That shit is so small.. you have more carbon monoxide in the air from cars and trucks .. Do you think those measely little lines will have ANY effect on a population at all? It will disipate so fast that by the time it reaches you the PPM's (Parts Per Million) are so spread out it wont hurt you.. Quit snorting so much coke and getting paranoid.. smoke some weed and open your mind..
If contrails can't persist and spread and never have- why were they studying them 40yrs ago??- 100s more written since:
Measurements of the Growth of the Ice Budget in a Persisting Contrail
Knollenberg
Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences
October 1972
"It is often observed that contrails spread considerably...Under favorable conditions, a lateral spread of kilometers is observed...If sufficient air traffic exists, an entire overcast of contrail cirrus may develop and persist for hours."
I can't see any proof that chemtrails don't exist. We know contrails exist, so please think your arguments through before making yourself look stupid.
Ted Gunderson Is an American hero who served his countrymen/women for 40+ years, He told us all that these are death dumps and this is all about population control, CHEMTRAILS=DEPOPULATION, plain and simple. These bastard are killing our loved ones, we must do everything in our power to stop this. God bless you all and keep fighting the good fight!
Thanks for your Video! Keep up the Watch! People Look UP and Video whats ! Over YOUR city and upload to YouTube! ChemTrails are all over the World now, Take a look at my Videos over Minnesota USA! Thanks again, from -- ChemTrailsMN --
I was going to say where are the shills but i see them now , hey moron shill if you look at this and think it's normal YOU ARE DUMB AS FUCK PERIOD GET A LIFE TRAITOR!!!!!
@dan32749 People that make comments like that are just admitting that they don’t have any so-called “proof” of this conspiracy theory and have lost the debate. Thank you for admitting defeat.
Thanks for your Video! Keep up the Watch! People Look UP and Video whats ! Over YOUR city and upload to YouTube! ChemTrails are all over the World now, Take a look at my Videos over Minnesota USA! Thanks again, from -- ChemTrailsMN --
GOOD PEOPLE OF EARTH, FELLOW NEW YORKERS, USE A VAPORIZER or humidifier filled with vinegar and water outside your window and the FAKE clouds dissappear. It works, they come back and re-spray so leave your vaporizers on and keep refilling every couple of days. works in 15- 60 mins. FARMERS PLEASE PUT VINEGAR VAPORIZERS ON YOUR LAND TO BREAK UP THE FAKE CLOUDS. ITS CALLED ACID BASE REACTION. IT WORKS!!
the congress.. amd basically seize control of the government if the country goes into a emergency state as in the threat of a nuclear attack... 2012 is gunna be a rocky yeat
@chris arcen actually mate the uk government has admitted spraying the uk with bacteria in between the 40s and 70s.. wel may have dates wrong ..but the interview can be found on the guardian website and also the government said they were unqualified to answer questions about ongoing research... think u may be in denial.mate.... the NWO is coming open ya eyez.. reasearch about FEMA in the U.S and u will see that there is a group that are completely seperate from the government and can bypass
@furi0us06 Yes, and the U.S. government has admitted to releasing radiation onto a town to see what would happen to the people and to no big surprise most of the people ended up with cancer.
None of that has anything to do with the persistent contrails we see in the sky today.
who has a telescope that has a camera so we can get better photographic evidence, i.e., the aerosol canisters with the spray coming out? It would clear up some of the denial.
@factoredin Greg Orca trolls here too? Then onefourwhiskey won't be far away. Those wormfarms can't fart without the others giving them thumbs up...lol.
@hotchkissrecords is right. Read the patents, THEN APPLY OCCAM'S RAZOR. We are simply being chemtrailed. To say the MIC can't afford chemtrails is preposterous. We spend billions on war. Chemtrails are a drop in the bucket, and HAARP is widely used.
The question is not "if" there are chemtrails, the question is "why" chemtrails. There is a difference between persistent contrails and chemtrails. Those who so vigorously deny chemtrails are afraid of them being exposed. They will have to accept the responsibility that they tried to lead billions to their graves by minimizing the dangers of chemtrails. A topic that they were totally unqualified to speak on. To see that crap in the sky, and read numerous patents on it's usage verifies the evil.
A video of trails in the sky is not "proof" of anything except that there are trails in the sky. They are persistent contrails and they have been around for over 70 years. Here is a video that shows what we should be worried about instead of water vapor in the sky.
For any that truly want to get at the facts, and thus the truth, research should be done on SAG, (stratospheric aerosol geoengineering) and SRM, (solar radiation management).
@factoredin How should I know were anyone else is I am here stuck in my house because I have Epilepsy. They must be off explain reality to other people that need help understanding it.
@uglyrage They don't disappear, they dissipate. There is a difference. If you were to fly around in the sky through and below the contrails, and collect air samples, you could perform a chemical analysis on it if you want. Even if you can't see the contrail after a minute, if there are chemical particles in them, they would still be in the air at a lower density - a density which makes them not reflect and refract sunlight well enough to colour them white as in the video.
@uglyrage Of course, if you were to fly around and collect samples, you'd want to use a glider. The engine of an aeroplane may contaminate your sample.
@uglyrage AND you would also have to scientifically prove that the chemicals in the 'chemtrails' can influence a human being's (or at least a primate's) judgement... or whatever conspiracy theory you subscribe to and connect the potential existence of chemtrails to.
@BurritoBazooka Hit the science book... these have particles in them. It is an illegal geo-engineering project. Watch the doc, What in the World are They Spraying?
These videos are proof that a consensus of people have created a reality that invoves chemtrails, thousands of them....I would like to see all these thousands of people setup a HEPA filter and get an ICPMS (Inductively coupled plasma mass spectrometry) test done on the collected particulate.
What I don't understand about naysayers: They attack the methods (i.e. the patents involving methods of getting aluminum and barium into the air), yet they don't mind the simple fact that some people have even attempted this & WANT to do this. Nor do they mind that the levels of aluminum and barium in the air and soil ARE ALREADY beyond levels requiring government action. No, they just argue that you can't put aluminum in fuel. No shit. That's not the only patent attempting this. WAKE UP!!!
@ChrisArcen I WILL REPEAT WHAT I STATED BEFORE ON THE SAME COMMENT!! THE PATENTS INVOLVING CHEMTRAILS BEGAN IN THE 20's, SO IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE THAT THEY'VE BEEN AROUND SINCE THE 30's.
@hotchkissrecords If the water vapor in a contrail cannot persist then how can the water vapor in clouds persist? None of the trails persist for days!
The newer jet engines burn the fuel better producing more water vapor and the jets are flying higher into colder and more stable air. The ice crystals that form cannot melt in air that is -40ºF so until the wind disperses them the cloud will remain visible.
Testing the soil does not prove where anything came from. Aluminum is the most abundant element on the planet so finding it is not a big surprise. Ground sources pump out tons more pollution every day than all the planes combined. Start you car and stand behind it for a while then multiply that by billions, add the pollution for power planet, factories, oil refineries...
If all that pollution was as visible as contrails then we would be in a permanent white out.
@massinij The barium levels quoted in "What in the World are They Spraying" were wrong. The abundance of barium is 0.0425 % in the Earth's crust and 13 µg/L in sea water. It occurs in the minerals barite (as the sulfate) and witherite (as the carbonate).[2] Although witherite deposits were mined from the 17th century till 1969[4] in northern England, for example in the Settlingstones Mine near Newbrough,[5] today nearly all barium is mined as barite.
@massinij The barium levels quoted in "What in the World are They Spraying" were wrong. The abundance of barium is 0.0425 % in the Earth's crust and 13 µg/L in sea water. It occurs in the minerals barite (as the sulfate) and witherite (as the carbonate).[2] Although witherite deposits were mined from the 17th century till 1969[4] in northern England, for example in the Settlingstones Mine near Newbrough,[5] today nearly all barium is mined as barite.
@massinij The barium levels quoted in "What in the World are They Spraying" were wrong. The abundance of barium is 0.0425 % in the Earth's crust and 13 µg/L in sea water. It occurs in the minerals barite (as the sulfate) and witherite (as the carbonate).[2] Although witherite deposits were mined from the 17th century till 1969[4] in northern England, for example in the Settlingstones Mine near Newbrough,[5] today nearly all barium is mined as barite.
