The impoverished people of the world have less as they are wanting, thus they are: IMPOVERISHED. Having less is a cop-out. America's foundering middle class would live in large piles of hollowed out, hardened elephant shit to “save” mother Earth if the corporate media instructed them to.
College would only have cost him money. College for such people who already know what they want to do and how to do it is superfluous. But he's still senile. Shame, really.
@margiedemello Proud of Obama? Let's be honest, Obama has been a disappointment. He caved in to the republicans over and over and over, giving them everything they could have hoped for. He also considers himself seperate from progressives. He's not for change, he's a puppet, just like his predecessor.
Thats because our educational system is bogged down trying to deal with malcontents and gangs. Heaven forbid we should offend any of these hoodlums. The lack of personal responsibility that other countries hold, we have no concept of. Our family unit disappeared with the Ward and June Cleaver. Single parents are sidetracked trying to deal with living on minimal income, work multiple jobs and not be at home to raise their kids. Its a wonderful culture we have here.
@djs259 Yes.. he got in because of his skin color and he did well because he's smart. Your comment only demonstrates that affirmative action is necessary. "White people" are too afraid and non-trusting because they have treated all other races as "less-than" for thousands of years and are weary of payback and by "white people" I'm referring to people like you.
@kotkee Any government or political philosophy that seeks to socially engineer society. Examples: Communism, National Socialism (Nazism), Fascism, Progressivism, etc. It is the opposite of distributed, small government that maximizes individual liberty on which the USA was founded upon.
@thedavidwilson 1.A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. I think you got told the wrong definition.
And what did those fragmented local governments consisting of a sheriff, a business bigwig and his dog preside over? Mostly wage slaves and religious ignoramuses. Both socialism and anarchism gained popularity in the US during the 19th century because the US very quickly became what it castigated Europe for being: a little gang of bosses presiding over wage slaves. It has always ebbed and flowed because the public has been periodically bought off with the trinkets of mass production.
@thedavidwilson no lack of education means majority of high school graduates can't point out England on a map or know who wrote the declaration of independence, lack of education means juniors and seniors can't do basic math, wind up graduating (no child left behind!! wahoo!!!) wind up working at wal mart or fast food chains and hope for the best...
@nappyweed111 The only solution is greater involvement by the federal government into education. More taxes and funding of public education will fix things!
@thedavidwilson no no you're absolutely right, let us continue our current route and keep cutting teacher salaries and keep cutting funding for schools (like they just did in mys tate) because hey the vast majority of those graduates who can't do basic algebra and geometry, well hey it'll work itself out....oh I know let's do vouchers, that will work!!! LOL
"America has the worst education in the first world" so ,what the fuck does that mean only that the U.S education system is less fucked up than the shitty european systems. All education systems are there to give you enough knowledge to function in a job and keep the corporate machine running smoothly, but keeps you dumb enough not to see through the charade that is Government. By the way, I am European not a Texan Neo-Con.
I'm sorry, but were we supposed to gain something of any intrinsic, redeeming value from this interview? All I learned is that he's quasi-gay and that the world thinks Americans are stupid. Maybe that's all we were supposed to get from just such an interview and from just such a host, don't know.
@BloodTar I agree, all I'm getting from this interview is the obvious opinions of a "tell it like it is" elderly man. The interviewer isn't exactly challenging...
Gore's first mistake was to say that he likes Obama and hilary. Funny guy though. Take's some kinda balls to say on tv he'd go to DC and do some killing.
I just had to LMFAO LMFAO Multiple times after watching that Imbecile Bush spew out of his pie hole the words, "We are going to Launch a Crusade", LMFAO! Americans sure are stupid in large numbers!
As much as I love Gore Vidal, and on the whole agree with him, he was born into a rich family, and was a privileged child. He was "blessed" (for lack of a better term - non religious) with an excellent educated. Poorer people can't pay for that.
@DrFlaxWebFLOO I agree with your assessment, with a caveat. There are plenty of others born to rich families, living privileged childhoods, and afforded excellent educations. However, many are not so quick to speak out against the established system the way that Vidal did. For those others, the only thing time they speak up is when their quarterly dividend cheques are late.
This from the Christian Science Monitor "But as a whole, European universities have stagnated by almost every measure- from funding to achievements in research to graduation rates". I would also note the article's comments from Jiao Tong Univ. in Shanghai ranking the 20 top international universities. 17 were American, and 2, TWO were European. Also note that 21% of Europeans complete higher education, while 38% of Americans do. (cont).
He is absolutly right! but what he doesn't know is that Obama and Hilary are both a fucking joke. Puppets that are controled by the same puppet masters! FUCK MONSANTO AND FUCK THE OBAMA REGIME!
Of course, all Elitists have to insult regular Americans. That's a common trait in all of them. And its funny how the quality of our education has PLUMMETED due to the infiltration of Leftists and their control over it all for the last 30 years. Typical Liberal hypocrite.
Calling Americans uneducated is a phony fact propagated by the One-worlders. They need a reason to tell Americans they deserve to rule over us visa-vie the UN. If every other country is so smart why are their economies so pathetic compared to America's EVEN when our economy is in a downtrend? Why are all their economies hinged on our "stupid" economy? Why are all these countries dominated militarily by such an uneducated country? Why was the US the prominent western contender in the space race?
@iSAW7 america should sty behind its borders and a world would be a better place.
thank you America for Economy collapse, thank you that thousants of my peoples including myself and others lost jobs due to the ingnrant scums in US experimenting on monetary and economy etc.. Why are we hinged on your economy? because its US policy to enforce your way of life, democracy, economy... WE GOT FUCKED UP BY AMERICAN GLOBALIZATION. If you really are a PATRIOT, u should be ashamed of your country!
@iSAW7 typical american favorizing america and americans over anyother country or its citizens. tell me what makes u better and smarter at, than other ppl of another country does? it reminds me of hitler favorizing arian race over anyother.
ps: i am ashamed of my country for listening and being misled by America whose biggest goal is to grab money, make wars, and enforce its type of democracy. GREEED.
And while u are watching x facor, big brother and all other shyt that are screwing u up!
@d3t37 "typical american favorizing america and americans over anyother country or its citizens."
Always.
"it reminds me of hitler favorizing arian race over anyother."
It reminds me that Hitler was a strictly European production. You know, those Europeans who are better than us? The same Europeans who started WW1 and WW2, thanks.
"And while u are watching x facor, big brother and all other shyt that are screwing u up!"
Americans don't that crap, we make it for you morons to watch. LOL
Generalization does not apply. Great minds are in the US, as well as in any other country in the world, my friend. Nonetheless, it's an ineludible (inescapable) FACT that the school system for LARGE parts of the population lacks in quality. Not so much for the teachers but for the NEGLECT that parents show in their children's school performance. Period. As far as why other countries are hinged on 'your economy and are dominated by your military' shows some ignorance of your own.
Then why is it ok for you to generalize as to the intelligence of the American public?
"Nonetheless, it's an ineludible (inescapable) FACT that the school system for LARGE parts of the population lacks in quality."
