LUPE PINTOR VS JOHNNY OWEN

[1369rockstar]

en la primera caida de owen era momento de parar la pelea descanse en paz johnny owen

[pe6obutilkata]

Who let this toothpick to fight ?

[andreschih]

Y si eran los mismos pesos, porque uno se ve mas flaco que el otro!

[zmaacrekk]

@andreschih altura

[rgalvez24]

Yo vi esa pelea y me impactó la xcaída de Owen al ser golpeado por Pintor. Fue una tragedia que impactó a Lupe Pintor... una desgracia haya muerto este boxeador !!

[elmecanicoloko]

JHONNY OWEN ERA PESO MIERDA NO PESABA NADA ESE SERILLO R.IP FUE VALIENTE

[Doderhultarn89]

The always classy mexican fans threw beerbottles at Owens dead body when they carried him out of the ring.

[atirisdes]

he was too fucking thin to be a boxer!!!

[m0ng3d]

@atirisdes thin enough to knock the fuck out of you silly cunt

[TheChoice264]

@atirisdes Just so you know,"skinny" has absolutely nothing to do with being a boxer. Many of the most devastating punchers in ring history were skinny men, and some of the toughest and most durable. Just thought you should know that. Peace.

[algunwey01]

esas si eran peleas, lamentablemente habia muchas muertes y lo mejor es la integridad de los boxeadores.

[NIGHTSKYE1]

RIP johnny, from all of us in blackwood, gwent. im not gonna lie to you johnny, you where one hell of a guy. respect

[walthamstow63]

terrapatra, even today, if he was alive he'd smash you across the border into Texas, you ignorant t^sser.

[josemezatorrez]

This was a true fight of two lions that had the balls and heart to go toe to toe.My respects to Owens and so sad for him and his family.I read that the Owens family told Pintor that they did not blame him and to keep on fighting and not quit boxing.

[terrapatra]

no wonder he died, look how skinny he is, you need to be big and strong to be a fighter

[Toolmusik]

@terrapatra *shakes head*

[NIGHTSKYE1]

@terrapatra your a fucking cock fella, i bet the late johnny owens would floor you after one punch. "big an strong" shut the fuck up.

[imotep09]

@terrapatra Not just big strong guys fight man. They have weight divisions so talented boxers of all weights can fight. Tall and skinny guys actually will knock you out quicker than a bodybuilder type. FACT. Show some respect dude.

[bigdfrombermondsey]

pintor unveiled a memorial to johnny in his home town and johnnys parents urged pintor to carry on with his career after this fight,im not welsh but i admire them as a nation.

[omaryjasmine]

El comentarista es un pendej0 klaro k kallo muerto que estupido se a de aver sentido despues ke deskanse en paz owens

[VAMOSFUNEBREROS]

@omaryjasmine dice que callo como muerto por que asi es, no murio al instante, estuvo hospitalizado mas de un mes y murio, el señor andere es uno de los mejores narradores de boxeo en la historia

[v2rr52667]

@VAMOSFUNEBREROS primero informate cabron ese buey no murio en el ring

[VAMOSFUNEBREROS]

@v2rr52667 yo no dije eso, que la describcion diga muerte de JOHNNY no significa nada

[makeitconjunto]

@omaryjasmine No seas prejuicicio con el maestro Andere que era de los mejores narradores de boxeo en Mexico toda una institucion siempre narro las mejores peleas de campeonato en esos años, claro que lo dice en sentido figurado al ver caer a Owen.

[RNOB]

@omaryjasmine

no, el relator dijo "como muerto" en referencia a q fue un K.O. inminente, no se referia a la defuncion del boxeador

[POSTMORTEMBLACK]

@omaryjasmine el pendejo(a) eres tu, cayo como muerto y asi fue fijate y aun respiraba owen, desafortunadamente fallecio siete semanas despues, le operaron el craneo y detectaron que tenia malformaciones, asi que no escribas pendejadas, ahora ¿quien se siente estupido?

[jexs8989]

yyyyyyyy cayo como muerto what a dumb@sss the guy that is talking about the fights just said taht he fall like death hahahah thats foking hilarious because he really died

[BTC141]

Pintor was just too mature, too strong for Johnny. But the little Welshman fought his heart out and gave Lupe a good fight. No shame in that. R.I.P. Matchstick man.

[EsperantoBr]

Muy Bueno Vídeo!!!!