The barium levels quoted in "What in the World are They Spraying" were wrong. The abundance of barium is 0.0425 % in the Earth's crust and 13 µg/L in sea water. It occurs in the minerals barite (as the sulfate) and witherite (as the carbonate).[2] Although witherite deposits were mined from the 17th century till 1969[4] in northern England, for example in the Settlingstones Mine near Newbrough,[5] today nearly all barium is mined as barite.
Large deposits of barite are found in China, Germany, India, Morocco, and in the United States.[6] A rare gem containing barium is known, called benitoite.
Barium has several man-made sources like fireworks, scavenge air in vacuum tubes, an insoluble heavy additive to oil well drilling mud, X-ray radiocontrast agent for imaging the human gastrointestinal track, a component of some "high temperature" YBCO superconductors, and electroceramics.
@ChrisArcen if you think the minimal amount of condensation (contrails) can form into cloud formations, you rally need to get educated on how real clouds form
@massinij I do understand cloud formation and the "minimal amount of condensation" even in a short contrail cloud looks much larger than the plane creating it.
For a cloud to form it takes more than just water vapor. The water vapor has to have some type of particle, like dust or smoke, to condense onto. The exhaust from the jet engines provide both the smoke particles and extra water vapor. Here is a video that shows that more than water vapor is needed.
@massinij Once the condensation starts on the particle more water vapor from the atmosphere condenses onto the particles. The air at 30,000 feet is always about -40ºF/-40ºC so the water vapor freezes into ice crystals and they cannot melt. The only way the contrail can be dispersed is by the wind spreading the ice crystals out enough that the cloud is no longer visible. The crystals continue to get bigger until they get heavy enough to fall low enough to be able to melt.
@ChrisArcen we're here in Florida 1-28-12 watching chemtrails galore. My understanding is for every 1000 ft of altitude you lose 2 degrees F. If they're flying at 30000 we're saying today's 80 f would be 20 f at their altitude. where are you located, what state ???
@massinij You understanding of losing 2 degrees per 1,000 feet is wrong. the air at 30,000 feet is always about -40ºF/-40ºC all over the world. Mount Everest,at 29,000 feet, is always covered in snow as well as most mountains around the world. Even the Andes is South America has snow caps. I am in Indiana but that does not matter.
@massinij The air in the lower stratosphere, where the jets are now flying, is much more stable making for a much smoother flight and more persistent contrail formation. Also newer jet engines burn the fuel more efficiently, which produces more water vapor.
@massinij I don't know what "EVIDENCE" you think is against what I have said but here is a video that explains why the contrails look different today than they did 30 years ago.
@pjoggin Contrails started persisting in the 30s when planes became able to fly high enough to create them.
The reason we see so many more today is because of the massive increase in air traffic, the newer jet engines burn the fuel better producing more water vapor, and the plane or larger and flying higher than ever. In the 70s and 80s it was not normal to see a passenger jet in the sky but now you can hardly look up with out seeing at least one.
They sell it like this ...we are helping stop global warming ...global warming started 50k yrs ago ...watch the skies sheeple from early am till dust you will see a clear morning sky get streaked up those streaks turn to milky white then this turns to dark over cast ...then it cools off ...it is what it is .... look for yourself ...don't have time put up a timelapse camera
@jmecrg The reason the sky is clear in the morning is because very few planes fly at night compared to in the day, so more contrails are going to be formed during the day. Watch the video below to see just how much the air traffic drops at night around the world.
Fact, they are producing aluminum-resistant seeds, monsanto is one company, now people in hawaii (where they found large amts of Aluminum in the lakes and snowcovered mountians that feed these lakes) are having to resort to buying these seeds. It would be insanely profitable to spray huge amounts of aluminum over crops so that farmers became dependant on these special seeds.
@99wins First aluminum is the most abundant element on the Earth. Second the cost of load thousands of planes with tons of metals and the extra fuel it would take to carry the heavier loads would cost far more than any profit they could make off of seeds.
@ChrisArcen that's if it was at their expense. I believe the taxpayer is picking up the tab. Remember communists love to have other people pay for their stuff.
@massinij That is to most ridiculous excuse for “chemtrails” I have ever heard and I thought that global warming, depopulation, and geo-engineering were pathetic.
The simple fact is that the air at 30,000 feet is always about -40ºF/-40ºC so when the air is humid and stable enough contrails turn into cirrus clouds, spread out, and persist for hours.
@massinij Do you understand that cirrus clouds are made up of small ice crystals and they can persist for hours, so a contrail can also persist until the wind spreads out the ice crystals enough for them to not be a visible cloud?
More water vapor from the air condenses onto them until they get heavy enough to fall lower and melt.
@99wins Aluminum has been a problem since we started farming! Your theory that they are spraying aluminum to then make the monsanto seeds viable is so fucking stupid its not funny! 1 square meter of soil weight 1.6 TONNES! Can you grasp that? SO your trying to say that something sprayed 25,000 FEET IN THE AIR is going to effect that soil? I know your retarded because you have already fallen for this shit but just step back for a minute and think about the mathematics!
@FUNBOY1377 IF any particles ever fell to the ground there would be thousands of videos showing just that! If you have a pool, wet washing out on the line water tank connected to the roof there would be indisputable evidence of the trace metals you wackos crap on about. As per usual dumb people trying to think logically = FAIL. The difference between people who believe in chemtrails and people that dont could clearly be defined by IQ.
@Lorisic just recently saw a video with 8 planes filmed flying side by side at same altitude leaving * chemtrails. Could you please tell me what tower cleared 8 jets in Newburgh, NY to do this??? Eyes to see but can not see ???
@massinij Ya planes play chicken now and have races ,ya ok.people are dumb as fuck and they are chicken shits they just can't admitt the obvious because it's to scary for their pussy little ass.
@medamine00 They are just contrails that have turned into cirrus clouds. This "Chemtrail" conspiracy theory is just a hoax invented by people that want to sell books and make millions.
" When I try to tell people they act like I am crazy."
What else do you expect? Another PARANOID CHEMNUT who lives in Vancouver, Canada, telling people that the dead leaves off maple trees are caused by chemtrail spraying. IN AUTUMN ?
10 Minutes into the life of a PARANOID schizophrenic CHEMNUT !
This "chemtrail" hoax is coming undone at the seams.
What makes you think planes just go in straight lines? At busy airports like Sydney at the start of the morning, airplanes from Melbourne and Brisbane have to line up before landing . Some in really busy times have to go around radio beacons waiting their turn.
Given the right upper air coditions, a series of overlapping CONTRAILS are produced. See
I watch this happen over Columbus, Ohio all the time. They work hard to produce these intricate latticework patterns which become clouds.. And within there are mini rainbows. When I try to tell people they act like I am crazy.
@manysons You are crazy, they are contrails and the patterns are formed because planes have to fly along flight paths like cars on a road. One plane will leave a contrail along the path and it drifts over like all clouds do, so when the next plane comes along the contrails end up parallel to each other and so on. When two of these flight paths intersect a crisscross patter is formed.
US patent # US4402480: ATMOSPHERE MODIFICATION SATELLITE Sept 6, 1983, filed 1980. Abstract excerpt: The Atmosphere Modification Satellite is intended to be the beginning of a possible world wide network of satellites designed to improve Earth through application of techniques and monitoring resulting in atmosphere modification. End excerpt.
Hey everone this chrisarcen guy is a shill ignore him he is getting paid to sell out his own family in my book that makes him a traitor guilty of high treason!!
@dan32749 He sure is! He's non-stop, don't quit. It's probably the same shill the deleted his account before. He acts just like him and gives the same references over and over. *smh
@dan32749 I am just here for the entertainment of seeing just how stupid you and your buddies really are! I need something to kill time and give me a good laugh everyday!
@dan32749 The whole world is crumbling around us but it is not because the government is "spraying us" or that they or "controlling the weather". The people and big business has a lot more to do with it than all the governments put together.
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Persistent contrails have been around since the 30s. I saw plenty of them in the 70s and 80s.
A 2002 report notes that: "over the last 25 years, the US Navy [has released from planes] several hundred thousand pounds of aluminized chaff during flight operations over a training area on the Chesapeake Bay."
@xtymiller Yes military planes release chaff during training what does that have to do with anything? Chaff is long strips of metal and nothing anybody is going to breath in.
