Ha Shabbat p2

[Truth77Absolute]

The constant movement of time going foward is" work."

[Truth77Absolute]

If it is true that we will work in heaven it wont be like work here. Spirit of grace makes evetyhing even work not seem like its tiring. So, if we do work in heaven we will do it while we are in constant Sabbaht rest. Work will probably be just to worship and praise God constantly anyway.

[Truth77Absolute]

The future is in the present. Life is in the present. So we should not only worship God on one day but everyday of the week. As long as we live in time present we should always worship God. But Like you said, we have the seventh day sabbath to keep us in order because we are sinners and God knew this so he needed to create this holy day to be his symbol. He said to "remember" his sabbath day.

[Duchessyork]

Additionally, I say, This man who produces these videos IS a BELOVED child of the Living Elohim. Whether or not we agree or disagree, YeShua NEVER chastizes HIS children in public: He TEACHES them, in private.

Please, Brothers and Sisters, conduct yourselves in the LOVE of Christ toward one another.

[Duchessyork]

Brothers and Sisters: I've been in the wilderness awhile but now, by the Grace of Elohim, I have returned.

I won't debate or argue in public forums anymore. I have you all as friends I believe now; I also have a new email I've been messaging you about. I will gladly show anyone who asks, exactly what YeShua HaMashiach (Jesus the Messiah) showed the men on the road and that is this:

The Tree of Life IS Yeshua; Torah IS the Tree of Life; Yeshua and Torah are inseparable.

[jamlimited3]

Hey thanks sis. I respect your stance. Me on the other hand, Im preprared to contend for my beliefs with good answers(sort of the purpose of my channel is to gve and refine good theology to the believer and even to the one who doubts...I believe good theology mixed with its application through the action of love and obedience and integrity is a key to true and effective converting to the Kingdom).

Jesus argued more than anyone in scripture but wisely...like Him I too wont argue forever. ^__^

[baalteshuva]

if we're going to call ourselves followers of Jesus.... maybe we should actually start following His example and live the holy life he lived obeying the LAWS OF GOD.

Or maybe Jesus is returning for a rebellious, lawless, people who ignore His teachings and example... hmmm some kingdom that would be. I doubt it.

Revelation 12;17 and 14:12 both teach about the "mighty ones" Jesus spoke who would be great in the kingdom who have testimony of Yeshua AND OBEY THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD.

[jamlimited3]

If we are going to be followers of Jesus why dont we be OBEDIENT to Him rather than obedient to our own pride that would have us strive to do SACRIFICE of the like He has not called us to.

Read Galatians again...Im following Jesus just like Paul instructs...not like you instruct nor like Satan would instruct with his perverted interpretation of scripture.

Pharisees are not the same as the Apostles and believrs even as wheat isnt tares, goats arent sheeps, and you are not like me.

[baalteshuva]

"Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord, will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven but those who do the will of my Father in Heaven. Many will say to me in that day Lord, Lord ... and I will say to them get out of my sight you who practice LAWLESSNESSS." Matthew 7:21-23

"Whoever obeys the least of these commandments (from the Laws of Moses) and teaches others to do the same will be great, mighty, feared and dreaded in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:17-20

[jamlimited3]

Whoever obeys...YES indeed and only Yeshua has obeyed the Torah's commands for to break one is to fail the whole Torah and be in need of Atonement which animal blood PICTURED but was not.

Dont forget what awaits those who break the commands...everyone has broken them hence your dilemma and constant need for Tora's Atonement...yet Atonement has done His duty and and those who've enter His Passover door of blood have new instructions to be obedient to(unlike the PICTURE Law called Tora).

[baalteshuva]

The girls are getting you man. You are in error. We could get deep into what Paul really taught and believed, for example he never stopped following the Torah he even offered sacrifices in the Temple to prove that, Acts 21:19-26. But lets keep it simple:

1. Is Jesus (Yeshua) our Perfect Example? Of course He is.

2. As our Perfect Example are we not to live our lives EXACTLY as He live His?

Absolutely.

3. Did He ever sin? or break God's Laws?

Absolutely not.

4. Why do you?

[jamlimited3]

No girls are getting me and getting me to do what? Becoem religious like you? No sir...circumcision and avoiding chairs which women have sat in during their cycle is not for me. Even in days of old they were NOT religous commands but governmental laws which PICTURED the law in heaven. Adam lived in God's perfect paradise which stood on the laws of heaven, time, space, and all other laws in creation. Moses' tora and the temple on earth are but pictures of a Real deal...Im with the real deal.

[Duchessyork]

Our instructions do not include "obeying" the Sabbath, but KEEPING it. There is nothing of Paul's teachings which conflicts with Sabbath Keeping; if you think there is, then you do not understand the Scriptures.

[jamlimited3]

As a former Gentile or Heathen I must know my relationship to the Sabbath. I am never informed that I MUST "keep" it nor the act of circumcision BUT on the contrary Im told that I have entered a rest and I am shown through revelation that the Sabbath, like lamb's blood, was given to the Jews of old as a picture of things to come called FULFILLMENTS. Hence Yeshua fulfilled Tora as it POINTED to Atonement in all its demands and Yeshua is that. Sabbath actually has meaning. Im in no error here.

[jamlimited3]

Im assuming you were speaking to me sister Duchess but if you were speaking to Kitten(as it seems you were which makes more sense, my apologies) then I must affirm what you said in response to him and I must look puzzled at his comment since it seems to lack place in light of what I say in this video. Bless you sister...my apologies...but my comment is sharp or no? Id like your input. ^__^

[Kittenkattan]

So, Paul over rides both Yeshua and G-d. Interesting.

[Kittenkattan]

Yes, but do you obey the Shabbat? And if you do, then you must obey all the Mitzvot.

If you obey G-d's Torah you then you may be in conflict with Paul's doctrine in Galatians. How do you resolve that?

[jamlimited3]

Im not under the picture law called Tora though I revere it and study it in all it pictures. I live by the wisdom that is the word of God found within it as such would see me glean godly culture as not to embrace ungodliness. Such will be done when Yeshua returns and grants us a more god honoring culture in which feasts can and will be celebrated including the Sabbath. Likewise I dont go to the temple in Jerusalem but I revere what it pictures...my Father's temple. Good answer? ^__^

[Kittenkattan]

Actually, it is a bad anwer. So, then, you are for murdering people, committing Adultry, and Dishonoring your parents? These are "Pictures" of G-d's (L'alom Vaed) "Forever/Eternal" Covenant. It is interesting that folks fear the police (a man) for speeding (a man's law), but have no problem disobeying G-d's! It says something about that person. It says that we fear men not G-d. A sad practice.

[jamlimited3]

Its silly to assume that because someone is not under the bondage of Torah/Law then they are against it. The angels in heaven ARE NOT under the Torah Moses wrote but I know even as they are called sons of God that they walk in the FULLNESS of God's will UNLIKE men who are under the PICTURE of God's UNCHANGING Law for the godkind. We who are of the godkind walk in this revelation embracing TRUTH and forsaking the justification many seek in RETURNING to the laws of ANCIENT Israel.