Aikido, Keri-waza (defense vs kicks) presentation.

[rokkaghoul]

i think that other people who obiously have not practiced Aikido, and are so used to "block" (be ther for the hit) and hit and be punched, , can not realize that in Aikido you do not block, you deflect your oponents strengt and energy, you circle and flow... thats why it seems to be coreographed, at first i thought the same... but the pain in my joints told me that was real and effective

[weloveanimetoo]

this is a very entertaining and interesting video for those just begining in aikido like my self. i had to watch the move u did at 1:40 a couple of times, it was awsome and i was trying to see how u did it....

[aikistok]

@weloveanimetoo its in the book ;-)

[weloveanimetoo]

@aikistok is there a place online where u can buy this book?

[aikistok]

@weloveanimetoo I am glad you asked ;-). You can get it on amazon or through lulu.com.

[aikistok]

@weloveanimetoo I couldn't place a direct link to my "storefront" on lulu in the reply to your question so I included it in the description of the video.

[weloveanimetoo]

@aikistok i see. its been a while sense i have practiced, and indeed a while sense i have watchd this video. i wil have to get into it again, once i have the means to purchase the book you linkd . domo :D

[SebastianKaczorowski]

@weloveanimetoo can't do it in real life

[aikistok]

@SebastianKaczorowski  I do it in real life every monday, wednesday and friday. You're welcome to join us and do it in real life as well. ;-)

[SebastianKaczorowski]

@aikistok Just tell me where is it? :)

[Zack4568]

im thinking of signing up for aikido, does it also include kicking techniques and stuff or is aikido 100% throws and grabs and that sort of stuff?

[kavun111]

Looking at this video I keep thinking that this aikidoka has no clue what real kick is. He should have invited a muai thai guy to feel the power of the kicks, not this one who has some stretching problems :) This is the problem of aikido "masters" who practice with the brain-washed dummies and then demonstrate this to others and get them mislead.

[aikistok]

I'm sorry you feel that way and that u are not able to open your mind and try to understand or show an ounce of respect for what you are responding to. That you do respond shows some measure of interest. If you would add sincere curiosity to that in stead of condescension, I would be happy to explain what we are doing in the video and what experience I have with kickboxing, muay thai and Jiu Jitsu fighting system. Let me know if you are interested in more than your own opinion.

[Batou667]

@aikistok The guy has a point though (kavun111) - is there really ANY merit in training in a choreographed way against a compliant, almost pacifistic opponent? I could defend myself successfully against a guy with a machine gun, provided it was choreographed in advance and he wasn't really aiming at me anyway. Would love to see some leg counters preformed against an opponent who was actually trying to connect. (Criticism, not disrespect)

[aikistok]

@Batou667 Thanks for the question. Is there any merit? I would say yes, it does have merit. Because what you need to train is technique and form first, before you can execute with power. The aikido I practiced is not so much choreographed in advance as it is based on a mutual understanding of what could happen if uke resists at certain points. But, I am not practicing aikido to learn how to fight, I practice it to learn how to live.

[Batou667]

@aikistok Interesting reply. Thanks, and best of luck in your practice.

[aikistok]

I could post another video with a uke who is kicking harder, with more power and speed, and I would be happy to if it would serve a purpose. I do practice that way. It will however, still be aikido and some people just don't understand what aikido is about. There is no convincing them anyway. Moreover, I am not actually trying to convince anybody that aikido is or isn't something. Everyone can take it as they like, but I always advise trying to understand stuff instead of berating it.

[Grumblemarc]

@kavun111

I agree. I have done Kyokushin for quite a while now and am looking at taking up Aikido (am having to give up kyokushin due to a non-related leg injury). In a lot of these demos it looks like the guy doing the kicking is kind of kicking without much force and then waiting for the take-down...

[aikistok]

@Grumblemarc It's a demo...on technique. Not on application.

[Grumblemarc]

@aikistok Fair point, but either way... I do wonder whether that kind of technique would be effective if the other guy was really trying! I have no bone to pick - like I said, I'm probably going to take up aikido - I'm just curious.

[aikistok]

@Grumblemarc I have done a number of these with people really trying, and the problem with it is, the harder they try, the more dangerous the technique comes, also for them, as an attacker. So it is difficult to practice at real intensity. And the blood-thirsty, no holds barred berserking, seasoned with a bit of fear, which is what a street fight is normally like, is very hard if not impossible to emulate in practice.