Ya gotta love the morons shills that say oh when the atmospheric conditions are right con trails just last long. Ya ok so every day in almost all the cities around the world the atmospheric conditions are right every day for month's straight!!!
"the U.S. is creating new integral geophysical weapons (HAARP) that may influence the near-Earth medium with high-frequency radio waves ... The significance of this qualitative leap could be compared to the transition from cold steel to fire arms, or from conventional weapons to nuclear weapons. This new type of weapons differs from previous types in that the near-Earth medium becomes at once an object of direct influence and its component."
@xtymiller HAARP is not a weapon it cannot control the weather, cause earthquakes, or anything else. If you do some research you will find out that HAARP's transmitters can only put out 3.6 megawatts of power. A single lighting bolt has over a gigawatt (1,000 megawatts) of power. You are very gullible and ignorant, that is a very bad combination.
@ChrisArcen The only ignorant one here is you we out number you by a million to one you are the one that looks pretty stupid on here telling everyone the same thing over and over again. Thank god there are way more people that know ,you are full of shit or just really stupid enjoy your stupidity shill.
@dan32749 I'm not stupid and I'm not a shill. And if I was so stupid how come so many people follow what I post..?? I have way more support than you think.
@dan32749 I have almost 20,000 followers on twitter and facebook, and they come from all over the world. Many are awake and aware of the aerosol programs in their countries, and we all share information with each other. Thousands of photos that are nothing close to normal airline activity. They're geo-engineering programs that change weather. They can do so with heavy spraying of chemtrails. They can cover a clear sky within a matter of hours if they wish to. I've photo-documented it many times!
@xtymiller That is because you have found about 20,000 really stupid people! Stupid people are breading much faster now than intelligent people that are busy with their careers. Watch the movie "Idiocracy" that is where the world is headed.
@xtymiller That don't mean shit ! Have you seen our schools compared to other countries i would not be bragging about that it just tells me your another american idiot that thinks he's smart . Plus the fact that you think there is contrails everyday around the world that last for hours your argument is weak as hell and you are probably a shill anyway.
@dan32749 I know all about our school system, and it's sad to say the least... And I didn't say nothing about there being contrails everyday around the world did I?? No. I don't see chemtrails everyday either... only on spray days. Lately it's been very clear, but the only thing in the sky has been short quick dissipating contrails, and no long lasting chemtrails that for maybe 4-5 days now. And FYI, shills reply to all the chemtrail comments and try and tell them they're nothing but contrails.
@xtymiller Well i must have thought you we're someone else , if you know about chemtrails then your alright in my book and i am truely sorry i must have sent a message to the wrong person.
@dan32749 I have worked with Geniuses at the Maui Research and Technology Center as a computer programmer, unix system, and support technician... please stop trying to degrade me. I'm certainly no dummy.
In April 1997, U.S. Secretary of Defense William Cohen publicly discussed the dangers of HAARP-like technology, saying "others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves... So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations... It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts."
If planes never crossed paths (aka never made "X" in the sky), we would have to fly directly east-west, north-south all the time.
Therefore, If I wanted to fly from Chicago to Dallas, I would have to make sure NEVER to cross the path of a New York - Los Angeles plane, else an X appear somewhere over the sky
Surely they've tried the methods mentioned in the University of Calgary Climate Conference on Geo-engineering... using Aluminum and Barium salts and oxides to create faux ionized Aluminum/Barium clouds via chemtrail spray planes. The trails I see glow very brightly... illuminated like mentioned below in the NASA barium ion clouds patent info.
selectively permitting fluid flow from fuel tank & oxidizer tank into combustion chamber, a liquid fuel having a quantity of barium salts dissolved in fuel tank, a liquid oxidizer disposed in oxidizer tank, liquid fuel & liquid oxidizer having inherent chemical property characteristics of undergoing a hypergolic reaction upon contact w/ each other whereby..... resulting hypergolic reaction releases high yield of luminous barium atoms & ions. (BASICALLY SAYING THEY CAN AND DO MAKE CLOUDS)
@xtymiller Water vapor creates the clouds, barium or aluminum could not with the heat in the combustion chambers. The temperature of the burning fuel in the combustion chamber of a jet engine is about 2000ºC / 3600ºF.
Aluminum's melting point is 660.37 °C / 1220.66 °F and Barium’s melting point is 727 °C / 1341 °F neither one would make it through the combustion process.
The combustion chamber is made from titanium and it needs to be cooled to keep it from melting.
@ChrisArcen Well, the patents regarding chemtrail tech don't specify that the insertion of the chemicals is in the combustion chamber. The patents I've seen are attached to the exhaust. Whether they're mounted INSIDE the engine at all isn't clear to me. I see no reason they couldn't do this on the exterior of the engine, but still acheive it's insertion into the exhaust gases. Seems logical to me.
@hotchkissrecords There is at least two things with that theory that is illogical
1. The exhaust gases would still be hot enough to melt the metals until it was out of the engine and able to cool off.
2. If the plane was spraying anything from inside the engine or from the wings the trail would start at the plane, like with a crop duster, and not far back from the engines.
Show me one video of a persistent trail where the trail starts at the plane.
@ChrisArcen In any case. Analysis of these "persistent contrails"...chemtrails (you Frank Luntz wannabe) show HIGH amounts of Aluminum and Barium. Analysis of precipitation on mountain tops show the same. Analysis of soil from runoff show the same. Analysis of soil from NON-runoff locations show the same. All at levels beyond the point requiring government action to stop it. Believe it or not, it's happening. Regardless whether or not you choose to accept it.
@hotchkissrecords Testing ground and water samples does not prove where the contaminates came from. Aluminum is the most abundant element on Earth and ground sources pump ton of pollution into the air everyday. One of the biggest sources of mercury is coal fired power plants.
@ChrisArcen You're right. It doesn't prove where. Just that there is more than an abundance of it to REQUIRE government action to stop it. Which hasn't happened, and likely wont (seeing how our government officials treat everyone when approached about the subject). The same tests did not show a dangerous level of mercury. So, I guess I don't get your point about the source of mercury. So what, it's not at a dangerous level like the aluminum and barium happens to be.
@ChrisArcen On top of all of this, what's the point of all the patents then? Why have them? You can go look them up just like the folks in the surrounding comments have. Are the patents just a bunch of hooey? They ARE REAL. They exist.
@hotchkissrecords There are patents for cancer cures that don't work either. Somebody comes up with a idea and files for a patent, it is just a piece of paperwork. Patents are not proof that anything works or that anything is being done.
@hotchkissrecords The point is that some dumb ass wanted a patent and submitted the paperwork for it. People have tried to make a lot of stupid thing before and their idea of what it could be used for is probably a lot different that what you think it is.
@ChrisArcen That is not a reason. That's HOW. Not why. That's like saying: what's the point of the chicken crossing the road? The point is that a damn chicken crossed the road. Period.
@hotchkissrecords The point is it does not matter if the chicken got smashed into the road or made it across. It is still just a piece of paper and it is not proof of anything.
@hotchkissrecords The point is it does not matter if the chicken got smashed into the road or made it across. It is still just a piece of paper and it is not proof of anything.
@hotchkissrecords It depends where the test where taken as to what types of pollution you will find. Test taken closer to a power plant will show more mercury that one farther away. Mercury is heaver than aluminum so it will not stay airborne and travel as far.
@hotchkissrecords It did not have to be next to a site pumping out pollution. Pollution travels in the air for miles and the air currents can bring a lot of it together in one place, just like the ocean currents have created the Great Pacific Garbage Patch that is twice the size of Texas.
@ChrisArcen "it did not have to be next to...pumping...pollution" But then what the hell was the point of saying: "Test[s] taken closer to a power plant..." We're talking about heavy metals. Your claim is that jet engines will melt the solution and [cause it to fall immediately to the ground, hence 'melted'], yet you back it up with the fact that air currents carry things miles and miles away? You are arguing against yourself now. Air is quite a bit different than the ocean.
@hotchkissrecords I did not say that they would melt it and it would fall to the ground. If the engine melted the metals some of the liquid would evaporate, the impurities would burn, and the rest would either be blown out or stick to the parts of the engines. When the engine would be shut down the remaining metal would reset making it impossible to restart the engine. That is why it is not possible that metals could be in the fuel.
