Oh look, another theist with an incendiary video that blocks ratings! Typical...and pretty predictable. Interesting to note that atheists are under-represented in the prison population...I guess they're just better at evading capture. Videos like this add nothing to the conversation, they're the equivalent of yelling "you're fat!" and expecting to be taken seriously.
Did you know that humans do all that? One guy on video said he survived by drinking his urine. Another even burnt himself to death which started the Arab Spring. Duh!
fucking athieists shut the fuck up. the fact is people are blinded by most religious rules. but nobody wants to hear your fucking side to anything. stop trying to convert anybody its not gonna happen. religion isnt a bad thing you guys do your thing we do ours. well have something better in life to believe in while u guys just sit there and hate on everyone else lol
@gunshow911 i always love it when someone tells us to shut up. if you think that religion isnt ruining the lives of hundreds people right now, you need to think again. i wont shut up until rape victims can get abortions instead of giving birth to a child that they dont want to, or cant take care of. i wont shut up until my mother doesnt teach innocent teenagers things that are obviously bullshit. i wont shut up until the threat to my freedom, in addition to tha freedom of millions of others,
ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
THE SCIENTIFIC CASE AGAINST ATHEISM: Please read this Internet article of mine published in Russia's English Pravda. It will be a real eye-opener for all who think belief in a Creator is merely subjective blind faith. Also read my article, LIFE ON MARS NO SURPRISE (In the Earth's past there was powerful volcanic activity which spewed life-containing dirt and rocks (meteors) into outer space. Mars may literally have millions tons of Earth soil)
SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy (even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator
NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living and reproducing if their vital structures, organs, reproductive systems hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species
DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news concerning fossils, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit the Institute for Creation Research site.
WHAT IS SCIENCE? Science simply is knowledge based on observation. No one observed the universe coming by chance or by design, by creation or by macro-evolution. These are positions of faith. The issue is which faith the scientific evidence best supports. Natural laws can explain how an airplane or living cell works, but it's irrational to believe that undirected natural laws can bring about an airplane or a living cell. Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
NATURAL SELECTION DOESN'T PRODUCE ANYTHING. It can only "select" from what is produced that has survival value. If a variation occurs that helps a species survive, that survival is called being "selected." That's all its is. There's no conscious selection by nature. It's a passive process. Natural selection is a figure of speech. The term itself is a tautology. Natural selection only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select," not produce or arrange. If a variation survives, that's called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
GENETIC INFORMATION CANNOT HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! Also, "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read my popular Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
DO EYES CARRY SCARS OF EVOLUTION? Read this fantastic Internet article by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas. Thomas refutes every argument of a "flawed" design for the eye, and explains how and why the so-called flaw is actually the best thing for the eye. Read the article! It's amazing what facts evolutionists will ignore. Numerous times evolutionists have been proven wrong about their interpretation of a structure as being flawed or useless
Show me the studies and who they were conducted by. To claim that people who are of faith are better off physiologically is a typical claim of someone who has a bias towards religion. Also to say that the bible hasn't any contradictions is like saying that evolution is not a fact. Again typical religious statement that is indicative of how much you know about the bible. You've never read it, have you? I have so i can dissect pathetic religious arguments like the one you put up
Death to the infidels and world domination is a good morality? Atheism and evolution have nothing to do with morality, they are just facts that we must accept. Philosophy is my moral.
And this proves that some amorphous intelligence that can "speak" things into existence, yet never leaves any evidence of its own existence is real because...?
@MrHobiecat in fact humans have the same issues. For example, when you force an adult male to take a vow to never have sex, thousands of them ended up buggering little boys.
If u think morality comes from the bible then i urge u to read it. If u have and still maintain that it is moral then u're too stupid to understand what is written. In fact,u're almost guaranteed to be an imbecile. There has been 43 studies carried out since 1927 about the relationship between religious belief and ones intelligence and educational level. All but 4 show an inverse connection! That means the higher ones IQ or educational level the less one is likely to be religious
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@baniura@baniura I think you are innocent of recent scientific studies regarding the difference between believers and non-believers. Now is the time for you to know and search the facts that believers have far more better brain function and physical health than those people who do not recognize God. Scientifically speaking! =0)
Please cite your sources, I tried searching and failed to find a single study confirming a correlation between belief and intelligence (unless of course it was an inverse correlation).
first off, for one with "more better brain function" you have awful grammar. which is statistically true for most believers. believers tend to have less of an emphasis on educatioin and rarely continue said education past highschool. Non-believers also statistically know more facts about the Bible and are more likely to have actually read more than a few chunks here and there.
second, could you please provide where you got your 'facts'?
@rafraf28 Mhm , whatever keeps you sane and helps you sleep at night baniura :)
religious people always need to blanket themselves in non-factual statements because if they really, truly accepted the fact that their religion is a sham and is based on killing thousands of people because one god is better than the other, then what would you cling to? people need an understanding to cling to, the problem is we institutionalize everything and make it evil. regardless of what it is.
