Mark Handy zeigt uns zwar seinen auf einmal um 50 Pfund schwereren Körper mit massigeren Muskeln. Doch basiert dieses Muskelwachstum, vor allem darauf, dass er statt Rohkost auch Nahrungsergänzungsmittel aß.Nahrungsergänzungsmittel sind aufgrund ihrer devitalisierenden Eigenschaften (keine Rohkost, unnatürliche Verabeitung, dehydriert, konzentriert) vom Körper mit Wasser zu neutralisieren, was die Muskeln massiger aussehen läßt.Jericho Sunfire Videos beschreiben dies ausführlich und glaubhaft.
I got an idea: What if I turn vegan from now on. My body will start to turn weaker and weaker every day, but still for a few weeks I would be the most ripped vegan "bodybuilder" on the whole goddamn planet.
And I'm not even big for a meat-eater. But seriously, show me ONE ripped (which means big AND lean) vegan dude.
all this dude has in one day is fresh air, water, 2 medium sized smoothies with a bit of digestive enzymes + vegan protein powder, and a salad + vegan deserts here and there... not many calories at all
easy fruits to digest and for blending would be: grapes, berries, and mangoes
this is good because mangoes and berries are sold frozen all year round and the frozen cubed mangoes are easy to toss in a blender
@TheFreshbum also, I've tried stuffing my face full of a trillion fruit calories, it just doesn't work, yah gotta do what the dude in the video I posted says and go easy on the digestive system in order to absorb all the nutrients. I'm someone who becomes underweight if I eat 9 donuts a day, 2 pizzas, pasta, whey protein shakes with honey, etc (up to 6000 calories per day). Yet if I have under 2000 calories/day with this dudes method I stay at a good weight.
The key thing is that people on raw food have a lot less body fat, but denser more solid muscle - so the power to weight ratio goes up and they look skinnier
@betterwithbo Your not getting the significance of someone on this type of diet looking as big as he does, many people on the same diet would look emaciated, thats the whole point of this unique video, the guy barely eats anything including protein & carbs. Have You seen most people living on a very sparse raw veggie diet? If he ate meat he'd probably be dramatically bigger but he chooses to eat in this minimalist way and he still looks good. Some eat all day and are still skinny
@leftwingnazi are you serious? is it really possible to not recognize trained muscles like the one shown here? that's pretty surprising! i wonder if it is hollywood and co. who spread the pictures of unnatural musclemass like the ones of steroid users in our heads.
@schrebnock As a novice bodybuilder myself, I would not make the assumption this guy trains with weights. I would think he was healthy and fit due to doing some physical activities like hiking or some other sport. He's not particularly lean being around 14 percent body fat. And he has average muscle composition. Not hard to recognize at all.
@leftwingnazi Not everyone ends up at 250+ when they train, and again Mark here is eating a very low calorie ALL RAW VEGAN diet. Most huge bodybuilders are eating lots of calories and protein, this is the difference and this is what is to be recognized by this video, not that he's packing unusual size for an average bodybuilder. He is not average he is an extremely low calorie, low protein bodybuilder. Who understands this besides me?
@Myflesh101 I do and that's why I wanted to interview him, although I wouldn't consider his diet low protein when he takes up to 3 scoops of sunwarrior protein a day, 1 litre of raw milk (new addition to his diet) and around 1 litre of green juice as well.
@SecretsOfLongevity I know You do Zak hahhaaa some of the most well researched and open minded info I've seen anywhere! Still pretty moderate on protein (hovering around 100 grams, 32 now from animal) compared to some of the gigantic bodybuilders some are referring to who do anywhere from 200-600 and beyond grams of animal protein. Cool to hear the new info about the addition of raw milk, has he gained more since doing this? Thanks again for this interview, it always fascinates me.
@Myflesh101 He's gained strength but not size as he's super focused on building his raw chocolate bar business. I know he get's well over 100 grams of protein per day that's for sure.
@SecretsOfLongevity Good to know on the protein. How many calories rough estimate does Mark do, if you know? Was gonna ask you how your own diet/lifestyle has been going but I should check your new vids first.
@Myflesh101 So let me be clear. You're trying to define a guy who look healthy but totally average as a bodybuilder? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to say that he works out? This guy is not a bodybuilder. For a vegan on a low calorie diet he's not very lean either. He looks to be around 15% bodyfat. Which is again - average.
@leftwingnazi Have U studied other very-low calorie low protein, low carb, raw food people who work out? Do You have a reference for this? Your comparing him to others on a very different diet, or people who have the kind of genetics that are monsters no matter what they eat or who eat meat, your not seeing the uniqueness of this lifestyle. Most people on this same diet are like sticks(100-140 lbs).See part 2, he says all he does are a green drink,a salad and a little chia seeds.
@leftwingnazi So we could debate the semantics of what "bodybuilder" for you it might mean any one 220 lbs & up and maybe thats a good definition for someone whos not eating very little calorie,protein & carbohydrate wise.Many"bodybuilders"You speak of are eating 3000-6000 or more calories and 200-500 grams of protein depending on genetics.So it's all relative.But obviously this is not a video about gigantic mass bodybuilding, never claimed to be.Hes still building his body though.
@leftwingnazi But if You don't take the extremely low calorie vegan(at the time of the video) diet hes on and compare it to the majority of most people doing a similar diet then there is no point to this video. He could be MUCH bigger if he wanted, just throw in some meat and more calories. He chooses this approach at the expense of being more massive, this is how some yogis eat and most of them are sticks.
@leftwingnazi There are numerous people doing fairly high calorie raw food diets with lots of carbs, do you know what they look like? And I don't know who you hang out with but the average person doesn't have chiseled, obviously trained muscled that have shape to them. The average person has far less shape or is straight up fat. I am a massage therapist and I see alot of average people and they aren't very sculpted. You talkin about the "average" ATHLETE?
@Myflesh101 You're right on this point. American's have set the "average" bar way higher in fat ratio than it's supposed to be. What I mean is average in the context of bodyfat percentage most males are supposed to be at to be healthy. Like I said, he looks about 15% body fat which is what doctors describe as average. Chiseled is a bit of an exaggeration friend. As I said, he looks healthy and active.. I wouldn't describe him as a bodybuilder at all.
@leftwingnazi Gotta admit if I had a video on myself in a similar circumstance I would title it perhaps "interview with Low Calorie Raw Vegan Athlete" "Bodybuilding" is a much more controversial term which invites scrutiny.When I was 220 of mostly muscle at 6 foot I didn't refer to myself as a bodybuilder,I would want to be about 240 to put that label on myself.I'm still VERY impressed with what Mark accomplished, while staying true to his dietary discipline/views and compassion.
@leftwingnazi As far as bodyfat goes have You seen Ronnie Coleman or Lee Priest in the off-season? These are some of the top bodybuilders(to mention a couple) in history and they are staight up fat at times when they are not in a contest(complete with man-boobs) it does not mean they are not bodybuilders when they have the extra fat on them.
@Myflesh101 The objective of a bodybuilder is to be lean at some point. If this guy were ripped like 6% body fat he would probably be 155 pounds. Hardly body builder size mass. I'll give him credit that he looks good for a vegan. I wouldnt have the drive to workout as I do eating that clean, that low in calories, and with the limited choices. I'll keep my meat, fruit and vegetable diet.
@EvoExpress If you ACTUALLY read a few books on physiology instead of talking about reading them and trying to act like an arrogant know-it-all you'd know that fatty acids are used as fuel and never turn into glucose. You'd also know that they're turned into ketones. Protein can be converted to glucose, yes.
"Living on chocolate, supplements and oils" Mark eats much more than this, obviously your listening skills need to be improved.
@SecretsOfLongevity Sorry :-d LoL, I was actually thinking you will throw in a few books and links, what can be furtherly discussed in defense of your statements. Anyways :-D Thanks
@AnatomicalALIGNMENT hey thanks!! i actually watch all but be your potential. Dan the man was my first and still greatest teacher*online that is, never met him YET.
can you please tell me if and where i can get more info about Mark Handy and his specific diet philosophies? i would like to try some of the things he mentions. other helpful ideas would be great as well. i am also interested in knowing how he has gotten so fit with that diet! not that i think it's hard at all, just that i would love to do it. thanks so much for your time!
People seem to go from high fruit diets to low fruit diet extremes --- what's wrong with just eating a balanced raw diet: fruits, vegetables, dark leafy greens, nuts, seeds, and sprouts?
@stormtalifero I have no idea for most people Storm! I know that in Mark's case that he had specific issues that he had to deal with that required going very low sugar for awhile. I know for sure now that he is eating a lot more berries and various types of fruits (although generally no bananas, dates, mangoes etc) and some sprouted grains and sprouted flatbreads.
you are a LEGEND dude !!!!! much respect to you, just curious have you ever experimented with Fasting ?
your example and long Life experience in this area of Vegan food and health is POWERFUL and Fantastic . im curious, Whats your Opinion of David Wolfe and all those super expensive Supplements and Dead packaged food he sells in Cans, bottles, pills etc. ?
