You know very little about what you are doing... If you found yourself in a survival situation in a urban enviroment suh as the one you are in, you could stay in a house? Maybe hotel? Trailer? Several places that would be abandoned.
And your recon sleeping bag is great. Remember a -10 degree temperature isn't going to keep EVERYONE nice and warm. Someone like myself who has been in the element a lot more would problably be much warmer than you. You would of froze your ass off w/o that bag...
Thanks for being willing to do the experiment and video It would be nice to see a comparison with a feathered friends or Western Mountainering bag - Especially since you wisely point put the size a& weight of the Wiggy's bag. Furthermore I can't help but think that a bevy system would lower the temp rating of any bag.
winter bugging out in ontario: heat rocks by the fire, slip in socks when warm (or otrher material) then when its bed time, place 2 near head, 1 large near chest, another near legs, then one more near feet. Also bring reusable heat packs (at least 2) which you can boil the next day for re-use. Bring Lots of warm socks, tuques, maybe even face mask. Place bag near your body so it absorbs your heat and reflects infrared during the night. Good luck guys!
Though this is Completely unrelated , i would like to know your opinion on what a person under the age of 18 should do if he wants to prepare for survival , yet his parents wont let him?
@survivalofthekit Don't panic, truth is there's more time than you think to prepare. Focus on learning useful skills, not acquiring items, you'll have some time to get them when you're older and there'll be a bit of warning before stuff gets super bad and you'll know to act on it first. I'd say keep cool, learn about what can grow in your area and what seeds you'll need, learn about firearms, local useful flora and fauna, shelter building, and pretend it's just a hobby of yours, good stuff to no
@survivalofthekit Work on things that they will agree with like becoming ambidextrous, getting in shape physically, primitive skills, researching and that kind of benign stuff. Just make sure you clear it with them first. Make it about connecting with nature and community since that's what I think survivalism is all about. As for your parents, who doesn't want their kid connecting with nature and becoming more involved in the community?
Motor-vehicles and any metal containers are the coldest mo-fo's you can ever attempt to take shelter in... Street-folk have it sussed; card-board boxes (as small as you can comfortable get into, with plenty of insulation from the ground. Wrap yourself in a space-blanket, keep your head/face wrapped-up in a snoop, get you ass in a couple of plastic rubbish-bags and get out of all forms or drought or breeze and you'll be half-way to comfy.
I think a lot of sleeping bags rate their lowest temperature based on the person inside wearing thick cold weather gear. Our bags in the Army were rated for -50F but that's while wearing our extreme cold weather gear (AKA the bear suit). wearing just underclothes it was ok down to about +32F for me but body mass will also effect the amount of insulation you'll need.
I have the exact same backpack you have, what is the model? What army use that? Big capacity but no back and waist support, I can't seem to find then anymore.
you can get a good winter BOB that weighs about 30/40 pounds with food and shelter in, i have a year round one that weighs about 60 pound, and yes i can run in it, im used to running with a 100lbs on, ill give you some suggestions if you wish, pm or email me if you can im not too sure :')
I gotta hand it to you - your did some real world testing and that's exactly why you will probably survive a real emergency situation. Great video. Thanks for sharing.
i know this is a jackass comment but im drunk and you look like a preppy fuck who has never evan left his parents backyard, but the vid is common sense
@blackdiamondhill You seem to not understand the point of this. You have a Bug Out Bag (BOB) for situations where you have to leave where ever you are. If there is a hurricane on it's way or the river near your house is flooding, staying at home might not be the best idea. If you HAVE to leave, having a backpack full of supplies is better than having nothing. You should also have a bug out location (BOL) to go to in emergencies. The BOB helps you get to your BOL.
A good way to keep warm is to throw some heat packs in your bob. When chilling out or sleeping you can toss them in your sleeping bag and it will warm you up really quick.
A couple of 55 Gal. heavy duty contractor can be filled with shredded newpaper, carboard, leaves, pine needles, etc. and added as a thermal layer. A water bottle filled with hot water and kept in your bag helps, and heated rocks or brick can be used in a "fire-bed" buried 6" under your sleeping surface. Eating some hot, fatty food before retiring helps keep your body temp up. A Blizzard bag or Emergency Bivy would be ultra-light solutions worth testing w/ your original bag.
I think that getting a proper sleeping bag, never mind the size, (within reason) and strapping it to your pack would be a better choice. Rather than having something small IN your bag that isn't adequate. An ALICE pack would be ideal for that kind of setup. (at least I think so)
Drinking and eating right is just as important as your gear. Too keep up your body temperature.. Make sure you wave your arms and do some pushups just to get the blood flowing in the body before you get in to your sleepingbag!
Your doing it the right way. Finding out what works and what doesn't before you actually need it. Many people will laugh and say "What an idiot", but during survival training I tried the absolute minimum of equipment; A light tarp, canteen, and bannana knife. I put down a 2 1/2 foot thick bed of pine bows after getting a small fire started and bedded down. 3 hours later I was feeding my bed to the fire wrapped up in the tarp and praying for a sleeping bag. Keep upgrading as you test your stuff.
Dude, I can understand your need to try this out, and you do admit you got a lot to learn. still, I would not buddy up with you. Not yet, anyway. But still, a lot of fun to do, yeah?
Cool idea, but I would'nt have actually camped out for real like you did though. Kinda dangerous for no real gain. You could have just recced around for potiential areas in the industrial wasteland like you did but camped somewhere with similar conditions but safer where you had permission to start a fire etc. The bag of rocks thing was hilarious.
Hmm, I am guessing you could not keep a fire going or you would have been spotted. But I wonder if you just carried a tarp and built a tent with it, would that keep enough of the wind off so your bag would suffice? But really the biggest thing is fire, with a good fire you don't even need a winter sleeping bag.
Thanks for the honesty, bro. I appreciate seeing the "warts and all," and as others have mentioned, people have BOBs that are untested. The border between faith and insanity gets blurred.
By the way, I saw that plywood, wicker chair & bag of rocks as a home, myself. The truck would've been an awesome shelter, but, I read that scene as "no vacancy."