"Atheist Learned Basic Morality From Their Common Ancestors." So you think evolution teaches that we evolved from modern primates? I should also point out that the Catholic Church now also accepts evolution. I would however question the morality of whoever gave cigarettes to these animals. So I am guessing by including that shot you are saying that evolution is wrong because a modern human gave cigarettes to orangutan. Thanks Mr. Irrelevant your a genius.
Oh, I guess I missed the part where Dawkins said, "All non-human primates, from monkeys to orangutans to chimpanzees act EXACTLY like adult humans living in post-modern societies."
That must be it, right? Because without that, your video is in no way relevant to Dawkin's hypothesis.
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You will never really understand a letter which is not meant for you. I can't see any contradictions in the Bible but we can see prophecies of Christ which are truly happening. =0)
@rafraf28 Ok: Answer me this: How many people/angels where there at Jesus' tomb when he got resurrected. There's 3 different answers, all equally "right". As for prophecies: can you tell us a few non-obvious ones?
@jacobpaprotskiy Are you saying that smoking is good moral for humans? Will you encourage children to smoke, is there any sense in smoking that humans and monkeys can get? =0)
@rafraf28 no actually I'm saying that smoking is not something you can morally say is good or bad; Yes you can define it bad according to health but not morals, which brings me to my next point none of what all those apes did can't be defined morally sure it may seem bad to someone with a sense of higene. OK lets say you seen a child drinking its pee, would you condemn it to hell. would you even think of condemning it. probability not. because you can't define it morally. Understand?
@jacobpaprotskiy Children are innocent and you are not, you know more better what is good and what is moral if you will not act like a kid. And I know even small kid will never drink his own pee. You are just trying to escape in reasoning out atheist illogical belief. You are just mixing things up innocent children will never go for damnation but instead those people who are fully aware of doing injustice, greedy and immoral.
@rafraf28 you apparently did not get my point i meant that if a child 'hypothetically was to drink his pee but as I understand you do not understand the concept of a hypothetical situation. so let me make it simple: lets say you were to see me drinking my own pee. would you consider my act morally wrong, would you go so far as to condemn me to hell. Yes you would consider my act disgusting, but you wouldn't be able to call me immortal, because my act cant be judged on a mortal scale.(cont.)
@rafraf28 (cont.) My act would be judged on a hygienic scale as wrong but not a moral one. My point is, is that you can't judge the acts of those apes on a moral scale as you attempted to do. You can, as my act, consider it wrong on a hygienic scale, which in fact are two different scales. So with the title of your video 'moral of atheists' you failed to show your point that apes are immoral... If you were to show them slaughtering each other over some stupid believes, but you did not so...
@jacobpaprotskiy what you've seen with your ancestors in this video are they doing right or wrong? Basing on scientific studies ancestors traits can be passed on to descendants. And you accept that monkeys are your ancestors so there is no doubt that apes traits are your traits too. Understand?
@rafraf28 chimps aren't my ancestors they are my cousins we came from a common ancestor about 6m years ago. Well the thing is that you cant judge those acts morally for they are amoral in our minds, but if you had to ask I do find that sick.individual behavioral acts can rise and die in a population and they are not passed on genetically but passed through social bondage.(cont.)
@rafraf28 (cont.) I wanted to share an example of behavioral acts not passing down: In the middle ages people used to eat with there hands, not take baths all of there lives shit anywhere they could going around brutally killing each other and that was the norm. yet we do not see people doing that today(normally). but according to you we should because our ancestors were doing that. understand?
@jacobpaprotskiy You are speaking of your untidy ancestors but not mine. 1440 B.C before atheist have existed my ancestors wrote and taught proper hygiene just like in Leviticus 14:8 "The one to be cleansed shall then wash his clothes and shave off all his hair and bathe in water and be clean..." =0)
@rafraf28 funny how the torah was supposedly reviled to Moses in 1312 BCE and Judaism only shows up in 600 BCE so even then exactly what Leviticus are you talking about? anyway Im talking about the middle ages (5-15 C.E) you know were the church gains power, and Europe plummets into the dark ages. yeah people were barbarians then, and did all the stuff i pointed out earlier. yet we dont do that today why? because individual behavior is not passed down. i'd love to discuss the origin of the torah
@jacobpaprotskiy How did you learn about dark ages then? Have you actually seen people back then or because you have read it in articles in have faith that it really happened?
@rafraf28 p.s 1312 BCE is the date jews themselves give the torah historians say it is a gathering and editing of prior according to Wikipedia it was composed and revised from 4 independent sources from 900 BCE to 500 BCE but i heard in other places that there were as much as 6, as Judaism slow evolved from polytheism to monotheism its pretty interesting to know for example that Abraham, Isaac and jacob were polytheists and worshiped a different god than moses: el-shadi while moses: Ya.
@jacobpaprotskiy So you are also believing on everything you read? Or is that how you prove that what can we read in Leviticus 14:8 is true "The one to be cleansed shall then wash his clothes and shave off all his hair and bathe in water and be clean..." =0)
@rafraf28 first of all that is not a truth statement. even if it says that what's your point? anyway I do not believe everything i read. i believe stuff from credible unbiased sources. so do you have anything to say on my statement about abraham and moses believing in completely different gods exodus itself is a good example of this: "is there no one like you among gods, Yahweh " is a good example i do not remember exactly what verse of what chapter but its there. perfect example of polytheism.