Then why hasn't this "fact" helped Europe? Their economy is worse than ours in many places, but they are so smart? It's not the scores that matter, its what people do with their education and intelligence. Riots in France.......
I will give you a few tips nonetheless. Look into how the present financial structure was set-up with Bretton Woods. The exorbitant privilege of being "world reserve currency". To be able to borrow, in dollars, and easily manipulate them and print them at will. The US is a broken country, friend. The largest debtor nation. Thank the poor nations of the world that allow you a respite and keep your gov. going in exchange for TB's. But that is not going to last long. Don't be arrogant.
@mostro135 "The US is a broken country, friend. The largest debtor nation"
It may have the largest debt, but compared to it's GDP it is not as large as most European countries. You would think that your education would have shown you how to look at things in context. A baby elephant may be big, but it is not a big elephant. I hope that analogy helps you.
" Thank the poor nations of the world that allow you a respite and keep your gov. going"
Which "poor" nation would that be?An IMF recipient?
you seem to be incredible dense not to know that the US Gov. is a broken institution that survives from the recycled dollars of the poor nations of the world in exchange of TBonds. As well as resorting to printing money from the pure air , of course. Poor endebted nations are forced to hold dollars in their CB's which can be used to pay usurius debt or invest it in USdebt buying bonds. That is called exorbitant privilege.
@mostro135 "The US is a broken country, friend. The largest debtor nation"
It may have the largest debt, but compared to it's GDP it is not as large as most European countries. You would think that your education would have shown you how to look at things in context. A baby elephant may be big, but it is not a big elephant. I hope that analogy helps you.
" Thank the poor nations of the world that allow you a respite and keep your gov. going"
Which "poor" nation would that be?An IMF recipient?
@mostro135 "The US is a broken country, friend. The largest debtor nation"
It may have the largest debt, but compared to it's GDP it is not as large as most European countries. You would think that your education would have shown you how to look at things in context. A baby elephant may be big, but it is not a big elephant. I hope that analogy helps you.
" Thank the poor nations of the world that allow you a respite and keep your gov. going"
Which "poor" nation would that be?An IMF recipient?
@Tim1101 'Unlike yours since Obama's dick is in your mouth'...Gee, you REALLY love that 'dick in mouth' imagery, doncha? Says a lot about your childish ass. Enjoy the gay thoughts you so obviously love to stroke...err, STOKE...
@Tim1101 Love how you just re-use the expressions I use...too funny...unimaginative AND childish. Good for you! RE, the childish remarks...YOU opened that door, sport, not me. Dont piss on my leg and tell me its raining. But thanks for continuing to respond and prove the theology correct, that Americans are loudmouthed, low IQ idiots...keep up the good work, you make us proud.
@cecinid What expressions of yours am I supposedly reusing? Just because I point out the irony of you calling me childish while you yourself are acting immature? Not to mention how you generalize a nation of 300,000,000 because of one person on the internet, for all you know might not even be American. Are you sure you're not the one helping give Americans a bad name?
@BlackBeardDelight187 Ok, so you know lots of big words, but Evolution is a simple process and you haven't said a word about how you think Evolution works.
I'll help you. Creationists say that evoluionists say that we descended from monkeys. Discuss.
Well, considering that a person that WAS intelligent and highly literate, it impresses me that now he has the conspiracy theorist based ideas, specially on the 9/11!
So, yeah, he is a crackpot (he wasn't always a crackpot but he is now). And i don't accept the "senility" or the "old age" excuse for his ideas!
Formal education is one thing, but wisdom and awarness are totally-different. Many people with high education are supporting the evil system of the elite. We live in a great time now, the information time, we have the opportunity to find out much information that has never been previously availiable. When a person becomes aware of what is going on behind the scenes it like being re-born and its imposssible to go back. We live in a scientific dictatorship with invisible prison bars that we love.
@BabylonFading2012 Unfortunately you are right. yet, also, we live under the tyranny of the practicalists, and their conformist dogma, the materialists, the uber-rationalists. AND do the fanatical liberal-academes help, yes, and no it seems.(?) Are they just control freaks?
I love how Vidal condemns Bush for throwing money at banks while conveniently not mentioning that Obama does the SAME thing. He's just another blue guy blaming the red guys. The Republican and Democratic parties are basically the same. And they're smart enough to know that as long as they keep people distracted with stupid conflicts nobody will ever see them for what they are.
@MindControl7000 By Repug do you mean Republican? I'm not. You're still thinking in the two party mentality. Vidal was right about one thing. The two party system is a miserable trap, two groups that work together at the expense of the American people.
The real joke is that a guy who got rich writing his opinion in fiction (and thus has no actual skills) is calling the Americans (300 million people generalized into 1 group) uneducated. What is his idea of education? We should all be playwrights? These are the skills that build America and won the space race?
Liberal, conservative...makes no fucking difference. The bankers rule over all of us. Dumb fucking Americans! Obama isn't even our fucking President! He's a usurper, with CIA and banker help. He won't produce his fucking birth certificate, so according to our Constitution, he's not eligible to be President, and every bill he signs into law is INVALID and VOID. End of fucking story. FUCK YOU all my fellow ignorant fucking Americans!
@Indestructible229 Not anymore! hahaha! Because with the rise of the internet and alternative news, the people are going to rise up and clean house in the halls of our nasty, filthy, corrupt, and murdering government. You just watch! It's already happening!
I'll bet that Bill Clinton has at least 15 IQ points on Obama. This Obama-is-super-duper smart meme is, I think, conspicuously overstated by his white liberal allies.
I had no idea what a brilliant mimic Mr Vidal is, along with his other accomplishments. BTW I thoroughly enjoyed his two novels "Julian" and "Creation"
@crazyboyxx well, since i don't agree with a single one of your premises, there isn't really room to comment further. but what an absolute honor to have received a reply from a citizen of the us virgin islands. truly the basin of all political intellectualism and higher thought in general. we can only hope to achieve an 8th of your dizzying heights.
@johnbourbon You do realize it's conservative republicans that are trying to change history books in Texas that would grossly undereducated our youth right?
@johnbourbon "our "Lack Of Education" is a direct result of awful liberal policy."...Riiiight...because LIBS are the ones that slash education funding, schools, raise tuition, etc...oh, wait...
I wonder if he'd be happier were his sex life not so limited. Reportedly he would pick up boys, fuck them in the ass, and then pass them onto a friend who would administer a blowjob. Vidal, while openly gay, had no use for the penises of his sex partners. Interesting.
The intellectual difference between Bush and Obama is probably the biggest difference intellectually between any two presidents whose terms were side by side !
i´ve known this joke since i was 12. i had friends who had experience with us schooling system and they where shocked by how much easier it was there in the golden west. i´m now over 30, but it´s not so funny anymore; my country is becoming more and more like it. the american mediaparadigm + friedmanian fundamentalist economics. It´s simple and it´s universal now. a dystopia. i want good old soviet union back! just for stability; we´re having tyrants anyway.
Mr.Vidal at his best the Vice-president a " sadist trying to lock people up and water board them" and on Mr William F. Buckley "he was a gir"l and " made money inciting people s prejudices" classic lines. We are lucky to have him.
lol lol the modern god of cynicism/reality. I love this guy. Though, I know only of what I've watched in two YouTube videos!!!! eeek i should probably take a peek into one of his praised essays or novels and maybe act out a playwright?