@wawei67 This isn't Mark's youtube channel, that's why it says interview in the title. Some people include bee products in the term vegan other's don't. The point of the title is to demonstrate where the majority of his calories come from. If he wasn't eating the pollen it would not have made that much of a difference to his results.
None of this makes sense to me. I lift and eat loads of fruit-no problems, and I know many others who do as well. There is a missing link here that is not being told or is not known. I am really glad this guy is doing better, but honestly this sounds more like one person's bodily dysfunction vs. the diet. 9,000 calories a day and loosing weight? That is not the food...that is something your body is not doing. In good science we say correlative is not causation. Thanks for sharing.
he does look a lot more buff than the other vegans. at least he has some "meat" on him ;) lol the other vegans look sickly, almost like the jews from nazi germany, really really sad. i'm trying to convince myself to switch to this raw diet, but I really don't want to look sick and disgusting.
Hippocrates have people they can't heal on their fruitphobic diet and Robert Morse ND often gets them healed in 6 months, on fruit and herbs.
They just focus on blood, not lymph
The reason, i guess, why he had his trouble on fruit was poor digestion [perhaps pancreas, maybe just the gutwall malfunctioning] and weak kidneys.. both caused by "interstitial lympathic constipation", clogged acidic lymph between the cells, from SAD and "bodybuilding" high protein diet. If he'd used the right herbs..
Lol! don't blind us with your science, SecretsOfLongevity.. your logic is brutally crushing my point.
say.. compared to Morse's record of curing [helping their bodies to heal themselves], 100000+ people over 40 years of all manner of incurable "diseases" and regenerating tissue, even whole bones like vertebrae, what is your clinical record?
I won't hold my breath because i strongly suspect you don't even have a clinical practice.
@danielskipp1 Lol, there are quite a few people who have problems with 80/10/10. I've done several colon and liver cleanses and still had really bad gas on 80/10/10. Dr. McDougal's starch diet works best for me. I never calorie restrict nor do I overeat. You have to realize that everyone is different and that some diet might be good for one person, but absolutely horrible for another. Everyones different thats why there are diets like 80/10/10, paleo, mcdougal's diet, dr. furhman's diet, etc.
you mistake me for someone who promotes 80/10/10. I did not.
I promote Morse's detox diet: raw ripe fresh fruit and herbs and veg if necessary. No proteins.
Did you do kidney cleanses? Adrenal herbal healing? Detox where you always pee acidic lymph? It takes time to heal decades of starch-binging, but i guess you are more comfortable on a "diet", not detoxing for full healing.
Starch from grain is for birds. Spuds are acidifying.. rice is glue. Good luck with your choices.
The only food dense in calories that he eats is seeds, so seeds is his priarly food for obtain calories, so he is eating tremendous amounts of FAT,SO LIKE ALL THE EXPERTS IN THE WORLD SAYS: THAT IS A VERY UNHEALTHY DIET. That is why he have some fat like he says, specially in his waist. But very interesting interview!
@adrygarcia He doesn't have fat around his waist, fat is NOT unhealthy and he get's most of his calories from carbs and protein. He eats a wide variety of berries, some sprouted grain wraps and tons of greens, sprouts and algar which are up to 40% protein. A couple of tablespoons of chia seed and an avocado here and there will not be a huge amount of calories from fat.
@SecretsOfLongevity About his waist, sorry about my coment, was the posture and the pants that seems. and yes if he eats like that is clearly low fat. I don't say that fat is unhealthy, but too much fat is bad, is better a diet low in fat, even the hypocrates diet recomends low fat.
By the way, many people think that 25% of your calories from fat is too much fat, what is your opinion?? how percentage of fat you eat approximately?
@adrygarcia I've addressed this in my video series on animal foods. There is absolutely nothing harmful in fats unless they're polyunsaturated because they oxidize inside of the body quicker. The Hippocrates diet is medium fat.
@SecretsOfLongevity thanks for the information, It's true, we need very small porcions, even we can get omega 3 & omega 6 from vegetables and fruits, that is the best way to get them because they're the only foods that contain the essential fatty acids with the best RATIO for the human body (about 1:1). Grains, avocados, nuts or seeds have to much omega 6 vs omega 3.
But almost there is no sources of mono fats that don't have also poly fats, I can't understand this point, explain me please.
@SecretsOfLongevity ok, I realize that years ago you think that vegan diet is healthy and now you discovered that is unhealthy, I can see this just reading coments of you in youtube years ago saying that all nutrients are in plants or reading in your website similar thing, even you say in your website that Brian Clement or Gabriel Cousens will most live very long lives.
@adrygarcia I say most likely, not certainly that they'll live long lives. I think their diet is extremely healthy, but there's better things available that they're closed off to.
@adrygarcia PLEASE SORRY ABOUT MY COMENT, I RESPECT YOU SO MUCH, YOUR WEBSITE AND CHANNEL IT'S FANTASTIC, ONLY HATRED THAT PEOPLE CONTRADICT THEMSELVES, BECAUSE THIS CAUSES THAT I CANNOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING OF THE LONGEVITY...
I see where Mark is coming from. I was on the 80/10/10 for a while and the whole "stuff it your fruit in and your stomach will stretch" mentality is ridiculous. At least 1/4 of the stomach must be empty for food to get properly digested and absorbed. I was getting a lot of gas when overeating fruit. Stretching your stomach definitely doesn't seem natural. 80/10/10 is definitely not for everyone. Although I was following 80/10/10 to the letter, I found out it wasnt for me.
@SecretsOfLongevity Im a vegan as well, I have no health problems! I lost 40LB Gluten dairy and sugar is poison! People and society are so brainwashed and stubborn, they will tell you, you cant live of of plants! You will die! What Bullshit! Every kid today has add, asthma, allergies! and people have cancer because of Toxic food chemo and drugs! Peace and love man!
@pavy415 No one's claiming he's a professional bodybuilder, but he did put on 50 pounds of muscle using bodybuilding techniques. He lifts weights the way bodybuilders do, not the way Olympic lifters do and not the ways strongman competition guys do and he's not training mostly calisthenics for martial arts, so he's a bodybuilder. Your mind is stuck on a specific look. Mark's goals are health and to be bigger then the average, not to be so jacked he can't tie his own shoes.
@0ddzZz He went from 137 or so to 190 pounds, do you not know basic math? Call him up yourself and inquire if you want to. His email and phone number is on his website that I posted in the drop down menu.
@0ddzZz course it could be. muscle density and its relation to weight means theirs no way anyone could say it is, or is not based on a video. however to say that it looks more like ten pounds is just silly.
@pavy415 He looks great in my opinion, not as big as a meat/dairy eater, but have You realized how little he eats? Do You realize the significant of that? No one that I have seen eating that little is as big and toned as he is. But yeah if You compare him to a pro bodybuilder, then Your not getting the point of this video. Actually part 2 tells You how very little he eats now.
@pavy415 I haven't seen anyone 180 lbs eating just a green smoothie and a salad a day, have You? Thats what sets this video apart. I looked up "Vegan Boy", couldn't find anything. Do You mean "Raw Nature Boy"? Most raw bodybuilders eat quite a bit of food.
this guy here works out but i would not put him near the word "bodybuilder", i think much better example is Albert Beckles, he is vegetarian not vegan but its in this case the same thing, both dont eat nothing from any kind of animal
as a vegan christian for the last 25 years i have dedicated my body to JESUS CHRIST i live upstate ny summer time i am raw fruit winter i willhave whole wheat pasts or baked potato 2 years ago i FASTED 51 days 21 on juice 30 on water did not JESUS fast our body is GODS temple not some stupid BUILDING look at these so called GLUTTON preachers on tv if you want to read about the REAL JESUS type in THE ESSENE GOSPEL OF PEACE takeing care of yourbody is good i just take it a step further A EHERT
Did he say "sleep a lot"? Well obviously if that's the case Raw Food is not the thing to do if you want to be more energized, needing lesser sleep etc.
@neopogos If you're an athlete or exercise to any degree you need sleep to repair muscle. I don't care what you eat, if you try to cut back on sleep you'll heal and repair yourself much slower. Raw Food is not supposed to make you have less sleep, those that promote that don't realize how important sleep is for your health.
@ChronicFatigueSyn The ones I link to in the description box below the video. They're called HHIzymes which is the Hippocrates Health Institute's enzymes. They are high in protein digesting enzymes which most digestive enzymes are low in because they're pricier. They'll ensure tons of amino acids flood your muscles if you're on a good workout program.
Alright, thanks Zak. That does make sense to me, but overall energy wise I just felt bogged and was wondering how you managed to do it. What's always gotten me was how Brian Clement says he was at 120 and just started working out to put on weight. Is that even possible? I know very little about him and would love to hear your opinion on that. Also, any advice on getting more grounded through food? Or having better focus? Animals and onions help, but I'm looking to get my face back...haha
@TheCaseyInman I'm pretty certain Brian was down to 120 when the Hippocrates program included a lot of fruit and raw honey etc. You need the building blocks as well as the work to put on muscle. On the HHI program yes you use more than someone gorging on meat and carbs. Animal products are definitely grounding, I wouldn't call onions grounding however, nor for focus. Greens help most people increase clear thinking and to feel grounded and calm. Fats will build your face back up too.