@jacobpaprotskiy If you truly believe and can stand to your statements. What are you trying to prove regarding Abraham and Moses? Do you accept the ancient Biblical historical facts?
@rafraf28 Im saying Judaism evolved from Babylonian and candianian polytheistic religions and the torah is evidence for that. most of the bible is historically bullshit but there may be truth and some characters are said to have existed i.e Abraham, but he did not believe in the one lord but, he believed in his god el-shadi also called el-elimum while exodus is completely fictional but also shows Jewish polytheistic origins.
@jacobpaprotskiy Atheist are good in wild imagination and speculations. I can't see any truth from your statements, I know that your not even sure of your illusive and imaginary belief which you've read in some scrap article that seemingly basing your deceit.
@rafraf28 i didn't believe it at first either but then i did some research and found a consensus among my results i recommend you stick your head out of the dirt and do some research too, no offense, you will also see the Jesus character story is also plagiarized, on my opinion one source: the Egyptian god Horus. who waas worship as far back as 1280 BCE, very interesting the consensus you see in bolth of their stories.
@jacobpaprotskiy You are talking out of your innocence, no intention of delivering the truth but obviously a bias deceit trying to convince me with your foolishness. Tacitus, a Roman historian is a non-biblical proof of Jesus Christ existence. Funny how atheist are so devoted with their faith which based on assumptions and speculations. =0)
@rafraf28 im saying if Jesus ever existed then he certainly wasn't the person who the bible depicted did you ever notice the tons and tons of contradictions in the new testament?
@rafraf28 Yeah really!!! And thousands more crucified before his time. You see crucifiction by Romans has been a practice by roman emperors way longer than the time of Jesus. So you see, there is no messiah. Only poor people who were sacrificed to Roman emperor's whim. Also, the term "chrest" or "chrestians" was used by Nero to describe the arsonists of the Great Fire of Rome. It also refer to members of an axis of power between Rome and Alexandria. Holy or Political?
@rafraf28 lol! For a genius, you sure know a lot about jack shit. You can't ~know~ that no kid in the world would try to drink their own urine. Are you serious? Let's not forget that your own religious book says that we, as human beings, are "Born dead in sin", which means that even ~children~ are not exempt from the wrath of God unless indoctrinated into the faith. Paul clearly stated that we were all spiritually dead in our sin in Ephesians 2:1-3
The question did we inherent our morals from our ancestors is an incorrect. We inherit the ability to learn from our ancestors. 6 million years ago our ancestor's brain and body was the same as the ancestor's of chimpanzees. Since that time our body has changed slightly and or brain has grown a lot. Enough to take over the world and dominate all other life forms. Thinking we are super special might just be a religious delusion of grandeur. Human behavior supports just that don’t you think?
@samten54 Maybe you just cannot accept what kind of moral your ancestors have. But we as Christians learned true morality basing from our ancestors who have written literally the Bible earlier before atheist have existed and evolved to be mindless. =0)
@rafraf28 What about Buddhists? They don’t follow the bible, they have high moral standards, there hasn’t been a war to support Buddhism and they are happy and kind people. No bible in sight and no creator god believed.
@samten54 Why aren't you Buddhist then? I also know some people who strictly follow Bible, and yet they have high moral standards, they even love their enemies and they are happy and kind people. Buddhism is just similar from atheism where "foundation" are from men with flaws and erroneous beliefs.
@samten54 Well it is nice to see that atheist like you truly believes in things written in the Bible. Sometimes it is ridiculous to see that somebody who does not believe in God will use God’s word in casting doubts upon the integrity of the very same person he does not believe to exist. =0)
You choose to misinterpret a comment that shows the God of the bible was invented to appeal to a very base audience at a time long before human rights were ever considered. The fact that the bible is so lacking in sensitivity to the welfare of people shows it is man made and very poorly at that.
Did you know that atheists make up about 15% of the US population but less than 0.5% of the US prison population? These government statistics are taken as criminals enter prison so conversions are not contaminating the results. Why do you think that is? If what you say is true atheists should fill the prisons. It seems god belief either causes crime or fails to stop it. One or the other or both.
So if I pick and choose clips about paedophile priests, Christians fightings wars, parent killing his/hers child because they heard voices, parents refusing to take their child to the hospital and relying on praying instead, mega-church "preachers" with their private jets, Christians campaigning against condom use thus spreading AIDS, Christians campaigning against stem-cell research, and so on, would you agree that Christianity is pretty shitty cult.
@Saukko31 Don't you know that there were mentioned in the Bible of professing they are of God but committing ungodly acts? Don't blame and generalized the things that you don't know we all know that greedy people are every where and some of them are using the name of Christianity.
The fact is atheist are baseless with regards of morality but looking on their ancestors no doubt what kind of behavior and moral their children can get from them. =0(
@rafraf28 "The fact is atheist are baseless with regards of morality but looking on their ancestors no doubt what kind of behavior and moral their children can get from them."
I'm pretty sure the bible also says something about true Christians not judging other people. However, disregarding the bible, anyone can pick up a book and declare its contents to be the basis for morality. Which is what the followers of the Abrahamic religions have done.
