those who say that she sacrificed herself should look in a vocabulary.Sacrifice means i put myself aside,in order to do good or help someone,doesn't mean i kill myself because i can't have everything my way.Bihter never did a single thing that didn't serve her plans and she wouldn't care less if someone died because of her.This is not a moral statement as some like to say,life without values is the life of animals,although animals sometimes are way better because they love uncontisionally
i wonder if those who say Bihter is a bitch watched the series from the beginning.Because if you watch it from the beginning it is IMPOSSIBLE to not understand that Bihter is not who she normally is in these episodes.Bihter tried very hard to get away from Behlul in the beginning.Hereshe is slowly dying, and clinging onto the hope that someday Behlul will understand that he thinks he loves Nihal because he cannot handle his guilt.She dies when she loses this hope.
Μωρή Μπίχτω,αφού δεν σε νοιάζει αν θα το μάθει ο Αντνάν τότε τί σε νοιάζει τί έχει στη θυρίδα ο Μπεσίρ;Αλλά,σε ενδιαφέρουν τα φραγκάκια,μην τα χάσεις αν σε φτύσει εντελώς ο Μπεχλούλ και τον ξαναδείς μόνο σε φωτογραφία.Είσαι ένα σχιζοφρενικό νυμφίδιο.ΟΥΣΤ!
bihter is a merciless whore who hurts everyone so that she can have it her way.People who believe she loves are nuts.Human beings like her are incapable of love not even for themselves that's why she commits suicide,think what you would say if she was a person you knew and not some beautiful actress from Turkey.Don't lie to yourselves.
I don't get it why people hate so much Bihter.She just wanted love & a happy life life with Behlul.And it's okay the fact that she considers Adnan as her father.I personally believe that she deserves Behlul.Nihal is just crying all the time because deep inside she knows that Behlul doesn't love her,she just doesn't want to admit it.Plus Behlul is coward,cuz Bihter wanted so many times to sacrifice everything and walk away with him.So the victims are not only Adnan and Nihal like everyone say.:(
@MaraBonnieSalvatore ókie bihter sees adnan as her father then tell me one person who sleeps with her own dad..she can still walk away and leave adnana so why dosnt she do it, whats stoping ???
@MrsTiniWini very very true.She doesn't leave him because she wants to have him as a back up plan.I don't get it.These people that like her don't feel anything,not even for bulent?Love should be a feeling that makes people happy,we can't say we love somebody and destroy everyone for that reason,that's hatred.
@MsHulietta I don’t agree with you. Bihter is hurting so much that she cannot think straight.She cannot think of anyone else or anything else but herself and Behlul.If you're physically hurt you can't think anything else but how to avoid pain, when you're mentally hurt it is even more difficult to deal with. Pll in real life can develop all kinds of mental illnesses when it hurts so much, it’s natural, it happens to everyone. So I think her behaviors in these episodes are written realistically.
@ezinepeyniri that means that she needs help not that her actions are justified.She acted in mean ways long before she got that way,it was in her nature to be evil.The fact that she loved someone that chose not to be with her,made it worse,ok.But mental state can't stand as an excuse for evil actions,i understand the reasons but that doesn't mean i should give excuses.Murderers use this as defent in court,in order to get free,you feel safe when it happens?
@MsHulietta I agree she needs help, yet she is very lonely. As I said, if you watch it from the beginning you see that she feels horrible when Behlul kisses her for the first time,that she cries after they have sex for the first time etc. There are too many instances shwoing that she tried to avoid Behlul but she was not able to resist it. So, no I do not consider her as evil at all. You can do unfair things to people that doesn't mean you are evil. Life is not all black and white.
@ezinepeyniri her actions are not criminal,if you take in account the law,but in life things work differently.For example she could cause nihal's suicide on purpose and ethically she would be a murderer.As for good or bad,black or white,some times people must be more clear to criticism.Sometimes someone is evil and one time of wickness or sensitivity is not enough to change that.We shouldn't be afraid to say things the way they are,just because it's convenient.
@ezinepeyniri also i would say that she doesn't do unfair things,she manipulates people on purpose and she doesn't give a damn of the consequences to the others as long as it fits her to satisfy her needs.It's good to be harsh on some people,because if someone was harsh on her,she wouldn't be so selfish and she would be more hamble.It doesn't help people at all,when we give excuse for all their actions,it makes them worse.And,yes there are evil people regardless the reasons.
@MsHulietta as i explained, the way i see it she doesn't do those things to satisfy her needs. "the way things are" could be different for everybody. she suffered a lot for cheating. The fact that she killed herself (not Behlul or Nihal)shows that she is not selfish-selfish ppl don't sacrifice themselves.This is a story of how that happened, the aim is not to give us a morality lesson so for me whether she fits society’s moral standards is beyond the point and not that interesting to me.
