For looking through differing videos on Lordship Salvation(my own research as I believe that and now the second video and not sure where all the opposition to Lordship Salvation). Decided on a different video to not bring this out but here more appropriate-when people leave in willfullsin-if dealt with in a biblical way of church discipline we are to treat them as a lost person so that (somewhat my assumption) treated as a lost person so they can learn what they did was sin.
@theheat151 I tried to show him even as Arminians believe,that if God chose the choosers,knowing the saved and lost before time means HE still would not be waiting on "all" people to come in 2Peter 3:9 because that would make God out to be a moron.It would also mean that ALL doesn't mean everyone without exception.They just don't think there belief all the way through.It is amazing how some can believe God is all knowing and God is still holding out hope for people with no hope of coming.
Do you even understand what "respector of persons" means? Before Christ, salvations was for the Jews ONLY. Now, both Jew and Gentile can be elected to salvation through this New Covenant.
Yet Jesus said he ONLY died for many(Mark 14:24,) his sheep(John 10:11) and only for his friends(John 15:13). Either Jesus was lying about only dying for a certain number of people, or you're contradicting Jesus by thinking ultra-literally into thinking "all" means ALL i.e. every person that has ever lived including those who died before Jesus in unbelief.
So, you're not a Independant Fundamental KJV-Only Baptist? If you are, then you are the first to say that you didn't come from the Anabaptists since many KJV-Only Baptists make that claim.
And I have yet to describe your position? I just did in the previous posts. You're a 4-point Arminian/Semi-Pelagian/Synergist. You're probably a Dispensationalist too, huh? Maybe if you bothered to educate yourself, you would see that I am right.
You came from the Anabaptists, who many were Unitarians. The Catholics, the Reformed and even King James ALL considered the Anabaptists heretics. It's ironic that today many of you are KJV-Onlyists. *facepalm*
Oh, i see now. It's ok for you and your buddy here to try to "disprove" Calvinism but when a Calivnist has you in the corner - it's a waste of time and prevents them to preach the Gospel? smh... I do preach the Gospel, BUT I also take the time to rebuke Humanistic doctrines(Arminianism, Synergism, Semi-Pelagianism) that have been deteriorating the churches in America since the Second and Third 'Great Awakenings' of the 19th century.
Have you ever heard of Google? You can find the definitions of those words there. Quit being so ignorant. It's funny how you say i should try reading into scriptural context, but you have yet to refute anything that I have said. You just want all the glory to yourself by beLIEving that YOU chose God. Does the sheep choose its Shepherd? Or does the Shepherd choose his sheep?
Quit boasting about yourself and give God ALL the Glory. Soli Deo Gloria!
Sorry, but it is YOU 4-point Arminians and Semi-Pelagians who love to take verses out of context. How can you say that you are a "Bible-believer", yet deny Monergism?
All you have been saying is "blah, blah, blah" w/o any Scripture to support your Synergist belief. I have given at least 9 passages where Monergism is supported, while you have cried like a humanist. I have yet to see any non-Calvinist debunk Monergism. And I am pretty sure you cannot either.
We both can use the KJV, and I GUARANTEE you that you won't succeed in refuting Monergism. "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me DRAW him" - John 6:44
Also, are you even aware that in the Hebraic culture the father would choose the bride for his son? This is the same with YHVH and Jesus. YHVH chose the Bride for his Son, Jesus. You did not choose to become the Bride, YHVH chose you.
No, I wasn't elected by God because of my intellect. YHVH chose me none other to show his grace towards me who doesn't deserve it.
So, since we both have the Bible, KJV, and the Holy Spirit - Show me how Monergism is wrong. Show me how you were able to call on God unlike the dead man in Luke 7. Show me how YOU unable to use your "free-will" for your physical can use it for your spiritual birth.
No Calvinist ever said that we are the "chosen ones" or are part of an elite club. ALL those who are in Christ, Arminian/Semi-Pelagian/Synergist or Calvinist/Monergist, are chosen and elected by God. That is what Reformed Theology teaches.
John Calvin never mentioned it because he had the Geneva Bible, which comes from the 'Textus Receptus'. You know, those same texts that the KJV comes from. You do know that King James was a Calvinist right? He was baptized by a Calvinist, John Knox.