@ChrisArcen As I said before, there are plenty of patents that do NOT involve the fuel. There are plenty that are on the exterior of the engine near the exhaust (as well as ones that would be in other places on the plane). Thus, even if it melted, it doesn't matter, it's already on the outside of the engine. Thus, not affecting the internal components or function of the engine.
@hotchkissrecords Like I said before that does not matter. Passenger jets do not have enough room left over to carry enough chemicals or metals to leave trails that are miles long and the military does not have enough planes to fly around leaving all the persistent trails we see all over the world every day.
@hotchkissrecords 2. Occam's Razor: States that with all things being equal the simplest explanation is usually the correct one.
Now which is the simplest
The government of the world have gotten together spending trillions of dollars to spray us and themselves with chemicals and metals and no hard evidence has ever leak out.
or
Hot air hitting freezing air produces condensation that turns into ice crystals forming cirrus clouds that can persist for hours.
@hotchkissrecords Air is not that different than the ocean and it can carry thing miles away. A piece of steel will fall out of the sky faster than a feather that can float and a small piece of mercury will fall out of the sky faster than a small piece of aluminum that can float farther. If air currents cannot carry things for miles then why did the volcanic eruption on Iceland in 2010 stop air traffic if Europe?
@hotchkissrecords If a plane sprayed something out at thousands of feet it would be so dispersed by the time it hit the ground that it would be undetectable. If a crop duster tried to dust a field from a thousand feet how much of the pesticide do you think would actually land on the field?
@ChrisArcen But I thought you said that it would melt immediately, thus, disbursement would NOT happen. You claimed that the theory, as patented, of aerosol additives or post-exhaust disbursement COULD NOT happen, period. Now you're arguing the part of possible disbursement, but that now the tests can't be accurate...blah blah blah. Ladies and gentlemen, I think we have ourselves an operative! Spreading false logic, hoping that it will take root. Nice try, thanks for playing.
@hotchkissrecords Show me one of your "chemtrails" that dose not start far behind the engines which proves it is a contrail. When anything is sprayed from a plane the trail starts at the plane like during a fuel dump are from a crop duster.
It is not false logic it is just logic you cannot understand.
@hotchkissrecords I said if they did spray something, meaning from a place other than the engines, like a fuel dump or a crop-duster. You are just not capable of understanding logic.
@hotchkissrecords OK,you have absolutely no idea about anything, thats pretty clear! Why you trust yourself in having an opinion on anything is beyond me!To give you an idea how a combustion engine works,fuel has to be clean,infact before the fuel even gets to the engine it must pass through a filter.In jet aircraft I believe it passes through 4.FOUR!To set an engine up to accept such impurities would require a complete re-design and would mean THOUSANDS of mechanics on in this
It amazes me how many naive uneducated people out there believe this nonsense
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i dont see anything, just blue sky.
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That shit is so small.. you have more carbon monoxide in the air from cars and trucks .. Do you think those measely little lines will have ANY effect on a population at all? It will disipate so fast that by the time it reaches you the PPM's (Parts Per Million) are so spread out it wont hurt you.. Quit snorting so much coke and getting paranoid.. smoke some weed and open your mind..
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If contrails can't persist and spread and never have- why were they studying them 40yrs ago??- 100s more written since:
Measurements of the Growth of the Ice Budget in a Persisting Contrail
Knollenberg
Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences
October 1972
"It is often observed that contrails spread considerably...Under favorable conditions, a lateral spread of kilometers is observed...If sufficient air traffic exists, an entire overcast of contrail cirrus may develop and persist for hours."
JimBridger100 2 weeks ago
I can't see any proof that chemtrails don't exist. We know contrails exist, so please think your arguments through before making yourself look stupid.
RectalSpoonNinja 2 weeks ago 2
i love this song!!! upmann by the octopus project holy shit!!!
killzall13 3 weeks ago
CHEMTRAILS=DEPOPULATION
changethecurrent 3 weeks ago
Ted Gunderson Is an American hero who served his countrymen/women for 40+ years, He told us all that these are death dumps and this is all about population control, CHEMTRAILS=DEPOPULATION, plain and simple. These bastard are killing our loved ones, we must do everything in our power to stop this. God bless you all and keep fighting the good fight!
changethecurrent 3 weeks ago 3
Can I mirror this?
changethecurrent 3 weeks ago
CHEMTRAILS show up on RADAR and Contrails do not!
ChemTrailsMN 3 weeks ago
Chemtrails Are Real! check out the documentary: "what in the world are they spraying!" and BLOCK the spinners and haters and gov PAID DeBunkers!
ChemTrailsMN 3 weeks ago
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Thanks for your Video! Keep up the Watch! People Look UP and Video whats ! Over YOUR city and upload to YouTube! ChemTrails are all over the World now, Take a look at my Videos over Minnesota USA! Thanks again, from -- ChemTrailsMN --
ChemTrailsMN 4 weeks ago
I was going to say where are the shills but i see them now , hey moron shill if you look at this and think it's normal YOU ARE DUMB AS FUCK PERIOD GET A LIFE TRAITOR!!!!!
dan32749 4 weeks ago
@dan32749 This video will explain to you why this is now normal and why the sky did not look like this 30 years ago.
watch?v=pQz3aZtbF-c
ChrisArcen 4 weeks ago
@dan32749 People that make comments like that are just admitting that they don’t have any so-called “proof” of this conspiracy theory and have lost the debate. Thank you for admitting defeat.
ChrisArcen 3 weeks ago
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Thanks for your Video! Keep up the Watch! People Look UP and Video whats ! Over YOUR city and upload to YouTube! ChemTrails are all over the World now, Take a look at my Videos over Minnesota USA! Thanks again, from -- ChemTrailsMN --
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dan32749 3 weeks ago
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GOOD PEOPLE OF EARTH, FELLOW NEW YORKERS, USE A VAPORIZER or humidifier filled with vinegar and water outside your window and the FAKE clouds dissappear. It works, they come back and re-spray so leave your vaporizers on and keep refilling every couple of days. works in 15- 60 mins. FARMERS PLEASE PUT VINEGAR VAPORIZERS ON YOUR LAND TO BREAK UP THE FAKE CLOUDS. ITS CALLED ACID BASE REACTION. IT WORKS!!
hairtogovideos 1 month ago
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furi0us06 1 month ago
the congress.. amd basically seize control of the government if the country goes into a emergency state as in the threat of a nuclear attack... 2012 is gunna be a rocky yeat
furi0us06 1 month ago
@chris arcen actually mate the uk government has admitted spraying the uk with bacteria in between the 40s and 70s.. wel may have dates wrong ..but the interview can be found on the guardian website and also the government said they were unqualified to answer questions about ongoing research... think u may be in denial.mate.... the NWO is coming open ya eyez.. reasearch about FEMA in the U.S and u will see that there is a group that are completely seperate from the government and can bypass
furi0us06 1 month ago
@furi0us06 Yes, and the U.S. government has admitted to releasing radiation onto a town to see what would happen to the people and to no big surprise most of the people ended up with cancer.
None of that has anything to do with the persistent contrails we see in the sky today.
ChrisArcen 1 month ago
who has a telescope that has a camera so we can get better photographic evidence, i.e., the aerosol canisters with the spray coming out? It would clear up some of the denial.
windsurfer7000 1 month ago
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@factoredin Greg Orca trolls here too? Then onefourwhiskey won't be far away. Those wormfarms can't fart without the others giving them thumbs up...lol.
@hotchkissrecords is right. Read the patents, THEN APPLY OCCAM'S RAZOR. We are simply being chemtrailed. To say the MIC can't afford chemtrails is preposterous. We spend billions on war. Chemtrails are a drop in the bucket, and HAARP is widely used.
Cloudy2Clear 1 month ago
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The question is not "if" there are chemtrails, the question is "why" chemtrails. There is a difference between persistent contrails and chemtrails. Those who so vigorously deny chemtrails are afraid of them being exposed. They will have to accept the responsibility that they tried to lead billions to their graves by minimizing the dangers of chemtrails. A topic that they were totally unqualified to speak on. To see that crap in the sky, and read numerous patents on it's usage verifies the evil.