@ezinepeyniri as for suicide,you should know or read a little bit about it and be more carefull with these issues,is a completely selfish action not heroic,revolves only around the person who commits it and his or her needs and most of the time they do it in order to get attention,although they won't be there later,they forget that.Since you tried to show you know human psycology,now you should read about it and then observe,it's really enlightening.
@ezinepeyniri and for closure,we greeks invented theatre,and i feel obliged to tell you,that novels or theatre perfomances always end with KATHARSIS,which is the justification of the right,even when that comes through pain or death.So,books and theatre and tv series,ALWAYS give a moral lesson in the end,that's their purpose and if the "evil" conquers,we feel that something is unfinished.In Greek Tragedy,"evil" existed and never won.....
@MsHulietta The novel brilliantly explores psycology, among other things and that’s why it’s intriguing to me. It seems we have different worldviews regarding human nature and what makes it inherently evil, and whether society can decide who is a slut or not. And that can’t be resolved here, so I think there’s no point to discuss.
@ezinepeyniri it's funny beacause you begun this discussion and not me and you where the one to talk about insanity and society,black or white and other serious issues.As for the human nature as you say,don't be afraid to spell "bad" words nothings gonna happen to you.All languages invented them because they exist as meanings.It's completely illusional to see the world the way it fits you and justifiy actions in order to justify your actions some day.
@MsHulietta also, these actions aren't criminal. I agree with you that from the beginning she wasn't very considerate towards the maids, I see that as a result of having been raised by Firdevs. To say this is an evil nature would be too harsh.I think the writers did a fine job on the nuances regarding character traits. No one is completely evil or good (even Adnan who raped his wife), everybody is just very human.
@badspy1 yes i totally i agree with you!!!! i don't know why they hate nihal nihal is the only victim..!!!! i love her! and with behlul are a wonderful couple <3!
@freiheit0007 Firdevs tried to separete Behlul-Nihal , she used katya for her plan. but plan was ruined because of her. and Firdevs said ' you are gonna levae the house i dont wanna see you anymore. and Katya said ' no you cant send me like this. we have secrets' . she threatened Firdevs with tell everyone the plan. but katya dont have 'residence permit' in Turkey. Bihter and Firdevs told this to police. and police want to arrest her and deport her from Turkey. but she run away.
ya firdevs, salak behlul tuzaginiza dusmedim derken oyle bir dustun ki gerizekali, bihter'in askiyla yanarken benim emrimle nihal'e nisanlandin diyemedi ya, ben catladim yani. senaryo hic olmuyor bu son iki bolumde.
those who say that she sacrificed herself should look in a vocabulary.Sacrifice means i put myself aside,in order to do good or help someone,doesn't mean i kill myself because i can't have everything my way.Bihter never did a single thing that didn't serve her plans and she wouldn't care less if someone died because of her.This is not a moral statement as some like to say,life without values is the life of animals,although animals sometimes are way better because they love uncontisionally
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i wonder if those who say Bihter is a bitch watched the series from the beginning.Because if you watch it from the beginning it is IMPOSSIBLE to not understand that Bihter is not who she normally is in these episodes.Bihter tried very hard to get away from Behlul in the beginning.Hereshe is slowly dying, and clinging onto the hope that someday Behlul will understand that he thinks he loves Nihal because he cannot handle his guilt.She dies when she loses this hope.
ezinepeyniri 1 month ago
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ezinepeyniri 1 month ago
51:10-53:00 BIHTER CRAZY BITCH!!
emmelar89 1 month ago
Μωρή Μπίχτω,αφού δεν σε νοιάζει αν θα το μάθει ο Αντνάν τότε τί σε νοιάζει τί έχει στη θυρίδα ο Μπεσίρ;Αλλά,σε ενδιαφέρουν τα φραγκάκια,μην τα χάσεις αν σε φτύσει εντελώς ο Μπεχλούλ και τον ξαναδείς μόνο σε φωτογραφία.Είσαι ένα σχιζοφρενικό νυμφίδιο.ΟΥΣΤ!
MsHulietta 1 month ago 3
@MsHulietta xaxaxa
marilou646 1 month ago
can i find this episode with english subtitles or smth??
paolandroqi123 1 month ago
bihter is a merciless whore who hurts everyone so that she can have it her way.People who believe she loves are nuts.Human beings like her are incapable of love not even for themselves that's why she commits suicide,think what you would say if she was a person you knew and not some beautiful actress from Turkey.Don't lie to yourselves.
MsHulietta 1 month ago 3
fuck bihter slut!
weyobreezy 1 month ago 2
F*CK BIHTER AND FIRDEVS!!THEY MUST DIEEEEE!
