@taffygirlz but why natalie or mick?i mean they lied jus as much as russell to stay in the game because all 4 of them had to say cuz the odds were 8-4. the only difference between russells game and natalie,mick and jaisons were is that he made the desicions and they went along with it and lied with him
Yes, Russell played a great stratigic game. He dominated stratigically from day one and kept everything all the way to the end. BUT, he didn't play a good enough social game. Mick sucked all around but Natlie's social game was supirior. She took it upon herself not to ride anyone off and be nice to everyone. and natalie's stradegy was to lay low and attach herself to the power player. Russ, on the other hand didn't and in the end was less favored by the jury.
@taffygirlz who cares about being nice!? its not a personal game!!! i can understand lying but they both lied!!!! without russell there is no natalie she woulda been gone the first second or third day of the merge!!!!!
WHO CARES ABOUT BEING NICE?!?! TRY ERIK, KELLY, LAURA, DAVE, MONICA, JAISON, AND BRETT! I'm sorry, but Russell didn't make ANY personal relatonships, and was mean and cocky to people. You have to understand the fact that these people live together, and at the end of the day, they don't want to give the money to the bully. Also, yes, without Russ, nat would have been gone very soon, BUT, she was smart enough to attatch herself to russ! THAT IS STRADEGY! And russell is just being a big baby. GOD!
@taffygirlz plus yah natalies strategy was sticken to russ so u compare her strategy to the guy she stuck wit that called all the shots for. i mean yah it was a smart strategy because everyone who tried to get him out were voted out like the first 2 people so that strategy could people alot of people possibly all of galu besides brett but it defs could not beat russells
@taffygirlz its a game. and first of all name one time where he was a bully name one time!!!!!!!!!!!!! and u think his social game sucked!!!3 people coulda voted for him in the end easily once he couldnt use the idol!! but they didnt because of his social game. plus theres 3 elements to win survivor. the one u need the most is strategic then physical then social game which u really dont need. i really hope he does win heroes vs villians but its gunna b hard because these ppl seen him play b4
Remember when he sat there in the hammock saying "Well, im gonna win so who wants second, here ill tell ya what to say lalalala im the greatest survivor in history lalalalala" i see that as a bully. And the fact that he wasnt voted off shows his stratigic game, not his social game. what i mean by social game is that natalie took it upon herself to make relationships with everyone, and he didn't. in every season it all depends on the jury. this jury wanted to be treated as people, not pawns.
In china, they voted for todd because he was the best player. this time, thety voted for nat because she treated them like human beings. it all weighs out in the mind of the jury, if they favored stradgy over social, then russ would have won, but they didn't. Natalie dominated socially. End of statement, if she didn't she wouldn't have won. Russ should have developed more personal relatonships. take it from someone who sits home and disects the game in her spare time.
You'll all have plenty to dissect this time around. Hardcore players, taking names and numbers rather than prisoners (well, except Sugar, but she was gone fast), very little margin of error. Oh, and I think jpad already mentioned the potential for a pissed-off bench.
@taffygirlz k give me one personal relationship she had i cant think of any. i dont understand why u say russell didnt treat them like human beings they didnt treat russell or natalie as human beings!!! they said u guys r worthless the 4 of u but russell changed that. ive never seen him be mean to anybody ever so jus drop the whole act
Listen, russell didn't win because he was too busy playing the game rathar than making relationships. Natalie did. when she was talking to the girls to vote out eric, that was making relationships. she had a big relationship with Laura involving religion. Same with Brett. That's three votes already.God, i'm sorry that you're precious Russell didn't win but if he deserved it he would of. Perception is not reality, and in reality, natalie got the check and the title. now shut your ramling trap.