@rafraf28 You might of course object and say that it's really "God" who is the base, but you'd be wrong. All you know about the god and his alleged laws comes from you interpreting a book written by unknown authors. The mere fact that it's your interpretation, and that there are millions of people who will tell you that your interpretation is wrong - regardless of what you believe - should tell you that the approach with revealed scripture is an utter failure that does not ground morality.
@rafraf28 What you are saying is we should ignore the fact that God killed, encouraged slavery and condoned daughters getting pregnant to their father and just pick the good bits. We can do that with any book. The funny thing is you try to pretend there is some moral message here. The bible is a disaster and that’s probably why early Christians were forbidden to read it.
@samten54 Is there anyone can escape death? Everything tangible destined to certain time of it's end and Who ever is the author of life has the right to take the given life. Who forbids to read the Bible are you sure they are truly Christians? Do you really know what Christian means?
@rafraf28The early leaders of Christianity forbade the peasants the right to read the bible. 500 years ago and before that. What makes a christian is exactly the same thing that makes a Hindu, a Muslim or any religious person. Belief in something they are told is true by those they love and depend on. That’s how religions continue from one generation to the next. They all argue their beliefs are the right ones. You and all religious people are just following a known pattern.
@samten54 Your assumption of early Christian is pertaining to Roman catholicism. Roman catholic are not truly christian they are the most contradicting the Bible. =0)
@rafraf28 Early Christians WERE the Roman Catholics. That’s YOUR lineage. Without them you wouldn’t have ever heard about your Jesus. You should show some respect even if you don’t agree with their view. I of course don’t agree with either view.
Is there nothing religious that cannot be logically or evidentially refuted? The answer is no. Then why do people continue to believe in it? The best answer I can find is: “Religion is a trauma inflicted upon the young through the abuse of parental power.” - Stefan Molyneux. As such, we must treat the religious as trauma victims and be sympathetic that they do not think or act from logic or reasoning but from psychological abuse that has convinced them that the supernatural is true.
Oh look, another theist with an incendiary video that blocks ratings! Typical...and pretty predictable. Interesting to note that atheists are under-represented in the prison population...I guess they're just better at evading capture. Videos like this add nothing to the conversation, they're the equivalent of yelling "you're fat!" and expecting to be taken seriously.
raffiican 2 months ago
Did you know that humans do all that? One guy on video said he survived by drinking his urine. Another even burnt himself to death which started the Arab Spring. Duh!
Skilbeard 4 months ago
fucking athieists shut the fuck up. the fact is people are blinded by most religious rules. but nobody wants to hear your fucking side to anything. stop trying to convert anybody its not gonna happen. religion isnt a bad thing you guys do your thing we do ours. well have something better in life to believe in while u guys just sit there and hate on everyone else lol
gunshow911 4 months ago
@gunshow911 i always love it when someone tells us to shut up. if you think that religion isnt ruining the lives of hundreds people right now, you need to think again. i wont shut up until rape victims can get abortions instead of giving birth to a child that they dont want to, or cant take care of. i wont shut up until my mother doesnt teach innocent teenagers things that are obviously bullshit. i wont shut up until the threat to my freedom, in addition to tha freedom of millions of others,
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@gunshow911 (continued) has died along with slavery, and the nazi party.
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@gunshow911 I only hate on religious bigots. =D
typoking 1 month ago
This may be the most ignorant video on the internet.
Richard Dawkins did have a few good quotes, but they were never addressed at all.
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ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
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THE SCIENTIFIC CASE AGAINST ATHEISM: Please read this Internet article of mine published in Russia's English Pravda. It will be a real eye-opener for all who think belief in a Creator is merely subjective blind faith. Also read my article, LIFE ON MARS NO SURPRISE (In the Earth's past there was powerful volcanic activity which spewed life-containing dirt and rocks (meteors) into outer space. Mars may literally have millions tons of Earth soil)
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SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy (even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
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EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator
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NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living and reproducing if their vital structures, organs, reproductive systems hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species
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DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news concerning fossils, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit the Institute for Creation Research site.
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WHAT IS SCIENCE? Science simply is knowledge based on observation. No one observed the universe coming by chance or by design, by creation or by macro-evolution. These are positions of faith. The issue is which faith the scientific evidence best supports. Natural laws can explain how an airplane or living cell works, but it's irrational to believe that undirected natural laws can bring about an airplane or a living cell. Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
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NATURAL SELECTION DOESN'T PRODUCE ANYTHING. It can only "select" from what is produced that has survival value. If a variation occurs that helps a species survive, that survival is called being "selected." That's all its is. There's no conscious selection by nature. It's a passive process. Natural selection is a figure of speech. The term itself is a tautology. Natural selection only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
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NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select," not produce or arrange. If a variation survives, that's called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
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IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
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APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
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GENETIC INFORMATION CANNOT HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! Also, "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read my popular Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
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ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 5 months ago
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DO EYES CARRY SCARS OF EVOLUTION? Read this fantastic Internet article by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas. Thomas refutes every argument of a "flawed" design for the eye, and explains how and why the so-called flaw is actually the best thing for the eye. Read the article! It's amazing what facts evolutionists will ignore. Numerous times evolutionists have been proven wrong about their interpretation of a structure as being flawed or useless
Mogley52 5 months ago
Ha, yeah, humans would never smoke cigarettes!
