Thanks for posting these, Airboyd! It's the closest thing to a time machine that I can find... Totally cool.
I never realized how menacing the Gloster Meteor looks until I watched it roar down the runway and perform crazy-ass attacks on bomber formations! Those pilots have my total respect. Would have been crazy if they would have had to do this for real, like in WWIII. Thankfully...
@agwhitaker , You know that in 1947 Soviet union managed to replicate the B29 into what will have become Tu-4, by which-in case of Global war, they would have trioed to bomb United Kingdom,so RAFdecided to use the "original" B29 as simulated target for her fighter pilots
@agwhitaker Not at all. The USSR copied the B-29 and intended to use it against Europe and North America (based off ice runways on the north pile ice cap.). This is what today would be called a Red Flag exercise.
@agwhitaker During WW2 B4 Russia declared war on Japan 3 B-29'S after attacking Japan ran out of fuel and landed in Russia.The Russians used the excsue they had to interened. They were returned after Stalin declared war on Japan. Russia did not have a four engine bomber so Russians took them apart + cloned them in essence made copies for their airforce. Russian version of the U.S. B-29 Russian designation was known as the TU–4 U can see it on youtube "Tupolev Tu-4 NATO Code: Bull"
A curious film. Obviously the British weren't concerned with actually defending against the B-29....so the B-29 must be a proxy for long-range Russian bombers. But wouldn't this information be useful to the Russians, since, in 1948, the B-29 was the first-line U.S. bomber? And the security classification for this film is merely "Confidential".
@MaryJanesCheesecakes...Thanks for the info! I looked up the Tu-4 in Wikipedia and there's a photo of one----an exact copy of the B-29...the article says both the British and U.S. air forces trained against the B-29 in 1948 in anticipartion, as you say, of the Soviet's introduction of the Tu-4...so, the film is not so curious after all!!
Given that the Soviets had access to years of intelligence material from the end of WWII and onwards, it was probably not deemed necessary to protect the information more than necessary.
Remember, if you classify something too high, it cannot be used for training purposes.
I feel like trying out these tactics in IL-2 Strumvoik.
Hotshotter3000 4 months ago
Thanks for posting these, Airboyd! It's the closest thing to a time machine that I can find... Totally cool.
I never realized how menacing the Gloster Meteor looks until I watched it roar down the runway and perform crazy-ass attacks on bomber formations! Those pilots have my total respect. Would have been crazy if they would have had to do this for real, like in WWIII. Thankfully...
dgareea31swtg 6 months ago
So... the British were worried about the Americans declaring war and attacking inthe late 40's ?
agwhitaker 7 months ago
@agwhitaker , You know that in 1947 Soviet union managed to replicate the B29 into what will have become Tu-4, by which-in case of Global war, they would have trioed to bomb United Kingdom,so RAFdecided to use the "original" B29 as simulated target for her fighter pilots
anisocoro 5 months ago
@anisocoro thing is the Tu-4 was always underpowered compared to the B-29 and heavier...didn't quiet work as they wished.
GrigoriZhukov 4 months ago
@agwhitaker Not at all. The USSR copied the B-29 and intended to use it against Europe and North America (based off ice runways on the north pile ice cap.). This is what today would be called a Red Flag exercise.
TalksWithDirt 3 months ago
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muhammaddog 7 months ago
@muhammaddog Military training film...unfortunately they were not designed to fill an entertainment purpose, just information, and lots of it.
mikendustingunnrz 7 months ago
I need a smoke after watching this.
777cascade 8 months ago
Imagine what pair of F-15s would do to these airplanes even if the British escorted them :-S
AgentPepsi1 9 months ago
they were getting ready to fight against russian bombers. lol.
Rico8458 9 months ago
Amusing video +D
CMDRFandragon 10 months ago
Does this mean the Brits expected an American nuclear attack ?
agwhitaker 10 months ago
@agwhitaker During WW2 B4 Russia declared war on Japan 3 B-29'S after attacking Japan ran out of fuel and landed in Russia.The Russians used the excsue they had to interened. They were returned after Stalin declared war on Japan. Russia did not have a four engine bomber so Russians took them apart + cloned them in essence made copies for their airforce. Russian version of the U.S. B-29 Russian designation was known as the TU–4 U can see it on youtube "Tupolev Tu-4 NATO Code: Bull"
LottoWinner999 10 months ago
If they Russians had sent mass bomber formations against London, the Brits would have been ready! I'm glad it never happened.
impCaesarAvg 1 year ago
however, i believe too that the russions used this film to train their mig pilots for Korea...
kenns9 1 year ago
A curious film. Obviously the British weren't concerned with actually defending against the B-29....so the B-29 must be a proxy for long-range Russian bombers. But wouldn't this information be useful to the Russians, since, in 1948, the B-29 was the first-line U.S. bomber? And the security classification for this film is merely "Confidential".
donwert 1 year ago
@donwert Actually, they were...in a way. In
1944, 3 B-29's were forced to land in Russia.
Over the next 5 years, the Russians reverse
engineered the B-29, and called it the TU-4,
which became operational in 1949, with 300
aircraft. This film was obviously made in
anticipation, and was most likely shown only
to allied pilots.
MaryJanesCheesecakes 1 year ago
@MaryJanesCheesecakes...Thanks for the info! I looked up the Tu-4 in Wikipedia and there's a photo of one----an exact copy of the B-29...the article says both the British and U.S. air forces trained against the B-29 in 1948 in anticipartion, as you say, of the Soviet's introduction of the Tu-4...so, the film is not so curious after all!!
donwert 1 year ago
@donwert Correct that lest. 4 B-29's.
MaryJanesCheesecakes 1 year ago
@donwert
because i believe the allies WANTED the russions to know that WE KNOW, they had copied the 29!
kenns9 1 year ago
@donwert
Given that the Soviets had access to years of intelligence material from the end of WWII and onwards, it was probably not deemed necessary to protect the information more than necessary.
Remember, if you classify something too high, it cannot be used for training purposes.
lindahl01 7 months ago
@lindahl01 "Necessary ..... more than necessarey", d'oh! Should be "...more than that."
lindahl01 7 months ago
Interesting stuff , thanks for the post !
express49 1 year ago
This is a fake....not every one is smoking....lol...good stuff,thanks for the post...
twobazzar 1 year ago
@twobazzar This is real, al qaeda use it for training againts the royal air force today.
BoogerAcid 1 year ago