@antiphony33 I'm right there with you. In the Marines we routinely did 20k humps with 60# packs, and another 15# in field gear. I've had to cover Camp Pendleton hills with a 130# pack before. People just need to learn to push out of the comfort zone. Just because a person is miserable does NOT mean "they can't do it".
Very smart. My son and I have fun testing our gear and its limitations. This is a must before you have to use it for real! Shelter is #1 especially in your neck of the woods. Keep it up and keep warm!
"You can't stay in the city, too many gangs and hungry people. The nicest guy in town is not going to let his kids starve. He will rob you. An even bigger problem is having a woman with you. Get a gun. Men will do crazy things for a woman." lol we are animals i swear :p
id break into the industrial buildings if the SHTF really hard. but i guess you thought of that too. :-) Ilove the ide of actually trying the BOB in RL. Keep it up. :-)
Dude...drop the German folding shovel and get yourself a 10oz garden shovel or something. I found one at a Goodwill store for $1.00. That will save you about 5lbs. I've sewn a ripstop tarp for myself that weighs less than 2lbs with guy lines, stakes, and poles. You could find a place for something that light. Just some food for thought.
wow man, i would learn how to build a shelter from nature. pine trees are great, use to put below you and around you. you can find some great shelter building vids on here.
Very good video. But remember, this is peacetime. It will be quite different when the SHTF. You will have to get out of the city. Head for the woods. Make sure you have a good pellet gun. That way you can hunt small game without drawing attention with gunfire. You can't stay in the city, too many gangs and hungry people. The nicest guy in town is not going to let his kids starve. He will rob you. An even bigger problem is having a woman with you. Get a gun. Men will do crazy things for a woman.
Thanks for sharing. It's nice to see someone actually put their system to the test. The only thing you can't test is the 50,000 other desperate people looking around for the same thing in a disaster situation.
I have a gas mask in my bugout bag but to be honest it's not really a "need" item mostly because sure it could help you for about 3 hours but it's not like in the movies when they have a gas mask for days. The typical charcoal filter civillian gas mask is only good for about 3 hours of heavy chemical attacks.
I have a gas mask in my bugout bag but to be honest it's not really a "need" item mostly because sure it could help you for about 3 hours but it's not like in the movies when they have a gas mask for days. The typical charcoal filter civillian gas mask is only good for about 3 hours of heavy chemical attacks.
@unrulyierulli1 You can't leave me hanging like that! Tell me more. Do you have a video or any other info? I'm here to learn, and it sounds like you have some good info. Please share.
@envirosponsible the biggest key is to dress in layers, have a good sleeping bag and have high calorie food rich in protein carbs and fats as fat is basically concentrated calories. next if you are in an area where you can get away from the wind that is best. also stay hydrated so your cells can thermoregulate themselves. wools and fleece as well as a good base like silk or polypro or such that wicks. the us military makes a great modular sleep system. I'll get back to you with more a bit later
@envirosponsible Have you read 98 degrees when all hell breaks loose? He show's some real interesting methods. Also Hood's Woods Urban Survival. Your from Ontario? I have some friends up your way that own a survival school. Email me for the details.
@envirosponsible unrulyierulli1 is correct. The only 'problem' is a bag like that is not cheap by any means. My BOB is such a bag, weighs 24.7lbs and i have personally used it to sleep outside at +0.3F in Colorado, no sleeping bag or tent. Mind you, my clothing alone is well over $400 US, so is by no means cheap, but it gets the job done for little weight. I also very VERY carefully choose what I pack, only the essentials, no fluff. I am going to be making a video soon showing what gear I chose.
I'm going to do some research into finding the lightest, strongest bolt cutters I can find to put in my BOB. I Know that blue truck was someone's property, but if you really needed it, that'd be an awesome(Arguably mobile) shelter. All I would need is to cut that tiny bar holding the lock together. I'm not supporting breaking and entering, but if there's no law, Bolt/lock cutters would be great if you needed to get into some place really really badly.
Failure? Well maybe, but only if you did not learn from the experience. If you have learned from this, and make the needed changes, then it's not really a complete fail. Now you know more, and will not fail the same way again.
The main point of this video that many are not getting is that you tested your kit and have realised that it was not suitable for the winter months. I bet many survivalists have BOB but have never actually tried them out over night or longer.
When people build their BOB's wrong they put themselves at risk. However they also put others and myself at risk.. When they don't shelter they tend to look for places to break into, food to steal (72hrs goes by fast), lack of water and hunting skills make them a threat. Most of all that ASSAULT RIFLE and all that ammo makes him a possible bandit, looter threat. I say this because a person will do anything to feed his family if forced in "TSHTF" times. They may turn into bandits to get food
My current BOB weighs 47lbs with at least 10days food. The patrol pack weigh 3lbs., and my rifle weighs 6lbs. I am currently working on the caches of food that will supplement my Bug out retreat. I have 6 food caches, 3 ammo caches, 1 tool cache. All this food,ammo,tools are buried around the bug out retreat in case i have to bail out of it. I intend to BUG IN as long as possible. Bugging out really sucks, and should be look at more extreme. That brings me to my point....
I apologize for my over aggressive comments. I just get upset when I see all these BOB's made almost like a refugee homeless attitude, and the over GI-joe version with Assault rifles and tons of ammo. Both are lacking proper survival gear. I really think people want to put themselves into the survival mode by bringing the so called portable survival gear. You don't have too do that because you are making your kit now. You need to make a good kit. I'll put my current BOB on the YT
let's break down this exercise : First you are trespassing on other property (1st mistake) You must stealth camp. Not in the open (2nd mistake) unknown places means, you need to be unknown. What are you doing in the open??? I heard you mention shelter? SHELTER IS #1, more important than food, water, fire. You don't have a tent (Tent = awesome protection from elements) but you carry junk like a shovel. Get a tent then talk to me about BOB. You can bury yourself with the shovel for shelter.
That all said, DO THIS::: Build your BOB to live out of. Don't build it to survive with stupid tarps, plastic blankets, 3 days food, low water. I think people have a romantic fantasy of using a tarp and roughing it out. Bringing a big weapon shouting "I Rule". Idiots, or maybe after they run out of food. PROBLEM people. Look at this video. Your first day and you are already a homeless person (refugee). You basically failed (SUCK) at this and need to rethink your plan.