I do not always agree with him but Vidal is a superlative essayist. I am trying to learn a few literary tricks from him although I know it is not a trick: talent, hardwork and love for words and knowledge have got him where he is.
Hes dead on balls correct! Americans are by & large very uneducated! They think nothing of the British or the Canadians (despite them all being of the same racial stock & bloodline) because they dont know the basics in anthropology! They dont know very much about geography beyond their shores! They dont care to acquire knowledge on sociology or the outside world! Except for Vidal,Chomsky, Zinn & Noami Klein! These are the true giants you need to listen to! But for years listened to Dan Quale!
@DAVEDSIG Well the irony of it is that you have a man who makes a living writing made-up stories telling other people that they lack education. Education usually means skills and knowledge. Writing stories that express your opinion and reading history books are not valuable skills. Americans don't need sociology. They need economics, math, physics, biology. They need to regain the lead in science & technology and learn something about the economic quagmire bad leaders have sunk them in.
@DAVEDSIG I greatly respect Great Britain and Canada but I don't see why closer descendancy should figure into that. I know a lot about geography, I have much knowledge of the going-ons of the outside world. Born and raised in America, I am proof that it's stupid to think we are all uneducated lazy morons.
@DAVEDSIG your comment didn't make any sense, how many inventions were created by Americans? Computer, Cars, Planes, Air Conditioning, Washing Machine, Dishwasher, Stoplight, USEFUL ELECTRICITY, iPods, Laptops, highways, skyscrapers, CAT Scan, CDs, there's so much, and if Americans are so stupid, how come America had the first man on the moon?
@Indestructible229 some of those were not american inventions and most of the others are from 1st generation europeans.
it's quite sad that you must parade on the achievements of past generations, that's right, it's not the 60's anymore... american public education performs below western world avarage (oecd)
@DAVEDSIG I was told a long time ago that for anyone to understand their own country, they have to see it from the outside.
I firmly believe that to be true. I never really understood Britain until I lived abroad for a number of years.
Most americans I've met have been really nice friendly people, but their lack of knowledge of their own country or the rest of the world is astonishing.
As most don't even have a passport, it is sad, but easy to see where their views come from.
@HonestMan395 That's a rather simplistic view of things. I remember as an undergrad hearing a visiting lecturer (German) compare American and European education. He would concur that our primary education is weak. However, he noted that it allows exploration and experimentation. While I agree, I think that has gone a bit too far. Having said that, I agreed with him in his opinion that ultimately, for those who continue to university things change drastically. (cont)
@HonestMan395 We have over 3000 universities that are the envy of the world. For many years I've read the findings of a joint Oxford Cambridge publication rating the top universities, and American Universities absolutely dominate. The list list included 18 American colleges out of the top 20. While Americans tend to slide (too much) through college prep., Europeans tend to slide through university. Japan is much the same. But I think ultimately the real test comes in results - (cont).
@HonestMan395 In case you were not aware, approximately 41% of Nobel prizes for scientific achievement have gone to Americans. These people almost without exception were educated in the United States, and frequently at public universities. Some of those, Cal Poly, Univ. of Michigan, Texas, Calif., (the list is rather massive), are among the finest research universities in the world. The Chinese continue to send their students here, not Europe.
@HonestMan395 I hold three college degrees including an advanced one. I agree with some, only some of what you're saying. I agree that we need to be more rigorous in primary and secondary education. But in reality, much of what goes on say in France prepares one for taking exams. It does not seem to translate to much more. Japan is much the same. You are presenting your ideas on an American invention (the internet), on an American site. What has come out of Europe? (cont)
@HonestMan395 Education in America is now undergoing a bit of a revolution. We recognize the issues you have brought up and are looking at ways to address them. We tend to produce the best, but too much mediocrity. In any case, Europe is becoming increasingly irrelevant intellectually. We go to Europe to see quaint old things and of course 'really nice friendly people' too. But not much more. I wouldn't be too smug. We recognize our flaws. You should recognize our strenghts.
@dsindc Hoho, the funniest statement I've read on youtube in a few weeks. Would you care to elaborate on how "Europe is becoming increasingly irrelevant intellectually"? And if you go there to see quaint old things then the best guess is that you don't know what they mean and signify.
@Pippin76 No, I'll let others elaborate for me. But I will offer some thoughts. I have the strangest impression that you're sitting on a worn Queen Anne chair, harrumphing at many things and all things Americans, and bearing a striking resemblence to Malcolm Muggeridge. I'll quote the Financial Times first. Note the authors comments regarding Europe's "feeble" response to the Balkan wars of the 90's. "Europeans look like IRRELEVANT whiners. They complaint about the American (cont) -
@Pippin76 cont from below) --- The next description of European irrelevance comes again from a European journal , the FT of 9/2010- "Europe heads for Japanese IRRELEVANCE". "The US has developed a theory about how to marry hard and soft power. Europe seems content with daydreams". Please read.
"The US aadministration’s foreign policy has drawn criticism – at home from Republicans arguing it is too soft on America’s enemies and abroad from Europeans complaining that President Barack Obama is inattentive towards his friends. But Mrs Clinton reminded us that Washington has been thinking hard about the world as it is becoming. The US has developed a theory about how to marry hard and soft power. Europe seems content with daydreams."
@dsindc what education revolution? when will i be hired as a docent? I didn't go to europe to quaint "old" things. I went to see old things from another world, another mind-world? Education is about, perhaps somewhat, seeing this more, if you like. Education should be about sharing ideas, centers of intellectual activity. If anything, the politicization of liberal centers in college lead to a problem. Please tell me there's a revolution in our education, it might give me hope: a true thinker.
@dsindc AND the politicization lead to a problem, of great dimensions. but politicization was always there. do i mean we should go beyond politics. No way. we're becoming more status quo if anything. Yet, these professors must re-evaluate what they believe is life itself even, in my view, if anything is to change. If education is a ladder to being acheiv-ed, wrong. If education is about the student, yes. if its about an empty post-modern pseudo-progressive mentality-no again.
What a man! We will see his like less and less in the future. BTW, I do love Joy Behar. Oh, and BTW, the US has some INCREDIBLY bright people (I'm from the UK) But yes; the US does seem to be producing some of the worst twats ever (re: Jackass and almost every vid on the internet) Wake up, America. Despite all apparently damning opinions of you....we STILL (and it's only JUST) look up to you, as a World Power. Tread carefully, America!
@bigkitten so true.. fascinating how polarizing the views on the U.S. citizenry can be. In truth, the states produce great scholars, artists and scientists in all fields which lead said fields. To paint the US with one brush will never paint a picture that approaches reality. It is also true that it is the home of fast food and fast ideas in individually packed morsels predigested for consumption, and that some fools get on camera vomiting this same mess up, and frankly it's that which stinks.
obama gave the bankers much more than bush;his cabinet is wall streeters. he has escalated the war. mandates we must buy insurance or be fined.he makes bush look like F.D.R.