MsNimpnimp 6 months ago 2
Show me the studies and who they were conducted by. To claim that people who are of faith are better off physiologically is a typical claim of someone who has a bias towards religion. Also to say that the bible hasn't any contradictions is like saying that evolution is not a fact. Again typical religious statement that is indicative of how much you know about the bible. You've never read it, have you? I have so i can dissect pathetic religious arguments like the one you put up
baniura 6 months ago
That was good (funny too) What I wanna know is who's the jerk giving them smokes. Jane Goodall is rolling over in her grave.
PlntPeace 6 months ago
Death to the infidels and world domination is a good morality? Atheism and evolution have nothing to do with morality, they are just facts that we must accept. Philosophy is my moral.
Nepjoe 6 months ago
I think the up loader got the tittle wrong, this is how religious people act like. :D
PimpingRice 8 months ago
wow... this is... terrible. too many problems with the reasoning. Almost insulting. I would suspect a poe if this were not typical.
1robopm 8 months ago
Humans and apes HAVE common ancestors not 'ARE' common ancestors, change the description you fool.
ConnorXV 8 months ago
And this proves that some amorphous intelligence that can "speak" things into existence, yet never leaves any evidence of its own existence is real because...?
YY4Me133 8 months ago
If you think these monkeys beeing nasty is mocking evolution see 2 girls 1 cup. We arent so different just more fucked up :)
Clutchwire 9 months ago 2
well done on fuelling the hatred i'm sure your all loving god'd be proud of you
foxofthenight 9 months ago
wild animals kept in captivity develope very strange behaviour in response to the induced stress.
What does this have to do with evolution? !?
MrHobiecat 9 months ago 3
@MrHobiecat in fact humans have the same issues. For example, when you force an adult male to take a vow to never have sex, thousands of them ended up buggering little boys.
MrHobiecat 9 months ago 5
A strawman video based on ignorance. Very typical to religious movements.
jfdoser 10 months ago 12
i mss smoking. Im coming marlboro lights
alangname 10 months ago
If u think morality comes from the bible then i urge u to read it. If u have and still maintain that it is moral then u're too stupid to understand what is written. In fact,u're almost guaranteed to be an imbecile. There has been 43 studies carried out since 1927 about the relationship between religious belief and ones intelligence and educational level. All but 4 show an inverse connection! That means the higher ones IQ or educational level the less one is likely to be religious
baniura 10 months ago 11
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@baniura @baniura I think you are innocent of recent scientific studies regarding the difference between believers and non-believers. Now is the time for you to know and search the facts that believers have far more better brain function and physical health than those people who do not recognize God. Scientifically speaking! =0)
rafraf28 10 months ago
@rafraf28 LOL
u are retarded.
SG02JATT 10 months ago 2
@rafraf28
Please cite your sources, I tried searching and failed to find a single study confirming a correlation between belief and intelligence (unless of course it was an inverse correlation).
HughJass275 10 months ago 6
@rafraf28
first off, for one with "more better brain function" you have awful grammar. which is statistically true for most believers. believers tend to have less of an emphasis on educatioin and rarely continue said education past highschool. Non-believers also statistically know more facts about the Bible and are more likely to have actually read more than a few chunks here and there.
second, could you please provide where you got your 'facts'?
alixinthemiddle 9 months ago
@rafraf28 Mhm , whatever keeps you sane and helps you sleep at night baniura :)
religious people always need to blanket themselves in non-factual statements because if they really, truly accepted the fact that their religion is a sham and is based on killing thousands of people because one god is better than the other, then what would you cling to? people need an understanding to cling to, the problem is we institutionalize everything and make it evil. regardless of what it is.
ryanbeatbox 5 months ago
@rafraf28 that would be cool, if it wast a complete fucking lie
wearestarstuffsagan 2 months ago
@rafraf28 Proof or you pulled it out of your ass.
typoking 1 month ago
"Atheist Learned Basic Morality From Their Common Ancestors." So you think evolution teaches that we evolved from modern primates? I should also point out that the Catholic Church now also accepts evolution. I would however question the morality of whoever gave cigarettes to these animals. So I am guessing by including that shot you are saying that evolution is wrong because a modern human gave cigarettes to orangutan. Thanks Mr. Irrelevant your a genius.
WillShakespeare2007 10 months ago 2
Oh, I guess I missed the part where Dawkins said, "All non-human primates, from monkeys to orangutans to chimpanzees act EXACTLY like adult humans living in post-modern societies."