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ANYONE WHO does BUG OUT with out tent, sleeping bag, 7 days food is a "BUG OUT REFUGEE" BUG OUT REFUGEE" BUG OUT REFUGEE" BUG OUT REFUGEE" When you run out of food you will be "LOOTER, BANDIT, TROUBLE, DANGEROUS TO ALL OF THE REAL BUG OUT PEOPLE. You will use your weapon to obtain food and supplies. Therefore you will be the ones we look out for.
How many people could carry a backpack with all the contents you mentioned? My gear weighs about 40 pounds, which is about the max I can carry in evasion situations. The bag you're describing weighs over 60 or 70 pounds. There are very few people who could carry that amount of weight for a few minutes let alone a few days or weeks. My bag is most practical for me because it's stripped down the essentials and is a managable weight. I train in it, so I know the reality of lugging 40lbs.
@envirosponsible My bag weighs a lot too. I was doing a bug out practice where I spent the night in the woods and realized I couldn't even walk half a mile without the bag ripping my shoulders off. The solution I came up with is a small hand cart. That way over long distances you could drag your bag on it and drag it around. Im going to give it a try.
@envirosponsible Im 16 and i wear a 65 pound backpack and carry it for days through thick brush up hills with emergency stuff and im just fine with it, its all about training your body for it. Im in my local Search and Rescue group in the state of washington.
I'd rather have a plan for a food/water supply than 7 days worth of food. As an example, I live in an area filled with wild deer and turkeys. Seeds would be worth far more to me than a weeks worth of MREs. Some things I probably would have to refresh my supplies on, but my gut feeling is that I'm not surrounded by people who would think to take the dryer lint when looting a home.
@TheStealthCamper Also, if the wild life around you was still alive and thriving...you could get some cheap light weight snare wire and trap some food all you want without sacraficing a lot of weight and i agree with envirosponsible because out of all your survival supplies, I would say that food is the most heavy and bulky of them all. Also, a healthy human could go a few weeks without food.
@TheStealthCamper Tents are not needed were I live.. Why would I need a tent? As far as food = Skill . There is food all around us, every where I look . No bag can replace survival skills. 7 days off food is only that.
@TheStealthCamper 8 hours ago .. yep 100% @ hehe yep no one goes long without food !! Got ya back with the good old sks and mr 870 hehe. Now where did envirosponsible put his 200+ lb batery getup XD . Rice, caned fish salmon \ mr. noodles\ Protine powder\ clorine tabs for the water calorie bars, oats, all light and ready to go. ps Im just busting buddies balls as he could be camping in his back yard not in the crackhead blowjob district XD LOL he's like omg someones living\working here 3:10
@TheStealthCamper Absolutely false. ANYONE who knows even the basics of survival will be capable of using what is around in the wilderness (a devastated city would become "wilderness"). Also, I would also love to see you carry everything you say and make it more than a few mile hump. Learn to use what nature provides you and you will only need the very basics for survival, a tent is not one of those things. A "true" survivalist (i.e. first nation person) needs no pack at all.
@TheStealthCamper The First week , people are looking for food, ice, water, Gasoline to run there cars for shelter, AC/heat. The next week there getting pissed off the Govt hasnt came in to assist them , while supplys dwindel. By the third week in a castrophe zone depending on the weather and supplies people are straight up fid up and they start to riote. By the 4 week if theres no supplies or water, ice, blankets, food , the fighting startes, People start robbing each other, street fighting.
@thedomandrayshow The so called 72 Bug Out Bag is a a joke. Just look at all the folks that got hit by the tornadoes. Tell them all they need is a three day pack. After three days most everyone becomes a looter because of false preparing and misleading people. I think they created the 72 bag for quick go go readiness with a real destination. However thats not the case that tends to be really happening on the current news. A longer term bag is a must and should be created and thoughtout
if i can recomend something small traditional 2 man tents are light incredibly easy to set up and can go on you're bag with the sleeping bag youll be good
Like the homeless, you should have been focusing on elevation and enclosure in a cold situation (the taped bundles of slat wood and the plywood would have been a good start). In an actual situation the building would have been a good bet, and yes, there will be others out there looking for the same resources. The words "creepy" and "gross" show that your mind set needs a bit of work. In survival there are only two words, "live" and "die".
One more observation. This is you now, right now pre collapse training. Already you found sighs of other making camp near that truck. I promise you the person (s) that left that gear their will be back. I am very glad you did this. I prove that the concepts should be stealth, and evasion for the city. Only Bug In will work, all other plans a folly. If you don't have a Bug In plan you only have one option. FIGHT OR FLIGHT.
Your first priority is SHELTER, you die in three hours without SHELTER. I suugest the trees, because the hobo's, homeless, and whatever are going to be more geared to looting and will stay near or in buildings, cars, trucks, dumpsters, where ever they can find food, things, or prey on others. Yes, these are the real Zombies. They thrive, live, work off the remains of a post collapsed city. They are the thieves, gangs, the what was 10% crime rate, now the 90% crime rate. They are Zombies.
You did a great service by manning up to that lesson. Hopefully some people will see this, upgrade and stay alive. I probably would have lit a fire under the dumpster and crawled inside. I'm still laughing over the bag of rocks! ;)
Urban BOB si for exiting the city. You either have a good Bug In set up in the city or leave. Even in your present video you found so homeless site. You can't camp in the open. I recommend weapons in this type of Bug Out. You Bug In when in a city or leave. You bug out in the country because the woods provide Food, Shelter, evasion possibilities, water sources, and most of all LESS LOOTERS, BANDITS. 90% pop. in city post collapse will be bandits, gangs, looters, the lowest life left.
Here is an example of winter failure. SURVIVOR MAN "Deep Woods episode" He goes out with a professional hunter, and they both have rifles and skill. They failed..... Wilderness Outfitters, right here on you tube uses a tarp in winter camp video. You can see he fails, he freezing and has to stay up. The tarp does not provide good protection in the winter. You want to stay in one for several days? Just the openness on a clear star night may be to cold. Keep wind out, heat in. TENT!!