Can I get away with weight gain on two large meals a day? I was doing 4 meals a day, and gaining weight, but it kinda messed with my digestion. I find 2 or 3 meals a day makes me gave way more energy and feel less "bogged." I'm at 141-144ish now 5' 10" and I'd love to pack on a bit more muscle I just don't feel I can eat that much. Did you find it comfortable to eat that much during your strength training?
@TheCaseyInman If you're addressing me, Zak, then I'd say if 2-3 meals a day works best for you do it. Most bodybuikding programs emphasize 5-6 SMALL meals a day (much bigger if you're already like 200lbs). The reason frequent eating helps with weight training is that you have a constant flow of calories and protein into the body so metabolism stays high. Less meals means you probably won't have as explosive growth but it is healthier IMO.
@RomneyPHONY You're beginning to sound like someone else here on youtube who seems to have a personal vendetta against DW. Of course David can lift 50 pounds over his head and he can do pushups and run fine. He's not an endurance athlete but he's far from not being able to do anything. If you're going to continue bad mouthing him on my channel I'll have to start deleting comments. That's not what my channel is for.
@RomneyPHONY I am familiar with him and he has great maximal body strength (but horrible form for that 1 arm pushup I must say!). 5 years is the blink of an eye, please search "the fruitarian myth" on youtube here and watch my video series on why fruitarianism is unsustainable. Tim is doing great, yeah, as are many other athletes. He would do better if he added more nuts and seeds or a little bit of meat into his diet.
@RomneyPHONY He'd do better with a little more protein.There is no protein myth, we need medium to large amounts of it to be successful in the long term. Fruitarians start to lose their hair and get bad skin etc from a number of deficiencies, protein being one of them. Some people can "get by" for longer than others as people's protein needs varies, but less than 10% of your total caloric intake as protein is not healthy.
Jericho Sunfire Elitom Ben Yisrael Pralad Jani Wiley Brooks Jasmuheen Akahi + Camilla Henri Monfort Mony Vital and Project Camelot, Disclosure Project...2012, 5th dimension and the grids Learn all you can about these names and things, and judge for yourself if it's food keeping your body alive or your mental attitude to just get up and...create your life? Food puts mass on the body. Ask yourself if anyone on ANY diet who doesnt train hard... do they get fit? No. Your body IS your mind/mindset
@vaporsofgold While I respect some of those people, some are complete frauds. What's the point in posting what you have? Show us some results of your "nothing but mental attitude" and put on some muscle.
If Mark is using bee pollen then he's not a vegan. Bee Pollen is not a vegan food. Each piece of bee pollen contains honey thereby making it non vegan.
@SecretsOfLongevity Actually, your response is incorrect. Anyone who is a vegan for ethical reasons and has been a vegan for ten years or more will tell you that bee pollen is not vegan. Someone who has been vegan for less than ten years and has not done their research will assume the claims made by most websites that bee pollen is vegan, even after all of the facts have come through. However, if you doubt my claim the do a search on the properties of bee pollen and you'll have your answer.
When you have your eyes opened to 'the raw' everything changes. Walking in the grocery store I could smell the fried chicken and craved it oh so much. Then I said why would I eat that? Before going raw I could not smell anymore along with many other health issues. I am very aware now of the lies and the dumbing down of society. The drug we are doped on called bread, cheese and meat. Yes we slow down because we are not on the high of food. We are more calm and the way we were meant to be!
@mentallystressed You could relieve your mental stress by eating raw. Seriously though have you ever watched someone die of cancer? It is hell. You won't die happy unless it is by a bus or a heart attack during the night. Unless you have eaten raw you can't know what you are missing. Ever wonder why so many people are going raw? It is a revolution not a fad. It is because they enjoy the euphorias, well being, productivity, clear skin and not being generally angry and jacked up 24/7.
i did not "judge" by his accent but by the tone but by the slugginesh .
he is pale.does not look healthy
people go to extremes.some are macrobiotic and don't eat raw salads and fruits and only drink tea.so these people think they are going to have a macro life(long life) 100% raw eaters also are in a extreme and they also don't have a long life
Gasanov from Russia lived 155 years, was a very robust person ,never had doctor
@igalflint The reason I'm laughing at your statement about Dr. Jensens books (which I'm sure are great) is that you seem to want to debate with me about my friends health when I clearly have stated both in the comments and in the video that you can contact my friend through his website with questions or comments. He's not going to respond here on youtube. As for Mark's skin tone, again you're judging him on a video clip at bad resolution when he's in the shade.
@igalflint ...this is Canada, we just start getting significant amounts of sunlight at the time of year this was recorded and posted. Mark's not extreme by any means. He gets regular bloodwork done, supplements accordingly and is by no means dogmatic about raw food. As for long lived raw foodists, of the top 8 longest lived cultures in the world, all of them have a descent amount of raw food in their diet and some of them (such as in Vilcabamba, Abkhasia and Hunza) eat over 50% raw foods.
my master,Dr Jensen, was in Vilcabamba an in Hunza land too.
when dealing with diet ,we have to incorporate factors such as, culture,tempo,soil, religion climate and altitude.do you know what is the altitude of this places? so do you think that a very,very high altitude can be a roll model for a diet followed in Canada?i've already explain you that raw foods have a lot of oxygen . they are called oxyferic foods and of course most needed in high altitudes.to much of it deranges the body
@igalflint I welcome constructive criticism and evidence based debate on my channel, however it's apparent that you have some sort of a superiority complex going on and your motivation is to put others down without logic or any reasonable basis. I'm not here to waste my time trying to convince you of anything and I've mentioned a couple times that you can contact Mark at the link in the description box since you feel he is so unhealthy.
raw foods are only a part of a healthy mode of living
six years is nothung in terms of time. in order for us to judge a diet i would say that we have to wait at least 20 years
six years is not even a sound begining
he talks as a drunk and as he has been really doing it for such a long time. as he was already a wise man with decades of practise and this not the case here!!!!!!!!
@igalflint Not sure what you're going on about... he stilt eats a mostly raw foods diet. If someone is doing something and they are getting sick, losing tons of weight and/or not getting the results they desire, it would be absolutely insane to try and force it to work for 20 years.
@igalflint He trains his legs fine. Understand that you're watching a video... you have not met him in real life. Can you not see he's sitting on an angle and leaning over? Of course he doesn't appear perfectly symmetrical, it's called physics. If you'd like to meet him contact him at his website. As for his voice, judging people by their accent has been done for ages and can be a form of classism or other prejudice. His thyroid is fine.
Lol, I won't be reading Dr. Jensen's books anytime soon.
@igalflint Eating raw....no it is living a lifestyle in harmony with nature. This includes eating raw, moderate exercise (like an animal would), seeking positive people, places and things. If you eat raw and live like typical Americans, it won't work. Pick a side and go 100%. I am so sick of how meat, bread and cheese make me feel. If it makes you feel like crap, it is crap. Being a big puffy high minded body building jerk is not my idea of happiness. Raw is peace.
healthy? you look like you just got out of auschwitz. doesn't seem healthy to me, champ. pale, fragile and sickly looking. and as for Mark Handy the "bodybuilder" quote unquote. lol. he's nowhere near a bodybuilder. Arnold took shits that were bigger than that guy. please.
@hXcDiedWithHitler Interesting observation considering when I shot that video my vitamin D levels were within their proper range, I hadn't been sick in a couple of years and was perfectly within my BMI. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but yours appears to be based on maliciously cutting me down. As for Mark, the camera angle and the way he was sitting isn't the best in that regard. No where has it been said that he's a professional bodybuilder so comparing him to Arnold is ridiculous.
@hXcDiedWithHitler "you look like you just got out of auschwitz... Arnold took shits that were bigger than that guy. please." this makes you look like a trolling loser.
5:11 - low fruit low glycemic?! Every whole fresh fruit except watermelon and pineapple have a low to medium GI....
How much calories was he eating on 801010? I too would experience those symptoms if I was eating only 2000 calories (as in daily meal plans in 80/10/10) , let alone for a 190 lb man like him... Please let me know some objective information what and how much he ate on 801010, thankyou.
@Eromulex Average for someone in a weight room but he's bigger and much more defined than most guys i have met in day to day life. Keep in mind your watching this on a youtube video.
@Eromulex I'd say a little above average. BUT that's not all muscle. There's water retention(compare to Dr Graham), and fat (see his waste at right of screen at 8:20) and his muscle is probably "marbled".
I'm interested in the idea of low cal, but what he said about 811 discredits what he has to say
@peterhejlejensen Modern medicine has nothing to it's credit for extending life expectancy except in delaying death for those who have not taken care of themselves through life. Sanitation and better standards of living (money) are what have brought humans out of the dark ages of only living to be 35-40.
In the longevity pockets of the world (Okinawa, Sardinia, Ikaria to name a few) many people live to be 90+ and they only recently had access to the useless advances in "modern" medicine.