And those videos you have are ridiculous. Just to let you know before I became a "Calvinist" this year, I was a 4-point Arminian(like you) the two years before. So I know the arguments used to try to "refute" Calvinism. Monergism!
I have used Scripture to support myself, while you cry like a humanist. You semi-Pelagians are always about yourself with your "Me, Me, Me!".
What makes you any different than the dead man in Luke 7? If you had NOTHING to do with your physical birth, then what makes you think you had anything to do with your spiritual one? It's ALL the work of God ALONE. Soli Deo Gloria!
How about you learn the Bible? Scriptures support Monergism and not SINergism. The dead man in Luke 7, John 1:12-13, John 6:44, Ephesians 2:8, and countless others support Monergism.
Wrong! The IT is referring to FAITH because it is "not of yourselves" since men does not have faith(2 Thes 3:2). We are all like the dead man from Luke 7. We cannot "arise" unless God draws us to him(John 6:44). Just as man had no control over his physical birth, the same applies to his spiritual one. Shalom!
For looking through differing videos on Lordship Salvation(my own research as I believe that and now the second video and not sure where all the opposition to Lordship Salvation). Decided on a different video to not bring this out but here more appropriate-when people leave in willfullsin-if dealt with in a biblical way of church discipline we are to treat them as a lost person so that (somewhat my assumption) treated as a lost person so they can learn what they did was sin.
daveme7 1 year ago
Could this guy be Pastor Steve Anderson's brother? lol
Excellent preaching. Love it when the word is actually being taught.
FORMETOKNOWONLY 1 year ago
@FORMETOKNOWONLY
No affiliation with Steve Anderson, besides being family in Christ.
Slight doctrinal differences also, but fortunately not on salvation.
LauderdaleBaptist 1 year ago
@CutClip
Do you have Facebook, CutClip? I would really prefer to have discussions with you there...that is if you do have it. YT, for me, is very limited.
theheat151 1 year ago
@theheat151 I tried to show him even as Arminians believe,that if God chose the choosers,knowing the saved and lost before time means HE still would not be waiting on "all" people to come in 2Peter 3:9 because that would make God out to be a moron.It would also mean that ALL doesn't mean everyone without exception.They just don't think there belief all the way through.It is amazing how some can believe God is all knowing and God is still holding out hope for people with no hope of coming.
CBALLEN 1 year ago
@CutClip
Do you even understand what "respector of persons" means? Before Christ, salvations was for the Jews ONLY. Now, both Jew and Gentile can be elected to salvation through this New Covenant.
theheat151 1 year ago
@CutClip
Yet Jesus said he ONLY died for many(Mark 14:24,) his sheep(John 10:11) and only for his friends(John 15:13). Either Jesus was lying about only dying for a certain number of people, or you're contradicting Jesus by thinking ultra-literally into thinking "all" means ALL i.e. every person that has ever lived including those who died before Jesus in unbelief.
theheat151 1 year ago
@CutClip
So, you're not a Independant Fundamental KJV-Only Baptist? If you are, then you are the first to say that you didn't come from the Anabaptists since many KJV-Only Baptists make that claim.
And I have yet to describe your position? I just did in the previous posts. You're a 4-point Arminian/Semi-Pelagian/Synergist. You're probably a Dispensationalist too, huh? Maybe if you bothered to educate yourself, you would see that I am right.
theheat151 1 year ago
@CutClip
You came from the Anabaptists, who many were Unitarians. The Catholics, the Reformed and even King James ALL considered the Anabaptists heretics. It's ironic that today many of you are KJV-Onlyists. *facepalm*
theheat151 1 year ago
@CutClip
Oh, i see now. It's ok for you and your buddy here to try to "disprove" Calvinism but when a Calivnist has you in the corner - it's a waste of time and prevents them to preach the Gospel? smh... I do preach the Gospel, BUT I also take the time to rebuke Humanistic doctrines(Arminianism, Synergism, Semi-Pelagianism) that have been deteriorating the churches in America since the Second and Third 'Great Awakenings' of the 19th century.
theheat151 1 year ago
@theheat151
don't forget to rebuke hippopotamusism, brontosaurusism, platypusism, and Australopithecusism
CutClip 1 year ago
@CutClip
Have you ever heard of Google? You can find the definitions of those words there. Quit being so ignorant. It's funny how you say i should try reading into scriptural context, but you have yet to refute anything that I have said. You just want all the glory to yourself by beLIEving that YOU chose God. Does the sheep choose its Shepherd? Or does the Shepherd choose his sheep?