That must be it, right? Because without that, your video is in no way relevant to Dawkin's hypothesis.
richsuga 11 months ago
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You will never really understand a letter which is not meant for you. I can't see any contradictions in the Bible but we can see prophecies of Christ which are truly happening. =0)
rafraf28 11 months ago
@rafraf28 Ok: Answer me this: How many people/angels where there at Jesus' tomb when he got resurrected. There's 3 different answers, all equally "right". As for prophecies: can you tell us a few non-obvious ones?
obijan42 9 months ago
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@rafraf28 "I can't see any contradictions in the Bible" [sic]
you clearly have not read your bible.....
frackcha 8 months ago
@rafraf28 your smiley's big nose makes you look like the ass clown you really are. Nice job!
typoking 1 month ago
0:44 .... Yeah... We come from that
Sonnicham 11 months ago
so smoking chimps dont have morals yet smoking humans do?
jacobpaprotskiy 11 months ago
@jacobpaprotskiy Are you saying that smoking is good moral for humans? Will you encourage children to smoke, is there any sense in smoking that humans and monkeys can get? =0)
rafraf28 11 months ago
@rafraf28 no actually I'm saying that smoking is not something you can morally say is good or bad; Yes you can define it bad according to health but not morals, which brings me to my next point none of what all those apes did can't be defined morally sure it may seem bad to someone with a sense of higene. OK lets say you seen a child drinking its pee, would you condemn it to hell. would you even think of condemning it. probability not. because you can't define it morally. Understand?
jacobpaprotskiy 11 months ago
@jacobpaprotskiy Children are innocent and you are not, you know more better what is good and what is moral if you will not act like a kid. And I know even small kid will never drink his own pee. You are just trying to escape in reasoning out atheist illogical belief. You are just mixing things up innocent children will never go for damnation but instead those people who are fully aware of doing injustice, greedy and immoral.
rafraf28 11 months ago
@rafraf28 you apparently did not get my point i meant that if a child 'hypothetically was to drink his pee but as I understand you do not understand the concept of a hypothetical situation. so let me make it simple: lets say you were to see me drinking my own pee. would you consider my act morally wrong, would you go so far as to condemn me to hell. Yes you would consider my act disgusting, but you wouldn't be able to call me immortal, because my act cant be judged on a mortal scale.(cont.)
jacobpaprotskiy 11 months ago
@rafraf28 (cont.) My act would be judged on a hygienic scale as wrong but not a moral one. My point is, is that you can't judge the acts of those apes on a moral scale as you attempted to do. You can, as my act, consider it wrong on a hygienic scale, which in fact are two different scales. So with the title of your video 'moral of atheists' you failed to show your point that apes are immoral... If you were to show them slaughtering each other over some stupid believes, but you did not so...
jacobpaprotskiy 11 months ago
@jacobpaprotskiy what you've seen with your ancestors in this video are they doing right or wrong? Basing on scientific studies ancestors traits can be passed on to descendants. And you accept that monkeys are your ancestors so there is no doubt that apes traits are your traits too. Understand?
rafraf28 11 months ago
@rafraf28 chimps aren't my ancestors they are my cousins we came from a common ancestor about 6m years ago. Well the thing is that you cant judge those acts morally for they are amoral in our minds, but if you had to ask I do find that sick.individual behavioral acts can rise and die in a population and they are not passed on genetically but passed through social bondage.(cont.)
jacobpaprotskiy 11 months ago
@rafraf28 (cont.) I wanted to share an example of behavioral acts not passing down: In the middle ages people used to eat with there hands, not take baths all of there lives shit anywhere they could going around brutally killing each other and that was the norm. yet we do not see people doing that today(normally). but according to you we should because our ancestors were doing that. understand?
jacobpaprotskiy 11 months ago
@jacobpaprotskiy You are speaking of your untidy ancestors but not mine. 1440 B.C before atheist have existed my ancestors wrote and taught proper hygiene just like in Leviticus 14:8 "The one to be cleansed shall then wash his clothes and shave off all his hair and bathe in water and be clean..." =0)
rafraf28 11 months ago
@rafraf28 funny how the torah was supposedly reviled to Moses in 1312 BCE and Judaism only shows up in 600 BCE so even then exactly what Leviticus are you talking about? anyway Im talking about the middle ages (5-15 C.E) you know were the church gains power, and Europe plummets into the dark ages. yeah people were barbarians then, and did all the stuff i pointed out earlier. yet we dont do that today why? because individual behavior is not passed down. i'd love to discuss the origin of the torah
jacobpaprotskiy 11 months ago
@jacobpaprotskiy How did you learn about dark ages then? Have you actually seen people back then or because you have read it in articles in have faith that it really happened?
rafraf28 11 months ago
@rafraf28 What do you think historians do?... Just sit there and make stuff up?
jacobpaprotskiy 11 months ago
@rafraf28 p.s 1312 BCE is the date jews themselves give the torah historians say it is a gathering and editing of prior according to Wikipedia it was composed and revised from 4 independent sources from 900 BCE to 500 BCE but i heard in other places that there were as much as 6, as Judaism slow evolved from polytheism to monotheism its pretty interesting to know for example that Abraham, Isaac and jacob were polytheists and worshiped a different god than moses: el-shadi while moses: Ya.