"Hi Mark, I was referred to your contact info by Zak, in regard to an interview you did on YouTube in which you claimed association between your fruit diet and diabetes. There were questions about whether you were diagnosed with diabetes or what fruit you attribute to diabetes, etc. I think it is an important topic considering the diabetes epidemic. Thanks."
I'm also curious about why he lacked energy from fruit and how integrating bee pollen helps diabetes.
@Chrisisms I hope he can get back to you soon. I know for certain that he went on a retreat recently (started on or slightly after New Years) and I believe it was at least a week or so.
Fruit is inversely associated w/diabetes Prev Med Jan 2001
5:08 "..started implementing a low fruit, low glycemic diet.."
J Nutr. 2009 Sep;139(9):1794S-800S. "fruits contain numerous polyphenols, potentially reducing hyperglycemia, improving beta-cell function and protecting against beta-cell loss with low GI and GL and may provide benefits to diabetics"
"Higher Protein Intake Is Associated with Diabetes" Nutrition, Vol. 29, No. 2, 130-135 (2010)
@Chrisisms At 3:34 Mark is referring to how he was following a very high fruit diet, the journal of preventative medicine doesn't look into that because no studies that I'm aware of have ever been done on Fruitarians. No one is saying go off all fruit for the rest of your life.
Dr. Gabriel Cousens has shown quite clearly with his work at the Tree of Life Centre that diabetes is treatable, but it requires going on a no sugar diet for a up to two years.
Which is why I'm suspicious about the quality of fruit intake in his diet. The skins contain more polyphenols inversely related to diabetes and fruit generally has low GI.
"journal of preventative medicine doesn't look into that"
So high fruit would reduce diabetes even more?
"no studies that I'm aware of have ever been done on Fruitarians"
So no study has shown 'fruitarians' are more prone to diabetes. By what mode of action does fruit cause diabetes?
@Chrisisms Yes and he consumes plenty of berries for that reason. The fruitarian community is generally big on high GI foods such as dates, bananas, pineapple, watermelon etc. High fruit diets can exacerbate both types of diabetes in some people yet I am aware of some centers (located in Mexico) that use high fruit to reverse type 2 (in those who do well on a high carb diet, about 1/3 of the population), but don't do much for type 1.
consuming excess sugar over long periods of time causes AGEs:
"he consumes plenty of berries..The fruitarian community is generally big on high GI foods such as dates, bananas, pineapple, watermelon etc."
Oh, he was following convention of 'The fruitarian community'. Watermelons and bananas do have higher GI. Berries but not bananas (starches) are succulent fruit.
"High fruit diets can exacerbate both types of diabetes"
Some. The worst GI fruits, which for some reason were concentrated in Mark's diet are exceptions to the low GI of varied/succulent fruit.
Dates are consumed worldwide and are a dietary staple for many Arabic people.
The mean glycemic indexes of the dates were 35.5, 49.7 and 30.5.
Dates can be classified as low glycemic index food items... the consumption of the 3 varieties of dates tested in this study may be of benefit in glycemic and lipid control of diabetic patients. Saudi Med J. 2002 May;23(5):536-8. Glycemic index of 3 varieties of dates.
I didn't say you centered your diet around dates... I don't see how Mark's or your limitation of dates is relevant to the available evidence showing dates are low on the glycemic index. Mark claimed he was almost diabetic with his fruitarian diet. How? Was he diagnosed as prediabetic? Cooked food (not dates) is correlated with diabetes. Are these sensitive/uncomfortable questions?
@Chrisisms They're not sensitive questions, they're just a bit nitpicky. Citing a bunch of studies as if that is a way of disproving Mark's personal experience with any one food or type of diet is short sighted. I have his website in the info section of this video and it's obviously best that you contact him personally with your questions as I'm not Mark.
Mark Handy zeigt uns zwar seinen auf einmal um 50 Pfund schwereren Körper mit massigeren Muskeln. Doch basiert dieses Muskelwachstum, vor allem darauf, dass er statt Rohkost auch Nahrungsergänzungsmittel aß.Nahrungsergänzungsmittel sind aufgrund ihrer devitalisierenden Eigenschaften (keine Rohkost, unnatürliche Verabeitung, dehydriert, konzentriert) vom Körper mit Wasser zu neutralisieren, was die Muskeln massiger aussehen läßt.Jericho Sunfire Videos beschreiben dies ausführlich und glaubhaft.
Greenfullworld 1 day ago
Low calorie body building. I don't think so Tim.
604josh 5 days ago
I got an idea: What if I turn vegan from now on. My body will start to turn weaker and weaker every day, but still for a few weeks I would be the most ripped vegan "bodybuilder" on the whole goddamn planet.
And I'm not even big for a meat-eater. But seriously, show me ONE ripped (which means big AND lean) vegan dude.
TheFreshbum 1 week ago
@TheFreshbum watch?v=bx_aAjxEHLw
all this dude has in one day is fresh air, water, 2 medium sized smoothies with a bit of digestive enzymes + vegan protein powder, and a salad + vegan deserts here and there... not many calories at all
easy fruits to digest and for blending would be: grapes, berries, and mangoes
this is good because mangoes and berries are sold frozen all year round and the frozen cubed mangoes are easy to toss in a blender
some cane sugar in water helps as well
aquatiger1987 1 week ago
@TheFreshbum also, I've tried stuffing my face full of a trillion fruit calories, it just doesn't work, yah gotta do what the dude in the video I posted says and go easy on the digestive system in order to absorb all the nutrients. I'm someone who becomes underweight if I eat 9 donuts a day, 2 pizzas, pasta, whey protein shakes with honey, etc (up to 6000 calories per day). Yet if I have under 2000 calories/day with this dudes method I stay at a good weight.
aquatiger1987 1 week ago
@TheFreshbum Isn't Avi R. Lehyani Vegan?
crunchysid225 4 days ago
Does he drink wheatgrass juice daily as Hippocrates recommends?
jhsnowboard 1 month ago
The key thing is that people on raw food have a lot less body fat, but denser more solid muscle - so the power to weight ratio goes up and they look skinnier
paulomellettski 1 month ago
@paulomellettski Also Mark isn't just all raw food he's VERY LITTLE raw food as well.
Myflesh101 4 weeks ago
That's a bodybuilder?
betterwithbo 1 month ago
@betterwithbo Your not getting the significance of someone on this type of diet looking as big as he does, many people on the same diet would look emaciated, thats the whole point of this unique video, the guy barely eats anything including protein & carbs. Have You seen most people living on a very sparse raw veggie diet? If he ate meat he'd probably be dramatically bigger but he chooses to eat in this minimalist way and he still looks good. Some eat all day and are still skinny
Myflesh101 4 weeks ago
Sorry, but he's not a true vegan if he's eating bee products.
dusagie 1 month ago
@dusagie You missed the point of the video smart ass.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
he looks like iggy pop without the energy
ghodium 1 month ago
@ghodium You mean without the coke.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 month ago
@SecretsOfLongevity even nowadays iggy seems very energised, but i suspect it is nothing stronger than caffeine nowadays
ghodium 1 month ago
...bodybuilder eh? Looks like an average healthy guy that doesn't lift weights.
leftwingnazi 2 months ago
@leftwingnazi Not many raw foodists are able to put this much weight on and looking at his before and after pictures show's a lot of progress.
SecretsOfLongevity 2 months ago
@leftwingnazi are you serious? is it really possible to not recognize trained muscles like the one shown here? that's pretty surprising! i wonder if it is hollywood and co. who spread the pictures of unnatural musclemass like the ones of steroid users in our heads.
schrebnock 1 month ago
@schrebnock As a novice bodybuilder myself, I would not make the assumption this guy trains with weights. I would think he was healthy and fit due to doing some physical activities like hiking or some other sport. He's not particularly lean being around 14 percent body fat. And he has average muscle composition. Not hard to recognize at all.
leftwingnazi 1 month ago
@leftwingnazi Not everyone ends up at 250+ when they train, and again Mark here is eating a very low calorie ALL RAW VEGAN diet. Most huge bodybuilders are eating lots of calories and protein, this is the difference and this is what is to be recognized by this video, not that he's packing unusual size for an average bodybuilder. He is not average he is an extremely low calorie, low protein bodybuilder. Who understands this besides me?
Myflesh101 4 weeks ago
@Myflesh101 I do and that's why I wanted to interview him, although I wouldn't consider his diet low protein when he takes up to 3 scoops of sunwarrior protein a day, 1 litre of raw milk (new addition to his diet) and around 1 litre of green juice as well.
SecretsOfLongevity 4 weeks ago
@SecretsOfLongevity I know You do Zak hahhaaa some of the most well researched and open minded info I've seen anywhere! Still pretty moderate on protein (hovering around 100 grams, 32 now from animal) compared to some of the gigantic bodybuilders some are referring to who do anywhere from 200-600 and beyond grams of animal protein. Cool to hear the new info about the addition of raw milk, has he gained more since doing this? Thanks again for this interview, it always fascinates me.