Quit boasting about yourself and give God ALL the Glory. Soli Deo Gloria!
theheat151 1 year ago
@CutClip
Sorry, but it is YOU 4-point Arminians and Semi-Pelagians who love to take verses out of context. How can you say that you are a "Bible-believer", yet deny Monergism?
theheat151 1 year ago
@CutClip
Show me Scripture where it says God chose all men to be saved! John 6:44 destroys that theory into pieces. Are you a Universalist?
theheat151 1 year ago
@CutClip
All you have been saying is "blah, blah, blah" w/o any Scripture to support your Synergist belief. I have given at least 9 passages where Monergism is supported, while you have cried like a humanist. I have yet to see any non-Calvinist debunk Monergism. And I am pretty sure you cannot either.
We both can use the KJV, and I GUARANTEE you that you won't succeed in refuting Monergism. "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me DRAW him" - John 6:44
theheat151 1 year ago
@CutClip
Also, are you even aware that in the Hebraic culture the father would choose the bride for his son? This is the same with YHVH and Jesus. YHVH chose the Bride for his Son, Jesus. You did not choose to become the Bride, YHVH chose you.
theheat151 1 year ago
@CutClip
No, I wasn't elected by God because of my intellect. YHVH chose me none other to show his grace towards me who doesn't deserve it.
So, since we both have the Bible, KJV, and the Holy Spirit - Show me how Monergism is wrong. Show me how you were able to call on God unlike the dead man in Luke 7. Show me how YOU unable to use your "free-will" for your physical can use it for your spiritual birth.
theheat151 1 year ago
@CutClip
No Calvinist ever said that we are the "chosen ones" or are part of an elite club. ALL those who are in Christ, Arminian/Semi-Pelagian/Synergist or Calvinist/Monergist, are chosen and elected by God. That is what Reformed Theology teaches.
theheat151 1 year ago
@CutClip
Why would I be a JW, Mormon or a Muslim? Niether of them teach Monergism not teach the Biblical Jesus Christ.
theheat151 1 year ago
@CutClip
John Calvin never mentioned it because he had the Geneva Bible, which comes from the 'Textus Receptus'. You know, those same texts that the KJV comes from. You do know that King James was a Calvinist right? He was baptized by a Calvinist, John Knox.
And those videos you have are ridiculous. Just to let you know before I became a "Calvinist" this year, I was a 4-point Arminian(like you) the two years before. So I know the arguments used to try to "refute" Calvinism. Monergism!
theheat151 1 year ago
@CutClip
I have used Scripture to support myself, while you cry like a humanist. You semi-Pelagians are always about yourself with your "Me, Me, Me!".
What makes you any different than the dead man in Luke 7? If you had NOTHING to do with your physical birth, then what makes you think you had anything to do with your spiritual one? It's ALL the work of God ALONE. Soli Deo Gloria!
theheat151 1 year ago
@theheat151
you don't want to debate me.
I'll slice and dice you.
I'm super smart!
CutClip 1 year ago
@CutClip
LOL'ocaust! I'll use the KJV to support my stance, most definitely, since it is a Calvinist Bible.
theheat151 1 year ago
@CutClip
Also, John 3:8 and John 3:18-21 also support Monergism. And don't get me started on "whosoever" and the Greek word 'pas' that was used in John 3:16.
theheat151 1 year ago
@CutClip
How about you learn the Bible? Scriptures support Monergism and not SINergism. The dead man in Luke 7, John 1:12-13, John 6:44, Ephesians 2:8, and countless others support Monergism.
theheat151 1 year ago
@LauderdaleBaptist
Wrong! The IT is referring to FAITH because it is "not of yourselves" since men does not have faith(2 Thes 3:2). We are all like the dead man from Luke 7. We cannot "arise" unless God draws us to him(John 6:44). Just as man had no control over his physical birth, the same applies to his spiritual one. Shalom!
theheat151 1 year ago
Faith is a gift from God(Ephesians 2:8). Shalom
theheat151 1 year ago