[cstrait]

the fasn there had no respect. throwing bottles of piss at owen's body as they took him out of the ring.

[cstrait]

they unveiled a statue of owen in his hometown in wales. and pintor was there.

[cbbsrl]

joder al pobre Lupe Pintor le esperan Dias de remordimiento y agonia TAL COMO ESTA PASANDO EN LA ACTUALIDAD NO!!! y en lo futuro le espera la revancha contra Jhonny Owen en el mas alla

[Cargo130]

@cbbsrl COMO DICES ESO, NI MODO QUE LUPE PINTOR HAYA QUERIDO MATAR A OWEN, MAS BIEN, LA CULPA FUE DEL REFERI QUE NO PARO LA PELEA EN EL MOMENTO INDICADO.

[kaoscityko]

ayyyyyy SALE EL PUTO DIABLO 2:05 NOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Gangaleon]

Cayo como muerto!!! Cayo como muerto!!! dice el comentarista, pues claro que cayo como muerto si el tipo murio.

[tchuko001]

He was a great boxer , had lots of guts. That was a tragedy. Lupe had no fault.

[badaboum223]

at 2:05 its the devil in the background

[FCSJesse]

yesss is the devil buajajajajaja

[priestpega]

I don't see any devil there.

[badaboum223]

dont you see the 2 littles glowing eyes

[KellingtonBuzz]

@badaboum223

No, it's just a bloke with reflective glasses / sunglasses on.

[KBoogs719]

very sad and very tragic, i don't follow boxing that much anymore but i will always remember pintor as the man who killed owen, and owen as the man killed by a brutal sport.

[KBoogs719]

if this was mma the ref would have stopeed the fight probably after the first ko, definitely after the second, it would be a ko for pintor and owen would still be alive today, assuming he didn't die from some other cause, but this shows the danger in boxing that for some reason goes ignored, it's in no way as safe as mma, mma is much safer, no fighter is allowed to get beat that bad, there has NEVER been a coma after an mma fight and only one death from a man NOT medically cleared.

[M14Mann]

Who the hell did Johnny Owen beat, that he would be put in the ring with a fighter of the caliber of Lupe Pintor? This death wasn't caused by the "brutality of boxing" But by the ratings system of the alphabet soup championship. I can't remember, but if I was a betting man I'd say this was a WBC championship fight.

[Dickyrippley]

I'm British and I agree with you totally. Anybody could see Owen wasn't strong enough to be fighting a boxer of Pintors class and strength. I felt very sad for Owen. I wish the fight would have just been stopped after the first knock down. Owen had guts probable to much,

[Metal666ATX9ers]

@M14Mann yep for the WBC bantomweight championship

[haggs0009]

naw in 120 matches (i think) he lost 6

[magslyfarnham1]

RIP Matchstick Man...you had the heart of a lion and died far too young.......Respect to Tyson for paying tribute today to your statue.......respect also for Lupe Pintor who showed great courage in meeting Johnny's family in Wales some years back.

[carnnage14]

At 3:35 the commentator says, "Cayó como muerto" which translates into "He fell as if he died" This was very disturbing...

[KBoogs719]

i was wondering what he said i thought he was saying someone help him he might be dead

[Crispears1]

owen was born with an unusually fragile skull, its a iacle he lasted this long!

[psykocowboy]

Unpredictable life is. May he rest in peace. Thank you for your time in the ring Johnny Owen, you'll never be forgotten.

[KierenMan]

BAd times for the pressure/high volume fighter when he meets a proper power puncher.

[Metaldevil1016]

Hasta eso si ves mas o menos por el minuto 3:48 aprox, se ve como owen aun respira...apenas = /

[ERITHLTHR]

De hecho, si no me equivoco, quedó en coma y murió 7 semanas después. A propósito de lo que dice an147, cayó "vivo".

[an147]

¿Cayó como muerto? Cayó muerto! Este es uno de los grandes riesgos del boxeo. Aparte esta pelea... ese Johnny Owen comparado con Pintor, en fisico. Pobre muchahco.

[MarceloHardoy]

The fight should have been stopped after the first or at most the second Knockdown. Owen looked very frail at that point.

[occultdestroyer]

Owen is sooooooo thin O_O

He's like a skeleton.

[mrceebees14]

2:03 was a huge mistake, Johnny just threw that left out there and never covered up.