Well said, mindblower! Of course, the Obama crowd like to pretend that there's some difference between the Dems and the GOP. That's just a political shell game. Both "parties" tax, spend (mostly on wars of aggression), lie through their teeth, and tell you what you are allowed to say and think. Choose between Police State Party A or Police State Party B... Of course, there's another option, but it requires a dedication to Liberty.
Gore Vidal is legendary
freejazzandcheese1 6 days ago
Vidal's right. Barack Obama is the most intelligent president these 57 United States have ever seen!
HardforJesus 1 week ago
$30 menopausal, flushed, hormone crazed hooker interviewing a gay senile 2nd rate intellectual
451mnu 2 weeks ago
United States of Duh-merica ^^
lanceawatt 2 weeks ago
What kind of country has shown the world how to completely dumb down their populace and create ultimate cronyism. USA, USA, USA, USA
rollsthepaul 1 month ago
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The impoverished people of the world have less as they are wanting, thus they are: IMPOVERISHED. Having less is a cop-out. America's foundering middle class would live in large piles of hollowed out, hardened elephant shit to “save” mother Earth if the corporate media instructed them to.
CelestialEmbodiment 2 months ago
College would only have cost him money. College for such people who already know what they want to do and how to do it is superfluous. But he's still senile. Shame, really.
NixonisLord 2 months ago
Vidal decries the lack of education in Americans, yet never went to college.
bscottb8 2 months ago
@bscottb8 doesn't that actually make his point?
ihroch 2 months ago
@ihroch Lol -- touché.
bscottb8 2 months ago
The day this man and Noam Chomsky die I'm moving to Mars.
joavim 2 months ago
@joavim They've already become irrelevant due to their cowardice on fighting Fascist Islam. Hitch>Chomsky/Vidal.
MattSingh1 1 month ago
Gore Vidal is from a dying generation of true intellectual geniuses
brandon1ucas 3 months ago
great interview!
jorgeberlin 3 months ago
What a pompous asshole...
de1nonly 3 months ago
Vidal's final act - assassin!
Tsnore 3 months ago
hahaha, his bush impression is spot on lol
UtopiaMinor666 4 months ago 2
Love this video! American can be proud of this guy and proud of President Obama.
The health care you have is terrible, way too right wing, which is going to be the downfall of the country because it is polarizing your communities.
margiedemello 4 months ago
@margiedemello Proud of Obama? Let's be honest, Obama has been a disappointment. He caved in to the republicans over and over and over, giving them everything they could have hoped for. He also considers himself seperate from progressives. He's not for change, he's a puppet, just like his predecessor.
Lleanlleawrg 4 months ago
Class.
fatcat2939 4 months ago
haha Vidal's the best
scarbadk 4 months ago
@vivamarisa It was developed at CERN in Switzerland by Tim Berners-Lee, so I suppose you could say it was invented by a Brit using Swiss technology.
Dendiol 5 months ago
people mad watching this video are some of those dumb ass americans....
getyoasshome 5 months ago
I love that on a video about US education being poor, the title is for some reason caps on every single word...I kid.
IR17171717 5 months ago
I like Vidal better when he dresses like Fred from Scooby Doo.
jimbrown257 5 months ago
Sorry Vidal, but Obama should sorely dissapoint you with his continued forays into Afghanistan and now Libya.
efrem1 5 months ago
Gore does not mince his words and fortunate at that. Refreshing as ever.
Magenta408 6 months ago
@Magenta408 Gore Vidal is a professional jerk. He's an unrepentant weasel, and is admired by people who strive to his ideological depths.
DrCruel 4 months ago
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What a complete joke.
jiveturkeyusa 6 months ago
When you get that old you don't have to revere much. What freedom.
MehdiManavi 7 months ago
Thats because our educational system is bogged down trying to deal with malcontents and gangs. Heaven forbid we should offend any of these hoodlums. The lack of personal responsibility that other countries hold, we have no concept of. Our family unit disappeared with the Ward and June Cleaver. Single parents are sidetracked trying to deal with living on minimal income, work multiple jobs and not be at home to raise their kids. Its a wonderful culture we have here.
Nelvin78 7 months ago
Yeah, too smart for the country? It's called affirmative action, you withered old haggish cunt!
djs259 7 months ago
@djs259 Yes.. he got in because of his skin color and he did well because he's smart. Your comment only demonstrates that affirmative action is necessary. "White people" are too afraid and non-trusting because they have treated all other races as "less-than" for thousands of years and are weary of payback and by "white people" I'm referring to people like you.
jsarratt1 5 months ago
10:25 - Edward R Murrow, you moron... Christ.
DaedalusReturned 8 months ago
"lack of education" = not socialist slaves
OK!
thedavidwilson 8 months ago
@thedavidwilson What is socialism?
kotkee 8 months ago
@kotkee Any government or political philosophy that seeks to socially engineer society. Examples: Communism, National Socialism (Nazism), Fascism, Progressivism, etc. It is the opposite of distributed, small government that maximizes individual liberty on which the USA was founded upon.
thedavidwilson 8 months ago
@thedavidwilson 1.A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. I think you got told the wrong definition.
kotkee 8 months ago
@kotkee I think you are paroting something that you read on the internet rather than thinking for yourself. You will make a great dupe.
thedavidwilson 8 months ago
And what did those fragmented local governments consisting of a sheriff, a business bigwig and his dog preside over? Mostly wage slaves and religious ignoramuses. Both socialism and anarchism gained popularity in the US during the 19th century because the US very quickly became what it castigated Europe for being: a little gang of bosses presiding over wage slaves. It has always ebbed and flowed because the public has been periodically bought off with the trinkets of mass production.
nakedmambo 5 months ago
@thedavidwilson no lack of education means majority of high school graduates can't point out England on a map or know who wrote the declaration of independence, lack of education means juniors and seniors can't do basic math, wind up graduating (no child left behind!! wahoo!!!) wind up working at wal mart or fast food chains and hope for the best...
nappyweed111 8 months ago in playlist American collapse
@nappyweed111 The only solution is greater involvement by the federal government into education. More taxes and funding of public education will fix things!
thedavidwilson 8 months ago
@thedavidwilson no no you're absolutely right, let us continue our current route and keep cutting teacher salaries and keep cutting funding for schools (like they just did in mys tate) because hey the vast majority of those graduates who can't do basic algebra and geometry, well hey it'll work itself out....oh I know let's do vouchers, that will work!!! LOL
nappyweed111 8 months ago
Why is this prostitute interviewing a pornographer?
thedavidwilson 8 months ago
Gore Vidal - a man of great integrity and intelligence, with a sense of humour to die for. We in England salute you!
tennantesque 9 months ago
Taking Gore Vidal seriously is the joke.
NoGoodBoyo1000 9 months ago
Great man...
They didn't give the money to the rich they gave it to the wealthy.
underyourskindvd 9 months ago
A genius, plainly and distinctly. There will never be another like him
ScrapNfight 9 months ago
gettin old he is
mrbloodsport 10 months ago
There's nothing more ridiculous than two Liberals agreeing with each other.
