baby.
markthevoiceofreaso 4 years ago
The science during Biblical days was that the male sperm was the whole egg, the entire baby, and the female was the incubator. The sperm was a whole life. You better not masturbate, have homosexual sex, or pull out as a contraceptive, because you'll be killing a human being! It is murder. Did they call the male sperm, "sperm" in the Bible? No! They called it the seed.
markthevoiceofreaso 4 years ago
In 1843, physician Martin Berry, discovered that human conception occurs when the sperm enters the ovum and fertilizes an egg. So now, I ask all the "Bible experts" now—"What was the theory of how human life occurred before 1843?" Why was the sperm called the seed? Because once you know why the sperm was called the seed, you now begin to see the real picture.
markthevoiceofreaso 4 years ago
Your theory that gay is wrong, due to the Bible, is incorrect. If you are such an expert at interpreting the Bible, please tell me when it was discovered that human conception occurs when sperm enters the ovum and fertilizes an egg? Well, you can't tell me this because you have never researched the science and the culture of the day during Biblical times.
markthevoiceofreaso 4 years ago
Why do I need to remind people that the main message of all the prophets of the Bible (besides the message of salvation) is to love one another? The misinterpretation of the Bible will always reduce a person to hating others, not loving others. Saying that it's okay to hate others (due to their sexuality) because God allows me to hate you, is disgusting.
markthevoiceofreaso 4 years ago
ON MY HONOR I WILL DO MY BEST TO DO MY DUTY TO GOD AND TO MY COUNTRY....I WILL OBEY THE SCOUT LAWS, HELP OTHER PEOPLE, AND KEEP MYSELF PHYSICALLY STRONG, MENTALLY AWAKE, AND MORALLY STRAIGHT!
"to god"...i believe god says in the bible that being gay is wrong!
Pesonally if you think that hole was made as and entrance then you need to reed up on your bodies functions!
spalm96 4 years ago
Spalm, despite your ignorance based on poor grammar, how about this one...Our penises were made for extraction of waste and procreation, yet we still have oral sex. Our mouths were made for food, yet we still kiss. There is a whole HOST of examples i could give you of things we do to our bodies that are "unnatural" but we do them anyway, from tatoos to piercings, without any thought to morality.
paulschorsch 4 years ago 2
Keep that in mind when you type something without thinking like, "Our butts are not entrances."
paulschorsch 4 years ago 3