Rabbi Gill Sings a shabad

[whizkidishome]

I agree. Shiv took just the mukhda. quite soulful

[whizkidishome]

I might be wrong here but people mentioned in the comments that this is a shabad.... isnt birha toon sultan written by Shiv kumar batalvi ? so its not something out of the granth rather a poetry by the immortal shiv.

[jattsonline]

@whizkidishome The shabad is from Guru Granth Sahib. Composition of Baba Farid Page 1379 Sri Guru Granth Sahib. You are confusing it with "Birha Da Sultaan" - A composition of poems by Shiv Kumar Batalvi

[whizkidishome]

@jattsonline - yep that makes sense now. looks like batalvi took the mukhda from this . i stand corrected:)

[stupidjassi]

@whizkidishome "birha toon sultan" is a shabad from Guru Granth Sahib . Though Shiv Kumar was referred as "Sultan of Birhah" by Amrita Pritam. That was the name given to Shiv by her, Because "Birha" was the most common topic in Shiv Kumar`s poetry.

[amriteighteen]

Dissapointed at this. It sounds more like a song to me, without the wording. Guru Sahib ji gave us the gift of singing kirtan in raag, and yet we back away from his command and sing shabad in tunes of songs, or other types of music.

The instrument is fine, you need a meend in the instrument, something a harmonium cannot do, but it's recommended again to play instruments given by our gurus. Also the instrument must be playable sitting down, not standing up or sitting on a chair.

[AmritsarAnarchist]

Till they remain there can be no real liberation. You are happy with your chill pill of partial spirituality, your Sikhi -- knock youself out! I gotta march to my own beat. Mannae magu na chalae panth...

[stupidjassi]

ਬਿਰਹਾ ਬਿਰਹਾ ਆਖੀਐ ਬਿਰਹਾ ਤੂ ਸੁਲਤਾਨੁ ॥

बिरहा बिरहा आखीऐ बिरहा तू सुलतानु ॥

Many talk of the pain and suffering of separation; O pain, you are the ruler of all.

[stupidjassi]

ਫਰੀਦਾ ਜਿਤੁ ਤਨਿ ਬਿਰਹੁ ਨ ਊਪਜੈ ਸੋ ਤਨੁ ਜਾਣੁ ਮਸਾਨੁ ॥੩੬॥

फरीदा जितु तनि बिरहु न ऊपजै सो तनु जाणु मसानु ॥३६॥

Fareed, that body, within which love of the Lord does not well up - look upon that body as a cremation ground. ||36||

[knightattitude]

whts wrong with this?its perfect......y some ppl just dont accept new things around?that time nanak was also called a mad fakir,galileo was burnt alive for telling earth not flat but sphere...i lv this guy and his ideas...coz his voice is frm heart and pure ,

[minakaur]

This is Lame!!!

Rabbi does not know how to sing..

Shame on him..he should stop singing this intint.. he is besura...i don't know how he sang "bula ki "...

[citanuzuki16]

@minakaur

meri gal suno

if u know nothing abt music stop giving lame comments

[gurmindersoodan1]

MIna kaur... shut the F..... Up....

stop these lame comments

[fullysikhdesi]

Man, either my speakers just stuffed up or he volume is really low..damn..it looks good...but i dont know if it sounds good...lol...really wanna listen to it

DAMN!!!

[agampreet88]

AlKhalsa is not the only one of his/her type, there are plenty of them. But whatever logical / illogical or theological arguments he might present, they are invalid for this particular shabad. This shabad is by Faridji, try as he might he cannot apply this argument here as faridji wasn't a sikh guru, so his shabads can be sung as qwaali as kaafi as anything by anyone.

[AlKhalsa]

@agampreet88 Brilliant Solution: step 1) EXCLUDE Baba Farid from Gurbani to justify entertainment. step 2) demonstrate enslavement by modernist thinking.

[NanakiDarkangel]

I hope Rabbi comes out with a Gurbani Album; his voice is a gift from god. Like Dya Singh, and personally I dont find anything wrong with the way he is singing who r we to judge only God has that right.

[poitreq]

rabbi gillis a legend. btw, a shabad can be sang in any way.

[amriteighteen]

@poitreq

Please tell me me why is there a raag and mahalla at the start of every shabad or section in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji?

[bhaibaldeep]

@amriteighteen

Simply because the authors of each shabad in Gurbani sang them in the ragas as specified and noted down.

[bhaibaldeep]

I disagree with you totally my dear friend.

Have you studied the gurus medium yourself? The posts by tradition bearers would have some humility and they would not speak like this.

In the whole community, there are not more than a couple of authentic bearers that I I know of - Do we now banish everyone else?

[balpk]

I agree with bhaibaldeep...

