57303 couples up to 390002

[originalauthor]

brilliant first time I have seen this happen really inpressive!

[mimzor78]

Why did this happen? train broke down?

[video47]

@mimzor78 The train goes on to North Wales where there is no electrification to power it, a Diesel is needed to pull it to Holyhead.

[newsanimations]

@video47 Waste of money to do that to be honest they should use a voyger :)

[atreewithnolife]

wow you need to be on the ball and fit to do that job!

[tetramoo]

train intercourse!

[007agent5]

just imagine the dude drivin the pendolino was told 2 move forwads wen the guy who was on the rails was well on the rails!!!

[billyballbuster]

ive coupled up dick tracy at euson station when i was a coupler there back in 1989 unless im mistaken ,using the older type of coupling cant remember what its called ,scard the bejesus out of me ,they are a noisey monester at track level ,oh coupling was the basic "screw" type .

[irishmanufan]

@billyballbuster i saw and photographed 57305 john tracy at euston station last thursday as i came off a virgin voyager from chester ( my journey had started in hollyhead). it seems what you remember form 89 might still be going on !

[SteamMad]

@billyballbuster coupling up steam locos if far more noisy and scary i do it regularly

[billyballbuster]

that coupler should of isolated the brake on that 57 by opening the break valve !

[Mintmadmike]

@billyballbuster You don't need to isolate the brake on the 57 once it is attached to the 390 as the brakes on the 390 will prevent any movement.

[billyballbuster]

@Mintmadmike break should be closed on the other thing which killed the top and tail at Euston before it was privatised and open for normal running on the 57 ,when the 57 coupled up then with the break CLOSED on the pendolino the 57 couldnt run off down the track with the coupler between the 2 of them, well thats how it use to work on the normal rolling stock on the class 87,86 and so on of my day when i was a coupler ,maybe they are trying to take the coupler out of the loop as well !

[Trainbuff2008]

I wondered how trains bred lol the 57 made abit of a racket after he coupled up to her.

[ewsiscrap]

Nice to see shunter wearing correct PPE, giving both drivers a job breif before the coupling up movement.

Wearing bump cap to go below sole bar levels and most importantly proper gloves.

[Damocles178]

Very cool :) It's interesting to see that they have to modify the 47 to be compatible with the Pendilo's coupling. Thank you for sharing :)

[Damocles178]

I mean 57 sorry. It's a very easy mistake considering a 57 uses the exact same body shell with internal differences such as the engine. A 57 is pretty much a rebuilt 47.

[MerseyrailMad]

@Damocles178  Correct, 57's were created from old 47's!

Great Video!

Danny

[headstandking]

thanks for explaining!

[IMAGEterrorist]

sometimes (but not always) i like to throw bricks at pendolinos. i sometimes leave debris on the tracks too

[MegaCooper19]

what happend  to the old hook and bolt as i call it

[MegaCooper19]

11pm?

[martyn518]

nice, didn't even realise that the more modern hst's could be coupled up to locos

[Modeltrainguy]

COOL! =O

5 Stars!

[happyguy82]

so does the diesel loco pressurise the brake lines all throughout the pendo as well? presumably the pendo will be set in neutral throughout the un-electrified section of the track?

[FTorresisdabest]

why are they coupoling together?

[heyrodders]

scroll though the comments and I think you will find the answer you are looking for ;-D

[gummiechris]

they might have a broken train so they called a train to tow it like on Trainz 2006 online a guy couldn't start a train so i towed him

[jackieboyish]

because pendolinos are electric and that part of the track is not electric

[tevez32rooney10]

you can't get me between the two trains..

[westhamwizza]

what happened and did i toe it all the way to edinborough thats were they go int it

[ThisIs2009]

when was this filmed?

[stefoxy500saintsfan]

hey all,check my vid of a virgin flying through milton keanes was brilliant!!

[Bevoin1970]

When the train in the video first hooks up, does he try to pull away to check the connection same as trucks do after hitching a trailer up, or does the driver just know its all hooked up ok by viewing maybe red or green warning lights in the cab ???

[neilb43]

We do a push and pull test with this sort of coupling, simple really.

[Bevoin1970]

Thanks

[GC97SPX]

I dont mean to sound stupid but what happens to the trains that go out of use when new ones come in?