Myflesh101 4 weeks ago
@Myflesh101 He's gained strength but not size as he's super focused on building his raw chocolate bar business. I know he get's well over 100 grams of protein per day that's for sure.
SecretsOfLongevity 4 weeks ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Good to know on the protein. How many calories rough estimate does Mark do, if you know? Was gonna ask you how your own diet/lifestyle has been going but I should check your new vids first.
Myflesh101 4 weeks ago
@Myflesh101 You'd have to ask him, I haven't spoken to him in awhile.
SecretsOfLongevity 4 weeks ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Thanks for the reply & latest info;)
Myflesh101 4 weeks ago
@Myflesh101 So let me be clear. You're trying to define a guy who look healthy but totally average as a bodybuilder? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to say that he works out? This guy is not a bodybuilder. For a vegan on a low calorie diet he's not very lean either. He looks to be around 15% bodyfat. Which is again - average.
leftwingnazi 3 weeks ago
@leftwingnazi Have U studied other very-low calorie low protein, low carb, raw food people who work out? Do You have a reference for this? Your comparing him to others on a very different diet, or people who have the kind of genetics that are monsters no matter what they eat or who eat meat, your not seeing the uniqueness of this lifestyle. Most people on this same diet are like sticks(100-140 lbs).See part 2, he says all he does are a green drink,a salad and a little chia seeds.
Myflesh101 3 weeks ago
@leftwingnazi So we could debate the semantics of what "bodybuilder" for you it might mean any one 220 lbs & up and maybe thats a good definition for someone whos not eating very little calorie,protein & carbohydrate wise.Many"bodybuilders"You speak of are eating 3000-6000 or more calories and 200-500 grams of protein depending on genetics.So it's all relative.But obviously this is not a video about gigantic mass bodybuilding, never claimed to be.Hes still building his body though.
Myflesh101 3 weeks ago
@leftwingnazi But if You don't take the extremely low calorie vegan(at the time of the video) diet hes on and compare it to the majority of most people doing a similar diet then there is no point to this video. He could be MUCH bigger if he wanted, just throw in some meat and more calories. He chooses this approach at the expense of being more massive, this is how some yogis eat and most of them are sticks.
Myflesh101 3 weeks ago
@leftwingnazi There are numerous people doing fairly high calorie raw food diets with lots of carbs, do you know what they look like? And I don't know who you hang out with but the average person doesn't have chiseled, obviously trained muscled that have shape to them. The average person has far less shape or is straight up fat. I am a massage therapist and I see alot of average people and they aren't very sculpted. You talkin about the "average" ATHLETE?
Myflesh101 3 weeks ago
@Myflesh101 You're right on this point. American's have set the "average" bar way higher in fat ratio than it's supposed to be. What I mean is average in the context of bodyfat percentage most males are supposed to be at to be healthy. Like I said, he looks about 15% body fat which is what doctors describe as average. Chiseled is a bit of an exaggeration friend. As I said, he looks healthy and active.. I wouldn't describe him as a bodybuilder at all.
leftwingnazi 3 weeks ago
@leftwingnazi Gotta admit if I had a video on myself in a similar circumstance I would title it perhaps "interview with Low Calorie Raw Vegan Athlete" "Bodybuilding" is a much more controversial term which invites scrutiny.When I was 220 of mostly muscle at 6 foot I didn't refer to myself as a bodybuilder,I would want to be about 240 to put that label on myself.I'm still VERY impressed with what Mark accomplished, while staying true to his dietary discipline/views and compassion.
Myflesh101 3 weeks ago
@leftwingnazi As far as bodyfat goes have You seen Ronnie Coleman or Lee Priest in the off-season? These are some of the top bodybuilders(to mention a couple) in history and they are staight up fat at times when they are not in a contest(complete with man-boobs) it does not mean they are not bodybuilders when they have the extra fat on them.
Myflesh101 3 weeks ago
@Myflesh101 The objective of a bodybuilder is to be lean at some point. If this guy were ripped like 6% body fat he would probably be 155 pounds. Hardly body builder size mass. I'll give him credit that he looks good for a vegan. I wouldnt have the drive to workout as I do eating that clean, that low in calories, and with the limited choices. I'll keep my meat, fruit and vegetable diet.
leftwingnazi 3 weeks ago
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EvoExpress 2 months ago
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EvoExpress 2 months ago
@EvoExpress If you ACTUALLY read a few books on physiology instead of talking about reading them and trying to act like an arrogant know-it-all you'd know that fatty acids are used as fuel and never turn into glucose. You'd also know that they're turned into ketones. Protein can be converted to glucose, yes.
"Living on chocolate, supplements and oils" Mark eats much more than this, obviously your listening skills need to be improved.
SecretsOfLongevity 2 months ago
@EvoExpress Lol keep fooling yourself thinking everyone fits into your narrow paradigm of diet.
SecretsOfLongevity 2 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Sorry :-d LoL, I was actually thinking you will throw in a few books and links, what can be furtherly discussed in defense of your statements. Anyways :-D Thanks
EvoExpress 2 months ago
Imagine going 100% carnivore.
daniel987878 2 months ago
@daniel987878 lol
1ghostronin 2 months ago
@AnatomicalALIGNMENT hey thanks!! i actually watch all but be your potential. Dan the man was my first and still greatest teacher*online that is, never met him YET.
benjorgensen1 2 months ago
can you please tell me if and where i can get more info about Mark Handy and his specific diet philosophies? i would like to try some of the things he mentions. other helpful ideas would be great as well. i am also interested in knowing how he has gotten so fit with that diet! not that i think it's hard at all, just that i would love to do it. thanks so much for your time!
benjorgensen1 2 months ago
@benjorgensen1 Watch part 2 we cover everything in the video. Mark doesn't have an online presence really.
SecretsOfLongevity 2 months ago
People seem to go from high fruit diets to low fruit diet extremes --- what's wrong with just eating a balanced raw diet: fruits, vegetables, dark leafy greens, nuts, seeds, and sprouts?
stormtalifero 3 months ago
@stormtalifero I have no idea for most people Storm! I know that in Mark's case that he had specific issues that he had to deal with that required going very low sugar for awhile. I know for sure now that he is eating a lot more berries and various types of fruits (although generally no bananas, dates, mangoes etc) and some sprouted grains and sprouted flatbreads.
SecretsOfLongevity 3 months ago
@stormtalifero
you are a LEGEND dude !!!!! much respect to you, just curious have you ever experimented with Fasting ?
your example and long Life experience in this area of Vegan food and health is POWERFUL and Fantastic . im curious, Whats your Opinion of David Wolfe and all those super expensive Supplements and Dead packaged food he sells in Cans, bottles, pills etc. ?
thanks bro
AnatomicalALIGNMENT 2 months ago
@wawei67 This isn't Mark's youtube channel, that's why it says interview in the title. Some people include bee products in the term vegan other's don't. The point of the title is to demonstrate where the majority of his calories come from. If he wasn't eating the pollen it would not have made that much of a difference to his results.
SecretsOfLongevity 3 months ago
None of this makes sense to me. I lift and eat loads of fruit-no problems, and I know many others who do as well. There is a missing link here that is not being told or is not known. I am really glad this guy is doing better, but honestly this sounds more like one person's bodily dysfunction vs. the diet. 9,000 calories a day and loosing weight? That is not the food...that is something your body is not doing. In good science we say correlative is not causation. Thanks for sharing.
victorbigdipper 3 months ago 2
he does look a lot more buff than the other vegans. at least he has some "meat" on him ;) lol the other vegans look sickly, almost like the jews from nazi germany, really really sad. i'm trying to convince myself to switch to this raw diet, but I really don't want to look sick and disgusting.
fcarabat 3 months ago
Hippocrates have people they can't heal on their fruitphobic diet and Robert Morse ND often gets them healed in 6 months, on fruit and herbs.
They just focus on blood, not lymph
The reason, i guess, why he had his trouble on fruit was poor digestion [perhaps pancreas, maybe just the gutwall malfunctioning] and weak kidneys.. both caused by "interstitial lympathic constipation", clogged acidic lymph between the cells, from SAD and "bodybuilding" high protein diet. If he'd used the right herbs..
danielskipp1 4 months ago
@danielskipp1 Lol... nice try but that's not it.
SecretsOfLongevity 4 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity
Lol! don't blind us with your science, SecretsOfLongevity.. your logic is brutally crushing my point.
say.. compared to Morse's record of curing [helping their bodies to heal themselves], 100000+ people over 40 years of all manner of incurable "diseases" and regenerating tissue, even whole bones like vertebrae, what is your clinical record?
I won't hold my breath because i strongly suspect you don't even have a clinical practice.
you are out of your depth
danielskipp1 4 months ago
@danielskipp1 Lol, there are quite a few people who have problems with 80/10/10. I've done several colon and liver cleanses and still had really bad gas on 80/10/10. Dr. McDougal's starch diet works best for me. I never calorie restrict nor do I overeat. You have to realize that everyone is different and that some diet might be good for one person, but absolutely horrible for another. Everyones different thats why there are diets like 80/10/10, paleo, mcdougal's diet, dr. furhman's diet, etc.