You should always have a good SHELTER, tent is best. 7days of FOOD, freeze dried. FIRE, a way of preparing a fire and good fire making skills. WATER, at least two liters or a filter method of getting water. SECURITY, a weapon to hunt and defend yourself and loved ones. REMEMBER this:: Shelter is first, FIre is second, Water is third, Food is fourth Don't be fooled into 72hour BS kit. After 3 days you will go back home to meet up with whoever you are running from and surrender.
Without a tent you are HOBO camping, homeless camping. You put yourself in a self inflicted survival mode because you think you can't bring a tent. Or maybe it's some stupid survival kit fantasy . Anytime you bring a tarp or bivy you opting for skill vs. needed items. Just because all these so called survivalist bring tarps you don't have too. The bring the tarp to show how they can Macho survive and carry more ammo. Don't be like those potential losers. They will bring no food too.
I have through all of your comments and you have raised some good points. I am not into survival but believe many of my bushcrafting and wilderness camping skills could help me in a survival situation. Not Urban though. I would however like to see you BOB. Survivalism and BOB's is an area I would like to research more. I will post a video of a tent constructed from a tarp and would like your opinion. Thanks
Failure is always an option and is an equally valid result. As you know, in a sleeping bag, the insulation on the bottom of the bag is compressed and useless for all practical purposes. That lost insulation value has to be made up with your padding that you sleep on. Try to find an insulated sleeping pad. MEC has a few.
carry a tarp of some kind in your bag.
northernsurvivalist1 1 day ago
You know very little about what you are doing... If you found yourself in a survival situation in a urban enviroment suh as the one you are in, you could stay in a house? Maybe hotel? Trailer? Several places that would be abandoned.
And your recon sleeping bag is great. Remember a -10 degree temperature isn't going to keep EVERYONE nice and warm. Someone like myself who has been in the element a lot more would problably be much warmer than you. You would of froze your ass off w/o that bag...
dave1894 1 week ago
Thanks for being willing to do the experiment and video It would be nice to see a comparison with a feathered friends or Western Mountainering bag - Especially since you wisely point put the size a& weight of the Wiggy's bag. Furthermore I can't help but think that a bevy system would lower the temp rating of any bag.
tubular2times 4 weeks ago
you an get surplus military bag system, one of the warmest options as it has an outer bag made with gore-tex i believe
botiroti1 4 weeks ago
good on you for actually testing out your gear. best way to learn!
tms1234567 1 month ago
Ll bean and lands end have great cold weather gear
cheska576 1 month ago
who knows what happens here at night. LOL
Gameday2159 1 month ago
... Become the creature, reach for the top of the mountain! Eat the creature!
Well ... nice try anyway! Thanks for sharing. (Perhaps I will be able to avoid your mistakes?)
ERICWAGNERSLUCID 2 months ago
@ERICWAGNERSLUCID If you do it will have been well worth it for me.
envirosponsible 2 months ago
winter bugging out in ontario: heat rocks by the fire, slip in socks when warm (or otrher material) then when its bed time, place 2 near head, 1 large near chest, another near legs, then one more near feet. Also bring reusable heat packs (at least 2) which you can boil the next day for re-use. Bring Lots of warm socks, tuques, maybe even face mask. Place bag near your body so it absorbs your heat and reflects infrared during the night. Good luck guys!
mattyelle1 2 months ago
Though this is Completely unrelated , i would like to know your opinion on what a person under the age of 18 should do if he wants to prepare for survival , yet his parents wont let him?
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@survivalofthekit Don't panic, truth is there's more time than you think to prepare. Focus on learning useful skills, not acquiring items, you'll have some time to get them when you're older and there'll be a bit of warning before stuff gets super bad and you'll know to act on it first. I'd say keep cool, learn about what can grow in your area and what seeds you'll need, learn about firearms, local useful flora and fauna, shelter building, and pretend it's just a hobby of yours, good stuff to no
Mehtaphorical 2 months ago
@survivalofthekit Work on things that they will agree with like becoming ambidextrous, getting in shape physically, primitive skills, researching and that kind of benign stuff. Just make sure you clear it with them first. Make it about connecting with nature and community since that's what I think survivalism is all about. As for your parents, who doesn't want their kid connecting with nature and becoming more involved in the community?
envirosponsible 2 months ago
You should have slept in the dumpster.
unholymeatshield 3 months ago
@unholymeatshield I know. I don't have many regrets but that's one of them.
envirosponsible 2 months ago
Get yourself a silk liner for your sleeping bag.
You would not believe how much of a temperature boost it gives you. and it takes up no space.
No BOB should ever be without.
qwiksquirrel 3 months ago 3
@qwiksquirrel Very interesting. I'll have to get on it and try it out.
envirosponsible 2 months ago
Motor-vehicles and any metal containers are the coldest mo-fo's you can ever attempt to take shelter in... Street-folk have it sussed; card-board boxes (as small as you can comfortable get into, with plenty of insulation from the ground. Wrap yourself in a space-blanket, keep your head/face wrapped-up in a snoop, get you ass in a couple of plastic rubbish-bags and get out of all forms or drought or breeze and you'll be half-way to comfy.
Original50 3 months ago
I think a lot of sleeping bags rate their lowest temperature based on the person inside wearing thick cold weather gear. Our bags in the Army were rated for -50F but that's while wearing our extreme cold weather gear (AKA the bear suit). wearing just underclothes it was ok down to about +32F for me but body mass will also effect the amount of insulation you'll need.
buckstarchaser 4 months ago
I have the exact same backpack you have, what is the model? What army use that? Big capacity but no back and waist support, I can't seem to find then anymore.
shurapova 4 months ago
you can get a good winter BOB that weighs about 30/40 pounds with food and shelter in, i have a year round one that weighs about 60 pound, and yes i can run in it, im used to running with a 100lbs on, ill give you some suggestions if you wish, pm or email me if you can im not too sure :')
phunkyphantom619 5 months ago
I gotta hand it to you - your did some real world testing and that's exactly why you will probably survive a real emergency situation. Great video. Thanks for sharing.
biscuitfarmer 6 months ago
It is very good that you tested out your gear. No one ever seems to do that. I think that is the best point of your video. :)
TwoSpiritSurvival 6 months ago
Vagrant , Bag Of Rocks , Creepsters , You Sure Are Canadian...
survivalofthekit 7 months ago
@survivalofthekit Oh, and Bug- oot, and aboot.