[irishandproud15]

scrapped , sold or preserved

[ravechief24]

believe me if i had another job to go to i would it really isn't that good also alot of dead things get peeled of the front of the trains (birds, sheep etc). theres at least 9 virgin trains in the depot and 2 mark4's (gner, national express) trains outside i'll need to film how bad the mess is one night also a pendo or voyeger when its been shut down

[ravechief24]

i clean these pendo's and voyegers in glasgow's polmadie depot there a lot higher up than this too you should see them on a friday night it's like a bomb hit it also its very weird being on them in pitch blackness trying to pick up rubbish its fun being on them when there doing the tilt test in the depot

[video47]

Cool, you don't appreciate how big they are from the platform, its hard to climb up on some engines from the ground. People are so messy, newspapers strewn around I bet, and a lot worse too, good with the tests, any jobs going there :-)?

[Bevoin1970]

I'll agree with that. I once went into Bombardier at Burton Upon Trent to collect brake pads which had to be shipped to a Virgin Train down in Crawley. This Virgin Pedolino was parked up over the work pit and I got to walk along the complete length of it looking for someone to help me. Stood along side it, the train felt huge in relation to me as I was stood next to it. I'll never forget that night...

[SignalCO45]

@ravechief24 I clean trains too, at Colchester Depot, 321s, 360s, 170, 153/156 there a mess on a thursday and fridays, do you work for Virgin or contract? I used to clean trains at Ilford Depot, its strange when cleaning them in the dark! At Colchester its much better. I bet you find strange things lol

[windowspczone]

How come they had to couple them together?

[TemptationsStrikes]

Because the main train runs on over head power cables, so where it is going there could be a power failure ahead or they are taking it onto a line without the cables.

[windowspczone]

They should of just replaced it with a Voyager service =/

[TemptationsStrikes]

They might not have been one available?

[mac550]

sod that, the 220/221 are crap. i hate the damn things

[b191191]

hahaha so do i aswell there awfull

390 always

but i do love the 220 engine sounds i must admit

especially now arive have the cross country franchise there compleet dickheads

and they have messed up them voyagers

[mac550]

nope, the only locos i kinda like since privatization is the 66 and 67, even then im not a huge fan of them.

[lp90user]

that is so cool how they do that

[AZstigie69]

only think with electric trains they don't bloody work without powerlines so these trains are needed at extra costs to move them on non electric routes

[windowspczone]

Wouldn't you think they might use the Super Voyagers on those routes?

[back2frinky]

You don't realise how big trains are when you're stood on a platform. That guy looks tiny when he gets down on the track.

[KRAU53R]

Yeah true, Im southern platform staff at London victoria and sometimes our class 455 and 456 have to be detached offside, means getting a block on opposite platform, jump down in between 2 750v rails the trains are masive the first time you do a split in the so called 6foot (centre) you sh*t yourself but after with experience it becomes routine.

[JORDANRICE07]

what a job these guys have got.

great vid

[tahthing]

yer hornby need to do that with there hst's since they look ugly with that coupling sticking out.

[ThomasAZ232]

omg that is so cool

lol

[xesionprince]

any real drivers know whether it takes much skill to control the diesel loco like that?

[type2thrash]

A good vid of how the 'Dellner' coupler works!

[DarkRage960]

its alan tracey lol

[Hilux5972]

What a shame we cant re-enact this with the new Hornby Pendolinos and Bachmann Thunderbirds. Oh well, Maybe in the future........

[tom201090]

@Hilux5972 technically u might be able to by customorizing it a bit (attach a Bachman Thunderbirds coupling to the front or rear of a virgin) 

[jconnor1988]

aaaah maan, that sound is sooooo awesome

[60037]

what a long and complex mess, dunno whats wrong with a a pair of buffers and a screwlink.

[video47]

Neither do I, would be a lot easier if it was the standard sort, but the 390 needs to get its power this was from the 57. Bring back the HST's and 47's.

[trainmaster500]

@video47 

[trainmaster500]

@60037 The Japanese seemed to perfected this procedure of joining trains together.. youtube the Narita Express at Tokyo station and you'll see.

[dogyodla]

haha fk that id never go on there id be scared shitless lol

[hardcoretilldie313]

They were doing work on the West Coast Main Line north of Crewe which meant that the overhead lines were turned off. This was a tempory situation but it still made an impact... I saw this happening twice cos I was travelling in the opposite direction

[Sephy69]

why did they need to couple it up?