HrapovikPlush 4 months ago
@HrapovikPlush
you mistake me for someone who promotes 80/10/10. I did not.
I promote Morse's detox diet: raw ripe fresh fruit and herbs and veg if necessary. No proteins.
Did you do kidney cleanses? Adrenal herbal healing? Detox where you always pee acidic lymph? It takes time to heal decades of starch-binging, but i guess you are more comfortable on a "diet", not detoxing for full healing.
Starch from grain is for birds. Spuds are acidifying.. rice is glue. Good luck with your choices.
danielskipp1 4 months ago
ok so where is the bodybuilder un this video? :S
temmy69 4 months ago 2
The only food dense in calories that he eats is seeds, so seeds is his priarly food for obtain calories, so he is eating tremendous amounts of FAT,SO LIKE ALL THE EXPERTS IN THE WORLD SAYS: THAT IS A VERY UNHEALTHY DIET. That is why he have some fat like he says, specially in his waist. But very interesting interview!
adrygarcia 5 months ago
@adrygarcia He doesn't have fat around his waist, fat is NOT unhealthy and he get's most of his calories from carbs and protein. He eats a wide variety of berries, some sprouted grain wraps and tons of greens, sprouts and algar which are up to 40% protein. A couple of tablespoons of chia seed and an avocado here and there will not be a huge amount of calories from fat.
SecretsOfLongevity 5 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity About his waist, sorry about my coment, was the posture and the pants that seems. and yes if he eats like that is clearly low fat. I don't say that fat is unhealthy, but too much fat is bad, is better a diet low in fat, even the hypocrates diet recomends low fat.
By the way, many people think that 25% of your calories from fat is too much fat, what is your opinion?? how percentage of fat you eat approximately?
adrygarcia 5 months ago
@adrygarcia I've addressed this in my video series on animal foods. There is absolutely nothing harmful in fats unless they're polyunsaturated because they oxidize inside of the body quicker. The Hippocrates diet is medium fat.
SecretsOfLongevity 5 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity ok, thanks, but polyunsaturated are harmful??, the essential fatty acids are omega 3, and omega 6, boths are polyinsaturated!!!!
adrygarcia 5 months ago
@adrygarcia Yeah but we don't need massive amounts of them. We evolved on a high saturated and monounsaturated fat diet.
SecretsOfLongevity 5 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity thanks for the information, It's true, we need very small porcions, even we can get omega 3 & omega 6 from vegetables and fruits, that is the best way to get them because they're the only foods that contain the essential fatty acids with the best RATIO for the human body (about 1:1). Grains, avocados, nuts or seeds have to much omega 6 vs omega 3.
But almost there is no sources of mono fats that don't have also poly fats, I can't understand this point, explain me please.
adrygarcia 5 months ago
@adrygarcia I'll do a Q&A on my understanding of fats sometime soon :)
SecretsOfLongevity 5 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity ok, great! I need that!,
by the way, last question :), do you think that a 100% vegan diet well structured can be healthy?
adrygarcia 5 months ago
@adrygarcia Nope.
SecretsOfLongevity 5 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity ok, I realize that years ago you think that vegan diet is healthy and now you discovered that is unhealthy, I can see this just reading coments of you in youtube years ago saying that all nutrients are in plants or reading in your website similar thing, even you say in your website that Brian Clement or Gabriel Cousens will most live very long lives.
adrygarcia 5 months ago
@adrygarcia I say most likely, not certainly that they'll live long lives. I think their diet is extremely healthy, but there's better things available that they're closed off to.
SecretsOfLongevity 5 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity SO PLEASE , BECAUSE IS SUPER IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE KNOW THE TRUE WITH NO CONFUSIONS:
YOU HAVE TO ELIMINATE THAT COMENTS AND ALL THE CONTRATICTORY MATERIAL THAT YOU HAVE, PLEASE.
adrygarcia 5 months ago
@adrygarcia PLEASE SORRY ABOUT MY COMENT, I RESPECT YOU SO MUCH, YOUR WEBSITE AND CHANNEL IT'S FANTASTIC, ONLY HATRED THAT PEOPLE CONTRADICT THEMSELVES, BECAUSE THIS CAUSES THAT I CANNOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING OF THE LONGEVITY...
adrygarcia 5 months ago
@adrygarcia I won't be eliminating anything.
SecretsOfLongevity 5 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity ok
adrygarcia 5 months ago
Does he drink coffee?
mrseanrog 5 months ago
@mrseanrog most likely not, as im sure he is aware that coffee is a poison and is as far from raw as it gets.
benjorgensen1 4 months ago
I see where Mark is coming from. I was on the 80/10/10 for a while and the whole "stuff it your fruit in and your stomach will stretch" mentality is ridiculous. At least 1/4 of the stomach must be empty for food to get properly digested and absorbed. I was getting a lot of gas when overeating fruit. Stretching your stomach definitely doesn't seem natural. 80/10/10 is definitely not for everyone. Although I was following 80/10/10 to the letter, I found out it wasnt for me.
IronCobra22 5 months ago
@IronCobra22 Interesting, I just sent you a personal message with a question.
SecretsOfLongevity 5 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Im a vegan as well, I have no health problems! I lost 40LB Gluten dairy and sugar is poison! People and society are so brainwashed and stubborn, they will tell you, you cant live of of plants! You will die! What Bullshit! Every kid today has add, asthma, allergies! and people have cancer because of Toxic food chemo and drugs! Peace and love man!
5tonyvvvv 5 months ago
Why are people so ignorant and unwilling to learn something new? T.T
maxwellpassion 5 months ago
This dude just overeats fats , offcourse u can become big
Marraudor 6 months ago
Lol he isn't a body builder lol check out vegan boy that's a vegan body builder
pavy415 6 months ago
@pavy415 No one's claiming he's a professional bodybuilder, but he did put on 50 pounds of muscle using bodybuilding techniques. He lifts weights the way bodybuilders do, not the way Olympic lifters do and not the ways strongman competition guys do and he's not training mostly calisthenics for martial arts, so he's a bodybuilder. Your mind is stuck on a specific look. Mark's goals are health and to be bigger then the average, not to be so jacked he can't tie his own shoes.
SecretsOfLongevity 6 months ago 2
@SecretsOfLongevity I'm sorry, but there is no way that is 50 pounds of muscle that he gained. I would say 10 pounds of muscle, tops.
0ddzZz 6 months ago 2
@0ddzZz He went from 137 or so to 190 pounds, do you not know basic math? Call him up yourself and inquire if you want to. His email and phone number is on his website that I posted in the drop down menu.
SecretsOfLongevity 6 months ago 2
@SecretsOfLongevity no need to lie bro. 50lb of muscle? Get real.
604josh 5 months ago
@0ddzZz course it could be. muscle density and its relation to weight means theirs no way anyone could say it is, or is not based on a video. however to say that it looks more like ten pounds is just silly.
jammatoonarmy 5 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity if he doesn't compete he's not a bodybuilder. He's a weightlifter
jkininji 5 months ago
@pavy415 He looks great in my opinion, not as big as a meat/dairy eater, but have You realized how little he eats? Do You realize the significant of that? No one that I have seen eating that little is as big and toned as he is. But yeah if You compare him to a pro bodybuilder, then Your not getting the point of this video. Actually part 2 tells You how very little he eats now.
Myflesh101 5 months ago
@pavy415 I haven't seen anyone 180 lbs eating just a green smoothie and a salad a day, have You? Thats what sets this video apart. I looked up "Vegan Boy", couldn't find anything. Do You mean "Raw Nature Boy"? Most raw bodybuilders eat quite a bit of food.
Myflesh101 5 months ago
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Myflesh101 5 months ago
Do you consume any protein powder? Whey for example?
stackedhippiechick 6 months ago
this guy here works out but i would not put him near the word "bodybuilder", i think much better example is Albert Beckles, he is vegetarian not vegan but its in this case the same thing, both dont eat nothing from any kind of animal
TetrapakProdzekt 7 months ago
as a vegan christian for the last 25 years i have dedicated my body to JESUS CHRIST i live upstate ny summer time i am raw fruit winter i willhave whole wheat pasts or baked potato 2 years ago i FASTED 51 days 21 on juice 30 on water did not JESUS fast our body is GODS temple not some stupid BUILDING look at these so called GLUTTON preachers on tv if you want to read about the REAL JESUS type in THE ESSENE GOSPEL OF PEACE takeing care of yourbody is good i just take it a step further A EHERT
healthyone100 7 months ago
@healthyone100 Tourrette's.
whaaaaateverful 7 months ago
as a vegan christian
healthyone100 7 months ago
Did he say "sleep a lot"? Well obviously if that's the case Raw Food is not the thing to do if you want to be more energized, needing lesser sleep etc.
neopogos 8 months ago
@neopogos If you're an athlete or exercise to any degree you need sleep to repair muscle. I don't care what you eat, if you try to cut back on sleep you'll heal and repair yourself much slower. Raw Food is not supposed to make you have less sleep, those that promote that don't realize how important sleep is for your health.