Although I prefer going to gurudwaras with classical raagis, a lot of people are using guitars & keyboards nowadays & that's not disrespectful by itself. BUT if you do it for fun even harmonioum and tabla are wrong tools

[poitreq]

haha alkhalsa, its jus show how ignorant u r towards sikhism, a shabad can be sang in anyway, if guru ji was living, they migt be using drum and guitars too..so dont be dump fuck blind cow....

[AlKhalsa]

beghyrat insaan., the Guru's Bani is all we have. and its not up for merchandization and commodification. just b/c u people are living in the wesst now and like to feel white/modern in every aspect of life doesnt give u the right to exploit SIKH SCRIPTURE.

THE MEDIUM OFFERED BY GURU SAHIBAN, IN RAAG, IS WHAT IS BEST. N WHILE WE CAN TOLERATE HARMONIUM, THERE IS NO WAY THIS GARBAGE WILL BE TOLERATED.

GET UR HEAD STRAIGHT. OR SOMEONE WILL DO IT FOR.

[syykoe]

Do you even understand the guru's bani? All you care about is how it should be sung.

[stupidjassi]

All Khalsa ji, Gurbani can be sung on any instruments until its in proper rags.

Just to mention : The VaJa or harmoniam is euorpean instrument and guitar is close to (Tanta wala saaz ) so gurbani suits more to Tanta wala saaz than to harmoniam which were given to us by British.

[AlKhalsa]

Let me clarify this:

Its not the instruements, Im well aware of the german origins of Harmonium.

Its about the methode/language the instrument is used in, Raag is the most suitable one of course.

But others resembling the raag, semi-raag- ones that have a patience and sincerity inherent in the spiritual power of the raag are fine: for example most of the famous raagis before the radical commodification of Gurbani via tapes/cds in 90s.

[bhaibaldeep]

Harmonium was invented in France around 1840 AD I think and not in Germany.

[bhaibaldeep]

A guitar is a tanti saaj indeed, and quite well suited to playing ragas - if one knows how to, i.e.

[AlKhalsa]

first,the emergence of 3 min shabads sung in a hurried fashion n sounding v much like old boollywood songs,n fact i can give examplesof Bhai harjiner singh copying from old movie songs. and now this complete selling out of the tradition, whats next RAPPING kirtan? would that be justified?

Rabbi is identifying Rock n roll style with Gurmat Kirtan, these two musics have origins in COMPLETELY different places in the pysche.ONE is the pinnacle of human prayer, the other a product modern nihilism.

[bsingh01]

Thats your opinion, Bee happy for the guy, Hes clearly found 2 things he loves its not as if hes dancing to the baani,Not everyone understands Gurus-Sangeet and may enjoy kirtan with different music such as Bibi Snatam Kaur's stylel wich is "soothing kirtan" as many would say, im sure if it was that bad they wud have put a stop to it by now alredi, lets concentrate on te important things in the panth, Rabbi singing like this may join many people who have been draw away from The Sikh panth! =)

[AmritsarAnarchist]

"Nihilism" you say? What's wrong with that I ask? Now that it appears clearly that Sikhism (not Sikhi), this formal religiosity has colluded with other components of the control complex -- State, Industry, Patriarchy & Elites to hollow out Punjab -- it's birthplace. The answer can no longer be found in anything past. Formalism had its chance, it failed. And musical classicity is nothing but tyranny of ONE tonality (there are infinite) and forcible regulation of the musical spirit by pedagogy!

[AlKhalsa]

@AmritsarAnarchist, As sympathetic as i am to the critique of modern religion- i.e. the zenith of western ontotheological tradition and its infiltrations into the indic/nonwestern spiritualities via the colonial encounter, i find it jsut as important to recognize and deconstruct the boundaries/limits of post-modernist critical theory's critique themselves. If Sikh-ism,in its colonial incarnation, became an complicit in the modernist control-matrix, how does that effect SIKHI- i.e.pre-colonial,

[AlKhalsa]

[Continued]non-representationa­l,embodied, radically open, modes of spirituality. It is this all out 'religious' critique of tradition by the secular modernism, which includes the post-modernists- that is still entraped in the ONE, still seeks to re-produce the (western) ONE out the (non-western) Many: as is the case with this so called "world Music", and western multiculturalism is general. There no reason to discard Sikhi, and its pre-modernist manifestations (kirtan/gatka/sakhi)as FORMALISM.

[AmritsarAnarchist]

Oh! So now the British did it? Everything was hunky dory before it! What about caste-ism? Forget the lip service in Bani where is the paradigm shifting break from it in TEN generations of Gurus -- is there even ONE instance of inter-caste marriage in the extended guru clan? Nepotism? I've heard the Bibi Bhani story, you got any other? Patriarchy -- self evident; imperialism, yeah the Sikh version -- the routine exhortations to Pahari Raja to convert,

[AmritsarAnarchist]

Maharaja Ranjit Singh's carving out his massive kingdom aided by his blindly fanatic Sikh vanguard? All rated a perfect 10 by Amnesty International, right? And the formal edict in 1699 to dress the same, carry arms, follow the same routine everyday -- not the best means to preserve cultural heterogeneity or individual spirit, now is it? For what? Salvation? Come off it man! We were a pillar of a leviathan, as noble or evil as any other.