[jtread66]

The book. Aikido, Aikibojitsu and the Structure of Natural Law presents ideas that translate directly to more effective technique, whether you are doing Aikido, staff work, karate, or any other high-performance athletic endeavor. If you want to see a great technical book series, Saito Sensei's five volume Aikido series (out of print) is invaluable to the beginning and intermediate student of Aikido. Respect, thanks, and love to the spirit of the late Saito Sensei!

[SUPERSTUD6000]

aikido teaches you how to defeat a drunk with an inner ear infection. have fun larping, jedis.

[aikistok]

@SUPERSTUD6000 That's faintly funny. Thanks for making me grin. :-)

[SUPERSTUD6000]

@aikistok well, you know the type

[aikistok]

@SUPERSTUD6000 I certainly know your type ;-)

[SUPERSTUD6000]

@aikistok may the force be with you jedi.

[AressiYashiroB]

Martial arts book doesnt work, if you want to learn go and train with some good instructor

[aikistok]

@AressiYashiroB How I love a good nuanced remark. Sure, you can't learn Martial arts from a book. You need a good instructor. But a book can provide insight and inspiration. It can be a guide base lessons on; in that way it can work. And it has, for that matter; you should try it ;-)

[9182727189]

Best aikido video i've watched so far ...At least a more realistic one...

[str8bigr1]

im a grappler...So i wanna hear from all the boxers/& k.boxers would Aikido really work. Why is it the opponent always drives through all his strikes. I was taught 2 snap out my punches in combo's. It always seems like a all or nothing big punch/kick. Is this how boxers/k.boxers do it? Catch a punch in mid air, then spin him around? Seems like u would get ko'd trying 2 catch a punch. I wish every fight was like the 1 in the demo. Seems insulting 2 the people that like 2 strike

[aikistok]

@str8bigr1 This video is not about the question, "does aikido work"? This video is about an application of aikido principles within a setting of aikido. Discussions (useless ones as far as I am concerned) about does aikido work are plenty all over the internet. If you like would like to engage in one I would like to ask you to find one which already is underway, and not start a new one here. Thanks in advance.

[Stevekido]

@str8bigr1 . The point of all technique in aikido is actually to strive to learn perfect timing in counter attack. It is harder to move against a grasp of the wrist or clothing than a strike. Most people do not realise that the point is simply "irimi" which means to enter. Or in other words to hit people. All the rest is just to learn balance and timing in movement such that the type of attack becomes irrelevant. So most comments are purely a lack of understanding.

[FearThisChannel]

@Stevekido Of course they are! Did you really think those guys who commented on aiki videos with one liners such as: aikido=fake actually put ANY effort into knowing about aikido? Hell no. They're those MMA types who only care about street brawls and fighting in a cage.

[Stevekido]

@str8bigr1. I actually did aikido and jiu-jitsu side by side for 10 years and found the aikido made my jiu-jitsu better due to better understanding of the mechanics of the bipedal human body. All martial arts have their strengths and weaknesses but are really a lot more similar than people tend to realise, resulting in childish "My Dad is harder than your dad type mentality". practice strikes, kicks, grappling, throws, locks and you have everything. it has all come from collective learning

[FearThisChannel]

@str8bigr1 The point is that in a real life fight you wouldn't fight like a boxer or kickboxer. You'd be off balance. It would not be your goal to score points. In SD situations, attackers lash out wildly, kickboxers don't (hopelfully for them).

[FearThisChannel]

@str8bigr1 I know people like you. You are trying to bash Aikido only for a nice discussion which ( YOU THINK) you will win.

Arts like BJJ or MT have 0% philosophy. It is baseless and I see no reason to train it. Both arts completely lack effectivity on some points.

Aikido, however, trains principles rather than loose techniques, so it can be applied in any situation. It is a controlled technique, in arts like MT you just have to kick until the attacker drops dead on the ground.

[matias123451]

@FearThisChannel you dont have any clue what a really fight is...go and save the world with your philosophy jedi..

[FearThisChannel]

@matias123451 First of all, how do you know that I haven't a clue? Of course you wouldn't believe me if I said I've been in real fights, but that's not the point. The point is that Aikido is based on comprehensive principles which dig deep into the fight itself. The philosophy wasn't just added to give Aikido a nice spiritual flavour, but because O Sensei found that Truth can't be denied and that it extends to every aspect of life, including fighting.

[FearThisChannel]

@matias123451 I suggest you read something before you actually judge. Read into the nature of Aikido, its philosophy and the way it operates and, most important of all, enter a good dojo and try to spar the Sensei.