[mrceebees14]

Owen was not conditioned for a fight like this. If he stopped punching for a second Pintor had time to set and Pintor was a HARD puncher.

[fas34ful]

este deporte es asi.el riesgo lo corren ambos,en aquel entonces (1979),el boxeador era obligado a pelear durante 15 rounds,de manera innecesaria,hoy afortunadamente,el boxeador esta mas protegido,a pesar de la ineptitud que aun existe en algunos referees y medicos.

[pitviper71]

That piece of shit should not be celebrating killing a starved man, sigh.

[shire2005]

Owens sure wanted that title.

How unfortunate and tragic.

[HenckyVonMises]

lamentable suceso en el boxeo mundial ..

[mcmarita]

Los asesinos fueron los organizadores, porque dejaron combatir al debilucho galés y el árbitro que tendría que haber parado la pelea en la segunda caída...

[DAVIDMARCH76]

A truly great man with the heart of a warrior. If either of my 2 boys have half the heart and passion I've red you had, I'll be as proud a fella as your old man, Dick.

[televin]

you'd be proud to have your sons beaten to death in a boxing ring???? I bet his old man would rather have him alive.

[goku947]

im mexican and we respect OWEN CAUSE HE NEVER QUIT he was a true warrior ,,,,and pintor was very sad about that ,

[bondey6678]

@goku947

Yeah you respect owen, thats why you were throwing bottles of piss at him and spitting on him when they carried him out, Yeah you respected him alright.

[ianandori]

Incredibly sad the ending of this fight.Owen's father never forgave himself for not stopping the fight after Owen got a badly cut lip. Johnny just refused to quit.That being said. He gave a truly PEAK Pintor hell in this fight.A testament to how good a fighter Johnny Owen is.There is a doco floating around on this fight .Pintor actually travels to Owen's hometown to meet Owen's family,having not laid eyes on them since the fight.That maketh the man in my eyes.Pinto.Gr8 fighter,gr8 man.

[santia1811]

RIP Johnny Owen. he was slim but he was a complete warrior

[SalVelaSanchez]

I´m Mexican, and Owen was not only a great Hearted Boxer, he was a Great Son, Athlete, and Person. He gave much more than his body could. This is one of the saddest stories in Boxing History, that night, two Died, the Person of Johny Owen and the Boxer Lupe Pintor, Pintor never forgave himself after that fight, but if there was someone to blame, I would go with the Referee and Owens Corner. Reast in Heaven Great Match Stick Man Johny Owen from Wales!

[keefy349]

u mexican cunts throwing cans at him u bastards i come from his home town have some respect RIP johnny

[ScorpionYank37]

RIP Johnny Owen.

Even though his body has a fragile appearance, he has heart and grit.

[tvargan]

One of the serious problems here was total lack of crowd control. As medics were trying to attended to the injured boxer, fans were throwing things and getting in the way. In "The Big If" one of Jonny's team mentions he got picked pocketed.

Nowadays this has improved, but boxing crowds can still be a problem- standing up, getting drunk, getting in the way etc.

That said, there is no real sollution to the basic issue- punches to the head are dangerous.

[osvie01]

It's so heartbreaking to watch. Johnny was a good guy. It really affected Pintor, and it was Johnny's family who encouraged him to continue fighting.  R.I.P. Johnny Owen.

[BTC141]

Yes, Pintor had a hard time fighting after Owen's death. Pintor said that when he would fight he would be scared to hit opponents hard because he was afraid that he would kill another man. Pintor felt a lot of remorse but said Owen was a true warrior and went to Wales to unveil a statue of Johnny in the fighter's home town.

[ManuelPeraltaOrnelas]

cayo como muerto!

1.Salvador Sanchez Ricardo Lopez

[Locardowns]

"como muerto?"

cayó MUERTO!

[joebettsmate]

R.I.P

Jonny Owen

[rikumo15]

arriba mexico kbrones asi de kbrones somos

[BTC141]

First time I saw this fight was when I was 15. I was boxing in the Canadian Junior amateurs and just came back from the Nationals where I got silver. I'm still amazed at the heart and tenacity of Johnny Owen. He had alot of moxy and grit. I was shocked to learn that he went into a coma. You live on in our hearts and minds Johnny.

[BTC141]

I had also been a fan of Lupe Pintor and admired his point blank straight ahead style of fighting. Thank you for posting.