[AmritsarAnarchist]

I'm not denying the Gurus had insights about this 'radically open spirituality', but by continuing to situate it in the soul destroying confines of civilisation, their insights just turn to stone, they just had to. There's no overcoming its logic.

[AlKhalsa]

given your psychotic understanding of the Khalsa, this is almost understandable.

[AlKhalsa]

@AmritsarAnarchist- Mate, read your history atleast. Ranjit singh just the ruler of Sikhs, in fact he was afraid of SIkhs, employed more muslims in his military than Sikhs, and hindus in his cabinet-- the later was the main reason behind the downfall of his kingdom. The muslims formed the majority, sikhs were online 8 percent of the population, and yet durign the FIVE jihads faced by Punjab from afghanistan/iran, the punjabi MUslims stood by him each time.

[AlKhalsa]

@AlKhalsa what a cruel reign it was- where death penalty was outlawed and hunting was restricted-only allowing only for knives as hunting weapons. ofcoruse it wasnt ideal, but show me something better in the last thousands years in india?

[AlKhalsa]

lol, thanks for clarifying that ur interets/engagement in Sikhi is nothing higher than that of a punjabi comrade- who has equally poor understanding of marxist critical theory and the traditions he chooses to target. you have already /existentially decided upon worth, place/limits of sikhi/tradition, and practice a dishonest and reductive hermenutics.

[AlKhalsa]

NOT TO MENTION SHEAR DISTORTION OF HISTORY! - NM, that the first and greatest number of Sikhs've always been from Jat backgroud, yet all of Gurus were of Khatri lineage!

NM, that the conflict with mogal and hindu rulers arose out of Sikhi's radical and comprehensive critique of brahmanical/castist and arabic/racial metaphysics- the symbolism of death, (race/caste/class) in 1699 Anandpur Creation of Khalsa has definitely been missed by modernist gaze!

[AmritsarAnarchist]

You send me a response so blown to bits that I have to scoop it off the floor and I AM "psychotic"? And what utter romanticisation of Sikh-Muslim unity! Punjabi Muslims formed a sizeable portion of the ragtag army that annihilated Sikhs in the two Ghallughara, read Tavarikh Guru Khalsa, will gladly cite references. And Punjab's history in the 1700s has been so chaotic that only a Youtube professor will discern lasting affiliations.

[AmritsarAnarchist]

As for your other observations regarding my post, well you are entitled to your opinions (something you cherish dearly it seems). I may clear the air about my beliefs -- organised spirituality (religion) is a necessity of civilisation, it almost ALWAYS degenerates from its lofty premises, leaving nonentities such as us to squabble. Spirituality is an unconscious way of being, it is already DEAD by the time one decides to practice it consciously.

[AmritsarAnarchist]

Sikhi had to become the enemy to survive it. 9 Gurus propose a relaxed life-way and suddenly the 10th Guru decides we all must become commandos. Would the 1699 codification still would've happened if the threat of genocidal Islam vanished? To transcend them we had to out do 'em, and only an ostrich would deny Banda Bahadur's excesses. You lay the blame of Sikhi/Indic corruption on outsiders. Convenient, 'cause the outsiders will ALWAYS be there.

[AmritsarAnarchist]

All-in-all -- a vicious circle! You cite the love affair of the Khatri-Jat, high-ish castes both as some radical social revolution. Even they didn't inter-marry! And what about the Dalits, who even today are baptised separately in all Nihang deras in addition to their eternal marginalisation? So here's what I think -- the controlling institutions -- state, religion, armies, capital have forever remained the same, just they rent themselves out to different sets of people.

[agampreet88]

One cant argue with Ignorance, i think This AlKhasa or whatever is a sikh wahabi or who knows may be a real wahabi. Not even god can help this breed, they are beyond any reasoning, can pervert any argument, Distort whole histories while all while defending some self-deluded notions.

[diabolusX9]

@stupidjassi

HA ha ...tht is a fact

[balpk]

RABBI ROCKS!!!

[bhangrafan]

This Shabad is by Bhagat Sheikh Fareed Ji in Salok Fareed Jee on Pannaa 1379 of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib

birehaa birehaa aakheeai birehaa thoo sulathaan ||

Many talk of the pain and suffering of separation; O pain, you are the ruler of all.

fareedhaa jith than birahu n oopajai so than jaan masaan ||36||

Fareed, that body, within which love of the Lord does not well up - look upon that body as a cremation ground. ||36||

[aparichit07]

RABBI IS MY GOD

[aguamenti20]

RABBI IS MY HERO!!!!