@taffygirlz natalies a lucky bitch. if she wasnt in the same season as russell she wouldnt make it to the merge. do u honestly think laura and brett would of took her to the end?say russell couldnt find the idol and got out second(erik first), it would go natalie,mick, jaison. so relationships social game and all that bullshit doesnt matter
I don't think you understand what i mean by relationships. I don't mean ALLIANCES. No, i don't think laura or brett would take Natalie to the end if they had a choice, BUT, Natalie did talk to them and were civil to them and became their friend. Survivor is a Social, Physical, and Stratigic game, and it all weighs in the mind of the jury as to what is more important to them. In this case more of the people favored the social player rathar than the stratigic. THAT is why Natalie won. the end.
@taffygirlz i honestly do think the jury(besides John and Shambo) was jealous of russell, jealous that one guy could defeat an alliance of 8, that they decided to piss him off by making the dumb quiet chick win. even mick deserved it more then her!!!!!!!!!!!!! i mean it's pretty sad that people are that weak minded
Russell should consider himself lucky that this jury let him off pretty easy. Next season, I doubt that'll be the case. These are veterans out for blood and if he's up to his antics yet again, expect that he ends up with tire marks all over himself. Natalie and the Samoa jury will simply be the least of his problems.
@ballaspud22 They didn't rip him apart during the Final Tribal Council. They were rather calm about it. With regards to the NEXT jury though, these guys are gonna be brutal and they won't hesitate to throw him under the bus during the Final Tribal Council, should he get that far with his bull-in-a-china-shop antics. Remember the first All-Stars?
@jpad319 they didnt rip him apart because they believed he should of one at first. give me one reason why they should rip him apart he never betrayed anyone but john and shambo. the reason why the jury voted for natalie was because of eriks speech and he turned the jury over for natalie
For starters, he p*ssed them off with his attitude towards them. They could have lambasted him for that during the Final Tribal.
Then again, they'll be old news by Thursday. With the next jury, however, I bet he's up to his shenanigans yet again, but come judgment day, that jury will have no qualms calling him out on it and slapping him around.
okay what was wrong wit his attitude towards them they said oh its so easy to take foa foa they should give up now and they were the cocky bastards. all he said was no im not giving up and he took out their whole tribe. and he doesnt care if they slap him around sticks and bone might break his bone but words will never hurt him
Last time I checked, that was Erik, not the whole tribe. Thing was by the time Foa Foa had the numbers, he started gloating, especially whenever someone was voted off.
And FYI, reliable sources say that he's part of the majority in the next season, but nothing more. He simply coattails it to the end with two other women. Needless to say, he pulls an Amanda.
w/e i also heard he was out before the merge so w/e . u have to give him probs for turning 4-8 to 4-1 if u dont then u r jus stupid. yah i will agree he got way to cocky and that was his downfall, but whether he was cocky or not he deserved to beat natalie and mick
@ballaspud22 Natalie gets unassailable credit for persuading a majority to cannibalize one of their own. Russell gets credit for the first two boots, which happen to the same types of people every other season. I doubt all the other boots were even HIS idea.
Google "'Survivor' Crowns A Winner, Offending Many Who Do Not Understand 'Survivor'" and you'll understand, or you can choose not to, but whatever, right?
omg ur an idiot. the only boot natalie did was take out erik was impressive. who did russell take out? umm kelly,laura,john,dave,monica,shambo,jaison,brett? and yah everybody KNOWS all those were russells idea if u were watching the show
the only reason why dave kelly and laura were out was to make sure shambo would vote wit them and whether or not it was their idea it had to approve of russell. if russell disagreed they wouldnt vote for them.like jaison wnated to vote for dave to keep shambos trust but russell said no were voting john im the man im in charge and guess who went home. john.
@ballaspud22 It's a different thing to simply approve of an idea and to actually suggest the idea.
Suggesting the idea implies that you ARE the one who thought of it.
Approving the idea implies that you're simply GOING ALONG with it.
If he just approves decisions, then he wasn't really in charge then. He simply let others think about whom to vote out, gave them his stamp of approval and said that it was all his idea to the camera, which he always does.
k well talking about the camera , how do u kno they made the desicions? maybe russell did and they repeated what he said to show come interest in the other contestants because clearly there was none.