GunCollecter96 7 months ago
i know this is a jackass comment but im drunk and you look like a preppy fuck who has never evan left his parents backyard, but the vid is common sense
fightinsoldier2347 8 months ago
i hope i don't have to bug oat.
Bieberhole 8 months ago 2
go nick the creepsters blankets dude, this is survival of the fittest !
SuperAndyyyy 8 months ago
@blackdiamondhill You seem to not understand the point of this. You have a Bug Out Bag (BOB) for situations where you have to leave where ever you are. If there is a hurricane on it's way or the river near your house is flooding, staying at home might not be the best idea. If you HAVE to leave, having a backpack full of supplies is better than having nothing. You should also have a bug out location (BOL) to go to in emergencies. The BOB helps you get to your BOL.
purplemutantas 8 months ago
A good way to keep warm is to throw some heat packs in your bob. When chilling out or sleeping you can toss them in your sleeping bag and it will warm you up really quick.
ToddIngram1000 9 months ago
Tents are nice!
1s1t1e1v1e1 9 months ago
ahhhh...canada the land of riches. really no joke here in oklahoma their would be pervert stashes in the truck.
killkill120 9 months ago
A couple of 55 Gal. heavy duty contractor can be filled with shredded newpaper, carboard, leaves, pine needles, etc. and added as a thermal layer. A water bottle filled with hot water and kept in your bag helps, and heated rocks or brick can be used in a "fire-bed" buried 6" under your sleeping surface. Eating some hot, fatty food before retiring helps keep your body temp up. A Blizzard bag or Emergency Bivy would be ultra-light solutions worth testing w/ your original bag.
hazeywolf 10 months ago
I think that getting a proper sleeping bag, never mind the size, (within reason) and strapping it to your pack would be a better choice. Rather than having something small IN your bag that isn't adequate. An ALICE pack would be ideal for that kind of setup. (at least I think so)
Rossco139 11 months ago
Drinking and eating right is just as important as your gear. Too keep up your body temperature.. Make sure you wave your arms and do some pushups just to get the blood flowing in the body before you get in to your sleepingbag!
tjalolx 11 months ago
Your doing it the right way. Finding out what works and what doesn't before you actually need it. Many people will laugh and say "What an idiot", but during survival training I tried the absolute minimum of equipment; A light tarp, canteen, and bannana knife. I put down a 2 1/2 foot thick bed of pine bows after getting a small fire started and bedded down. 3 hours later I was feeding my bed to the fire wrapped up in the tarp and praying for a sleeping bag. Keep upgrading as you test your stuff.
Originaldelsig 11 months ago
Dude, I can understand your need to try this out, and you do admit you got a lot to learn. still, I would not buddy up with you. Not yet, anyway. But still, a lot of fun to do, yeah?
goldenscales 1 year ago
y would you pick that lock it would to you to long just hit it with a HAMMER OR A ROCK it works
huntz2471 1 year ago
Your wife is very very concerned.
solobackpacking 1 year ago
always have your own shelter. you might not be able to find shelter everywhere
TatFreak5150 1 year ago
Cool idea, but I would'nt have actually camped out for real like you did though. Kinda dangerous for no real gain. You could have just recced around for potiential areas in the industrial wasteland like you did but camped somewhere with similar conditions but safer where you had permission to start a fire etc. The bag of rocks thing was hilarious.
OmteZero 1 year ago
omg lmao u find some ones love shack hahaha
shelltech83 1 year ago
Creepsters, rofl. I know you had to have been cold in Feb. in Canada, brrrrrr.
2Bibleppl 1 year ago
Hmm, I am guessing you could not keep a fire going or you would have been spotted. But I wonder if you just carried a tarp and built a tent with it, would that keep enough of the wind off so your bag would suffice? But really the biggest thing is fire, with a good fire you don't even need a winter sleeping bag.
johnmonk66 1 year ago
Thanks for the honesty, bro. I appreciate seeing the "warts and all," and as others have mentioned, people have BOBs that are untested. The border between faith and insanity gets blurred.
By the way, I saw that plywood, wicker chair & bag of rocks as a home, myself. The truck would've been an awesome shelter, but, I read that scene as "no vacancy."
Thanks for sharing your experience.
C24B9 1 year ago
You also could have an outside liner, but remember they also have a polypro liner that add much more warmth without sacrificing space in your bag.
ditchdocdelta 1 year ago
invest in a gortex bivie bag,wind proof,water proof,and 2 zippo hand warmers
MrFes888 1 year ago
never ever ever sleep in the back of a truck,that latch closes when its shut and you will die in there-that lock saved your butt
Hotfries6671 1 year ago
@antiphony33 I'm right there with you. In the Marines we routinely did 20k humps with 60# packs, and another 15# in field gear. I've had to cover Camp Pendleton hills with a 130# pack before. People just need to learn to push out of the comfort zone. Just because a person is miserable does NOT mean "they can't do it".
madcapHPS 1 year ago
Very smart. My son and I have fun testing our gear and its limitations. This is a must before you have to use it for real! Shelter is #1 especially in your neck of the woods. Keep it up and keep warm!
cyclist01222 1 year ago
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"You can't stay in the city, too many gangs and hungry people. The nicest guy in town is not going to let his kids starve. He will rob you. An even bigger problem is having a woman with you. Get a gun. Men will do crazy things for a woman." lol we are animals i swear :p
nephildevil 1 year ago
dude you are freaking hilarious i love this video
dayton112 1 year ago
Borrow in the context he is describing is called theft by finding in the UK lol ;-)
tina6581 1 year ago
by borrow you mean take and leave right
TheSk8erboiz 1 year ago
who knows what happens here at night, hah!
maladettagirl 1 year ago
You actually slept out there? :P
kingewan 1 year ago
id break into the industrial buildings if the SHTF really hard. but i guess you thought of that too. :-) Ilove the ide of actually trying the BOB in RL. Keep it up. :-)
pkbjorn35 1 year ago
oh.....can...I ...da
mcvideo8686 1 year ago
if i saw someone snooping around my property i would propably put a slug through their chest.