Cloudy2Clear 1 month ago
A video of trails in the sky is not "proof" of anything except that there are trails in the sky. They are persistent contrails and they have been around for over 70 years. Here is a video that shows what we should be worried about instead of water vapor in the sky.
watch?v=_iB_VIZuWVA&feature=related
ChrisArcen 1 month ago
@ChrisArcen disinfo agent!! illuminati cock sucker^^
killer8520178 1 month ago
@killer8520178 Great reply! Try using some information to back up your bullshit theories instead of just insults!
ChrisArcen 1 month ago 4
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If you feel that chem-trails are poison"You can protest peacefully by signing the petition to hold new elections.
wwwDOTpetition2congressDOTcom/5656/abolish-disband-112th-congress-establish-new-elections/
For any that truly want to get at the facts, and thus the truth, research should be done on SAG, (stratospheric aerosol geoengineering) and SRM, (solar radiation management).
MrScorpion18b 1 month ago
@factoredin How should I know were anyone else is I am here stuck in my house because I have Epilepsy. They must be off explain reality to other people that need help understanding it.
ChrisArcen 1 month ago
Desplaying pictures of contrails and saying that they are chemtrails is like displaying a picture of a meerkat and saying it is a lion.
Chemical analysis, please.
BurritoBazooka 2 months ago 4
@BurritoBazooka a contrail wil disapear after a minute or so?
are you able to make"Chemical analysis"????
uglyrage 4 days ago
@uglyrage They don't disappear, they dissipate. There is a difference. If you were to fly around in the sky through and below the contrails, and collect air samples, you could perform a chemical analysis on it if you want. Even if you can't see the contrail after a minute, if there are chemical particles in them, they would still be in the air at a lower density - a density which makes them not reflect and refract sunlight well enough to colour them white as in the video.
BurritoBazooka 4 days ago
@uglyrage Of course, if you were to fly around and collect samples, you'd want to use a glider. The engine of an aeroplane may contaminate your sample.
BurritoBazooka 4 days ago
@BurritoBazooka well not many people are able to fly around in gliders doing chemical analysis wherever they want
uglyrage 4 days ago
@uglyrage If you cared so much about it...:
1. Run a fundraiser for the 'scientific proof of chemtrails by the use of chemical analysis through aircraft'
2. Pay someone else to do it using funds
3. Once you have more than enough proof, publish your hypothesis, results, and conclusions.
BurritoBazooka 4 days ago
@uglyrage Oh, and
4. Publish your method, so that other scientists and independent studies can prove or disprove of your method and results.
BurritoBazooka 3 days ago
@uglyrage AND you would also have to scientifically prove that the chemicals in the 'chemtrails' can influence a human being's (or at least a primate's) judgement... or whatever conspiracy theory you subscribe to and connect the potential existence of chemtrails to.
BurritoBazooka 3 days ago
@BurritoBazooka Hit the science book... these have particles in them. It is an illegal geo-engineering project. Watch the doc, What in the World are They Spraying?
violashutters 3 days ago
These videos are proof that a consensus of people have created a reality that invoves chemtrails, thousands of them....I would like to see all these thousands of people setup a HEPA filter and get an ICPMS (Inductively coupled plasma mass spectrometry) test done on the collected particulate.
FUNBOY1377 2 months ago 2
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ChrisArcen 2 months ago 3
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What I don't understand about naysayers: They attack the methods (i.e. the patents involving methods of getting aluminum and barium into the air), yet they don't mind the simple fact that some people have even attempted this & WANT to do this. Nor do they mind that the levels of aluminum and barium in the air and soil ARE ALREADY beyond levels requiring government action. No, they just argue that you can't put aluminum in fuel. No shit. That's not the only patent attempting this. WAKE UP!!!
hotchkissrecords 2 months ago
@hotchkissrecords Persistent contrails have been around since the 30s. Wake up!
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
@ChrisArcen I WILL REPEAT WHAT I STATED BEFORE ON THE SAME COMMENT!! THE PATENTS INVOLVING CHEMTRAILS BEGAN IN THE 20's, SO IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE THAT THEY'VE BEEN AROUND SINCE THE 30's.
hotchkissrecords 2 months ago
@hotchkissrecords I will repeat what I said they are contrails and this is bullshit!
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
@ChrisArcen Contrails don't linger for that long. Contrails don't take DAYS to dissipate. You are bullshit.
hotchkissrecords 1 month ago
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@hotchkissrecords If the water vapor in a contrail cannot persist then how can the water vapor in clouds persist? None of the trails persist for days!
The newer jet engines burn the fuel better producing more water vapor and the jets are flying higher into colder and more stable air. The ice crystals that form cannot melt in air that is -40ºF so until the wind disperses them the cloud will remain visible.
ChrisArcen 1 month ago 8
@ChrisArcen test your soil
massinij 1 month ago
Testing the soil does not prove where anything came from. Aluminum is the most abundant element on the planet so finding it is not a big surprise. Ground sources pump out tons more pollution every day than all the planes combined. Start you car and stand behind it for a while then multiply that by billions, add the pollution for power planet, factories, oil refineries...
If all that pollution was as visible as contrails then we would be in a permanent white out.
watch?v=A9CMTj-GXgQ
ChrisArcen 1 month ago 2
@ChrisArcen test for barium and let me know the natural source for that
massinij 3 weeks ago
@massinij The barium levels quoted in "What in the World are They Spraying" were wrong. The abundance of barium is 0.0425 % in the Earth's crust and 13 µg/L in sea water. It occurs in the minerals barite (as the sulfate) and witherite (as the carbonate).[2] Although witherite deposits were mined from the 17th century till 1969[4] in northern England, for example in the Settlingstones Mine near Newbrough,[5] today nearly all barium is mined as barite.
ChrisArcen 3 weeks ago
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@massinij The barium levels quoted in "What in the World are They Spraying" were wrong. The abundance of barium is 0.0425 % in the Earth's crust and 13 µg/L in sea water. It occurs in the minerals barite (as the sulfate) and witherite (as the carbonate).[2] Although witherite deposits were mined from the 17th century till 1969[4] in northern England, for example in the Settlingstones Mine near Newbrough,[5] today nearly all barium is mined as barite.
ChrisArcen 3 weeks ago
@massinij The barium levels quoted in "What in the World are They Spraying" were wrong. The abundance of barium is 0.0425 % in the Earth's crust and 13 µg/L in sea water. It occurs in the minerals barite (as the sulfate) and witherite (as the carbonate).[2] Although witherite deposits were mined from the 17th century till 1969[4] in northern England, for example in the Settlingstones Mine near Newbrough,[5] today nearly all barium is mined as barite.
ChrisArcen 3 weeks ago
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The barium levels quoted in "What in the World are They Spraying" were wrong. The abundance of barium is 0.0425 % in the Earth's crust and 13 µg/L in sea water. It occurs in the minerals barite (as the sulfate) and witherite (as the carbonate).[2] Although witherite deposits were mined from the 17th century till 1969[4] in northern England, for example in the Settlingstones Mine near Newbrough,[5] today nearly all barium is mined as barite.
ChrisArcen 3 weeks ago
Large deposits of barite are found in China, Germany, India, Morocco, and in the United States.[6] A rare gem containing barium is known, called benitoite.
Barium has several man-made sources like fireworks, scavenge air in vacuum tubes, an insoluble heavy additive to oil well drilling mud, X-ray radiocontrast agent for imaging the human gastrointestinal track, a component of some "high temperature" YBCO superconductors, and electroceramics.
ChrisArcen 3 weeks ago
@ChrisArcen Dude seriously GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY A TROLL!
dan32749 2 weeks ago
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@hotchkissrecords The idea that contrails cannot persist is what started this bullshit conspiracy theory in the first place.
watch?v=zDdxb6W7nWU
watch?v=TSi6n4DA3UA
watch?v=pQz3aZtbF-c
If you want to see what is really killing us here it is!
watch?v=A9CMTj-GXgQ
ChrisArcen 1 month ago 6
@ChrisArcen if you think the minimal amount of condensation (contrails) can form into cloud formations, you rally need to get educated on how real clouds form
massinij 1 month ago
@massinij I do understand cloud formation and the "minimal amount of condensation" even in a short contrail cloud looks much larger than the plane creating it.