@ballaspud22 That's the editors' fault, not the contestants. Given the chance, the contestants could have been more interesting with an unbiased edit. What we see is just 1% of what happens. Not to mention, it's biased to favor one person. Whatever Probst finds the manliest way to spread love for his man-crush, I guess...
On HvV, he'll have to STFU and share airtime for the likes of Coach, Courtney, Jerri and Tyson.
and kelly was shambos idea,laura was russells even if shambo hated ehr he wanted laura cuz he knew she was the leader of galu, john was russells,dave was to get shambo to shut up so basically no ones, monica was a default, shambo was NOT jaisons i dont know ehere u got that one from it was russells, and brett was default and jaison was russells
@ballaspud22 But the first one who suggested Laura was Shambo, not Russell.
As for Shambo, Russell was just bashing her behind her back and Jaison told him that Shambo needed to go at the time he walked away when Shambo came in.
i understand your one of those self righteos people that hates russell because he's arrogant and you have the fantasy of seeing him voted out its not gonna happen he runs this game even better than the last time don't you think its kinda stupid to judge someone based on their personality in a game like survivor cause the final 5 is all villians this year and that will prove that playing the game with honor is for sappy losers playing dirty is the only way to play
If my favorite player is Boston Rob, WHY IN THE WORLD would you think that I'm "self righteos" and want to see only the so called "Heroes" win. I LOVE the Villains. I love people who play a smart and stategic game and HATE the people who play the "honor and integrity card" (because most of the time, they're idiotic muscleheads *coughjamescough*). Don't make assumtions as to who I want to see win without knowing the contents as to why I don't like Russell. He rubs me the wrong way. End of story.
Yea. he just isn't the typical idiotic hero. I hate "Honor and integrity" players *cough tom cough*, The dumb muscleheads *cough james cough* and the heros that are so wishy washy and think they're so badass because they do flip alliances. I don't even have to cough to tell you that I mean JT. He's an idiot.
the guys on this season were pretty hot.... mick, erik, brett
tallderektoronto 1 year ago
jaison is stupid
szdwe 1 year ago
Jaison hit the nail on the head wih Russell's game.
"Dude, give me a candy bar, or a granola bar and I'll do a little dance for you." lol, i love brett, and that sounds so funny out of contex.
taffygirlz 2 years ago
@taffygirlz but why natalie or mick?i mean they lied jus as much as russell to stay in the game because all 4 of them had to say cuz the odds were 8-4. the only difference between russells game and natalie,mick and jaisons were is that he made the desicions and they went along with it and lied with him
ballaspud22 2 years ago
Yes, Russell played a great stratigic game. He dominated stratigically from day one and kept everything all the way to the end. BUT, he didn't play a good enough social game. Mick sucked all around but Natlie's social game was supirior. She took it upon herself not to ride anyone off and be nice to everyone. and natalie's stradegy was to lay low and attach herself to the power player. Russ, on the other hand didn't and in the end was less favored by the jury.
taffygirlz 2 years ago
@taffygirlz who cares about being nice!? its not a personal game!!! i can understand lying but they both lied!!!! without russell there is no natalie she woulda been gone the first second or third day of the merge!!!!!
ballaspud22 2 years ago
WHO CARES ABOUT BEING NICE?!?! TRY ERIK, KELLY, LAURA, DAVE, MONICA, JAISON, AND BRETT! I'm sorry, but Russell didn't make ANY personal relatonships, and was mean and cocky to people. You have to understand the fact that these people live together, and at the end of the day, they don't want to give the money to the bully. Also, yes, without Russ, nat would have been gone very soon, BUT, she was smart enough to attatch herself to russ! THAT IS STRADEGY! And russell is just being a big baby. GOD!