Some good books are:

On philosophy:

- Budo, by Morihei Ueshiba

- The Secret Teaching of Aikido, by Morihei Ueshiba

On the technical part:

- Aikido and the Dynamic Sphere, by Adele Westbrook and Oscar Ratti

- Total Aikido, by Gozo Shioda

Contact me for more.

[aikistok]

@FearThisChannel

And a of course the book: Aikido Keri-waza ;-)

[485Marco]

Tal caul coincido con vos.. por eso me da gracia cuando la gente que no save dice.. "no el aikido no sirve porque no ahi una tecnica para cada ataque " . y les contesto que obio que no ahi una tecnica para cada ataque pero en un momento de "riesgo" o en un momento de un ataque diferente vas a usar fracmentos de tecnicas o desplazamientos que tengas incorporados que te sirvan para armar tu propia tecnica en el momento que las nesecites y hasta te va a salir Por inercia

[485Marco]

Como se Llaman las tecnicas

[aikistok]

@485Marco El nombre de las technicas son los mismos que en aikido normal. La razon es que technicas son applicaciones fysicas de principios de movimiento (movement principles). Ikkyo, Kote gaeshi, Irimi nage, Shiho nage etcetera. No son technicas nuevas, si no son differentes applicaciones de las principios que cada aikido conoce.

[485Marco]

Como se llaman las tecnicas ?

[FearThisChannel]

@485Marco You better look it up. Buy the book.

[aikistok]

@FearThisChannel Good idea ;-)

[485Marco]

Jajajajaja coreografias dice.. no saves nadaaa.. como se nota que nunca hiciste aikido. te invito solamente a que vallas a una practica no mas por donde vivis que te consigo un dojo de aikido para que vallas y veas .. Y espero que no llores porque te va a doler y mucho mas de lo que vos pensas.. mira que no solo pegar una piña o tirar una patada es un arte marcial ...

[matias123451]

@SAMURAISAMURA el que como el pan porsupuesto... ..ademas Krav Magá no usa nada de aikido porque nada de aikido es real o util..son solo coreografias.

[aikistok]

@matias123451 Gentleman, I don't really see how the Krav Maga discussion is in any way positive or constructive so maybe you can drop it. Thanks in advance.

[PawnBACM]

Great video. Why is it so hard to find muay thai versus aikido videos. Does anyone have any good links?

[badboyjeff031]

Aikistok, I applaud you for working on principles of Aiki against Keri waza.The Aikido world as a whole needs to evolve towards keeping Aikido current against possible attacks.Though I believe in the street kicking is on the lower end of the attack spectrum,high percentage movements against kicks need to be practiced.Your doing good by investigating theories using aiki principles dont forget to weed out the ineffective moves through realistic practice,a great start!!

[aikistok]

@badboyjeff031 Thank you for the kind words.

[badboyjeff031]

3kosty3 didnt Imi Litchenfeld the founder of Krav Maga use some of Aikido,Karate and Jujutsu(traditional) to make it for warfare.It is a specific answer to specific attacks based on culture,gender and geography of a specific time,it is only better within its context,much like mma to cage fighting or CDT(and Aikido) for Security and Bouncer work.

[badboyjeff031]

RyzER617, I have studied a bit of wing chun and am a Godan in Aikido,the Tesabaki(hand movements)in Seagal Sensei's Aikido is similar to Wing Chun.Uke Nagashi is like Bon Sao except it doesnt cut centerline with its structure but leads it past you,Soto Giri has a very Pak sao feel except it doesnt pressure more than it connects to the elbow and follows it(out with punch or in with retraction) and Tsuri Age is much like Lap Sao with a more rounded feel.It can be done!

[raysilverstrand]

Great Idea for a book!!!!

Good job!!!

[3kosty3]

maybe aikido good but krav maga is 100 times batter in reall fight

[aikistok]

@3kosty3

That seems like well thought out and a good, proven practice, experienced based statement. Thank you and congratulations. And have fun with Krav Maga and real fighting.

[heathirving]

@aikistok

(tongue in cheek)

excellent extension of ki in that statement!

[mapick2tube]

aikido is always to theoretical! take so and so, break, flip, jump, ... but you should be superman to do all this in the time of a real kick, apart the other in the mean time "usually" reacts!

[aikistok]

Saying aikido "is" this or that will always bring you short of the mark of really knowing or wanting to understand what aikido is. Sure there is theory to aikido, it should be the basis of any art. But there is also application and in the aikido I practice, this certainly gets a lot of attention. The same with these keri waza techniques. What is shown is theory and instruction. Application takes another form.

