Cleopatra (1963) Part 24

[turtlewings]

There has never been such a silence? that was the most long-winded death speech ever.

[MegaWolfgang]

I get the impression that The Romans did not know who the boy actually was.

[Kesharox999]

Cleopatra is clever of how she knew her son was already killed so she swore on his LIFE!!!!!!!

[MrJgprintz]

THE RING MOTIF BUT NOT WAGNER'S. In this film Pompey's ring passes from Pompey to Ptolemy XIII to Caesar to Caesarion, and finally to Octavian. It is from Octavian's wearing it, that Cleopatra realizes that her son had been killed by Octavian. The ring apparently signifies total rule or absolute power. This ring theme is very easy to miss because, in most the film, the ring is not talked about at all, and it's changes of ownership are given only pictorially.

[arrostico2]

PART OF THE MOVIE DIE Caesarion IS

[Iluthra]

The subtlety of Taylor's acting at 9:10 is superb, knowing of the death of Caesar's son merely seeing the ring on Octavian's finger.

[kissebb]

Why did McDowall try to imitate the way how Richard Burton speak when Octavian says "dying of such man, must be shouted, screamed...", I mean Burton's Welsh accent??? weird

[E5Gfreak]

Wow, Who knew that Octavian would honor Mark Anthony's name like that.....Roman people are disgusting how fast they change sides, and how they do not honorably honor the great(like Caesar). I suppose only your rival knows your worth.

[bangles888]

Beautiful pair and beautiful words.. They were as much in love for the rest of their days...

[Licmycat]

If I were her...I would have chomped his DIC off!!!! I ain't kiddin!!

[marsJOHNYmars]

His name was Antony.

[njova25]

That stupid motherfucker why did he lie to Anthony.

[ViewerMovies3002]

I saw this movie last night. It's even longer than Gone With the Wind. I thought it was a really good movie. R.I.P. Elizabeth Taylor. May you forever be remembered in our hearts.

[MrBillcale]

The Ptolemies, throughout their dynasty, spoke Greek and refused to speak Egyptian, which is the reason that Greek as well as Egyptian languages were used on official court documents like the Rosetta Stone. By contrast, Cleopatra did learn to speak Egyptian and represented herself as the reincarnation of an Egyptian goddess, Isis.

for all you militant anti euro types just get your history strait cleopatra was greek greeks are european not african okay?

[MrBillcale]

Cleopatra VII Philopator (in Greek, Κλεοπάτρα Φιλοπάτωρ; (Late 69 BC[1] – August 12, 30 BC) was the last pharaoh of Ancient Egypt.

She was a member of the Ptolemaic dynasty, a family of Greekorigin which ruled Egypt after Alexander the Great's death during the Hellenistic period.

[Mittenzzs]

I was pissed at Apollodorus!!!

[honeybee7700]

@Mittenzzs me too :(

[Akeliahsmusic89]

great movie but the way these supposed legends chose to end it was weak!! as a leader u never put urself bfore the goodness of ur followers!!!all that bullshit cuz they loved each other...fuck this movie becuz all i cin think is there death cant come quick enuff!!!

[linket88]

"...mmm..poison..test on one of the badly wounded"...jeezzz lol that cracked me up

[HistoryLover1550]

"On the life of my son!"

Love that line! Cleopatra was trully a devoted Mom!

[HistoryLover1550]

When they met, Cleopatra's said to have "cast sweet looks at him and murmured sweet words" yet Octavian "looked as though he had been unaware of them and looked toward the ground." She asked him 2 times in the interview for her kids to be spared if she gave up her throne and Octavian wouldn't answer, the bastard.

[HistoryLover1550]

Most experts are now agreeing Octavian killed Cleopatra and made up the Asp myth to cover it up.

[HistoryLover1550]

it's said Cleopatra tore her clothes, beat her breasts, raked them with her nails, smeared some of Antony's blood over her face and called him her master, husband and Emperor.

[Abridgedfan134]

@HistoryLover1550 That was in fact the Egyptian custom when grieving a husband, Isis did it for Osiris, and Cleopatra, being 'Nea Isis' did the same for both Caesar and Anthony

[HistoryLover1550]

@Abridgedfan134 I know, I always thought it was a loving custom. I've loved Ancient Egyptian culture and history since I was a kid.

[Abridgedfan134]

@HistoryLover1550 "Loving" isn't the right word I think, its one of those customs that made Egyptians strange, even for their own time

[HistoryLover1550]

@Abridgedfan134 I agree, it was a rather unusual custom.