taffygirlz 2 years ago
@taffygirlz plus yah natalies strategy was sticken to russ so u compare her strategy to the guy she stuck wit that called all the shots for. i mean yah it was a smart strategy because everyone who tried to get him out were voted out like the first 2 people so that strategy could people alot of people possibly all of galu besides brett but it defs could not beat russells
ballaspud22 2 years ago
@taffygirlz its a game. and first of all name one time where he was a bully name one time!!!!!!!!!!!!! and u think his social game sucked!!!3 people coulda voted for him in the end easily once he couldnt use the idol!! but they didnt because of his social game. plus theres 3 elements to win survivor. the one u need the most is strategic then physical then social game which u really dont need. i really hope he does win heroes vs villians but its gunna b hard because these ppl seen him play b4
ballaspud22 2 years ago
Remember when he sat there in the hammock saying "Well, im gonna win so who wants second, here ill tell ya what to say lalalala im the greatest survivor in history lalalalala" i see that as a bully. And the fact that he wasnt voted off shows his stratigic game, not his social game. what i mean by social game is that natalie took it upon herself to make relationships with everyone, and he didn't. in every season it all depends on the jury. this jury wanted to be treated as people, not pawns.
taffygirlz 2 years ago
In china, they voted for todd because he was the best player. this time, thety voted for nat because she treated them like human beings. it all weighs out in the mind of the jury, if they favored stradgy over social, then russ would have won, but they didn't. Natalie dominated socially. End of statement, if she didn't she wouldn't have won. Russ should have developed more personal relatonships. take it from someone who sits home and disects the game in her spare time.
taffygirlz 2 years ago
You'll all have plenty to dissect this time around. Hardcore players, taking names and numbers rather than prisoners (well, except Sugar, but she was gone fast), very little margin of error. Oh, and I think jpad already mentioned the potential for a pissed-off bench.
AllRequired 1 year ago
Yes, these specimins will be largely satisfying.... lol
exept for James, Mr. I'm big and strong an I hate Steph and lalaala I'm not bullying yes i am no im not yes i am.
godddamn him, if they get rid of colby or tom next, im going to slap someone.
taffygirlz 1 year ago
@taffygirlz k give me one personal relationship she had i cant think of any. i dont understand why u say russell didnt treat them like human beings they didnt treat russell or natalie as human beings!!! they said u guys r worthless the 4 of u but russell changed that. ive never seen him be mean to anybody ever so jus drop the whole act
ballaspud22 2 years ago
Listen, russell didn't win because he was too busy playing the game rathar than making relationships. Natalie did. when she was talking to the girls to vote out eric, that was making relationships. she had a big relationship with Laura involving religion. Same with Brett. That's three votes already.God, i'm sorry that you're precious Russell didn't win but if he deserved it he would of. Perception is not reality, and in reality, natalie got the check and the title. now shut your ramling trap.
taffygirlz 2 years ago 3
@taffygirlz natalies a lucky bitch. if she wasnt in the same season as russell she wouldnt make it to the merge. do u honestly think laura and brett would of took her to the end?say russell couldnt find the idol and got out second(erik first), it would go natalie,mick, jaison. so relationships social game and all that bullshit doesnt matter
ballaspud22 2 years ago
I don't think you understand what i mean by relationships. I don't mean ALLIANCES. No, i don't think laura or brett would take Natalie to the end if they had a choice, BUT, Natalie did talk to them and were civil to them and became their friend. Survivor is a Social, Physical, and Stratigic game, and it all weighs in the mind of the jury as to what is more important to them. In this case more of the people favored the social player rathar than the stratigic. THAT is why Natalie won. the end.
taffygirlz 2 years ago
@taffygirlz i honestly do think the jury(besides John and Shambo) was jealous of russell, jealous that one guy could defeat an alliance of 8, that they decided to piss him off by making the dumb quiet chick win. even mick deserved it more then her!!!!!!!!!!!!! i mean it's pretty sad that people are that weak minded
ballaspud22 2 years ago
Russell should consider himself lucky that this jury let him off pretty easy. Next season, I doubt that'll be the case. These are veterans out for blood and if he's up to his antics yet again, expect that he ends up with tire marks all over himself. Natalie and the Samoa jury will simply be the least of his problems.