For a cloud to form it takes more than just water vapor. The water vapor has to have some type of particle, like dust or smoke, to condense onto. The exhaust from the jet engines provide both the smoke particles and extra water vapor. Here is a video that shows that more than water vapor is needed.
watch?v=MBh6TPYH3XU
ChrisArcen 1 month ago
@massinij Once the condensation starts on the particle more water vapor from the atmosphere condenses onto the particles. The air at 30,000 feet is always about -40ºF/-40ºC so the water vapor freezes into ice crystals and they cannot melt. The only way the contrail can be dispersed is by the wind spreading the ice crystals out enough that the cloud is no longer visible. The crystals continue to get bigger until they get heavy enough to fall low enough to be able to melt.
ChrisArcen 1 month ago
@ChrisArcen we're here in Florida 1-28-12 watching chemtrails galore. My understanding is for every 1000 ft of altitude you lose 2 degrees F. If they're flying at 30000 we're saying today's 80 f would be 20 f at their altitude. where are you located, what state ???
massinij 4 weeks ago
@massinij You understanding of losing 2 degrees per 1,000 feet is wrong. the air at 30,000 feet is always about -40ºF/-40ºC all over the world. Mount Everest,at 29,000 feet, is always covered in snow as well as most mountains around the world. Even the Andes is South America has snow caps. I am in Indiana but that does not matter.
ChrisArcen 4 weeks ago
@massinij The air in the lower stratosphere, where the jets are now flying, is much more stable making for a much smoother flight and more persistent contrail formation. Also newer jet engines burn the fuel more efficiently, which produces more water vapor.
ChrisArcen 1 month ago
@ChrisArcen sorry, not buying it. too much EVIDENCE against what you're saying. good luck. everything appears to be normal ???
massinij 4 weeks ago
@massinij I don't know what "EVIDENCE" you think is against what I have said but here is a video that explains why the contrails look different today than they did 30 years ago.
watch?v=pQz3aZtbF-c
ChrisArcen 4 weeks ago
@ChrisArcen No it is not , i have always known contrails can persist but they are still spraying the sky.
dan32749 3 weeks ago
@dan32749 If you know that contrails can persist, then why do you still believe that they are "spraying" and where is the proof?
ChrisArcen 3 weeks ago
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hotchkissrecords 2 months ago
ABSOLUTE PROOF! Of what? That you are retarded?
riceburnagtv 2 months ago 2
@okawari0000 Great job, you exposed water vapor!
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
i have posted a video response and if its put on i would like to ask when did contrails start to do this, great video by the way
pjoggin 2 months ago
@pjoggin Contrails started persisting in the 30s when planes became able to fly high enough to create them.
The reason we see so many more today is because of the massive increase in air traffic, the newer jet engines burn the fuel better producing more water vapor, and the plane or larger and flying higher than ever. In the 70s and 80s it was not normal to see a passenger jet in the sky but now you can hardly look up with out seeing at least one.
watch?v=TSi6n4DA3UA
ChrisArcen 2 months ago 3
They sell it like this ...we are helping stop global warming ...global warming started 50k yrs ago ...watch the skies sheeple from early am till dust you will see a clear morning sky get streaked up those streaks turn to milky white then this turns to dark over cast ...then it cools off ...it is what it is .... look for yourself ...don't have time put up a timelapse camera
jmecrg 2 months ago
@jmecrg The reason the sky is clear in the morning is because very few planes fly at night compared to in the day, so more contrails are going to be formed during the day. Watch the video below to see just how much the air traffic drops at night around the world.
watch?v=G1L4GUA8arY
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
Chris ....you are correct ...but the past 10 yrs builds up
jmecrg 2 months ago
I've been saying that for yrs \/\/
jmecrg 2 months ago
@chris arcen
Fact, they are producing aluminum-resistant seeds, monsanto is one company, now people in hawaii (where they found large amts of Aluminum in the lakes and snowcovered mountians that feed these lakes) are having to resort to buying these seeds. It would be insanely profitable to spray huge amounts of aluminum over crops so that farmers became dependant on these special seeds.
99wins 2 months ago
@99wins First aluminum is the most abundant element on the Earth. Second the cost of load thousands of planes with tons of metals and the extra fuel it would take to carry the heavier loads would cost far more than any profit they could make off of seeds.
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
@ChrisArcen that's if it was at their expense. I believe the taxpayer is picking up the tab. Remember communists love to have other people pay for their stuff.
massinij 4 weeks ago
@massinij That is to most ridiculous excuse for “chemtrails” I have ever heard and I thought that global warming, depopulation, and geo-engineering were pathetic.
The simple fact is that the air at 30,000 feet is always about -40ºF/-40ºC so when the air is humid and stable enough contrails turn into cirrus clouds, spread out, and persist for hours.
ChrisArcen 4 weeks ago
@ChrisArcen you're in a DEEP state of denial OR have something to gain being a fellow traveller lock step with the SYSTEM
massinij 4 weeks ago
@massinij No, I am in a "deep state" of reality and you are gullible to believe all this "chemtrail" bullshit.
Does you car's tailpipe create condensation in cold air?
Don't you think a jet engine would not do the same thing?
Do you think the temperature is not always about -40ºF/-40ºC at 30,000 feet and that the water droplets would freeze?
Do you think ice crystals can melt in air that is -40ºF/-40ºC
ChrisArcen 3 weeks ago
@massinij Do you understand that cirrus clouds are made up of small ice crystals and they can persist for hours, so a contrail can also persist until the wind spreads out the ice crystals enough for them to not be a visible cloud?
More water vapor from the air condenses onto them until they get heavy enough to fall lower and melt.
ChrisArcen 3 weeks ago
@99wins Aluminum has been a problem since we started farming! Your theory that they are spraying aluminum to then make the monsanto seeds viable is so fucking stupid its not funny! 1 square meter of soil weight 1.6 TONNES! Can you grasp that? SO your trying to say that something sprayed 25,000 FEET IN THE AIR is going to effect that soil? I know your retarded because you have already fallen for this shit but just step back for a minute and think about the mathematics!
riceburnagtv 2 months ago
@riceburnagtv ... Gravity uhh would errr cause the particulates to fall to the ground uh errr duh, durk a durk.
FUNBOY1377 2 months ago
@FUNBOY1377 IF any particles ever fell to the ground there would be thousands of videos showing just that! If you have a pool, wet washing out on the line water tank connected to the roof there would be indisputable evidence of the trace metals you wackos crap on about. As per usual dumb people trying to think logically = FAIL. The difference between people who believe in chemtrails and people that dont could clearly be defined by IQ.
Have a good life fearing absolutely nothing!
riceburnagtv 2 months ago
@riceburnagtv sorry not math, physics...
FUNBOY1377 2 months ago
Chemtrails are nothing but a hoax. Invest into education of yourselves.
Lorisic 2 months ago 2
@Lorisic just recently saw a video with 8 planes filmed flying side by side at same altitude leaving * chemtrails. Could you please tell me what tower cleared 8 jets in Newburgh, NY to do this??? Eyes to see but can not see ???
massinij 4 weeks ago 2
@massinij Ya planes play chicken now and have races ,ya ok.people are dumb as fuck and they are chicken shits they just can't admitt the obvious because it's to scary for their pussy little ass.
dan32749 3 weeks ago
I saw the same thing today in the morning, it was plan that it fly in sky for 2hours, i'm living in morocco city: Fès.. but sad i couldn't film it
i don't know what happen people talk so much about this chemtrails..
medamine00 2 months ago
@medamine00 They are just contrails that have turned into cirrus clouds. This "Chemtrail" conspiracy theory is just a hoax invented by people that want to sell books and make millions.
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
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@manysons
"They work hard to produce these intricate latticework patterns which become clouds.. And within there are mini rainbows."
erniepond1 2 months ago
@erniepond1
" When I try to tell people they act like I am crazy."
What else do you expect? Another PARANOID CHEMNUT who lives in Vancouver, Canada, telling people that the dead leaves off maple trees are caused by chemtrail spraying. IN AUTUMN ?
10 Minutes into the life of a PARANOID schizophrenic CHEMNUT !
/watch?v=-7CXjMHhzAY
erniepond1 2 months ago
This "chemtrail" hoax is coming undone at the seams.
What makes you think planes just go in straight lines? At busy airports like Sydney at the start of the morning, airplanes from Melbourne and Brisbane have to line up before landing . Some in really busy times have to go around radio beacons waiting their turn.