jacobpaprotskiy 11 months ago
@jacobpaprotskiy So you are also believing on everything you read? Or is that how you prove that what can we read in Leviticus 14:8 is true "The one to be cleansed shall then wash his clothes and shave off all his hair and bathe in water and be clean..." =0)
rafraf28 11 months ago
@rafraf28 first of all that is not a truth statement. even if it says that what's your point? anyway I do not believe everything i read. i believe stuff from credible unbiased sources. so do you have anything to say on my statement about abraham and moses believing in completely different gods exodus itself is a good example of this: "is there no one like you among gods, Yahweh " is a good example i do not remember exactly what verse of what chapter but its there. perfect example of polytheism.
jacobpaprotskiy 11 months ago
@jacobpaprotskiy If you truly believe and can stand to your statements. What are you trying to prove regarding Abraham and Moses? Do you accept the ancient Biblical historical facts?
rafraf28 11 months ago
@rafraf28 Im saying Judaism evolved from Babylonian and candianian polytheistic religions and the torah is evidence for that. most of the bible is historically bullshit but there may be truth and some characters are said to have existed i.e Abraham, but he did not believe in the one lord but, he believed in his god el-shadi also called el-elimum while exodus is completely fictional but also shows Jewish polytheistic origins.
jacobpaprotskiy 11 months ago
@jacobpaprotskiy Atheist are good in wild imagination and speculations. I can't see any truth from your statements, I know that your not even sure of your illusive and imaginary belief which you've read in some scrap article that seemingly basing your deceit.
rafraf28 11 months ago
@rafraf28 i didn't believe it at first either but then i did some research and found a consensus among my results i recommend you stick your head out of the dirt and do some research too, no offense, you will also see the Jesus character story is also plagiarized, on my opinion one source: the Egyptian god Horus. who waas worship as far back as 1280 BCE, very interesting the consensus you see in bolth of their stories.
jacobpaprotskiy 11 months ago
@jacobpaprotskiy You are talking out of your innocence, no intention of delivering the truth but obviously a bias deceit trying to convince me with your foolishness. Tacitus, a Roman historian is a non-biblical proof of Jesus Christ existence. Funny how atheist are so devoted with their faith which based on assumptions and speculations. =0)
rafraf28 11 months ago
@rafraf28 im saying if Jesus ever existed then he certainly wasn't the person who the bible depicted did you ever notice the tons and tons of contradictions in the new testament?
jacobpaprotskiy 11 months ago
@rafraf28 Yeah really!!! And thousands more crucified before his time. You see crucifiction by Romans has been a practice by roman emperors way longer than the time of Jesus. So you see, there is no messiah. Only poor people who were sacrificed to Roman emperor's whim. Also, the term "chrest" or "chrestians" was used by Nero to describe the arsonists of the Great Fire of Rome. It also refer to members of an axis of power between Rome and Alexandria. Holy or Political?
Normz111 10 months ago
@rafraf28 lol! For a genius, you sure know a lot about jack shit. You can't ~know~ that no kid in the world would try to drink their own urine. Are you serious? Let's not forget that your own religious book says that we, as human beings, are "Born dead in sin", which means that even ~children~ are not exempt from the wrath of God unless indoctrinated into the faith. Paul clearly stated that we were all spiritually dead in our sin in Ephesians 2:1-3
typoking 1 month ago
Did you know that only from Bible we first read these things:
"honor thy father and mother " Ephesians 6:2
"He who devise evil, he shall be called a mischievous person" Proverbs 24:8
"Do not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not covet" Romans 13:9
"Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them." Colossians 3:19
"Honour all men." I Peter 2:17
"The evil doer his face: but as for the upright, his ways." Proverbs 21:29
rafraf28 11 months ago
The question did we inherent our morals from our ancestors is an incorrect. We inherit the ability to learn from our ancestors. 6 million years ago our ancestor's brain and body was the same as the ancestor's of chimpanzees. Since that time our body has changed slightly and or brain has grown a lot. Enough to take over the world and dominate all other life forms. Thinking we are super special might just be a religious delusion of grandeur. Human behavior supports just that don’t you think?
samten54 11 months ago
@samten54 Maybe you just cannot accept what kind of moral your ancestors have. But we as Christians learned true morality basing from our ancestors who have written literally the Bible earlier before atheist have existed and evolved to be mindless. =0)
rafraf28 11 months ago
@rafraf28 What about Buddhists? They don’t follow the bible, they have high moral standards, there hasn’t been a war to support Buddhism and they are happy and kind people. No bible in sight and no creator god believed.
samten54 11 months ago
@samten54 Why aren't you Buddhist then? I also know some people who strictly follow Bible, and yet they have high moral standards, they even love their enemies and they are happy and kind people. Buddhism is just similar from atheism where "foundation" are from men with flaws and erroneous beliefs.
rafraf28 11 months ago
@rafraf28 People can be good in spite of their religion.