The911Shaman 10 months ago
"America has the worst education in the first world" so ,what the fuck does that mean only that the U.S education system is less fucked up than the shitty european systems. All education systems are there to give you enough knowledge to function in a job and keep the corporate machine running smoothly, but keeps you dumb enough not to see through the charade that is Government. By the way, I am European not a Texan Neo-Con.
joeycusack80 11 months ago
"That was a Platonic relationship."
Plato had a wife and mistress and a boy.
rscmrcmd 11 months ago
I'm sorry, but were we supposed to gain something of any intrinsic, redeeming value from this interview? All I learned is that he's quasi-gay and that the world thinks Americans are stupid. Maybe that's all we were supposed to get from just such an interview and from just such a host, don't know.
BloodTar 11 months ago
@BloodTar Well, you certainly proved his point about the education system here in America. Only a dummy would miss the entire point.
MrTruthAddict 10 months ago
@BloodTar I agree, all I'm getting from this interview is the obvious opinions of a "tell it like it is" elderly man. The interviewer isn't exactly challenging...
Kuwa6ara 7 months ago
Gore's first mistake was to say that he likes Obama and hilary. Funny guy though. Take's some kinda balls to say on tv he'd go to DC and do some killing.
slobknoblin 1 year ago
I just had to LMFAO LMFAO Multiple times after watching that Imbecile Bush spew out of his pie hole the words, "We are going to Launch a Crusade", LMFAO! Americans sure are stupid in large numbers!
deeppurple28 1 year ago
As much as I love Gore Vidal, and on the whole agree with him, he was born into a rich family, and was a privileged child. He was "blessed" (for lack of a better term - non religious) with an excellent educated. Poorer people can't pay for that.
DrFlaxWebFLOO 1 year ago
@DrFlaxWebFLOO I agree with your assessment, with a caveat. There are plenty of others born to rich families, living privileged childhoods, and afforded excellent educations. However, many are not so quick to speak out against the established system the way that Vidal did. For those others, the only thing time they speak up is when their quarterly dividend cheques are late.
AmandaBeeRekendwith 1 year ago
This from the Christian Science Monitor "But as a whole, European universities have stagnated by almost every measure- from funding to achievements in research to graduation rates". I would also note the article's comments from Jiao Tong Univ. in Shanghai ranking the 20 top international universities. 17 were American, and 2, TWO were European. Also note that 21% of Europeans complete higher education, while 38% of Americans do. (cont).
dsindc 1 year ago
@dsindc The Internet is actually a British invention, but I'm not surprised an arrogant American is claiming ownership.
Dendiol 1 year ago
Funny calling someone who such a strong supporter of the republic a King.
andlookmore 1 year ago
so many fragile, little egos.
walkingonaseaofglass 1 year ago
Oh the irony of the statement "Gore is King."
andlookmore 1 year ago
@andlookmore Right, Gore is queen seems more appropriate.
He is from a different time so he can accurately see where and when this country took a turn to the dark side.
cetnikz 1 year ago
He is absolutly right! but what he doesn't know is that Obama and Hilary are both a fucking joke. Puppets that are controled by the same puppet masters! FUCK MONSANTO AND FUCK THE OBAMA REGIME!
nothingtolose3234 1 year ago
Of course, all Elitists have to insult regular Americans. That's a common trait in all of them. And its funny how the quality of our education has PLUMMETED due to the infiltration of Leftists and their control over it all for the last 30 years. Typical Liberal hypocrite.
NoGuff 1 year ago
@NoGuff Yup, it is the elitist responsible for the stupidity of regular americans
ravishingravi 1 year ago
it doesn't take a genius to realise the US education is a joke. this video doesn't even give us a genius or an intelligent man
redryan20000 1 year ago
Calling Americans uneducated is a phony fact propagated by the One-worlders. They need a reason to tell Americans they deserve to rule over us visa-vie the UN. If every other country is so smart why are their economies so pathetic compared to America's EVEN when our economy is in a downtrend? Why are all their economies hinged on our "stupid" economy? Why are all these countries dominated militarily by such an uneducated country? Why was the US the prominent western contender in the space race?
iSAW7 1 year ago
@iSAW7 america should sty behind its borders and a world would be a better place.
thank you America for Economy collapse, thank you that thousants of my peoples including myself and others lost jobs due to the ingnrant scums in US experimenting on monetary and economy etc.. Why are we hinged on your economy? because its US policy to enforce your way of life, democracy, economy... WE GOT FUCKED UP BY AMERICAN GLOBALIZATION. If you really are a PATRIOT, u should be ashamed of your country!
d3t37 1 year ago
@d3t37 "america should sty behind its borders"
I agree. The rest of world is pathetic and worthless, let them cannibalize each other without our interference.
"thank you America for Economy collapse, thank you"
Don't blame us because your leaders and population are pathetic and can not think for themselves.
"If you really are a PATRIOT, u should be ashamed of your country!"
I am ashamed of the human race outside of America's borders. You are a truly pathetic display.
iSAW7 1 year ago
@iSAW7 typical american favorizing america and americans over anyother country or its citizens. tell me what makes u better and smarter at, than other ppl of another country does? it reminds me of hitler favorizing arian race over anyother.
ps: i am ashamed of my country for listening and being misled by America whose biggest goal is to grab money, make wars, and enforce its type of democracy. GREEED.
And while u are watching x facor, big brother and all other shyt that are screwing u up!
d3t37 1 year ago
@d3t37 "typical american favorizing america and americans over anyother country or its citizens."
Always.
"it reminds me of hitler favorizing arian race over anyother."
It reminds me that Hitler was a strictly European production. You know, those Europeans who are better than us? The same Europeans who started WW1 and WW2, thanks.
"And while u are watching x facor, big brother and all other shyt that are screwing u up!"
Americans don't that crap, we make it for you morons to watch. LOL
iSAW7 1 year ago
@iSAW7
Generalization does not apply. Great minds are in the US, as well as in any other country in the world, my friend. Nonetheless, it's an ineludible (inescapable) FACT that the school system for LARGE parts of the population lacks in quality. Not so much for the teachers but for the NEGLECT that parents show in their children's school performance. Period. As far as why other countries are hinged on 'your economy and are dominated by your military' shows some ignorance of your own.
mostro135 1 year ago
@mostro135 "Generalization does not apply"
Then why is it ok for you to generalize as to the intelligence of the American public?
"Nonetheless, it's an ineludible (inescapable) FACT that the school system for LARGE parts of the population lacks in quality."
Then why hasn't this "fact" helped Europe? Their economy is worse than ours in many places, but they are so smart? It's not the scores that matter, its what people do with their education and intelligence. Riots in France.......
iSAW7 1 year ago
@iSAW7
I will give you a few tips nonetheless. Look into how the present financial structure was set-up with Bretton Woods. The exorbitant privilege of being "world reserve currency". To be able to borrow, in dollars, and easily manipulate them and print them at will. The US is a broken country, friend. The largest debtor nation. Thank the poor nations of the world that allow you a respite and keep your gov. going in exchange for TB's. But that is not going to last long. Don't be arrogant.
mostro135 1 year ago
@mostro135 "The US is a broken country, friend. The largest debtor nation"
It may have the largest debt, but compared to it's GDP it is not as large as most European countries. You would think that your education would have shown you how to look at things in context. A baby elephant may be big, but it is not a big elephant. I hope that analogy helps you.