We do not however jump or flip in our dojo, that's just silly ;-)

[mapick2tube]

@aikistok

may be, but that doesn't take away that in a real fight you can't do much of what you show...

however i agree that everyone is free to find what he is looking for!

[quixote1975]

The Aikido isn`t a martial art, is a BUDO, used to take a WAY TO HARMONY trhougth the KI, you never gonna see on a MMA `cause we do not compete, eventually could help on a fight situation, but opponent in aikido is not really an opponent is a generator of disharmony that is absorbed through the ki... In real situations is more efective than it looks...

[mapick2tube]

@quixote1975 i agree, of course everyone usualy tends to see what he is looking for, so for example i search effectiveness and may be i don't see the other aspects of the discipline

[joelaka3pac123]

alot of people who disrespect aikido(mma or mt fanboys usually) talk down on it sayin its nothin more than stupid wristlocksbut this proves that its definately far more

[RyzER617]

I asked a local Aikido Master if Wing Chun would work with aikido--he said YES emphatically, but when I asked my W/C Master he said an emphatically no....

any Aikido guys wanna comment? I'd love to hear from ya.

[aikistok]

Sorry for the delay on the answer. I would say....don't know, and to be brutally honest, I don't know if it is terribly interesting. Both martial arts are trained under a set of their own premisses and rules. Mixing the two in an altercation would probably result in the aikidoka not really doing aikido and WC not really doing Wing Chun....so what's the point really ;-).

[joelaka3pac123]

u wont see any grappler whether it be judo aikido or jujitsu without striking technique i usually see akidokans with karate like striking technique so technically u still would be aikido not mma cuz all grapplers have some striking u gotta know how to strike b4 u know how to stop it just like how some karatekas how their own takedown techniques so yes go for it

[RogerGonz]

In our aikikai dojo I teach similar techniques but that's because of my training in other martial arts. If you're 1 on 1 and no one else is around, going to the ground is fine; when you're in a bar or in a riot atmosphere, someone else standing is going to kick you in the head while you're trying an arm bar on the ground. O'Sensei's goal was to develop an art capable of defending in multiple attack situations; he found most of the martial arts of the time focused only on 1 to 1 combat...

[KungFuKid1015]

People should alow aikido to evolve with the times, Ueshiba last taught 40 years ago and even though we aikido practitioners can respect him and love what he did, we must alow aikido to evolve and learn to use it for various situations of today's society. This goes the same for every martial art. But don't get caught up in that ground fighting crap, that won't get you anywere but dead on the street. That shit is for Spike TV only.

[imitchellgill]

I've heard that before about going to the ground.

1. You might not want to go to the ground. You might end up there anyway. Bad luck, unpredictable environment, whatever.

2. On my profile page, I have some favorites where some people are fighting one on one. There are at least two victories because of a ground fighting knowledge.

It's just an opinion, but I wouldn't rule out ground fighting. It lets you avoid the ground, get up fast, or win there.

[FearThisChannel]

@KungFuKid1015 I think, sooner or later, keri waza will become more integrated in aikido.

[nagantm44]

@KungFuKid1015

so says the "kung fu kid" that doesn't know anything about ground fighting to begin with

[KungFuKid1015]

@nagantm44 Excuse me!? How do you know what I know and don't know anything about. Kung Fu encompases MANY forms of fighting, including groundfighting....where do you think BJJ camne from? I also have studied Judo and am ranked in Aikido, which bith have ground fighting....so who are you?

[aikistok]

@KungFuKid1015 Lets not get into discussion about BJJ< ground fighting and all the other stuff people argue so much about in other video's. Obviously nagantm44 is baiting you to react. Don't give him/her the satisfaction. Blend ;-)

[KungFuKid1015]

@aikistok Yeah, I just don't understand people's ignorance at times. It just gets to me, lol.

[aikistok]

@nagantm44 Aikido is not about ground fighting, this video isn't about ground fighting and Kung Fu kids remark wasn't about ground fighting. I cannot see any point in your remark any other than trying to rile somebody. That is not a contribution to anything.

I actually share Kung Fu Kids thoughts, and am working to make that happen. Good luck with ground fighting.

[colecash415]

very informative.. thanks. You never see aikido guys defending kicks..

[MrUserbill]

Thanks for this: a very welcome and unusual demo. The shin blocks look scary, though!!+

[aikistok]

It can be if you do not combine it with good taisabaki. The empaphasis is in the movement and the leg is raised for protection.

[aikicop1]

The background music is annoying. Try a voiceover either with the instruction points as would be found in the video, or one selling the video or promoting the dojo where these techniques are taught.