Michael117american 1 year ago
Dude...drop the German folding shovel and get yourself a 10oz garden shovel or something. I found one at a Goodwill store for $1.00. That will save you about 5lbs. I've sewn a ripstop tarp for myself that weighs less than 2lbs with guy lines, stakes, and poles. You could find a place for something that light. Just some food for thought.
rlmarin1968 1 year ago
wow man, i would learn how to build a shelter from nature. pine trees are great, use to put below you and around you. you can find some great shelter building vids on here.
wheelori814 1 year ago
Very good video. But remember, this is peacetime. It will be quite different when the SHTF. You will have to get out of the city. Head for the woods. Make sure you have a good pellet gun. That way you can hunt small game without drawing attention with gunfire. You can't stay in the city, too many gangs and hungry people. The nicest guy in town is not going to let his kids starve. He will rob you. An even bigger problem is having a woman with you. Get a gun. Men will do crazy things for a woman.
buddybleau 1 year ago
I'm bettin that East german shovel accounts for half the weight you are packin.... those things are heavy as hell, built w/ tank steel.
59Gretsch 1 year ago
Thanks for sharing. It's nice to see someone actually put their system to the test. The only thing you can't test is the 50,000 other desperate people looking around for the same thing in a disaster situation.
Bryanisms 1 year ago
Rated minus 10, and it goes to -15, the bag will not work. Even minus 11.
odanak100 1 year ago
although you are finding a lot of nice things, stay away from an industrial area like that. All the creeps and crackheads are gonna go there too.
bathroomstrangla 1 year ago
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I have a gas mask in my bugout bag but to be honest it's not really a "need" item mostly because sure it could help you for about 3 hours but it's not like in the movies when they have a gas mask for days. The typical charcoal filter civillian gas mask is only good for about 3 hours of heavy chemical attacks.
MAP14100 1 year ago
I have a gas mask in my bugout bag but to be honest it's not really a "need" item mostly because sure it could help you for about 3 hours but it's not like in the movies when they have a gas mask for days. The typical charcoal filter civillian gas mask is only good for about 3 hours of heavy chemical attacks.
MAP14100 1 year ago
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testbooster 1 year ago
lol a pop up camper! sure they wouldnt mind if you tried it out!
wulfesinger67 1 year ago
Great video!
evankoeve 1 year ago
Well, .. it takes a man to admit failure in life. let alone on film. Good on ya!
Cheers,
Kel
SmokeRingsPipeDreams 1 year ago
did u know that you can make a winter bug out bag that weighs less than 30 pounds if you choose your gear and location carefully?
unrulyierulli1 1 year ago 3
@unrulyierulli1 You can't leave me hanging like that! Tell me more. Do you have a video or any other info? I'm here to learn, and it sounds like you have some good info. Please share.
envirosponsible 1 year ago 15
@envirosponsible the biggest key is to dress in layers, have a good sleeping bag and have high calorie food rich in protein carbs and fats as fat is basically concentrated calories. next if you are in an area where you can get away from the wind that is best. also stay hydrated so your cells can thermoregulate themselves. wools and fleece as well as a good base like silk or polypro or such that wicks. the us military makes a great modular sleep system. I'll get back to you with more a bit later
unrulyierulli1 1 year ago
@envirosponsible Have you read 98 degrees when all hell breaks loose? He show's some real interesting methods. Also Hood's Woods Urban Survival. Your from Ontario? I have some friends up your way that own a survival school. Email me for the details.
wilcox1219 1 year ago
@envirosponsible unrulyierulli1 is correct. The only 'problem' is a bag like that is not cheap by any means. My BOB is such a bag, weighs 24.7lbs and i have personally used it to sleep outside at +0.3F in Colorado, no sleeping bag or tent. Mind you, my clothing alone is well over $400 US, so is by no means cheap, but it gets the job done for little weight. I also very VERY carefully choose what I pack, only the essentials, no fluff. I am going to be making a video soon showing what gear I chose.
davethevanman 1 year ago 2
"who knows what happens here at night..." crackheads! lol xD
thebeastman33 1 year ago
US military sleep system would have gotten you through the night...It has its drawbacks, but it does work.
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DeathOfTheDollar2010 1 year ago
Whoa WHOA
You GENIUS
I'm going to do some research into finding the lightest, strongest bolt cutters I can find to put in my BOB. I Know that blue truck was someone's property, but if you really needed it, that'd be an awesome(Arguably mobile) shelter. All I would need is to cut that tiny bar holding the lock together. I'm not supporting breaking and entering, but if there's no law, Bolt/lock cutters would be great if you needed to get into some place really really badly.
BitFox 2 years ago
Failure? Well maybe, but only if you did not learn from the experience. If you have learned from this, and make the needed changes, then it's not really a complete fail. Now you know more, and will not fail the same way again.
evilevilrick 2 years ago
The main point of this video that many are not getting is that you tested your kit and have realised that it was not suitable for the winter months. I bet many survivalists have BOB but have never actually tried them out over night or longer.
seanmulhall 2 years ago 19
are you talking about the back of that truck? do tell
maxlucas88 2 years ago
When people build their BOB's wrong they put themselves at risk. However they also put others and myself at risk.. When they don't shelter they tend to look for places to break into, food to steal (72hrs goes by fast), lack of water and hunting skills make them a threat. Most of all that ASSAULT RIFLE and all that ammo makes him a possible bandit, looter threat. I say this because a person will do anything to feed his family if forced in "TSHTF" times. They may turn into bandits to get food
TheStealthCamper 2 years ago
My current BOB weighs 47lbs with at least 10days food. The patrol pack weigh 3lbs., and my rifle weighs 6lbs. I am currently working on the caches of food that will supplement my Bug out retreat. I have 6 food caches, 3 ammo caches, 1 tool cache. All this food,ammo,tools are buried around the bug out retreat in case i have to bail out of it. I intend to BUG IN as long as possible. Bugging out really sucks, and should be look at more extreme. That brings me to my point....