SecretsOfLongevity 8 months ago 8
@ChronicFatigueSyn The ones I link to in the description box below the video. They're called HHIzymes which is the Hippocrates Health Institute's enzymes. They are high in protein digesting enzymes which most digestive enzymes are low in because they're pricier. They'll ensure tons of amino acids flood your muscles if you're on a good workout program.
SecretsOfLongevity 8 months ago
I heard most Mr Olympia's actually eat 900calories a day. Thats a cup of nuts.
durianriders 9 months ago
@durianriders Probably more like 9000... and it's definitely not just nuts :p
SecretsOfLongevity 9 months ago 7
Alright, thanks Zak. That does make sense to me, but overall energy wise I just felt bogged and was wondering how you managed to do it. What's always gotten me was how Brian Clement says he was at 120 and just started working out to put on weight. Is that even possible? I know very little about him and would love to hear your opinion on that. Also, any advice on getting more grounded through food? Or having better focus? Animals and onions help, but I'm looking to get my face back...haha
TheCaseyInman 9 months ago
@TheCaseyInman I'm pretty certain Brian was down to 120 when the Hippocrates program included a lot of fruit and raw honey etc. You need the building blocks as well as the work to put on muscle. On the HHI program yes you use more than someone gorging on meat and carbs. Animal products are definitely grounding, I wouldn't call onions grounding however, nor for focus. Greens help most people increase clear thinking and to feel grounded and calm. Fats will build your face back up too.
SecretsOfLongevity 9 months ago
Can I get away with weight gain on two large meals a day? I was doing 4 meals a day, and gaining weight, but it kinda messed with my digestion. I find 2 or 3 meals a day makes me gave way more energy and feel less "bogged." I'm at 141-144ish now 5' 10" and I'd love to pack on a bit more muscle I just don't feel I can eat that much. Did you find it comfortable to eat that much during your strength training?
TheCaseyInman 9 months ago
@TheCaseyInman If you're addressing me, Zak, then I'd say if 2-3 meals a day works best for you do it. Most bodybuikding programs emphasize 5-6 SMALL meals a day (much bigger if you're already like 200lbs). The reason frequent eating helps with weight training is that you have a constant flow of calories and protein into the body so metabolism stays high. Less meals means you probably won't have as explosive growth but it is healthier IMO.
SecretsOfLongevity 9 months ago
@TheCaseyInman I think on a raw vegan diet bloating/indigestion are inevitable, you're gona feel bogged down no matter what eating pattern you chose
frodosauce 7 months ago
The guy looked insanely healthy when he was skinny. I wish I could look like that.
zigzigerblat 9 months ago
@RomneyPHONY You're beginning to sound like someone else here on youtube who seems to have a personal vendetta against DW. Of course David can lift 50 pounds over his head and he can do pushups and run fine. He's not an endurance athlete but he's far from not being able to do anything. If you're going to continue bad mouthing him on my channel I'll have to start deleting comments. That's not what my channel is for.
SecretsOfLongevity 10 months ago
@RomneyPHONY I am familiar with him and he has great maximal body strength (but horrible form for that 1 arm pushup I must say!). 5 years is the blink of an eye, please search "the fruitarian myth" on youtube here and watch my video series on why fruitarianism is unsustainable. Tim is doing great, yeah, as are many other athletes. He would do better if he added more nuts and seeds or a little bit of meat into his diet.
SecretsOfLongevity 10 months ago
@RomneyPHONY He was eating enough greens.
SecretsOfLongevity 10 months ago
@RomneyPHONY He'd do better with a little more protein.There is no protein myth, we need medium to large amounts of it to be successful in the long term. Fruitarians start to lose their hair and get bad skin etc from a number of deficiencies, protein being one of them. Some people can "get by" for longer than others as people's protein needs varies, but less than 10% of your total caloric intake as protein is not healthy.
SecretsOfLongevity 10 months ago
vaporsofgold 10 months ago
@vaporsofgold While I respect some of those people, some are complete frauds. What's the point in posting what you have? Show us some results of your "nothing but mental attitude" and put on some muscle.
SecretsOfLongevity 10 months ago
Too bad he blew the fruit diet, 99% chance he was not eating enough calories. Now he looks bloated.
mikecazzx 11 months ago
@mikecazzx He definitely didn't "blow" the diet, it's a bad diet to begin with. He's not bloated at all, your perception is blinded by dogma.
SecretsOfLongevity 10 months ago
If Mark is using bee pollen then he's not a vegan. Bee Pollen is not a vegan food. Each piece of bee pollen contains honey thereby making it non vegan.
rawmark 11 months ago
@rawmark Different people have different opinions on that, so there is no exact definition.
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Actually, your response is incorrect. Anyone who is a vegan for ethical reasons and has been a vegan for ten years or more will tell you that bee pollen is not vegan. Someone who has been vegan for less than ten years and has not done their research will assume the claims made by most websites that bee pollen is vegan, even after all of the facts have come through. However, if you doubt my claim the do a search on the properties of bee pollen and you'll have your answer.
rawmark 11 months ago
When you have your eyes opened to 'the raw' everything changes. Walking in the grocery store I could smell the fried chicken and craved it oh so much. Then I said why would I eat that? Before going raw I could not smell anymore along with many other health issues. I am very aware now of the lies and the dumbing down of society. The drug we are doped on called bread, cheese and meat. Yes we slow down because we are not on the high of food. We are more calm and the way we were meant to be!
MormonManUtah 11 months ago
you will live 1000 years with raw food ......me mabe 60 with what i eat BUT I WILL DIE HAPPY
mentallystressed 11 months ago
@mentallystressed You could relieve your mental stress by eating raw. Seriously though have you ever watched someone die of cancer? It is hell. You won't die happy unless it is by a bus or a heart attack during the night. Unless you have eaten raw you can't know what you are missing. Ever wonder why so many people are going raw? It is a revolution not a fad. It is because they enjoy the euphorias, well being, productivity, clear skin and not being generally angry and jacked up 24/7.
MormonManUtah 11 months ago
@MormonManUtah i eat healthy ( raw vegetables, but i cook meet ,egg, )
mentallystressed 11 months ago
good
read it and yhan we'll talk
and his thyroid is not fine
i did not "judge" by his accent but by the tone but by the slugginesh .
he is pale.does not look healthy
people go to extremes.some are macrobiotic and don't eat raw salads and fruits and only drink tea.so these people think they are going to have a macro life(long life) 100% raw eaters also are in a extreme and they also don't have a long life
Gasanov from Russia lived 155 years, was a very robust person ,never had doctor
igalflint 11 months ago
@igalflint The reason I'm laughing at your statement about Dr. Jensens books (which I'm sure are great) is that you seem to want to debate with me about my friends health when I clearly have stated both in the comments and in the video that you can contact my friend through his website with questions or comments. He's not going to respond here on youtube. As for Mark's skin tone, again you're judging him on a video clip at bad resolution when he's in the shade.
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
@igalflint ...this is Canada, we just start getting significant amounts of sunlight at the time of year this was recorded and posted. Mark's not extreme by any means. He gets regular bloodwork done, supplements accordingly and is by no means dogmatic about raw food. As for long lived raw foodists, of the top 8 longest lived cultures in the world, all of them have a descent amount of raw food in their diet and some of them (such as in Vilcabamba, Abkhasia and Hunza) eat over 50% raw foods.
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
my master,Dr Jensen, was in Vilcabamba an in Hunza land too.
when dealing with diet ,we have to incorporate factors such as, culture,tempo,soil, religion climate and altitude.do you know what is the altitude of this places? so do you think that a very,very high altitude can be a roll model for a diet followed in Canada?i've already explain you that raw foods have a lot of oxygen . they are called oxyferic foods and of course most needed in high altitudes.to much of it deranges the body
igalflint 11 months ago
@igalflint I welcome constructive criticism and evidence based debate on my channel, however it's apparent that you have some sort of a superiority complex going on and your motivation is to put others down without logic or any reasonable basis. I'm not here to waste my time trying to convince you of anything and I've mentioned a couple times that you can contact Mark at the link in the description box since you feel he is so unhealthy.
I block people for the above mentioned reasons.
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
raw foods are only a part of a healthy mode of living
six years is nothung in terms of time. in order for us to judge a diet i would say that we have to wait at least 20 years
six years is not even a sound begining
he talks as a drunk and as he has been really doing it for such a long time. as he was already a wise man with decades of practise and this not the case here!!!!!!!!
igalflint 11 months ago
@igalflint Not sure what you're going on about... he stilt eats a mostly raw foods diet. If someone is doing something and they are getting sick, losing tons of weight and/or not getting the results they desire, it would be absolutely insane to try and force it to work for 20 years.