[HistoryLover1550]

Cleopatra's palace and tomb were only several hundred meters apart and linked by a causeway.

[HistoryLover1550]

I read in a Encyclopedia on Ancient Egypt that Caligula killed Antony & Cleopatra's second son, Ptolomey Philadelphos.

[HistoryLover1550]

RIP Antony

[HistoryLover1550]

Cleopatra & Antony 4ever!!!

[Gingie4life]

Y THE BASTARD BLONDE GUY WANTED CLEO TO LEAVE WITH HIM TO ROME????? DID HE WANNT HER OR WAT?

[honeybee7700]

@Gingie4life no he was gay in real life.

[antonipuig1]

quina gran puta va ser la Elizabeth Taylor

[Domiamrtd]

thank you for this movie share more please

[prettyneat86]

high heels didn't exist back then? Her costumes are beautiful and so are her curly hairdos, but not very authentic to the time period...

[foodfoodf00d]

this film portrayed augustus as such a weirdo. or was he really ...

[honeybee7700]

@foodfoodf00d he was in love with agrippa in real life.

[zenman5910]

I can still find it in my heart to hate the Roman empire even though it is gone, or is it?

[GunterIII]

WHY THE HELL did that dude lie to General Antony??! LOSER!!!

[honeybee7700]

@GunterIII i know!!!

[Beatleschick1]

Thats not cool what Apollos did. Not cool at all. Lying to Antony.

[MegaBabyboy13]

oooh this is so sad

[zthetha]

I suppose when you've spent a zillion dollars on lavish sets and crowd scenes you've gotta skimp on something and alas in this case it was the script . It is ludicrously pretentious. Camera work back then was stilted and predictable and the overblown gilded sets look very DIY in close up. But the actors had charisma and talent - alas, our greatest actor, Robert Stevens, who might have been used to great effect did little more than troll around looking for somewhere to park his hat.

[Bez1960]

@zthetha You're in a hyper-critical mood...

[briefboyz]

@zthetha It is well known that this whole production was beset with problems not least the infighting amongst the production team. Mankiewicz did well to rescue it and produce such a film. There are definately holes in the script but some of it is both moving and thought provoking. One thing is for sure, it beats hands down many of the films that have been made since it.

[DamonParisOfficial]

Men of the world are always bickering and fussing about earthly things. let the dead deal with their own dead and let those that live hear the words of JESUS CHRIST.

Blessed are those who can hear these words AND UNDERSTAND THIS MESSAGE.

[antoninus138]

The reality is he would be in agony. No words to speak.

[Abridgedfan134]

"Now you flatter yourself"

Ouch

[Abridgedfan134]

"Now you flatter yourself"

Ouch

[Tenor5274]

to think that the likes of Calligula and Nero were descendants of this man (Octavian)...Antony if only you had fought this war on land where you most certainly would have won! The world may have taken a very different course and spared the atrocities of Calligula and Nero and the likes!

[bookkeeper57]

They were Octavian's (aka Augustus Caesar) heirs, but Caligula and Nero were not related to him by blood. They were members of the Claudian family, to

whom the Caesars were ruinously related by marriage.

[Tenor5274]

even so....I still maintain that if Cleopatra and Marc Antony had won at Actium...things probably would have been quite different in a positive manner. Of course, we'll never know that for sure but just looking at Octavian and how he murdered Cesarian...speaks volumes to me about his true nature.

[yosefbenyosef]

@Tenor5274 Once again u demonstrate an almost criminal misread of history. So now based on this movie u know about Octavian's nature? The movie did not mention the children Cleopatra had with Marc Antony. Did u know about them. Damn what a criminal negligence the US education has been to neglect a proper study of history.

[yosefbenyosef]

@Tenor5274

Well Cleopatra and Antony did not win at Actium and had Augustus Caesar not existed then it is very possible that there would be no USA. Augustus is one of those figures in history who laid the foundations of the modern world in which u live.

[MsLilcleopatra]

@yosefbenyosef u r wrong because if augustus hadnt existed then the great civilization of ancient egypt would still exist!!!!!

[1972jewish]

he had to, a.way, Caesarion was a true son of Caesar & could dispute him the power in Rome

[yosefbenyosef]

@Tenor5274 WTF. Please shut up! If this and If that. Caligula was NOT the direct descendent of Augustus Caesar just as he was not Julius Caesar's son. There were very few natural sons of Roman Emperors who succeeded their fathers as these were usually adopted. I guarantee that with the lack of knowledge u have shown on Octavian that any view u have on Caligula and Nero has no merit.