" Thank the poor nations of the world that allow you a respite and keep your gov. going"
Which "poor" nation would that be?An IMF recipient?
iSAW7 1 year ago
@iSAW7
you seem to be incredible dense not to know that the US Gov. is a broken institution that survives from the recycled dollars of the poor nations of the world in exchange of TBonds. As well as resorting to printing money from the pure air , of course. Poor endebted nations are forced to hold dollars in their CB's which can be used to pay usurius debt or invest it in USdebt buying bonds. That is called exorbitant privilege.
Grab a book.
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@mostro135 "The US is a broken country, friend. The largest debtor nation"
It may have the largest debt, but compared to it's GDP it is not as large as most European countries. You would think that your education would have shown you how to look at things in context. A baby elephant may be big, but it is not a big elephant. I hope that analogy helps you.
" Thank the poor nations of the world that allow you a respite and keep your gov. going"
Which "poor" nation would that be?An IMF recipient?
iSAW7 1 year ago
@mostro135 "The US is a broken country, friend. The largest debtor nation"
It may have the largest debt, but compared to it's GDP it is not as large as most European countries. You would think that your education would have shown you how to look at things in context. A baby elephant may be big, but it is not a big elephant. I hope that analogy helps you.
" Thank the poor nations of the world that allow you a respite and keep your gov. going"
Which "poor" nation would that be?An IMF recipient?
iSAW7 1 year ago
Someone once said that America isn't a democracy.
I agree. It's a plutocracy.
Government of the wealthy, by the wealthy, for the wealthy.
HonestMan395 1 year ago
Gore Vidal's lost his condescending mind...
Commando303X 1 year ago
Mush's reign would have been so much more unbearable without Gore Vidal's interviews and pamphlets.
Tippersnore 1 year ago
God I hope Obama gets himself checked considering how much these people suck his dick.
Tim1101 1 year ago
@Tim1101 Yes, because if we like Obama, we are sucking his dick...it couldnt just be that we LIKE HIM and RESPECT HIM, right?
Oh, thanks for proving Vidal right RE the stupid Americans bit.
cecinid 1 year ago
@cecinid I think you already did that by liking and respecting Obama.
Tim1101 1 year ago
@Tim1101 "I think you already did that by liking and respecting Obama."
Wow, you just keep on provin' his point by not knowing when to shut your stupid, hateful mouth...thanks for that!
cecinid 1 year ago
@cecinid First of all, I'm not talking. I'm typing, so my mouth is shut. Unlike yours since Obama's dick is in your mouth.
Tim1101 1 year ago
@Tim1101 'Unlike yours since Obama's dick is in your mouth'...Gee, you REALLY love that 'dick in mouth' imagery, doncha? Says a lot about your childish ass. Enjoy the gay thoughts you so obviously love to stroke...err, STOKE...
cecinid 1 year ago
@cecinid You call me childish and then make that "stroke" comment? Pot meet kettle.
Tim1101 1 year ago
@Tim1101 Love how you just re-use the expressions I use...too funny...unimaginative AND childish. Good for you! RE, the childish remarks...YOU opened that door, sport, not me. Dont piss on my leg and tell me its raining. But thanks for continuing to respond and prove the theology correct, that Americans are loudmouthed, low IQ idiots...keep up the good work, you make us proud.
cecinid 1 year ago
@cecinid What expressions of yours am I supposedly reusing? Just because I point out the irony of you calling me childish while you yourself are acting immature? Not to mention how you generalize a nation of 300,000,000 because of one person on the internet, for all you know might not even be American. Are you sure you're not the one helping give Americans a bad name?
Tim1101 1 year ago
@Tim1101 I'm sure.
cecinid 1 year ago
He knows too much to be on the mainstream media. His opinions are out of the box.
darkmagus64 1 year ago
A lot of americans are like Balkans people in europe, obnoxiously patriotic for no reason at all.
EarlsCourt75ProShot 1 year ago
@EarlsCourt75ProShot You're right. There's nothing at all Americans could be proud of.
Tim1101 1 year ago
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And to make matters worse, "evilution" is a myth.
BlackBeardDelight187 1 year ago
@BlackBeardDelight187 I bet you don't even know what evolution is.
Come on, tell us all what you think evoluion is. Give us all a laugh.
HonestMan395 1 year ago
@HonestMan395 Well theres pseudogenes, Atavisms, Fossils, Homology, ERV's, Embryology, Vestigial organs, behaviors, etc.. Phylogenetic Trees, Cytochrome C, Human Chromosome 2 - Fusion, Geographical Distribution of Species ect ect
BlackBeardDelight187 1 year ago
@BlackBeardDelight187 Ok, so you know lots of big words, but Evolution is a simple process and you haven't said a word about how you think Evolution works.
I'll help you. Creationists say that evoluionists say that we descended from monkeys. Discuss.
HonestMan395 1 year ago
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@HonestMan395 " Evolution is a simple process"- Try explaining that to the believers. Dont waste your time on me. Im good.
" you haven't said a word about how you think Evolution works."- Science doesnt care what I think.
BlackBeardDelight187 1 year ago
Gore is King!
starstuff 1 year ago 16
As much as i admire his literary techniques and style, I agree with Christopher Hitchens - he is a crackpot!
luarionte 1 year ago
@luarionte I love Christopher Hitchens but i disagree with the comment (that Gore Vidal is a crackpot) we need his honesty in a country such as this.
Lazybate 1 year ago
@Lazybate
Well, considering that a person that WAS intelligent and highly literate, it impresses me that now he has the conspiracy theorist based ideas, specially on the 9/11!
So, yeah, he is a crackpot (he wasn't always a crackpot but he is now). And i don't accept the "senility" or the "old age" excuse for his ideas!
luarionte 1 year ago
an all-encompassing genius
MrJimbo622 1 year ago 12
Formal education is one thing, but wisdom and awarness are totally-different. Many people with high education are supporting the evil system of the elite. We live in a great time now, the information time, we have the opportunity to find out much information that has never been previously availiable. When a person becomes aware of what is going on behind the scenes it like being re-born and its imposssible to go back. We live in a scientific dictatorship with invisible prison bars that we love.
BabylonFading2012 1 year ago
@BabylonFading2012 Unfortunately you are right. yet, also, we live under the tyranny of the practicalists, and their conformist dogma, the materialists, the uber-rationalists. AND do the fanatical liberal-academes help, yes, and no it seems.(?) Are they just control freaks?
ippolytos1 1 year ago
Sometimes I grow weary of hearing Gore do his "wartime president" caricature of Bush, true though it may be.
inademv 1 year ago
I love how Vidal condemns Bush for throwing money at banks while conveniently not mentioning that Obama does the SAME thing. He's just another blue guy blaming the red guys. The Republican and Democratic parties are basically the same. And they're smart enough to know that as long as they keep people distracted with stupid conflicts nobody will ever see them for what they are.
jhop9898 1 year ago
@jhop9898 if you weren't a Repug, you would realize Gore was saying Obama's healthcare plan was a gift to the rich.