[lickstickly]

joeygonzo i will concede you make a good point about fathers training their sons as if a father stops a fight against his sons wishes it would put a strain on the relationship but it doesnt change the fact that Dick did not know about Johhny's condition and there is nothing you can say to counter that, the only blame lay with boxing's lack of mandatory brainscans in the early 80's as i have seen boxers take worse beatings than Johhny took and carry on with their careers end of story r.i.p John

[pedrinelastronauta]

I remember this fight clearly, i was seven. Back then fights were broadcast on regular TV. It was a real treat for fans. Unfortunate loss for Johnny, and his family. Lupe Pintor was never the same fighter, he fell under bouts of deppression.

[cgyiltis]

I saw the fight a few days before my dad died in an accident I was 10, I still rmember, and wondering why they did not stop the fight.

its been almos 28 yrs since his death. today is 28 yrs also for my dad's death.

so, I send my condolenses to the family of Johnny Owen, from a Mexican that still remembers a true warrior.

Peace to all

[judas1013]

Asi somos los mexicanos de cabrones. orgullo mexicano. IF DO YOU WANT SEE ANOTHER LEGEND. SEARCH SALVADOR SANCHEZ. THE BEST.¡¡¡¡¡

[milk115]

a true warrior never took a backward step johnny owen ;jimmy wilde would have been proud r i p johnny a sad and tragic accident

[slanker786]

this is why minimumweights and other anorexics should be banned. they didnt eat enough and their skulls are thin.

[EZEKIELVO]

that its wath you says coz you are fat jajajaja

fagget

[plofus]

richard steele was not the ref in this fight, it was marty denkin who is or was still around at least as a judge,for all the heat steele took for stopping fights too quick[taylor-chavez@tyson-rudd­ock 1]no fighter ever died in a fight he worked.

[plofus]

i heard that pintors rowdy fans pissed on owen while he was being carried out.

[slanker786]

yeah bro he killed that cracker, lol.

[MrYib]

Wow. you're really a rather disrespectful prick, aren't you? Here's wishing you an untimely demise also. Asshole.

[chisacat]

lying bastard - jonnys dad did not know his son was hurt prior to this fight - what a bull shitting twat you are - he was my mothers cousin ??? you sad lying twat - go to a gym and spar 3 or 4 rounds there with one of the lads , then you will think before dissing boxers from the anonymity of your PC - go back to wanking over world of wank craft and leave the fighting to the real men - sad lil fuckstick

[arielcardona]

Just brutal. And it was shocking when the announcer said, just after the KO: "he fell like (he was) dead." Little (or maybe not) did he know.

[lickstickly]

at least i have a source to reference unlike some guy at a gym?!, I just cant ever see a son putting his on in any unneccesary danger i have ordered the book containing his diary entries so will see if he was getting headaches but i dont think he was mate plus the docs did say the condition he had was rare and it would be pure fluke to diagnose it in time, but no you go on with your bizarre untrue theories

[lickstickly]

its amazing the amount of disrespect shown to Johnny on this board, Johnny had taken every title he could in Europe and ostrogoth182 has taken it to a new level with that whopper of a lie, joeygonzo title shots do not go out of the window forever if you postpone them Johnny's record was enough to get one eventually even it wasnt with Pintor & he did hide his strategy(pointless idea i admit but its TRUE), i just cant believe you people believe his father knew of this condtion b4 the fight

[lickstickly]

thats coz it IS a myth you jackass, im stating what his training staff actually said and it made logical sense to not show your opponent your attacking style you are passing on information you heard from some guy, i really dont think his dad would have made him fight if he wasnt 100% they could have always re-scheduled it user your head mate!

[lickstickly]

i know he wasnt exactly a power puncher but if you watch the tribute vid to him on youtube his trainer confirms the story, no need to be an ass mate im just stating the actual story but whatever you believe what you like

[lickstickly]

thats a myth, Johnny did spar but he didnt attack in his sparring sessions to fool his opponent and a lot of trainers in gym said 'that guy isnt even sparring properly' and throughout the years it changed to 'he didnt spar at all'

[RobertoHMV]

Lupe Pintor, uno de los grandes en todos los sentidos. Le pegó mucho la muerte de J. Owen. Se retiró muy pronto. Hace ya más de diez años largos, quizá quince, veía a don Lupe ir a comparse de vez en cuando sus trajes a una tienda de ropa para caballero en la calle de Antonio Caso esquina con Insurgentes, de nombre Violante. Don Lupe muy serio, sin aspaviento, alguno. Todo un caballero. Terrible cosa la muerte del Cerillo Owen.