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
I was a discipule of Bernard Jensen
this 6 year old vegan's voice is sluggish . Maybe he also has a weak thyroid gland
anyhow ,he is not simmetric, his trunk is small compared to his big biceps
he also said that he doesn1t like trainning his legs.it happens a lot when one lacks essencial nutrients in the body.
going through mostly a raw food diet is not such a wise thing as some people insist
read the chapter of Oxygen in the Chemestry of Man of Dr Jensen
Read about Nytrogen also
igalflint 11 months ago
@igalflint He trains his legs fine. Understand that you're watching a video... you have not met him in real life. Can you not see he's sitting on an angle and leaning over? Of course he doesn't appear perfectly symmetrical, it's called physics. If you'd like to meet him contact him at his website. As for his voice, judging people by their accent has been done for ages and can be a form of classism or other prejudice. His thyroid is fine.
Lol, I won't be reading Dr. Jensen's books anytime soon.
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
@igalflint Eating raw....no it is living a lifestyle in harmony with nature. This includes eating raw, moderate exercise (like an animal would), seeking positive people, places and things. If you eat raw and live like typical Americans, it won't work. Pick a side and go 100%. I am so sick of how meat, bread and cheese make me feel. If it makes you feel like crap, it is crap. Being a big puffy high minded body building jerk is not my idea of happiness. Raw is peace.
MormonManUtah 11 months ago
healthy? you look like you just got out of auschwitz. doesn't seem healthy to me, champ. pale, fragile and sickly looking. and as for Mark Handy the "bodybuilder" quote unquote. lol. he's nowhere near a bodybuilder. Arnold took shits that were bigger than that guy. please.
hXcDiedWithHitler 11 months ago
@hXcDiedWithHitler Interesting observation considering when I shot that video my vitamin D levels were within their proper range, I hadn't been sick in a couple of years and was perfectly within my BMI. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but yours appears to be based on maliciously cutting me down. As for Mark, the camera angle and the way he was sitting isn't the best in that regard. No where has it been said that he's a professional bodybuilder so comparing him to Arnold is ridiculous.
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
@SecretsOfLongevity
not trying to cut anyone down brah. just calling them how i see them.
hXcDiedWithHitler 11 months ago
@hXcDiedWithHitler "you look like you just got out of auschwitz... Arnold took shits that were bigger than that guy. please." this makes you look like a trolling loser.
SecretsOfLongevity 11 months ago
This video has helped clear away some of the confusion for me.
adastrarize 1 year ago
A lot of very deluded people here. I went vegan for twenty years before emerging from this state of mental illness.
Google orthorexia and you'll start to understand the syndrome.
wyeman999 1 year ago
5:11 - low fruit low glycemic?! Every whole fresh fruit except watermelon and pineapple have a low to medium GI....
How much calories was he eating on 801010? I too would experience those symptoms if I was eating only 2000 calories (as in daily meal plans in 80/10/10) , let alone for a 190 lb man like him... Please let me know some objective information what and how much he ate on 801010, thankyou.
FruitarianSwimster 1 year ago
@FruitarianSwimster You can contact him yourself through his website I link to below the video. I'm not him and so I can't answer that.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 year ago
that guy is not a bodybuilder,his physique is just average.
Eromulex 1 year ago
@Eromulex Average for someone in a weight room but he's bigger and much more defined than most guys i have met in day to day life. Keep in mind your watching this on a youtube video.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 year ago
@Eromulex I'd say a little above average. BUT that's not all muscle. There's water retention(compare to Dr Graham), and fat (see his waste at right of screen at 8:20) and his muscle is probably "marbled".
I'm interested in the idea of low cal, but what he said about 811 discredits what he has to say
Lets see him do "Doug's fitness stunts"
Gary1111001 1 year ago
50 lbs of muscle in six months? Not even humanly possible. All I can say to that is lolololol
MattGL21 1 year ago
@MattGL21 Yep. Also 50 lbs of muscle isn't what he LOST on 811; it what the water and fat he's since put on.
Gary1111001 1 year ago
@Gary1111001 You wish to keep your little paradigm intact.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 year ago
@SecretsOfLongevity Not sure what your talking about. I'll re-phrase:
You Do NOT Lose muscle on 811(I'm gaining); You Lose water and fat.
Gary1111001 1 year ago
@Gary1111001 Some people do.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 year ago
@MattGL21 Wade Lightheart's program has defied the norm for natural bodybuilders.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 year ago
The secret to longevity: Modern Medicin. It will triple your life expectency
peterhejlejensen 1 year ago
@peterhejlejensen Modern medicine has nothing to it's credit for extending life expectancy except in delaying death for those who have not taken care of themselves through life. Sanitation and better standards of living (money) are what have brought humans out of the dark ages of only living to be 35-40.
In the longevity pockets of the world (Okinawa, Sardinia, Ikaria to name a few) many people live to be 90+ and they only recently had access to the useless advances in "modern" medicine.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 year ago 2
I emailed Mark, seeking explanation:
"Hi Mark, I was referred to your contact info by Zak, in regard to an interview you did on YouTube in which you claimed association between your fruit diet and diabetes. There were questions about whether you were diagnosed with diabetes or what fruit you attribute to diabetes, etc. I think it is an important topic considering the diabetes epidemic. Thanks."
I'm also curious about why he lacked energy from fruit and how integrating bee pollen helps diabetes.
Chrisisms 1 year ago
@Chrisisms I hope he can get back to you soon. I know for certain that he went on a retreat recently (started on or slightly after New Years) and I believe it was at least a week or so.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 year ago
3:34 "..I was like borderline diabetic.."
Fruit is inversely associated w/diabetes Prev Med Jan 2001
5:08 "..started implementing a low fruit, low glycemic diet.."
J Nutr. 2009 Sep;139(9):1794S-800S. "fruits contain numerous polyphenols, potentially reducing hyperglycemia, improving beta-cell function and protecting against beta-cell loss with low GI and GL and may provide benefits to diabetics"
"Higher Protein Intake Is Associated with Diabetes" Nutrition, Vol. 29, No. 2, 130-135 (2010)
Chrisisms 1 year ago
@Chrisisms At 3:34 Mark is referring to how he was following a very high fruit diet, the journal of preventative medicine doesn't look into that because no studies that I'm aware of have ever been done on Fruitarians. No one is saying go off all fruit for the rest of your life.
Dr. Gabriel Cousens has shown quite clearly with his work at the Tree of Life Centre that diabetes is treatable, but it requires going on a no sugar diet for a up to two years.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 year ago
"he was following a very high fruit diet"
Which is why I'm suspicious about the quality of fruit intake in his diet. The skins contain more polyphenols inversely related to diabetes and fruit generally has low GI.
"journal of preventative medicine doesn't look into that"
So high fruit would reduce diabetes even more?
"no studies that I'm aware of have ever been done on Fruitarians"
So no study has shown 'fruitarians' are more prone to diabetes. By what mode of action does fruit cause diabetes?
Chrisisms 1 year ago
@Chrisisms Yes and he consumes plenty of berries for that reason. The fruitarian community is generally big on high GI foods such as dates, bananas, pineapple, watermelon etc. High fruit diets can exacerbate both types of diabetes in some people yet I am aware of some centers (located in Mexico) that use high fruit to reverse type 2 (in those who do well on a high carb diet, about 1/3 of the population), but don't do much for type 1.
consuming excess sugar over long periods of time causes AGEs:
SecretsOfLongevity 1 year ago
"he consumes plenty of berries..The fruitarian community is generally big on high GI foods such as dates, bananas, pineapple, watermelon etc."
Oh, he was following convention of 'The fruitarian community'. Watermelons and bananas do have higher GI. Berries but not bananas (starches) are succulent fruit.
"High fruit diets can exacerbate both types of diabetes"
Some. The worst GI fruits, which for some reason were concentrated in Mark's diet are exceptions to the low GI of varied/succulent fruit.
Chrisisms 1 year ago
"high GI foods such as dates"
Dates are consumed worldwide and are a dietary staple for many Arabic people.
The mean glycemic indexes of the dates were 35.5, 49.7 and 30.5.
Dates can be classified as low glycemic index food items... the consumption of the 3 varieties of dates tested in this study may be of benefit in glycemic and lipid control of diabetic patients. Saudi Med J. 2002 May;23(5):536-8. Glycemic index of 3 varieties of dates.
Chrisisms 1 year ago
@Chrisisms I sometimes eat dates, and I'm sure Mark does on occasion too. He just doesn't centre his diet around them and neither does any culture.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 year ago
I didn't say you centered your diet around dates... I don't see how Mark's or your limitation of dates is relevant to the available evidence showing dates are low on the glycemic index. Mark claimed he was almost diabetic with his fruitarian diet. How? Was he diagnosed as prediabetic? Cooked food (not dates) is correlated with diabetes. Are these sensitive/uncomfortable questions?
Am J Clin Nutr. 2010 May;91(5):1220-6. "high-heat-treated diet induced significantly lower insulin sensitivity"
Chrisisms 1 year ago
@Chrisisms They're not sensitive questions, they're just a bit nitpicky. Citing a bunch of studies as if that is a way of disproving Mark's personal experience with any one food or type of diet is short sighted. I have his website in the info section of this video and it's obviously best that you contact him personally with your questions as I'm not Mark.
SecretsOfLongevity 1 year ago