MindControl7000 1 year ago
@MindControl7000 By Repug do you mean Republican? I'm not. You're still thinking in the two party mentality. Vidal was right about one thing. The two party system is a miserable trap, two groups that work together at the expense of the American people.
jhop9898 1 year ago
Nice phoney British accent, Gore.
CARDUELIS999 1 year ago
@CARDUELIS999 I didn't notice any british accent, as you were Repug. Go on now crying on your pillow.
MindControl7000 1 year ago
i'm american and i'm smart that's all i gotta say.................oh i forgot i'm not white lol!!!
SpyBreak101 1 year ago
barry soetoro the educated idiot.....
hefeltbad 1 year ago
The real joke is that a guy who got rich writing his opinion in fiction (and thus has no actual skills) is calling the Americans (300 million people generalized into 1 group) uneducated. What is his idea of education? We should all be playwrights? These are the skills that build America and won the space race?
jhop9898 1 year ago
I too never realized what a great GW Bush impression that Vidal can do! THANKS for posting this
Dionysos37 1 year ago
Liberal, conservative...makes no fucking difference. The bankers rule over all of us. Dumb fucking Americans! Obama isn't even our fucking President! He's a usurper, with CIA and banker help. He won't produce his fucking birth certificate, so according to our Constitution, he's not eligible to be President, and every bill he signs into law is INVALID and VOID. End of fucking story. FUCK YOU all my fellow ignorant fucking Americans!
2242bzo 1 year ago 3
@2242bzo okay, what you said was true, but that is what the government does, not general American public. Remember:
1. The war on terrorism was rarely supported
2. Americans can't vote to go to war
3. Americans didn't vote for Hiroshima or Nagasaki
We have no involvement in wars, we can't choose them, the government chooses all of that.
Indestructible229 1 year ago
@Indestructible229 Not anymore! hahaha! Because with the rise of the internet and alternative news, the people are going to rise up and clean house in the halls of our nasty, filthy, corrupt, and murdering government. You just watch! It's already happening!
2242bzo 1 year ago
I'll bet that Bill Clinton has at least 15 IQ points on Obama. This Obama-is-super-duper smart meme is, I think, conspicuously overstated by his white liberal allies.
seans10 1 year ago
I had no idea what a brilliant mimic Mr Vidal is, along with his other accomplishments. BTW I thoroughly enjoyed his two novels "Julian" and "Creation"
Strefanash 1 year ago
@crazyboyxx well, since i don't agree with a single one of your premises, there isn't really room to comment further. but what an absolute honor to have received a reply from a citizen of the us virgin islands. truly the basin of all political intellectualism and higher thought in general. we can only hope to achieve an 8th of your dizzying heights.
until then, go make me a daiquiri and stfu.
johnbourbon 1 year ago
our "Lack Of Education" is a direct result of awful liberal policy.
johnbourbon 1 year ago
@johnbourbon You do realize it's conservative republicans that are trying to change history books in Texas that would grossly undereducated our youth right?
EssentialRationality 1 year ago
@EssentialRationality those conservatives seek to change the books that liberals use in an attempt to change history.
get it?
johnbourbon 1 year ago
@johnbourbon Project much?
Fuctmentality 1 year ago
@johnbourbon How so? Which ones?
1844Freddy 1 year ago
@1844Freddy be more specific with your question. i'm not sure what you're asking about.
johnbourbon 1 year ago
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@johnbourbon "our "Lack Of Education" is a direct result of awful liberal policy."...Riiiight...because LIBS are the ones that slash education funding, schools, raise tuition, etc...oh, wait...
cecinid 1 year ago
I wonder if he'd be happier were his sex life not so limited. Reportedly he would pick up boys, fuck them in the ass, and then pass them onto a friend who would administer a blowjob. Vidal, while openly gay, had no use for the penises of his sex partners. Interesting.
bc9021010001 1 year ago
The intellectual difference between Bush and Obama is probably the biggest difference intellectually between any two presidents whose terms were side by side !
Claronium780 1 year ago
"of course I do..." - AWESOME
Craigipedia 1 year ago
"To cleanse the Republic!" Ye gods, he even sounds like Palpatine when saying that.
FlakMeister 1 year ago
@FlakMeister I feel like he was trying to sound ironic
Craigipedia 1 year ago
This guy is unbelievably intimidating. I would drop one nasty turd in my pants if I was forced to shake his hand.
DermochelysCoriacea 1 year ago
Notice that we mock the presidents of USA too
tilsetningsstoff 1 year ago
i love gore vidal. such a brilliant writer and social commentator.
thecourthansen 1 year ago 3
i´ve known this joke since i was 12. i had friends who had experience with us schooling system and they where shocked by how much easier it was there in the golden west. i´m now over 30, but it´s not so funny anymore; my country is becoming more and more like it. the american mediaparadigm + friedmanian fundamentalist economics. It´s simple and it´s universal now. a dystopia. i want good old soviet union back! just for stability; we´re having tyrants anyway.
vulvatronic 1 year ago
Mr.Vidal at his best the Vice-president a " sadist trying to lock people up and water board them" and on Mr William F. Buckley "he was a gir"l and " made money inciting people s prejudices" classic lines. We are lucky to have him.
TJS2154 1 year ago
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Wow, he's so old. Clearly senile.
amartin7889 1 year ago
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gore vidal could b a plant...
FOBmuzungu 1 year ago
love joy!!!!
love u gore!
thx for havin this icon on ur show joy.
ur the best part of that damn view show!
fidobarks 1 year ago
lol lol the modern god of cynicism/reality. I love this guy. Though, I know only of what I've watched in two YouTube videos!!!! eeek i should probably take a peek into one of his praised essays or novels and maybe act out a playwright?
MDubBeezy 2 years ago 2
I do not always agree with him but Vidal is a superlative essayist. I am trying to learn a few literary tricks from him although I know it is not a trick: talent, hardwork and love for words and knowledge have got him where he is.
TheKlimes86 2 years ago 4
Hes dead on balls correct! Americans are by & large very uneducated! They think nothing of the British or the Canadians (despite them all being of the same racial stock & bloodline) because they dont know the basics in anthropology! They dont know very much about geography beyond their shores! They dont care to acquire knowledge on sociology or the outside world! Except for Vidal,Chomsky, Zinn & Noami Klein! These are the true giants you need to listen to! But for years listened to Dan Quale!
DAVEDSIG 2 years ago 21
@DAVEDSIG goe fuk yurcelf, wear muctch ejucated morre az yu
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CARDUELIS999 1 year ago
@DAVEDSIG Well the irony of it is that you have a man who makes a living writing made-up stories telling other people that they lack education. Education usually means skills and knowledge. Writing stories that express your opinion and reading history books are not valuable skills. Americans don't need sociology. They need economics, math, physics, biology. They need to regain the lead in science & technology and learn something about the economic quagmire bad leaders have sunk them in.
jhop9898 1 year ago
@DAVEDSIG I greatly respect Great Britain and Canada but I don't see why closer descendancy should figure into that. I know a lot about geography, I have much knowledge of the going-ons of the outside world. Born and raised in America, I am proof that it's stupid to think we are all uneducated lazy morons.
thekkl 1 year ago
@DAVEDSIG your comment didn't make any sense, how many inventions were created by Americans? Computer, Cars, Planes, Air Conditioning, Washing Machine, Dishwasher, Stoplight, USEFUL ELECTRICITY, iPods, Laptops, highways, skyscrapers, CAT Scan, CDs, there's so much, and if Americans are so stupid, how come America had the first man on the moon?