[paixx12]

@yosefbenyosef You are wrong! Caligula was indeed a descendant of Augustus through Caligula's mother Agrippina the Major, who was a daughter of Julia the Elder, who was the only daughter of Augustus Caesar. Your abject ignorance of this fact throws into question everything else you have said here: "without merit." What goes around, comes around.

[yosefbenyosef]

@Tenor5274

Caligula was adopted by Tiberius Caesar who again was not the son of Augustus.

Yes. He was mad but only ruled a few months. Nero is the victim of Christian propaganda which apparently u r 2 lazy to have studied for its flaws or lack enough knowledge to deduce the truth from the lies.

[Bez1960]

@yosefbenyosef Caligula ruled for 3 years, 10 months and 8 days (Suetonius, Caligula para: 59) and as Paixx12 rightly points out, he was a true descendant of Augustus (formerly Octavian), he was his great-grandson via his daughter Julia and her daughter Agrippina...

[1972jewish]

Calligula & Nero wasnt descendants from Octavian. he adopted Germanicus maior & from him came these 2

[Bez1960]

@1972jewish Caligula was a true descendant of Augustus, he was his great grandson, and Nero was also a true descendant, Augustus' great-great grandson (he was Caligula's nephew through his sister who eventually married the aged Claudius - his great uncle - who subsequently adopted him)

[Bez1960]

@Tenor5274 Some other maniacs would have taken their places lol

[ausrusland]

"Shake with terror in such words, pass your lips. For fear they be untrue and I'd cut out your tounge for the lie. And if true, for your lifetime boust that you were honor to speak his name even in death. Dying of such a man, must be shouted, screamed, it must have go back from the corners of the universe, Antony is dead! Mark Antony of Rome lives no more!"

[bookkeeper57]

Great writing: underscores the importance of Antony. Even when he failed, he was epic in the eyes of his Roman contemporaries.

[91FroSt91]

That was by far my most favorite line in the entire movie

Even though they were arch enemies, Octavian had the greatest deal of respect for Anthony.. Actors do not act with such passion any more and you don't hear lines like that anymore and more importantly, People don't talk like that at all anymore.

That movie was one of the greatest movies I've ever seen ... Such movie is a work of art .. no nudity to hide the weak storylines like the movies nowadays.

Thank you for writing this line :)

[TheSutphen]

Octavian is lying he has killed cleopatra's son. That's why she looked down when seeing the ring that ceaser gave to his son.

[Iluthra]

Oddly, her twins by Antony were allowed to live, cared for by his wife.

[HistoryLover1550]

@Iluthra Plus their third son Ptolemy Philadelphos.

[Gingie4life]

@TheSutphen SO Y HE LIED TO HER ASKING HER TO LEAVE TO ROME??? so sad thatt cleo son died 2 :(

[spaciousgalaxy]

I don't understand 1:41 to 1:47. Can someone please explain that part?

[MareTranquil]

I believe that was just make entering the tomb harder for Octavian. That big gate wouldnt be of much use if there is an elevator just next to it.

[Tsubahi]

That is horrible.:(

[KnyazSerafimYusupov]

A little late, and most unconvincing, for the ignoble Octavius to become so outraged with one of his officers for saying, "Antony is dead." If this cowardly, false "Caesar" had been slain in battle, the entire couse of European history would have been very, very different.

[yosefbenyosef]

Coward? Yes. Brilliant politician and wit? Absolutely. However this Hollywood portrayal pales in the reality which became Augustus Caesar. At least he was in the proximity of the battlefield which is more than what can be said of today's chickenhawk politics of the USA.

[Oldcartoons571]

Well genrals now arent like that were before

[KnyazSerafimYusupov]

What exquisitely beautiful use of the English language. What a far, far stratus above the vulgarity and obscenity that bursts from so many modern Hollywood films today. As Abridgefan134 says: " 'There has never been such a silence.' What a line." And what about "A kiss to take my breath away" and others in this brief scene. Exquisite.

[Abridgedfan134]

"There has never been such a silence"

What a line

[lilly032]

soo sad lol

[GreyEyesCrying]

Stupid jealous man. Wait until Antony tries to kill himself, THEN tell him Cleo is alive.

[KnyazSerafimYusupov]

Agreed. However, Apollodorus, the Queen's devoted servant, had always loved her, silently, since before he carried Her, wrapped in a carpet, and deposited Her at the feet of Julius Caesar. So, to me, his being a stupid, jealous man is completely understandable.

[spaciousgalaxy]

Incredibly beautiful at 8:36...

[kousee]

nooo :( T___T