[aikistok]

Dear aikiciop1, thanks for the tips. Unfortunately there is no voiceover as there is no instruction video (yet). I quite like the music (its from m favorite movie as well) but I do get that it could be annoying. I hope you managed to turn it off before it became too annoying for you to watch the video. For a next posting I will heed your tip. Once again, thanks.

[AikiBarry]

Thanks for posting this video. My sensei taught many defenses against kicks. It is interesting to see how many Aikido people resist that it is a valid part of Aikido. They are too static in their interpretation. Too focussed on technique and not enough on principles. To any old dog like myself, it is easy to see the principles that underly defense against kicks are the same as defense against strikes. It's all about tai-sabaki. Thanks again.

[thehymner]

aikido makes me sad....learned it for a while. Think only Ueshiba knows what he was doing. Everybody else is just having fun.

[sportbaselive]

"Learned it for a while" so you really know what you are talking about....but you are right in one way: it is a lot of fun!

[thehymner]

what this guy did was all fun and good, but you think it has anything to do with what's taught by O-sensei?

[sportbaselive]

O-Sensei isn't teaching anything anymore. But I understand the question. Another question could be: did the developement of Aikido end with O-Sensei's passing away? I don't think so.

[davidaguls]

some f asuka's throws

[sportbaselive]

Who is asuka?

[davidaguls]

a character in tekken 5 and 6

[nekillo1983]

Very interesting work thank you very much for this video ;)

[ApesHaveNoTails]

"big fan, love it, love you, you're awesome..." -Rhino

[ApesHaveNoTails]

Whoops... no that wasn't Rhino... that was the big fluffy cat.

[aikistok]

Thanks, its always good to meet the fans. ;-)

[aiki3d]

Exellent video. I teach many of these same techniques. Some I have not seen. How do I order the book? I am in the States. Thanks.

[fracturedfist]

too bad we dont do this at all it looks so mutch fun.

[Steevo2004]

Interesting, sadly my dojo reserves kick defence and weapon training for advanced students and special events. I'd rather train such technique's more often.

[aikistok]

Thanks for the reaction. One of the points of the book is that keri-waza kan and should be a part of standard training. Oftentimes teachers don't know where to begin and think they need to be at least 4th dan in an art such as karate to start with training. This book provides a methodology for training and techniques which can be praticed safely for all levels and all grades.

[Steevo2004]

Should it not be Giri-Waza indtead of Kiri-Waza? Giri being the japanese name for kicking, and kiri meaning "to cut". For example: Hare Kiri, to cut the Hare (center) as a form of ritual suicide.

[aikistok]

The roman usage of letters from Japan is always a bit difficult. I have spelt it Keri-waza. It is actually Mae-Geri, mawashi-geri etcetera but not Geri-waza. I have been made to understand that spelt that way it has more to do with breaking wind than with a kick. When Geri is at the begin of the prhase one should pronounce and write Keri (not Kiri which like you say is cut). Hence: Keri-waza

[SantanaBJJ]

i jus' have a little last question... it's aikikai or another aikido "style" ?

really thanks for the previews answers

[aikistok]

This is aikikai.

[SantanaBJJ]

lo que pasa es que yo practique aikido un par de años entonces conosco mas o menos que tan real son las tecnicas. y en la "vida real" como dices tu jamas vas a recibir una patada así creeme

bueno de todos modos el comentario fue con mucho respeto hacia el akido y hacia ti ;)

[aikistok]

Santana otra vez, gracias por el comentario. Veo que el primer comentariofue con respeto, y gracias para eso. Es bien que tienes experiancia kon aikido. Entonces tambien sabes es que en el aikido (en la manera que llo lo practico) la "vida real" no es lo mas importante. Si seria lo mas importante, aikido seria jiu-jitsu. Sin embargo en las technicas mostradas trabajamos con mae-geri y mawashi geri. Talves in el video las patadas no son 100%, pero en practica, trabajamos 100%. Creeme. Gracias!

[sportbaselive]

It actually is. Effectiveniss cannot and should not be judged by a video but by feeling what is happening. But starting with the whole "is aikido effective discussion" is a waste of time and effort.

[SantanaBJJ]

beauty but not too much effective... i believe

[aikistok]

Santana, thanks for the reaction. Please take note these video's were taking during the making of the book. So they are in effect in a setting of training adapting speed of execution to photagraphy.

As for being effective or not; to me the main purpose of aikido is not making it effective in a competition situation as BJJ obviously is. As for "real-life", there are so many variable it is, to me, useless to talk about that. When we train, the kicks are fullspeed, the techniques effective.

[sportbaselive]

Cool