Indestructible229 1 year ago
@Indestructible229 some of those were not american inventions and most of the others are from 1st generation europeans.
it's quite sad that you must parade on the achievements of past generations, that's right, it's not the 60's anymore... american public education performs below western world avarage (oecd)
Darusdei 1 year ago
@DAVEDSIG, they, they, they, they, you're such an over-generalizing ignorant hypocrite
Conail23 1 year ago
@DAVEDSIG To be fair we Canadians don't listen to people from the US!
BIGSBYTREM 1 year ago
@DAVEDSIG Thanks for the compliment. Talk about feeling the love. Lol!
starstuff 1 year ago
@DAVEDSIG I was told a long time ago that for anyone to understand their own country, they have to see it from the outside.
I firmly believe that to be true. I never really understood Britain until I lived abroad for a number of years.
Most americans I've met have been really nice friendly people, but their lack of knowledge of their own country or the rest of the world is astonishing.
As most don't even have a passport, it is sad, but easy to see where their views come from.
HonestMan395 1 year ago
@HonestMan395 That's a rather simplistic view of things. I remember as an undergrad hearing a visiting lecturer (German) compare American and European education. He would concur that our primary education is weak. However, he noted that it allows exploration and experimentation. While I agree, I think that has gone a bit too far. Having said that, I agreed with him in his opinion that ultimately, for those who continue to university things change drastically. (cont)
dsindc 1 year ago
@HonestMan395 We have over 3000 universities that are the envy of the world. For many years I've read the findings of a joint Oxford Cambridge publication rating the top universities, and American Universities absolutely dominate. The list list included 18 American colleges out of the top 20. While Americans tend to slide (too much) through college prep., Europeans tend to slide through university. Japan is much the same. But I think ultimately the real test comes in results - (cont).
dsindc 1 year ago
@HonestMan395 In case you were not aware, approximately 41% of Nobel prizes for scientific achievement have gone to Americans. These people almost without exception were educated in the United States, and frequently at public universities. Some of those, Cal Poly, Univ. of Michigan, Texas, Calif., (the list is rather massive), are among the finest research universities in the world. The Chinese continue to send their students here, not Europe.
dsindc 1 year ago
@HonestMan395 I hold three college degrees including an advanced one. I agree with some, only some of what you're saying. I agree that we need to be more rigorous in primary and secondary education. But in reality, much of what goes on say in France prepares one for taking exams. It does not seem to translate to much more. Japan is much the same. You are presenting your ideas on an American invention (the internet), on an American site. What has come out of Europe? (cont)
dsindc 1 year ago
@HonestMan395 Education in America is now undergoing a bit of a revolution. We recognize the issues you have brought up and are looking at ways to address them. We tend to produce the best, but too much mediocrity. In any case, Europe is becoming increasingly irrelevant intellectually. We go to Europe to see quaint old things and of course 'really nice friendly people' too. But not much more. I wouldn't be too smug. We recognize our flaws. You should recognize our strenghts.
dsindc 1 year ago
@dsindc Hoho, the funniest statement I've read on youtube in a few weeks. Would you care to elaborate on how "Europe is becoming increasingly irrelevant intellectually"? And if you go there to see quaint old things then the best guess is that you don't know what they mean and signify.
Pippin76 1 year ago
@Pippin76 No, I'll let others elaborate for me. But I will offer some thoughts. I have the strangest impression that you're sitting on a worn Queen Anne chair, harrumphing at many things and all things Americans, and bearing a striking resemblence to Malcolm Muggeridge. I'll quote the Financial Times first. Note the authors comments regarding Europe's "feeble" response to the Balkan wars of the 90's. "Europeans look like IRRELEVANT whiners. They complaint about the American (cont) -
dsindc 1 year ago
@Pippin76 cont from below) --- The next description of European irrelevance comes again from a European journal , the FT of 9/2010- "Europe heads for Japanese IRRELEVANCE". "The US has developed a theory about how to marry hard and soft power. Europe seems content with daydreams". Please read.
dsindc 1 year ago
@Pippin76
"The US aadministration’s foreign policy has drawn criticism – at home from Republicans arguing it is too soft on America’s enemies and abroad from Europeans complaining that President Barack Obama is inattentive towards his friends. But Mrs Clinton reminded us that Washington has been thinking hard about the world as it is becoming. The US has developed a theory about how to marry hard and soft power. Europe seems content with daydreams."
philip.stephens@ft.com
dsindc 1 year ago
@dsindc what education revolution? when will i be hired as a docent? I didn't go to europe to quaint "old" things. I went to see old things from another world, another mind-world? Education is about, perhaps somewhat, seeing this more, if you like. Education should be about sharing ideas, centers of intellectual activity. If anything, the politicization of liberal centers in college lead to a problem. Please tell me there's a revolution in our education, it might give me hope: a true thinker.
ippolytos1 1 year ago
@dsindc AND the politicization lead to a problem, of great dimensions. but politicization was always there. do i mean we should go beyond politics. No way. we're becoming more status quo if anything. Yet, these professors must re-evaluate what they believe is life itself even, in my view, if anything is to change. If education is a ladder to being acheiv-ed, wrong. If education is about the student, yes. if its about an empty post-modern pseudo-progressive mentality-no again.
ippolytos1 1 year ago
What a man! We will see his like less and less in the future. BTW, I do love Joy Behar. Oh, and BTW, the US has some INCREDIBLY bright people (I'm from the UK) But yes; the US does seem to be producing some of the worst twats ever (re: Jackass and almost every vid on the internet) Wake up, America. Despite all apparently damning opinions of you....we STILL (and it's only JUST) look up to you, as a World Power. Tread carefully, America!
bigkitten 2 years ago 7
@bigkitten so true.. fascinating how polarizing the views on the U.S. citizenry can be. In truth, the states produce great scholars, artists and scientists in all fields which lead said fields. To paint the US with one brush will never paint a picture that approaches reality. It is also true that it is the home of fast food and fast ideas in individually packed morsels predigested for consumption, and that some fools get on camera vomiting this same mess up, and frankly it's that which stinks.
redblugreenjello 1 year ago
obama gave the bankers much more than bush;his cabinet is wall streeters. he has escalated the war. mandates we must buy insurance or be fined.he makes bush look like F.D.R.
mindblower6 2 years ago
Well said, mindblower! Of course, the Obama crowd like to pretend that there's some difference between the Dems and the GOP. That's just a political shell game. Both "parties" tax, spend (mostly on wars of aggression), lie through their teeth, and tell you what you are allowed to say and think. Choose between Police State Party A or Police State Party B... Of course, there's another option, but it requires a dedication to Liberty.
KaptKan1 2 years ago