jpad319 2 years ago
@jpad319 your not really making any sense, the jury didnt let him off easy 7 out of 9 didnt vote for him...
ballaspud22 2 years ago
@ballaspud22 They didn't rip him apart during the Final Tribal Council. They were rather calm about it. With regards to the NEXT jury though, these guys are gonna be brutal and they won't hesitate to throw him under the bus during the Final Tribal Council, should he get that far with his bull-in-a-china-shop antics. Remember the first All-Stars?
jpad319 2 years ago
@jpad319 they didnt rip him apart because they believed he should of one at first. give me one reason why they should rip him apart he never betrayed anyone but john and shambo. the reason why the jury voted for natalie was because of eriks speech and he turned the jury over for natalie
ballaspud22 2 years ago
For starters, he p*ssed them off with his attitude towards them. They could have lambasted him for that during the Final Tribal.
Then again, they'll be old news by Thursday. With the next jury, however, I bet he's up to his shenanigans yet again, but come judgment day, that jury will have no qualms calling him out on it and slapping him around.
jpad319 2 years ago
okay what was wrong wit his attitude towards them they said oh its so easy to take foa foa they should give up now and they were the cocky bastards. all he said was no im not giving up and he took out their whole tribe. and he doesnt care if they slap him around sticks and bone might break his bone but words will never hurt him
ballaspud22 2 years ago
Last time I checked, that was Erik, not the whole tribe. Thing was by the time Foa Foa had the numbers, he started gloating, especially whenever someone was voted off.
And FYI, reliable sources say that he's part of the majority in the next season, but nothing more. He simply coattails it to the end with two other women. Needless to say, he pulls an Amanda.
OOPS! ;)
jpad319 2 years ago
w/e i also heard he was out before the merge so w/e . u have to give him probs for turning 4-8 to 4-1 if u dont then u r jus stupid. yah i will agree he got way to cocky and that was his downfall, but whether he was cocky or not he deserved to beat natalie and mick
ballaspud22 2 years ago
@ballaspud22 Natalie gets unassailable credit for persuading a majority to cannibalize one of their own. Russell gets credit for the first two boots, which happen to the same types of people every other season. I doubt all the other boots were even HIS idea.
Google "'Survivor' Crowns A Winner, Offending Many Who Do Not Understand 'Survivor'" and you'll understand, or you can choose not to, but whatever, right?
jpad319 2 years ago
omg ur an idiot. the only boot natalie did was take out erik was impressive. who did russell take out? umm kelly,laura,john,dave,monica,shambo,jaison,brett? and yah everybody KNOWS all those were russells idea if u were watching the show
ballaspud22 2 years ago
@ballaspud22 No, Kelly and Laura was Shambo's idea.
John was pretty much Russell's idea.
Dave was mostly Shambo's.
Monica was a default when Brett had immunity.
Shambo was Jaison's idea.
And Jaison and Brett were pretty much defaults.
Thing is, I actually LISTEN to what people say and I don't fall for editing biases made to spread the Russell love in the manliest way possible.
jpad319 2 years ago
the only reason why dave kelly and laura were out was to make sure shambo would vote wit them and whether or not it was their idea it had to approve of russell. if russell disagreed they wouldnt vote for them.like jaison wnated to vote for dave to keep shambos trust but russell said no were voting john im the man im in charge and guess who went home. john.
ballaspud22 2 years ago
@ballaspud22 It's a different thing to simply approve of an idea and to actually suggest the idea.
Suggesting the idea implies that you ARE the one who thought of it.
Approving the idea implies that you're simply GOING ALONG with it.