God encourages slavery Leviticus 25:44-46 Exodus 21:17 and 20-21 1Peter 1:18
God encourages torture Revelation 9:4-6 Revelation 20:10-15
God encourages child abuse Genesis 22:2-10 Exodus 12:29 2Kings 2:23-24 Psalm 137:9 Jeremiah 19:9
God encourages rape: Zechariah 14:1-2 2Samuel 12:11 Deuteronomy 22:28-29
samten54 11 months ago
@samten54 Well it is nice to see that atheist like you truly believes in things written in the Bible. Sometimes it is ridiculous to see that somebody who does not believe in God will use God’s word in casting doubts upon the integrity of the very same person he does not believe to exist. =0)
rafraf28 11 months ago
@rafraf28
You choose to misinterpret a comment that shows the God of the bible was invented to appeal to a very base audience at a time long before human rights were ever considered. The fact that the bible is so lacking in sensitivity to the welfare of people shows it is man made and very poorly at that.
samten54 11 months ago
Did you know that atheists make up about 15% of the US population but less than 0.5% of the US prison population? These government statistics are taken as criminals enter prison so conversions are not contaminating the results. Why do you think that is? If what you say is true atheists should fill the prisons. It seems god belief either causes crime or fails to stop it. One or the other or both.
samten54 11 months ago
So if I pick and choose clips about paedophile priests, Christians fightings wars, parent killing his/hers child because they heard voices, parents refusing to take their child to the hospital and relying on praying instead, mega-church "preachers" with their private jets, Christians campaigning against condom use thus spreading AIDS, Christians campaigning against stem-cell research, and so on, would you agree that Christianity is pretty shitty cult.
Saukko31 11 months ago
@Saukko31 Don't you know that there were mentioned in the Bible of professing they are of God but committing ungodly acts? Don't blame and generalized the things that you don't know we all know that greedy people are every where and some of them are using the name of Christianity.
The fact is atheist are baseless with regards of morality but looking on their ancestors no doubt what kind of behavior and moral their children can get from them. =0(
rafraf28 11 months ago
@rafraf28 "The fact is atheist are baseless with regards of morality but looking on their ancestors no doubt what kind of behavior and moral their children can get from them."
I'm pretty sure the bible also says something about true Christians not judging other people. However, disregarding the bible, anyone can pick up a book and declare its contents to be the basis for morality. Which is what the followers of the Abrahamic religions have done.
Gnomefro 11 months ago
@rafraf28 You might of course object and say that it's really "God" who is the base, but you'd be wrong. All you know about the god and his alleged laws comes from you interpreting a book written by unknown authors. The mere fact that it's your interpretation, and that there are millions of people who will tell you that your interpretation is wrong - regardless of what you believe - should tell you that the approach with revealed scripture is an utter failure that does not ground morality.
Gnomefro 11 months ago
Morals from the bible include keeping slaves, killing your sons, having sex with your daughters and saying ignorant. Christians are so stupid.
NotEnoughLions 11 months ago 2
@NotEnoughLions You are just ignorant and disregarding the tons of good morals for humanity that were mentioned in the Bible.
rafraf28 11 months ago
@rafraf28 Good morals like killing whole races and taking their virgin girls as slaves. Wake up to yourself you deluded idiot.
NotEnoughLions 11 months ago
@NotEnoughLions who kill the whole races and taking virgin girl as slaves?
rafraf28 11 months ago
@rafraf28 Moses and his mates.
NotEnoughLions 11 months ago
@rafraf28 What you are saying is we should ignore the fact that God killed, encouraged slavery and condoned daughters getting pregnant to their father and just pick the good bits. We can do that with any book. The funny thing is you try to pretend there is some moral message here. The bible is a disaster and that’s probably why early Christians were forbidden to read it.
samten54 11 months ago
@samten54 Is there anyone can escape death? Everything tangible destined to certain time of it's end and Who ever is the author of life has the right to take the given life. Who forbids to read the Bible are you sure they are truly Christians? Do you really know what Christian means?
rafraf28 11 months ago
@rafraf28The early leaders of Christianity forbade the peasants the right to read the bible. 500 years ago and before that. What makes a christian is exactly the same thing that makes a Hindu, a Muslim or any religious person. Belief in something they are told is true by those they love and depend on. That’s how religions continue from one generation to the next. They all argue their beliefs are the right ones. You and all religious people are just following a known pattern.
samten54 11 months ago
@samten54 Your assumption of early Christian is pertaining to Roman catholicism. Roman catholic are not truly christian they are the most contradicting the Bible. =0)
rafraf28 11 months ago
@rafraf28 Early Christians WERE the Roman Catholics. That’s YOUR lineage. Without them you wouldn’t have ever heard about your Jesus. You should show some respect even if you don’t agree with their view. I of course don’t agree with either view.
samten54 11 months ago
at least apes don't kill eachother because their invisible sky daddy says so ;)
mcmadbat3 11 months ago
@mcmadbat3 have you ever tried to play with Baboons and Gorillas and prove that they will never kill you as their descendant. =0)
rafraf28 11 months ago
@rafraf28 people kill people, therefore people are not people's descendant? Epic fail
mcmadbat3 11 months ago
Is there nothing religious that cannot be logically or evidentially refuted? The answer is no. Then why do people continue to believe in it? The best answer I can find is: “Religion is a trauma inflicted upon the young through the abuse of parental power.” - Stefan Molyneux. As such, we must treat the religious as trauma victims and be sympathetic that they do not think or act from logic or reasoning but from psychological abuse that has convinced them that the supernatural is true.
AtheistEutopia 11 months ago