ThePsytranceMistress 1 month ago 3
@ThePsytranceMistress Fucking jealous whore.
johan1326 1 month ago
@johan1326 ur talking about bihter right?;) i agree with u..she is a whore cause she is cheating her husband with his nephew!!!!!!
ThePsytranceMistress 1 month ago
f**CK bihter and firntevs !
ThePsytranceMistress 1 month ago 3
I don't get it why people hate so much Bihter.She just wanted love & a happy life life with Behlul.And it's okay the fact that she considers Adnan as her father.I personally believe that she deserves Behlul.Nihal is just crying all the time because deep inside she knows that Behlul doesn't love her,she just doesn't want to admit it.Plus Behlul is coward,cuz Bihter wanted so many times to sacrifice everything and walk away with him.So the victims are not only Adnan and Nihal like everyone say.:(
MaraBonnieSalvatore 1 month ago 13
@MaraBonnieSalvatore i totally agree with you!!!
Vasilakou 1 month ago
@MaraBonnieSalvatore ókie bihter sees adnan as her father then tell me one person who sleeps with her own dad..she can still walk away and leave adnana so why dosnt she do it, whats stoping ???
MrsTiniWini 1 month ago
@MrsTiniWini very very true.She doesn't leave him because she wants to have him as a back up plan.I don't get it.These people that like her don't feel anything,not even for bulent?Love should be a feeling that makes people happy,we can't say we love somebody and destroy everyone for that reason,that's hatred.
MsHulietta 1 month ago 2
@MsHulietta I don’t agree with you. Bihter is hurting so much that she cannot think straight.She cannot think of anyone else or anything else but herself and Behlul.If you're physically hurt you can't think anything else but how to avoid pain, when you're mentally hurt it is even more difficult to deal with. Pll in real life can develop all kinds of mental illnesses when it hurts so much, it’s natural, it happens to everyone. So I think her behaviors in these episodes are written realistically.
ezinepeyniri 1 month ago
@ezinepeyniri that means that she needs help not that her actions are justified.She acted in mean ways long before she got that way,it was in her nature to be evil.The fact that she loved someone that chose not to be with her,made it worse,ok.But mental state can't stand as an excuse for evil actions,i understand the reasons but that doesn't mean i should give excuses.Murderers use this as defent in court,in order to get free,you feel safe when it happens?
MsHulietta 1 month ago
@MsHulietta I agree she needs help, yet she is very lonely. As I said, if you watch it from the beginning you see that she feels horrible when Behlul kisses her for the first time,that she cries after they have sex for the first time etc. There are too many instances shwoing that she tried to avoid Behlul but she was not able to resist it. So, no I do not consider her as evil at all. You can do unfair things to people that doesn't mean you are evil. Life is not all black and white.
ezinepeyniri 1 month ago 2
@ezinepeyniri her actions are not criminal,if you take in account the law,but in life things work differently.For example she could cause nihal's suicide on purpose and ethically she would be a murderer.As for good or bad,black or white,some times people must be more clear to criticism.Sometimes someone is evil and one time of wickness or sensitivity is not enough to change that.We shouldn't be afraid to say things the way they are,just because it's convenient.
MsHulietta 1 month ago
@ezinepeyniri also i would say that she doesn't do unfair things,she manipulates people on purpose and she doesn't give a damn of the consequences to the others as long as it fits her to satisfy her needs.It's good to be harsh on some people,because if someone was harsh on her,she wouldn't be so selfish and she would be more hamble.It doesn't help people at all,when we give excuse for all their actions,it makes them worse.And,yes there are evil people regardless the reasons.
MsHulietta 1 month ago
@MsHulietta as i explained, the way i see it she doesn't do those things to satisfy her needs. "the way things are" could be different for everybody. she suffered a lot for cheating. The fact that she killed herself (not Behlul or Nihal)shows that she is not selfish-selfish ppl don't sacrifice themselves.This is a story of how that happened, the aim is not to give us a morality lesson so for me whether she fits society’s moral standards is beyond the point and not that interesting to me.
ezinepeyniri 1 month ago
@ezinepeyniri as for suicide,you should know or read a little bit about it and be more carefull with these issues,is a completely selfish action not heroic,revolves only around the person who commits it and his or her needs and most of the time they do it in order to get attention,although they won't be there later,they forget that.Since you tried to show you know human psycology,now you should read about it and then observe,it's really enlightening.
MsHulietta 1 month ago
@ezinepeyniri and for closure,we greeks invented theatre,and i feel obliged to tell you,that novels or theatre perfomances always end with KATHARSIS,which is the justification of the right,even when that comes through pain or death.So,books and theatre and tv series,ALWAYS give a moral lesson in the end,that's their purpose and if the "evil" conquers,we feel that something is unfinished.In Greek Tragedy,"evil" existed and never won.....