Given the right upper air coditions, a series of overlapping CONTRAILS are produced. See
Sydney Airport Traffic - AM 2nd December, 2011
watch?v=Mvc0m1zsWP0
erniepond1 2 months ago
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erniepond1 2 months ago
Great news!
It looks like the author of
"Killer Chemtrails: The Shocking Truth"
has realized this chemtrail idea is a hoax.
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
I watch this happen over Columbus, Ohio all the time. They work hard to produce these intricate latticework patterns which become clouds.. And within there are mini rainbows. When I try to tell people they act like I am crazy.
manysons 2 months ago
@manysons You are crazy, they are contrails and the patterns are formed because planes have to fly along flight paths like cars on a road. One plane will leave a contrail along the path and it drifts over like all clouds do, so when the next plane comes along the contrails end up parallel to each other and so on. When two of these flight paths intersect a crisscross patter is formed.
watch?v=7DSM7RS094c
watch?v=pQz3aZtbF-c
ChrisArcen 2 months ago 2
Weather Modification Patents: Use of planes, ships, satellites, aerosols, earth metals (
US4042196: Method for triggering a substantial change in earth characteristics.
WO970007A1: Method of acting on the lower layers of the atmosphere. (Russian inventor)
WO9738570A1: Atmosphere inversion layer destabilizer.
US4653690: Method of producing cumulus clouds.
US4470544: Weather modification using ships.
US3608810 Methods of treating atmospheric conditions.
xtymiller 2 months ago
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xtymiller 2 months ago
US patent # US4402480: ATMOSPHERE MODIFICATION SATELLITE Sept 6, 1983, filed 1980. Abstract excerpt: The Atmosphere Modification Satellite is intended to be the beginning of a possible world wide network of satellites designed to improve Earth through application of techniques and monitoring resulting in atmosphere modification. End excerpt.
xtymiller 2 months ago
Hey everone this chrisarcen guy is a shill ignore him he is getting paid to sell out his own family in my book that makes him a traitor guilty of high treason!!
dan32749 2 months ago
@dan32749 He sure is! He's non-stop, don't quit. It's probably the same shill the deleted his account before. He acts just like him and gives the same references over and over. *smh
xtymiller 2 months ago
@dan32749 I am just here for the entertainment of seeing just how stupid you and your buddies really are! I need something to kill time and give me a good laugh everyday!
ChrisArcen 2 months ago 2
@ChrisArcen Keep laughing as the country crumbles around you , i bet you won't be laughing for long.
dan32749 2 months ago
@dan32749 The whole world is crumbling around us but it is not because the government is "spraying us" or that they or "controlling the weather". The people and big business has a lot more to do with it than all the governments put together.
watch?v=A9CMTj-GXgQ
watch?v=QJvifVrGi8o
Persistent contrails have been around since the 30s. I saw plenty of them in the 70s and 80s.
watch?v=zDdxb6W7nWU
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
A 2002 report notes that: "over the last 25 years, the US Navy [has released from planes] several hundred thousand pounds of aluminized chaff during flight operations over a training area on the Chesapeake Bay."
xtymiller 2 months ago
@xtymiller Yes military planes release chaff during training what does that have to do with anything? Chaff is long strips of metal and nothing anybody is going to breath in.
learnnc. org/lp/media/uploads/2009/12/chaff_crop.jpg
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
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Ya gotta love the morons shills that say oh when the atmospheric conditions are right con trails just last long. Ya ok so every day in almost all the cities around the world the atmospheric conditions are right every day for month's straight!!!
dan32749 2 months ago
"the U.S. is creating new integral geophysical weapons (HAARP) that may influence the near-Earth medium with high-frequency radio waves ... The significance of this qualitative leap could be compared to the transition from cold steel to fire arms, or from conventional weapons to nuclear weapons. This new type of weapons differs from previous types in that the near-Earth medium becomes at once an object of direct influence and its component."
xtymiller 2 months ago
@xtymiller HAARP is not a weapon it cannot control the weather, cause earthquakes, or anything else. If you do some research you will find out that HAARP's transmitters can only put out 3.6 megawatts of power. A single lighting bolt has over a gigawatt (1,000 megawatts) of power. You are very gullible and ignorant, that is a very bad combination.
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
@ChrisArcen The only ignorant one here is you we out number you by a million to one you are the one that looks pretty stupid on here telling everyone the same thing over and over again. Thank god there are way more people that know ,you are full of shit or just really stupid enjoy your stupidity shill.
dan32749 2 months ago
@dan32749 I'm not stupid and I'm not a shill. And if I was so stupid how come so many people follow what I post..?? I have way more support than you think.
xtymiller 2 months ago
@dan32749 I have almost 20,000 followers on twitter and facebook, and they come from all over the world. Many are awake and aware of the aerosol programs in their countries, and we all share information with each other. Thousands of photos that are nothing close to normal airline activity. They're geo-engineering programs that change weather. They can do so with heavy spraying of chemtrails. They can cover a clear sky within a matter of hours if they wish to. I've photo-documented it many times!
xtymiller 2 months ago
@xtymiller That is because you have found about 20,000 really stupid people! Stupid people are breading much faster now than intelligent people that are busy with their careers. Watch the movie "Idiocracy" that is where the world is headed.
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
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xtymiller 2 months ago
@xtymiller That don't mean shit ! Have you seen our schools compared to other countries i would not be bragging about that it just tells me your another american idiot that thinks he's smart . Plus the fact that you think there is contrails everyday around the world that last for hours your argument is weak as hell and you are probably a shill anyway.
dan32749 2 months ago
@dan32749 I know all about our school system, and it's sad to say the least... And I didn't say nothing about there being contrails everyday around the world did I?? No. I don't see chemtrails everyday either... only on spray days. Lately it's been very clear, but the only thing in the sky has been short quick dissipating contrails, and no long lasting chemtrails that for maybe 4-5 days now. And FYI, shills reply to all the chemtrail comments and try and tell them they're nothing but contrails.
xtymiller 2 months ago
@xtymiller Well i must have thought you we're someone else , if you know about chemtrails then your alright in my book and i am truely sorry i must have sent a message to the wrong person.
dan32749 2 months ago
@dan32749 Right on. And thanks for the friend invite... Keep on truthin!
xtymiller 2 months ago
@dan32749 I have worked with Geniuses at the Maui Research and Technology Center as a computer programmer, unix system, and support technician... please stop trying to degrade me. I'm certainly no dummy.
xtymiller 2 months ago
@dan32749 I keep saying the same thing because the truth does not change. Enjoy your paranoid retardation.
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
In April 1997, U.S. Secretary of Defense William Cohen publicly discussed the dangers of HAARP-like technology, saying "others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves... So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations... It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts."
xtymiller 2 months ago
@xtymiller The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) is a research project not a weapon!
haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/faq.html
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
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God forbid 2 planes ever cross
If planes never crossed paths (aka never made "X" in the sky), we would have to fly directly east-west, north-south all the time.
Therefore, If I wanted to fly from Chicago to Dallas, I would have to make sure NEVER to cross the path of a New York - Los Angeles plane, else an X appear somewhere over the sky
tdonohuel 2 months ago
The government allows open air research done over populated areas for "friendly purposes"... this would definitely qualify as such.
xtymiller 2 months ago
Surely they've tried the methods mentioned in the University of Calgary Climate Conference on Geo-engineering... using Aluminum and Barium salts and oxides to create faux ionized Aluminum/Barium clouds via chemtrail spray planes. The trails I see glow very brightly... illuminated like mentioned below in the NASA barium ion clouds patent info.
xtymiller 2 months ago
selectively permitting fluid flow from fuel tank & oxidizer tank into combustion chamber, a liquid fuel having a quantity of barium salts dissolved in fuel tank, a liquid oxidizer disposed in oxidizer tank, liquid fuel & liquid oxidizer having inherent chemical property characteristics of undergoing a hypergolic reaction upon contact w/ each other whereby..... resulting hypergolic reaction releases high yield of luminous barium atoms & ions. (BASICALLY SAYING THEY CAN AND DO MAKE CLOUDS)
xtymiller 2 months ago
@xtymiller Water vapor creates the clouds, barium or aluminum could not with the heat in the combustion chambers. The temperature of the burning fuel in the combustion chamber of a jet engine is about 2000ºC / 3600ºF.