TheStealthCamper 2 years ago
I apologize for my over aggressive comments. I just get upset when I see all these BOB's made almost like a refugee homeless attitude, and the over GI-joe version with Assault rifles and tons of ammo. Both are lacking proper survival gear. I really think people want to put themselves into the survival mode by bringing the so called portable survival gear. You don't have too do that because you are making your kit now. You need to make a good kit. I'll put my current BOB on the YT
TheStealthCamper 2 years ago
Excellent practice exercise 5 Stars!
60odeeman 2 years ago
let's break down this exercise : First you are trespassing on other property (1st mistake) You must stealth camp. Not in the open (2nd mistake) unknown places means, you need to be unknown. What are you doing in the open??? I heard you mention shelter? SHELTER IS #1, more important than food, water, fire. You don't have a tent (Tent = awesome protection from elements) but you carry junk like a shovel. Get a tent then talk to me about BOB. You can bury yourself with the shovel for shelter.
TheStealthCamper 2 years ago
That all said, DO THIS::: Build your BOB to live out of. Don't build it to survive with stupid tarps, plastic blankets, 3 days food, low water. I think people have a romantic fantasy of using a tarp and roughing it out. Bringing a big weapon shouting "I Rule". Idiots, or maybe after they run out of food. PROBLEM people. Look at this video. Your first day and you are already a homeless person (refugee). You basically failed (SUCK) at this and need to rethink your plan.
TheStealthCamper 2 years ago
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ANYONE WHO does BUG OUT with out tent, sleeping bag, 7 days food is a "BUG OUT REFUGEE" BUG OUT REFUGEE" BUG OUT REFUGEE" BUG OUT REFUGEE" When you run out of food you will be "LOOTER, BANDIT, TROUBLE, DANGEROUS TO ALL OF THE REAL BUG OUT PEOPLE. You will use your weapon to obtain food and supplies. Therefore you will be the ones we look out for.
TheStealthCamper 2 years ago
How many people could carry a backpack with all the contents you mentioned? My gear weighs about 40 pounds, which is about the max I can carry in evasion situations. The bag you're describing weighs over 60 or 70 pounds. There are very few people who could carry that amount of weight for a few minutes let alone a few days or weeks. My bag is most practical for me because it's stripped down the essentials and is a managable weight. I train in it, so I know the reality of lugging 40lbs.
envirosponsible 2 years ago 10
@envirosponsible My bag weighs a lot too. I was doing a bug out practice where I spent the night in the woods and realized I couldn't even walk half a mile without the bag ripping my shoulders off. The solution I came up with is a small hand cart. That way over long distances you could drag your bag on it and drag it around. Im going to give it a try.
bathroomstrangla 1 year ago
@envirosponsible I can handle 100 pounds, but mobility and distance are affected, but I like having anything I could ever need.
40 pounds? My little brothers can carry that man, they're back packs weigh that.
Routanne 1 year ago
@envirosponsible Im 16 and i wear a 65 pound backpack and carry it for days through thick brush up hills with emergency stuff and im just fine with it, its all about training your body for it. Im in my local Search and Rescue group in the state of washington.
Zaharkl 7 months ago
I'd rather have a plan for a food/water supply than 7 days worth of food. As an example, I live in an area filled with wild deer and turkeys. Seeds would be worth far more to me than a weeks worth of MREs. Some things I probably would have to refresh my supplies on, but my gut feeling is that I'm not surrounded by people who would think to take the dryer lint when looting a home.
suoq 1 year ago
@TheStealthCamper Also, if the wild life around you was still alive and thriving...you could get some cheap light weight snare wire and trap some food all you want without sacraficing a lot of weight and i agree with envirosponsible because out of all your survival supplies, I would say that food is the most heavy and bulky of them all. Also, a healthy human could go a few weeks without food.
MAP14100 1 year ago
@TheStealthCamper Tents are not needed were I live.. Why would I need a tent? As far as food = Skill . There is food all around us, every where I look . No bag can replace survival skills. 7 days off food is only that.
Beachcrib 1 year ago
@TheStealthCamper hehhe dont you mean Therefore you will be the ones we're looking for.
SuperNobama1 1 year ago
@SuperNobama1 don't uyou agree
TheStealthCamper 1 year ago
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SuperNobama1 1 year ago
@TheStealthCamper 8 hours ago .. yep 100% @ hehe yep no one goes long without food !! Got ya back with the good old sks and mr 870 hehe. Now where did envirosponsible put his 200+ lb batery getup XD . Rice, caned fish salmon \ mr. noodles\ Protine powder\ clorine tabs for the water calorie bars, oats, all light and ready to go. ps Im just busting buddies balls as he could be camping in his back yard not in the crackhead blowjob district XD LOL he's like omg someones living\working here 3:10
SuperNobama1 1 year ago
@TheStealthCamper Absolutely false. ANYONE who knows even the basics of survival will be capable of using what is around in the wilderness (a devastated city would become "wilderness"). Also, I would also love to see you carry everything you say and make it more than a few mile hump. Learn to use what nature provides you and you will only need the very basics for survival, a tent is not one of those things. A "true" survivalist (i.e. first nation person) needs no pack at all.
davethevanman 1 year ago
@TheStealthCamper The First week , people are looking for food, ice, water, Gasoline to run there cars for shelter, AC/heat. The next week there getting pissed off the Govt hasnt came in to assist them , while supplys dwindel. By the third week in a castrophe zone depending on the weather and supplies people are straight up fid up and they start to riote. By the 4 week if theres no supplies or water, ice, blankets, food , the fighting startes, People start robbing each other, street fighting.