[heyrodders]

Virgin Pendolino's are electric trains that get their power from overhead power lines... When they need to go along line with no overhead powerlines they need a Diesel Locomotive like 57303 "Alan Tracy" in this clip to "tow" them.

[heyrodders]

fascinating video clip... I have a layman's interest in railway goings on... especially diesel locomotives... because my dad drove them mainly class 40's & 47's out of Newton Heath depot here in Manchester in British Rail days.... These "Thunderbird" class 57's are they modified 47's or are they a totally different locomotive... video47 /??/

[video47]

Class 57's are former class 47's. The body shell is almost the same. They were converted at Brush Loughbourgh where 47's were originally made. The engine units are reconditioned GM engines from the US (Yank Tanks, Bodysnatchers, Ronnies) They are all nicknames for the 57's. Freightliner have some 57/0s and they look just like the 47's at the front with little or no modification.

[heyrodders]

ok cheers mate for that bit of info on these fine machines.. i've not been near any of these 57's yet... I used to stand next to any class 47's at Manchester Piccadilly...Vulcan, Traction Magazine etc while waiting for the football special... I used to love the sound they made especially while idling... keep up the good work ;-)

[video47]

Thanks, hard to beat the sound of Sulzer I know. I want to make more 47 videos on here from 2003, but they need converting first which will take a while. I love 47's hence the name of my site video47.

[heyrodders]

I have another question for you mate... why do trains run with one light brighter than the rest on the front... pendo's, voyagers etc have more headlights on one side than the other when they are running... 57303 has one headlight on in this clip... 47's have two lights in the headcode panel & a brighter light below...etc etc /??/

[cray1996]

The Reason for this on the Class 47's they never had Headlights from the Start the things in the Ex headcode box are Marker lights so they can be spotted, The reason why on Modern locomotives one light is brighter then the other is due too Night Time Running/ Day Light Running lights as to avoid blinding other drivers, and also Still for Identifcation uses.

Hope that helped

[heyrodders]

ok quite logical really... cheers cray ;-)

[video47]

Personally I don't know, but I think the main lights may be called a marker light? I think so long as there is one bright light for track workers to see the train coming with all these safety rules and stuff.

[cray1996]

Locomotives and DMU's/ EMU's only started to get headlights (dedicated) in the 80's, but they are still used for marker lights to help Signal man, Track workers, Station staff etc

[danfitz12345]

@heyrodders The bright light is the headlight which is on the left at night and the right at day. The faint lights are marker lights.

[continental757200]

they are modified 47s

[PrentonPimp]

Top vid, mate! Virgin should give some 37's dellner couplers. Just imagine - doubleheaded tractors thrashing up the 'coast with a pendo on the Holyhead!

[video47]

Top man! I would recommend you to run the franchise any day. I would love a 1st gen diesel doing these honours!

[dimebag4lyfe]

this may sound silly but i would be terrified to get between two trains like that lol that workers got bottle

[manufan2007]

Many thanks for the information, regarding my question, and apologies for not responding sooner. Happy Christmas!

[bjmorley]

still mostly a mans job like on the original screwlink couplings!

[Mintmadmike]

Yer but they have got a female shunter at crewe now

[megashorts]

i went on a train like this yesterday from chester

[video47]

Good place to see them

[manufan2007]

Ok no problems. I know they do a brake test, but i doubt they would rev the engines for that..

[asama189]

The rev is to make sure both loco & Pendo are firmly coupled before the braking air pass through the Pendo. This is quite common practice in Japan's railway company.

I just wonder why the Pendo need to couple with the diesel loco. Is that the Pendo going to serve the non-electricfied area? The Pendo seems like in running condition.

[ProSneakyD]

yes its going along the north wales coast line where its not electrified.

[manufan2007]

Just out of interest, why did the 57 driver rev the engine a few times, at the end, straight after coupling up to the Pendo?

[video47]

I am not an expert on this sorry

[37thrasher]

Its called the pull away test to check if the coupling has actually coupled, hence power is needed to pull away and hence the engine revs - so now you know!

[ProSneakyD]

Wow, interesting, always wanted to see these two trains couple together.