MsHulietta 1 month ago
@MsHulietta The novel brilliantly explores psycology, among other things and that’s why it’s intriguing to me. It seems we have different worldviews regarding human nature and what makes it inherently evil, and whether society can decide who is a slut or not. And that can’t be resolved here, so I think there’s no point to discuss.
ezinepeyniri 1 month ago
@ezinepeyniri it's funny beacause you begun this discussion and not me and you where the one to talk about insanity and society,black or white and other serious issues.As for the human nature as you say,don't be afraid to spell "bad" words nothings gonna happen to you.All languages invented them because they exist as meanings.It's completely illusional to see the world the way it fits you and justifiy actions in order to justify your actions some day.
MsHulietta 1 month ago
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ezinepeyniri 1 month ago
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@MsHulietta also, these actions aren't criminal. I agree with you that from the beginning she wasn't very considerate towards the maids, I see that as a result of having been raised by Firdevs. To say this is an evil nature would be too harsh.I think the writers did a fine job on the nuances regarding character traits. No one is completely evil or good (even Adnan who raped his wife), everybody is just very human.
ezinepeyniri 1 month ago
@MaraBonnieSalvatore is salvatore your real name or are you obsessed with damon??? :))))
mariatvd7 1 month ago
@MaraBonnieSalvatore you don't understand why people hate bihter?what's wrong with you?
MsHulietta 1 month ago
afferim matmazel bihtere nasıl kapak yaptın mı
sanki cemilede cok meraklı bihterin evine o r o SS p UUUUU bih TER
ANIL59100 1 month ago
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Could somebody please tell me the name of restaurant where Firdevs and Cetin with their friends have dinner 9min?
joviva100 2 months ago
@badspy1 yes i totally i agree with you!!!! i don't know why they hate nihal nihal is the only victim..!!!! i love her! and with behlul are a wonderful couple <3!
marilou646 2 months ago
i love nihal <3<3 i hate so much BIHTER SO MUCH!
marilou646 2 months ago
roman veya seri? ... Çok ilginç arsa, ben dilini anlamıyorum ama ben sevdim hahaha... Meksika selamlar
lola3094 3 months ago
the house maids are so annoying
akhrojjamal 3 months ago 11
can someone pleaseeeee tell me what did katja do? i don't speak turkish
freiheit0007 3 months ago
@freiheit0007 Firdevs tried to separete Behlul-Nihal , she used katya for her plan. but plan was ruined because of her. and Firdevs said ' you are gonna levae the house i dont wanna see you anymore. and Katya said ' no you cant send me like this. we have secrets' . she threatened Firdevs with tell everyone the plan. but katya dont have 'residence permit' in Turkey. Bihter and Firdevs told this to police. and police want to arrest her and deport her from Turkey. but she run away.
prongs01 3 months ago
orospu bihter nefret ediyorum ya...helal olsun matmazell...:D
Hilosch0 4 months ago
@Hilosch0 hoooost asil oruspu olan nihal dir
SouthRevolutionary90 2 months ago
odada da yamuldu bihter burnunun dibine girince, gerizekali behlul.
sedoshka18 4 months ago
daha bitmedi!!!
fidash7 4 months ago
gerizekali behlu, bihter kolunu tutup daha bitmedi deyince heyecanlandi bile.
sedoshka18 5 months ago 5
amk bihterle firdevs yok meydan okuma yok restleşme felan amk tribe girmişler :D:D
Lonelyendpoints 5 months ago
nigariiiim kadirgalin geldi hahahaha
Smitty2140 5 months ago
matmoiselle sieht aus wie eine vogelscheusche
94abcabcde 5 months ago
nihal ne guzel bir kiz
cilginrukkus 6 months ago
I absolutely hate Beren Saat in this dizi, she's such a bitch and so rude to the house maids.
Fatimasahin 6 months ago
@Fatimasahin
nesliss962 6 months ago
bu ev gönülcelen deki eve benziyor demi arkadaslar?
xcatlaqxstylex 6 months ago
ednan bey ednan bey :D
Askimemnuforeverx3 7 months ago
ya firdevs, salak behlul tuzaginiza dusmedim derken oyle bir dustun ki gerizekali, bihter'in askiyla yanarken benim emrimle nihal'e nisanlandin diyemedi ya, ben catladim yani. senaryo hic olmuyor bu son iki bolumde.
sedoshka18 8 months ago
bihteri yerim ben
turkishterror 8 months ago
offfff katyaaa seni ananiiiiiiiii
KanatsizKelebekk 8 months ago
04:30 Behlülün bakisi müthisti
kubrasev 8 months ago
GICIK CEMILE SINIR ...
merve5374 9 months ago
uuyyaa!!!
TheSeyyide 9 months ago