@SuperMangn Absolutely. Film is very popular, as is the contemporary revision of the film he used (Kodak Tri-X 400). Checkout groups on Flickr like 'I Shoot Film' and 'Film Is Not Dead'. You can process colour or black & white, scan and print it yourself, or get a photo lab to do it for you.
arguing about this is ridiculous. of course working like winogrand wont make you a photographer of his calibre just like typing like kerouac wont make you as good a writer. dont think like children.
@peteb0yd profit has nothing to do with it. You need a release for commercial speech as opposed to editorial or artistic speech. Consult a media rights lawyer.
@mdigital21 Yes you can photograph anything in public view. The problems come into play with what you do with the pictures after. Commercial speech (product endorsement, advertising) require the end user (not the photographer) have the permission of the people in the photo - a release. The people only have to recognize themselves in the photo, there is case law to support this. Applies to the United States only.
@n9xyp Why would I want to consult a media rights lawyer? You think I should pay hundreds of Pounds to do that so that I can answer more clearly on YouTube? One can photograph people on the streets of the UK for artistic purposes (i.e. Flickr, a gallery exhibition, a photobook) without requiring model releases. I don't understand the subtlety of your answer but I don't need to because what I said stands true.
His photography was compulsive from the start, from day one. He needed to shoot because he was searching for truth through the image. that is the face he was speaking of... he wanted to the the real face after the one you decided to show him.
I don't know...I like his early work, but near the end I think he was just going through the motions, clicking the shutter more as a compulsion rather than trying to make pictures. It reminds me of Jack Kerouac: som many people hold his "first thought, best thought" style as being the way to make art but really, it's responsible for more bad writing than ever before. Same could be said for Winogrand. Every person with a Leica thinks just walking around blindly clicking makes a good picture.
@welfaremother i don't think this has anything to do with kerouac. its not like he only picked the first thing that came out of the camera. he picked the best. it would be the same if kerouac rewrote the same shit 100 times like crazy and then picked his favorite. he was more like, "im gonna shot anything that moves, and then later im gonna pick whatever i like the best".
@vlino87 - winogrand is a lot like kerouac. what you described is *exactly* how kerouac wrote! he carried a little black book with him everywhere. he wrote all the time. a lot of it never saw the light of day... and for the record, while he always wrote from a place of spontaneity and immediacy, he *did* edit his work.
Thomas Roma was approached by John Szarkowski to create a posthumous book of W's last works, using only W's marked-up proofs to select the images. Roma declined & fought w/ S over it, saying W would NOT have approvd publishing work he hadn't OKd for publ. But S insisted, said "I'm doing the book with or w/out you." So Roma was forced to do it, because they BOTH knew R was the ONLY one who best knew W's person, and his personal mark-ups best.
thanks for digitising this
stillben 1 month ago
What camera did he use and can you still get the photos developed in the same way now ?
SuperMangn 2 months ago
@SuperMangn He was using a leica M4. with a canon 28 f2.8 but he did used leica 28mms as well.
bene123photographer 2 months ago
@SuperMangn Absolutely. Film is very popular, as is the contemporary revision of the film he used (Kodak Tri-X 400). Checkout groups on Flickr like 'I Shoot Film' and 'Film Is Not Dead'. You can process colour or black & white, scan and print it yourself, or get a photo lab to do it for you.
peteb0yd 1 month ago
GOD I CAN'T FREAKIN EVEN HEAR THIS!!!!
mdigital21 3 months ago
@mdigital21 turn your shit up then
ZXAnimal 3 months ago
Respond to this video... wow....there is volume on a computer???
mdigital21 3 months ago
@mdigital21 i could hear it fine
ZXAnimal 3 months ago
arguing about this is ridiculous. of course working like winogrand wont make you a photographer of his calibre just like typing like kerouac wont make you as good a writer. dont think like children.
croreiki 1 year ago 2
Dave, Garry worked in Silver Film. You should read some of the history before Digital.
The prints and negatives are developed in a Darkroom.
Shooter
streetshooter 1 year ago
His contact sheet is on paper right? How does one achieve this?
davetheraveishere 1 year ago
Where are his model releases?!?!?
shit was easier back then
afuzilla 1 year ago
@afuzilla When you're photographing for artistic purposes, rather than solely for profit, you don't need no model releases.
peteb0yd 1 year ago
@peteb0yd profit has nothing to do with it. You need a release for commercial speech as opposed to editorial or artistic speech. Consult a media rights lawyer.
n9xyp 3 months ago
@n9xyp ANYTHING THAT CAN BE VIEWED FROM THE STREET IS FAIR GAME FOR PHOTOGRPAHY
mdigital21 3 months ago
@mdigital21 Yes you can photograph anything in public view. The problems come into play with what you do with the pictures after. Commercial speech (product endorsement, advertising) require the end user (not the photographer) have the permission of the people in the photo - a release. The people only have to recognize themselves in the photo, there is case law to support this. Applies to the United States only.
n9xyp 3 months ago
@n9xyp Why would I want to consult a media rights lawyer? You think I should pay hundreds of Pounds to do that so that I can answer more clearly on YouTube? One can photograph people on the streets of the UK for artistic purposes (i.e. Flickr, a gallery exhibition, a photobook) without requiring model releases. I don't understand the subtlety of your answer but I don't need to because what I said stands true.
peteb0yd 1 month ago
His photography was compulsive from the start, from day one. He needed to shoot because he was searching for truth through the image. that is the face he was speaking of... he wanted to the the real face after the one you decided to show him.
Carterofmars 2 years ago
grazie grazie grazie
ottovali 2 years ago
I don't know...I like his early work, but near the end I think he was just going through the motions, clicking the shutter more as a compulsion rather than trying to make pictures. It reminds me of Jack Kerouac: som many people hold his "first thought, best thought" style as being the way to make art but really, it's responsible for more bad writing than ever before. Same could be said for Winogrand. Every person with a Leica thinks just walking around blindly clicking makes a good picture.
welfaremother 3 years ago
@welfaremother i don't think this has anything to do with kerouac. its not like he only picked the first thing that came out of the camera. he picked the best. it would be the same if kerouac rewrote the same shit 100 times like crazy and then picked his favorite. he was more like, "im gonna shot anything that moves, and then later im gonna pick whatever i like the best".
vlino87 1 year ago
@vlino87 - winogrand is a lot like kerouac. what you described is *exactly* how kerouac wrote! he carried a little black book with him everywhere. he wrote all the time. a lot of it never saw the light of day... and for the record, while he always wrote from a place of spontaneity and immediacy, he *did* edit his work.
paulparanoid 1 year ago
GOOD MAN. Wonderfully 80s this vid.
Boggert 3 years ago
Interesting thought on Winogrand & his last book:
Thomas Roma was approached by John Szarkowski to create a posthumous book of W's last works, using only W's marked-up proofs to select the images. Roma declined & fought w/ S over it, saying W would NOT have approvd publishing work he hadn't OKd for publ. But S insisted, said "I'm doing the book with or w/out you." So Roma was forced to do it, because they BOTH knew R was the ONLY one who best knew W's person, and his personal mark-ups best.
ariellejsa 3 years ago
Great Video. Thanks for posting.
Doesntreallymatter20 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this. Who is that at the end, Bill Moyers?
sleepcity 4 years ago
Nice to see a photographer considered to be a master in his business.
Best Regards,
LuisM
Hoboken,NJ
Sefardisafran 4 years ago
there is an dvd where you can see the same with Cartier Bresson, but its from the year 2002... looks better :-)
Kai
Leipzig/germany
kaitakecare 4 years ago