Aluminum's melting point is 660.37 °C / 1220.66 °F and Barium’s melting point is 727 °C / 1341 °F neither one would make it through the combustion process.
The combustion chamber is made from titanium and it needs to be cooled to keep it from melting.
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
@ChrisArcen Well, the patents regarding chemtrail tech don't specify that the insertion of the chemicals is in the combustion chamber. The patents I've seen are attached to the exhaust. Whether they're mounted INSIDE the engine at all isn't clear to me. I see no reason they couldn't do this on the exterior of the engine, but still acheive it's insertion into the exhaust gases. Seems logical to me.
hotchkissrecords 2 months ago
@hotchkissrecords There is at least two things with that theory that is illogical
1. The exhaust gases would still be hot enough to melt the metals until it was out of the engine and able to cool off.
2. If the plane was spraying anything from inside the engine or from the wings the trail would start at the plane, like with a crop duster, and not far back from the engines.
Show me one video of a persistent trail where the trail starts at the plane.
watch?v=ZAY0MKMk6Gw
ChrisArcen 2 months ago 2
@ChrisArcen In any case. Analysis of these "persistent contrails"...chemtrails (you Frank Luntz wannabe) show HIGH amounts of Aluminum and Barium. Analysis of precipitation on mountain tops show the same. Analysis of soil from runoff show the same. Analysis of soil from NON-runoff locations show the same. All at levels beyond the point requiring government action to stop it. Believe it or not, it's happening. Regardless whether or not you choose to accept it.
hotchkissrecords 2 months ago
@hotchkissrecords Testing ground and water samples does not prove where the contaminates came from. Aluminum is the most abundant element on Earth and ground sources pump ton of pollution into the air everyday. One of the biggest sources of mercury is coal fired power plants.
watch?v=A9CMTj-GXgQ
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
@ChrisArcen You're right. It doesn't prove where. Just that there is more than an abundance of it to REQUIRE government action to stop it. Which hasn't happened, and likely wont (seeing how our government officials treat everyone when approached about the subject). The same tests did not show a dangerous level of mercury. So, I guess I don't get your point about the source of mercury. So what, it's not at a dangerous level like the aluminum and barium happens to be.
hotchkissrecords 2 months ago
@ChrisArcen On top of all of this, what's the point of all the patents then? Why have them? You can go look them up just like the folks in the surrounding comments have. Are the patents just a bunch of hooey? They ARE REAL. They exist.
hotchkissrecords 2 months ago
@hotchkissrecords There are patents for cancer cures that don't work either. Somebody comes up with a idea and files for a patent, it is just a piece of paperwork. Patents are not proof that anything works or that anything is being done.
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
@ChrisArcen That's not what I asked. I asked what the point was. Why make it? Regardless of proof that it works, what's the reason for even trying?
hotchkissrecords 2 months ago
@hotchkissrecords The point is that some dumb ass wanted a patent and submitted the paperwork for it. People have tried to make a lot of stupid thing before and their idea of what it could be used for is probably a lot different that what you think it is.
ChrisArcen 2 months ago 2
@ChrisArcen That is not a reason. That's HOW. Not why. That's like saying: what's the point of the chicken crossing the road? The point is that a damn chicken crossed the road. Period.
hotchkissrecords 2 months ago
@hotchkissrecords The point is it does not matter if the chicken got smashed into the road or made it across. It is still just a piece of paper and it is not proof of anything.
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
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@hotchkissrecords The point is it does not matter if the chicken got smashed into the road or made it across. It is still just a piece of paper and it is not proof of anything.
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
@hotchkissrecords It depends where the test where taken as to what types of pollution you will find. Test taken closer to a power plant will show more mercury that one farther away. Mercury is heaver than aluminum so it will not stay airborne and travel as far.
ecomall.com/greenshopping/cleanair.htm
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
@ChrisArcen Right. The tests taken that found extremely high amounts of aluminum and barium were not near a source that spews aluminum and barium.
hotchkissrecords 2 months ago
@hotchkissrecords It did not have to be next to a site pumping out pollution. Pollution travels in the air for miles and the air currents can bring a lot of it together in one place, just like the ocean currents have created the Great Pacific Garbage Patch that is twice the size of Texas.
watch?v=tnUjTHB1lvM
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
@ChrisArcen "it did not have to be next to...pumping...pollution" But then what the hell was the point of saying: "Test[s] taken closer to a power plant..." We're talking about heavy metals. Your claim is that jet engines will melt the solution and [cause it to fall immediately to the ground, hence 'melted'], yet you back it up with the fact that air currents carry things miles and miles away? You are arguing against yourself now. Air is quite a bit different than the ocean.
hotchkissrecords 2 months ago
@hotchkissrecords I did not say that they would melt it and it would fall to the ground. If the engine melted the metals some of the liquid would evaporate, the impurities would burn, and the rest would either be blown out or stick to the parts of the engines. When the engine would be shut down the remaining metal would reset making it impossible to restart the engine. That is why it is not possible that metals could be in the fuel.
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
@ChrisArcen As I said before, there are plenty of patents that do NOT involve the fuel. There are plenty that are on the exterior of the engine near the exhaust (as well as ones that would be in other places on the plane). Thus, even if it melted, it doesn't matter, it's already on the outside of the engine. Thus, not affecting the internal components or function of the engine.
hotchkissrecords 2 months ago
@hotchkissrecords Like I said before that does not matter. Passenger jets do not have enough room left over to carry enough chemicals or metals to leave trails that are miles long and the military does not have enough planes to fly around leaving all the persistent trails we see all over the world every day.
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
@hotchkissrecords Here is two thing that show that this is a joke.
1. The law of diminishing returns: The more weight you add to a plane the more fuel you need, more fuel means more weight which requires more fuel...
ChrisArcen 2 months ago 2
@hotchkissrecords 2. Occam's Razor: States that with all things being equal the simplest explanation is usually the correct one.
Now which is the simplest
The government of the world have gotten together spending trillions of dollars to spray us and themselves with chemicals and metals and no hard evidence has ever leak out.
or
Hot air hitting freezing air produces condensation that turns into ice crystals forming cirrus clouds that can persist for hours.
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
@hotchkissrecords Air is not that different than the ocean and it can carry thing miles away. A piece of steel will fall out of the sky faster than a feather that can float and a small piece of mercury will fall out of the sky faster than a small piece of aluminum that can float farther. If air currents cannot carry things for miles then why did the volcanic eruption on Iceland in 2010 stop air traffic if Europe?
en.wikipedia. org/wiki/2010_eruptions_of_Eyjafjallajokull
ChrisArcen 2 months ago 2
@hotchkissrecords If a plane sprayed something out at thousands of feet it would be so dispersed by the time it hit the ground that it would be undetectable. If a crop duster tried to dust a field from a thousand feet how much of the pesticide do you think would actually land on the field?
watch?v=ZAY0MKMk6Gw
ChrisArcen 2 months ago 2
@ChrisArcen But I thought you said that it would melt immediately, thus, disbursement would NOT happen. You claimed that the theory, as patented, of aerosol additives or post-exhaust disbursement COULD NOT happen, period. Now you're arguing the part of possible disbursement, but that now the tests can't be accurate...blah blah blah. Ladies and gentlemen, I think we have ourselves an operative! Spreading false logic, hoping that it will take root. Nice try, thanks for playing.
hotchkissrecords 2 months ago
@hotchkissrecords Show me one of your "chemtrails" that dose not start far behind the engines which proves it is a contrail. When anything is sprayed from a plane the trail starts at the plane like during a fuel dump are from a crop duster.
It is not false logic it is just logic you cannot understand.
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
@hotchkissrecords I said if they did spray something, meaning from a place other than the engines, like a fuel dump or a crop-duster. You are just not capable of understanding logic.
ChrisArcen 2 months ago
@hotchkissrecords OK,you have absolutely no idea about anything, thats pretty clear! Why you trust yourself in having an opinion on anything is beyond me!To give you an idea how a combustion engine works,fuel has to be clean,infact before the fuel even gets to the engine it must pass through a filter.In jet aircraft I believe it passes through 4.FOUR!To set an engine up to accept such impurities would require a complete re-design and would mean THOUSANDS of mechanics on in this
riceburnagtv 2 months ago