If he just approves decisions, then he wasn't really in charge then. He simply let others think about whom to vote out, gave them his stamp of approval and said that it was all his idea to the camera, which he always does.
jpad319 2 years ago
k well talking about the camera , how do u kno they made the desicions? maybe russell did and they repeated what he said to show come interest in the other contestants because clearly there was none.
ballaspud22 1 year ago
@ballaspud22 That's the editors' fault, not the contestants. Given the chance, the contestants could have been more interesting with an unbiased edit. What we see is just 1% of what happens. Not to mention, it's biased to favor one person. Whatever Probst finds the manliest way to spread love for his man-crush, I guess...
On HvV, he'll have to STFU and share airtime for the likes of Coach, Courtney, Jerri and Tyson.
jpad319 1 year ago
and kelly was shambos idea,laura was russells even if shambo hated ehr he wanted laura cuz he knew she was the leader of galu, john was russells,dave was to get shambo to shut up so basically no ones, monica was a default, shambo was NOT jaisons i dont know ehere u got that one from it was russells, and brett was default and jaison was russells
ballaspud22 1 year ago
@ballaspud22 But the first one who suggested Laura was Shambo, not Russell.
As for Shambo, Russell was just bashing her behind her back and Jaison told him that Shambo needed to go at the time he walked away when Shambo came in.
jpad319 1 year ago
REALLY? HE'S OUT BEFORE THE MERGE?!?!
YAYYYYY!
I hope to GOD Boston takes him out. THAT WOULD BE SWEET!
Natalie deserved the win. end of statement.
taffygirlz 1 year ago
calm ur tits it was a rumour. im pree sure the rumour i heard that he goes all the way to the final wit parvati and sandra is true
ballaspud22 1 year ago
grrr
taffygirlz 1 year ago
russell makes the final 3 again
TheRenegade1098 1 year ago
i heard. Was it from that elimination vid on youtube? because there is a chance that he and boston are switched. here's hoping!
taffygirlz 1 year ago
no it was not from here on youtube it was from the same person who accuratly spoiled the last 2 seasons of survivor someone within the production
TheRenegade1098 1 year ago
no he is not out before the merge boston rob is out before the merge the final 3 is russell sandra and parvati
TheRenegade1098 1 year ago
I see.
taffygirlz 1 year ago
i understand your one of those self righteos people that hates russell because he's arrogant and you have the fantasy of seeing him voted out its not gonna happen he runs this game even better than the last time don't you think its kinda stupid to judge someone based on their personality in a game like survivor cause the final 5 is all villians this year and that will prove that playing the game with honor is for sappy losers playing dirty is the only way to play
TheRenegade1098 1 year ago
If my favorite player is Boston Rob, WHY IN THE WORLD would you think that I'm "self righteos" and want to see only the so called "Heroes" win. I LOVE the Villains. I love people who play a smart and stategic game and HATE the people who play the "honor and integrity card" (because most of the time, they're idiotic muscleheads *coughjamescough*). Don't make assumtions as to who I want to see win without knowing the contents as to why I don't like Russell. He rubs me the wrong way. End of story.
taffygirlz 1 year ago
lol ya thats what i thought
TheRenegade1098 1 year ago
Haha, it's ok. I thought 5th place was Colby though. Colby's the only hero I kinda like. I don't know why though.
taffygirlz 1 year ago
oh i love colby he was my original favorite and he kept that title for a while until you know who but ya hes the only hero that i give a damn about
TheRenegade1098 1 year ago
Yea. he just isn't the typical idiotic hero. I hate "Honor and integrity" players *cough tom cough*, The dumb muscleheads *cough james cough* and the heros that are so wishy washy and think they're so badass because they do flip alliances. I don't even have to cough to tell you that I mean JT. He's an idiot.
taffygirlz 1 year ago
agreed!!!
NCslice911 1 year ago
I told you there was gonna be shitloads to dissect.
AllRequired 1 year ago
i love how much details nataile went into her diet lol
ulongkoror 2 years ago
Natalove ;)
Gr33nkiwi 2 years ago
Hey Russell, if your gonna shrug at winning 100K - fine, you can send it to me via pay pal, i'll gladly take it lol
tallderektoronto 2 years ago 5