GalaticSpaceHero 9 months ago
@TheStealthCamper a bug out bag is a 72 hour kit
thedomandrayshow 9 months ago
@thedomandrayshow The so called 72 Bug Out Bag is a a joke. Just look at all the folks that got hit by the tornadoes. Tell them all they need is a three day pack. After three days most everyone becomes a looter because of false preparing and misleading people. I think they created the 72 bag for quick go go readiness with a real destination. However thats not the case that tends to be really happening on the current news. A longer term bag is a must and should be created and thoughtout
TheStealthCamper 9 months ago
I know what happens there at night! :D
ViolentKisses87 2 years ago
recon 5 is a -30 bag i beleave ...but you have 4
gasdorf 2 years ago
nice to see you made it into the zone S.T.A.L.K.E.R
gasdorf 2 years ago
video tape some bums, they truly know how to bug out. Cardboard and everything!
TooSexyForTheArmy 2 years ago
lol so ur not in the army i guess how bout marines?
superassassin47 2 years ago
if i can recomend something small traditional 2 man tents are light incredibly easy to set up and can go on you're bag with the sleeping bag youll be good
andrewubaldi 2 years ago
Good video man. Keep it up!
Also if you do use that bigger sleeping bag, try attaching it to the top of you BOB and not the bottom. Better for your back.
Oak0586 2 years ago
good vid a failure but a good vid
superassassin47 2 years ago
i see why you called it a failure bear grylls
DesignatdSurvivalist 2 years ago
Like the homeless, you should have been focusing on elevation and enclosure in a cold situation (the taped bundles of slat wood and the plywood would have been a good start). In an actual situation the building would have been a good bet, and yes, there will be others out there looking for the same resources. The words "creepy" and "gross" show that your mind set needs a bit of work. In survival there are only two words, "live" and "die".
5thSFGsniper 2 years ago 2
AT 2:59 and 4:10 lmao!!!
Jshelley89 2 years ago
One more observation. This is you now, right now pre collapse training. Already you found sighs of other making camp near that truck. I promise you the person (s) that left that gear their will be back. I am very glad you did this. I prove that the concepts should be stealth, and evasion for the city. Only Bug In will work, all other plans a folly. If you don't have a Bug In plan you only have one option. FIGHT OR FLIGHT.
TheStealthCamper 2 years ago
Your first priority is SHELTER, you die in three hours without SHELTER. I suugest the trees, because the hobo's, homeless, and whatever are going to be more geared to looting and will stay near or in buildings, cars, trucks, dumpsters, where ever they can find food, things, or prey on others. Yes, these are the real Zombies. They thrive, live, work off the remains of a post collapsed city. They are the thieves, gangs, the what was 10% crime rate, now the 90% crime rate. They are Zombies.
TheStealthCamper 2 years ago
I'm curious to know if you think being in the truck would have helped. I will need to reconsider the bivy thing after seeing your video.
radiorepair 2 years ago
You did a great service by manning up to that lesson. Hopefully some people will see this, upgrade and stay alive. I probably would have lit a fire under the dumpster and crawled inside. I'm still laughing over the bag of rocks! ;)
Gorntz 2 years ago
Urban BOB si for exiting the city. You either have a good Bug In set up in the city or leave. Even in your present video you found so homeless site. You can't camp in the open. I recommend weapons in this type of Bug Out. You Bug In when in a city or leave. You bug out in the country because the woods provide Food, Shelter, evasion possibilities, water sources, and most of all LESS LOOTERS, BANDITS. 90% pop. in city post collapse will be bandits, gangs, looters, the lowest life left.
TheStealthCamper 2 years ago 3
Here is an example of winter failure. SURVIVOR MAN "Deep Woods episode" He goes out with a professional hunter, and they both have rifles and skill. They failed..... Wilderness Outfitters, right here on you tube uses a tarp in winter camp video. You can see he fails, he freezing and has to stay up. The tarp does not provide good protection in the winter. You want to stay in one for several days? Just the openness on a clear star night may be to cold. Keep wind out, heat in. TENT!!
TheStealthCamper 2 years ago
You should always have a good SHELTER, tent is best. 7days of FOOD, freeze dried. FIRE, a way of preparing a fire and good fire making skills. WATER, at least two liters or a filter method of getting water. SECURITY, a weapon to hunt and defend yourself and loved ones. REMEMBER this:: Shelter is first, FIre is second, Water is third, Food is fourth Don't be fooled into 72hour BS kit. After 3 days you will go back home to meet up with whoever you are running from and surrender.
TheStealthCamper 2 years ago
Without a tent you are HOBO camping, homeless camping. You put yourself in a self inflicted survival mode because you think you can't bring a tent. Or maybe it's some stupid survival kit fantasy . Anytime you bring a tarp or bivy you opting for skill vs. needed items. Just because all these so called survivalist bring tarps you don't have too. The bring the tarp to show how they can Macho survive and carry more ammo. Don't be like those potential losers. They will bring no food too.
TheStealthCamper 2 years ago
I have through all of your comments and you have raised some good points. I am not into survival but believe many of my bushcrafting and wilderness camping skills could help me in a survival situation. Not Urban though. I would however like to see you BOB. Survivalism and BOB's is an area I would like to research more. I will post a video of a tent constructed from a tarp and would like your opinion. Thanks
seanmulhall 2 years ago
For bugging out in Canada I have a USGI sleep system, toasty warm!
I would have liked to have seen a video of your shelter/sleeping set up in action too.
But great point...gotta test ya gear
megasimon999 2 years ago
good vid.
RedJellyable 2 years ago
add some polypro underware will help alot, and make your sleeping bag a lot warmer
jlott00 2 years ago
You should consider adding a space blanket bivy type bag. MEC has a few of these for $15 or so.
bwillan 2 years ago
Failure is always an option and is an equally valid result. As you know, in a sleeping bag, the insulation on the bottom of the bag is compressed and useless for all practical purposes. That lost insulation value has to be made up with your padding that you sleep on. Try to find an insulated sleeping pad. MEC has a few.
bwillan 2 years ago
I agree, sleeping pad and maybe combine the thermal bivy and the sleeping bag....
rooftopeagle 2 years ago
Very cool experiment...kudos!
389Lee 2 years ago
awesome vid...wish you would've filmed while you were trying to sleep.
ConditionRedDawn 2 years ago
I love these type of videos!!! Because if you dont test your gear you dont know what works. 5/5*
4770589 2 years ago 11