[nobbin19]

There was a big outcry when Owen died, but he gave everything he had against an outstnding champ so no disgrace in losing. If that headace claim is true, Owen's trainer should be done for murder.

Pinter has since visited Wales and met Owen's family.

[nobbytang]

if thats true then his manager / trainer needs shafting - please can you give me names dates etc as I am sure the people in Wales would love to know that

[corytclark]

Johnny Owen was a game little fighter. But did he even stand a chance at beating Lupe Pintor? My answer would be "NO"

[johnfish1]

wee man massive heart your das with you now

[GWShark1]

My admiration for a brave and proud figther.

May he rest in peace.

I still get the shivers when I hear the original Spanish broadcast.

[budfr]

Now do you chavez haters understand why his first and second fights against taylor were stopped? He just had permanent brain damage but could have been worse.

[cbaldwinjr]

The first fight was stopped with TWO seconds! That logic is garbage...unless Chavez was one of the fucking X-Men and could teleport with claws that came out of his boxing gloves, that fight would've ended and Taylor would've won as he rightfully should have.

[budfr]

the referee didn´t know about the time, and he was black. He ended with a destroyed face, body, and urinating blood. And if you see the Knockdown, notice he was lucky to hold a rope, if he would have fallen in the middle of the ring no way he can stand up. Watch the second fight, the referee acted wrongly again? and now he is retarded, peramanent brain damage maybe one of those hard shots to the head by chavez had something to do with it. Muscles are not everything.

[n0nach0s]

It's not over until the fat lady sings.

[ianandori]

Amen scouser. So incredibly sad. Pintor ? An all time great in my eyes. Owen ? A legend !!

[budfr]

I don´t like to watch european boxers much but I have to agree that welsh people are brave, non of that black thing of hugging and running. (except hatton, he hugs too much.)

[Crispears1]

Hatton isn't welsh!

[budfr]

ok !!! But don´t Welsh people followed his career too ???? cause he´s from Britain?? Or not.

[Crispears1]

A true welshman b goin "grrrrrrrrrrrr" at u 4 that as the big argument is who's been britain's best boxer of the noughties hatton or calzaghe? personally i lean 2wards calzaghe tho i like hatton and i feel he's contributed more to british boxing but calzaghe is the better boxer and had a better career.

[XionComrade]

Always got to remember that Hatton DID beat Kostya Tszyu, probably the most talented 140lbs fighter ever.

[Crispears1]

true. But Kosta was 36 yrs old an had fought only like twice in 2-3 years, 4 a light welter that is ancient. Not knocking hattons ability or bottle but imo if that fight wasn't in manchester hatton wud have struggled. He fought well but if u watch the tape, a bit dirty, low blows etc a slightly biased ref wud have crucified hatton 4 that, calzaghebeat a 43 year old hopkins, a hopkins past his best no doubt but a hopkins who is currently at 44 yrs p4p no3 in the world. higher than kosta eva was!

[L1Scouser]

That was the scariest and most brutal knockout that ive ever seen in any sport in the world and it was hard to take

[nduchene1]

I completely agree. That was straight chilling.

[robknight42]

i remember watching this live at the age of 15 and can still remember the sickening feeling when he was knocked out. johnny is a hero in wales and will never be forgotten!! A tragic death!

[kinered]

Maybe you don't undestand the spanish commmentarist. At 3.35 He said "se acabó la pelea calló como muerto", it's mean "the fight was finish, he fall like death..."

[GreatIntellect13]

"The fight is over, he fell over as if he was dead" is the correct translation.

[Kedbuka]

Owen was a Welsh warrior. He gave Pintor all he could handle. This is such a tragic fight. It's hard to watch. God bless Johnny -- rest in peace.

[kolst8406]

Yes, that final knockdown is hard to watch.

[kriglop]

Johnny era un verdadero valiente,su valentía y espiritu de lucha lo hicieron sobrepasar sus límites. Mis respetos para el gran Sr. Owens.

[scabado]

Descanse en paz Johnny Owen,

[lukilladog]

Descanse en paz Johnny

[erick7101985]

gran pelea

[Oct83ber]

Una pelea historico, muy triste que murio Owen.